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    Quote Originally Posted by kmj831 View Post
    I've been on the phone with the guys at CB's a few times now, and one of the items discussed was increasing the travel of the fork. What they told me has been covered here across numerous posts, but I'll bullet point the answer that I got from them;

    - Small company, who stands behind their product, so if something happens and it's their bad, a product flaw, or an issue that results from hard riding, but within the range of intended use (i.e. don't throw your bike off the chair lift and then call us) they will always make it right. That said, they aren't big enough to absorb the cost of a bunch of warranty claims that result from guys testing and playing, so if you choose to do it, it's on you. They'd like to keep their doors open, keep building cool bikes and keep food on the table.

    - All that said, off the record, they believe it to be highly unlikely that running a longer fork will ever cause any issues, and they indicated to me that they wouldn't personally be afraid to run a 150 or 160mm fork.

    - They have run both of those, and felt that the geo suffered too much at 160mm to justify and that the extra travel wasn't worth it. They did suggest running it with a zero stack to try and keep geo similar.

    - They designed the bike around 140mm and prefer it, largely due to torsional rigidity of a 140mm on a 29er, and felt that the flex at 160mm was not worth the extra travel.

    - They have raced the Riot in Enduro and ride the Riot regularly and hard, and haven't felt the need for more than 140mm on this type of 29er. Certainly not at the cost of additional fork flex due to increasing travel.

    What I came away with was basically, run a longer fork if you want, it will void the warranty, but honestly we don't think you'll have a problem, we've done with no issues ourselves. It will handle better at 140mm or with a zero stack, but handling is preference to some degree anyways. You will get more fork flex, and we find the 140mm to be the best compromise between travel and rigidity.

    I don't know if that's helpful, but that is what I was told on the phone. Super nice guys down there. Spent a lot of time on phone with me.

    Very helpful indeed!
    Did they mention anything about using an angleset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDiggler View Post
    Very helpful indeed!
    Did they mention anything about using an angleset?
    Nope, I didn't ask and it didn't come up.

    I know they are a small shop, and it took me a couple of tries before someone answered, but once they did, man they were willing to shoot the sh$t. We talked about the Riot and Balance, set up, and a bunch of technical details, then drifted into favorite riding areas, dirt bikes, company ethos, where the industry is going, trail advocacy and so on.

    Chill, knowledgeable dudes for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmj831 View Post
    Nope, I didn't ask and it didn't come up.

    I know they are a small shop, and it took me a couple of tries before someone answered, but once they did, man they were willing to shoot the sh$t. We talked about the Riot and Balance, set up, and a bunch of technical details, then drifted into favorite riding areas, dirt bikes, company ethos, where the industry is going, trail advocacy and so on.

    Chill, knowledgeable dudes for sure.
    That's definitely been my experience with them as well. I'm going to go ahead and run the fork at 160 with a zero stack lower. That puts me at +4mm compared to a stock setup. I'm not too concerned with fork flex since the Fox 36 does not lack in the stiffness department. I'll let you guys know how it pans out if my Chinese wheelset ever gets here.

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    +4mm shouldn't be an issue, but wouldn't anything more than 140 (not including the zero stack) result in a higher bottom bracket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpolism View Post
    +4mm shouldn't be an issue, but wouldn't anything more than 140 (not including the zero stack) result in a higher bottom bracket?
    The idea is that the zero stack offsets the increased axle to crown length of running a longer fork. So my bb will be slightly higher due to the 4mm increase in stack height, but I don't think it will be noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonggi View Post
    Not sure how you guys are doing plus without hitting the chainstays.

    LB 31.8 mm internal Diameter rims

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    I had to redish wheel so it fit perfectly center but still pretty tight.
    I'm running 2.8 Dhf in front and 2.8 Reckon in back on 35id rims no problems with clearance.

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    That is good to know. I am pretty tight on maxxis minions dhf 2.5wt. on spank oozy 345s. I will actually get a little rubbing if I am really pounding on the bike pedaling.


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    Thanks all for sharing your perspectives. Especially, a big shoutout to kmj831 for sharing super useful info!

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    I noticed my raw '16 frame was starting to have weird stains all over it that a simple wash couldn't get out. Almost like dark water stains that felt rough to the touch. Did some research and reached out to Sean and found out that Steel Wool 0000 solves the problem. Weather turned to garbage this week so I figured it would be a perfect opportunity. Toss on some Netflix to bingewatch, and polished her up. Completely turned the bike around. It's insane how different it looks. I'm probably half way between the original raw and chrome.

    If anyone else is experiencing the same thing, I 100% recommend doing this. I'll find out this weekend if it made the bike any faster haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpolism View Post
    I noticed my raw '16 frame was starting to have weird stains all over it that a simple wash couldn't get out. Almost like dark water stains that felt rough to the touch. Did some research and reached out to Sean and found out that Steel Wool 0000 solves the problem. Weather turned to garbage this week so I figured it would be a perfect opportunity. Toss on some Netflix to bingewatch, and polished her up. Completely turned the bike around. It's insane how different it looks. I'm probably half way between the original raw and chrome.

    If anyone else is experiencing the same thing, I 100% recommend doing this. I'll find out this weekend if it made the bike any faster haha.
    let's see it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsalas2 View Post
    I'm running 2.8 Dhf in front and 2.8 Reckon in back on 35id rims no problems with clearance.
    Ok thanks. It works well now. Just slight slight rubbing on high speed turns but won't experience that much on trails. I'll use these plus tires until I wear out the rear then switch to 29.

    Unless someone wants to buy 3c dhf high roller and dhf 2.80 with 14 miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpolism View Post
    I'll find out this weekend if it made the bike any faster haha.
    That answer is guaranteed to be a "yes"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpolism View Post
    I noticed my raw '16 frame was starting to have weird stains all over it that a simple wash couldn't get out. Almost like dark water stains that felt rough to the touch. Did some research and reached out to Sean and found out that Steel Wool 0000 solves the problem. Weather turned to garbage this week so I figured it would be a perfect opportunity. Toss on some Netflix to bingewatch, and polished her up. Completely turned the bike around. It's insane how different it looks. I'm probably half way between the original raw and chrome.

    If anyone else is experiencing the same thing, I 100% recommend doing this. I'll find out this weekend if it made the bike any faster haha.
    If you've already shined it up with steel wool you can now wipe it down with Mothers polish It will turn it to a chrome finish. Did this on an Iron Horse 6 point back in the day. People thought my bike was actually chromed. The cool part is Mothers seals the aluminum pores so it resists oxidizing.

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    Couldn't resist trying my Riot singlespeed. It'll be slow when the trail opens up, but I tried it on my local loop trail that's tight and twisty with constant ups and downs, and it's actually very well suited to it. Love not thinking about gears...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDiggler View Post
    Very helpful indeed!
    Did they mention anything about using an angleset?
    Did you ever get around to trying an angleset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonggi View Post
    Did you ever get around to trying an angleset?

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    I have been running a 1.5 degree angleset on mine. 65hta with a 345mm bb. It is alright. Different, i am going to take it off and go to 150mm to try that out. 65 HTA at speed is awesome and obviously makes it harder to get the front end to lift under steep climbing.

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    Wow! Nice, never even thought about a riot SS. I've seen am epic and tallboy ss but never anything like this!

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    I bet that SS is a rocket!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cSquared View Post
    I bet that SS is a rocket!
    It just needs a bigger motor!
    Workin' on it, but got my "climbing gear" on there. Gotta be able to go up to come back down...

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    I'm thinking about polishing my riot with 0000 steel wool and some mothers aluminum polish. do the Bros sell replacement decals? I really don't want my riot to say tior either but this may not be an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_street View Post
    I'm thinking about polishing my riot with 0000 steel wool and some mothers aluminum polish. do the Bros sell replacement decals? I really don't want my riot to say tior either but this may not be an option.
    Stickrd (if im spelling it right) sells the decal kit. Almost any color you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_street View Post
    I'm thinking about polishing my riot with 0000 steel wool and some mothers aluminum polish. do the Bros sell replacement decals? I really don't want my riot to say tior either but this may not be an option.
    Did anyone find a successful way to polish with a more automated tool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_street View Post
    Did anyone find a successful way to polish with a more automated tool?
    A small buffer or a mothers polishing ball for wheels would probably work pretty good. Iím getting ready to do this on my riot and balance


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    On the fence in ordering a Riot. Anyone had an experience coming from a Process 111 and would care to chime in their thoughts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raleighguy29 View Post
    A small buffer or a mothers polishing ball for wheels would probably work pretty good. Iím getting ready to do this on my riot and balance


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    I used a conical polisher on a battery powered drill and Gord's aluminum polish. It is almost chrome with custom chrome decals from stikrd. I was doing this on lunch breaks so if you took the time to really go at it i'm sure you could have it look like a P-51 or B-17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajak View Post
    I used a conical polisher on a battery powered drill and Gord's aluminum polish. It is almost chrome with custom chrome decals from stikrd. I was doing this on lunch breaks so if you took the time to really go at it i'm sure you could have it look like a P-51 or B-17.

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    I probably will get the conical polisher to use with the polish. The part that is the most labor intensive for me is using the steel wool. I let my top tube get pretty nasty. Also, getting off all of the sticker residue is a pain in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonggi View Post
    Did you ever get around to trying an angleset?

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    Not yet! I have some offset bushings that I will try out first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Gigi View Post
    That's definitely been my experience with them as well. I'm going to go ahead and run the fork at 160 with a zero stack lower. That puts me at +4mm compared to a stock setup. I'm not too concerned with fork flex since the Fox 36 does not lack in the stiffness department. I'll let you guys know how it pans out if my Chinese wheelset ever gets here.
    What headset are you using? I am not aware of a ZS44 headset that will allow for the use of a tappered fork.

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    FSA Orbit E 1.5in Internal Bicycle Headset 141-2038

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017YYSXF8...=3VSSX1FP1CUTA

    This headset is designed to allow a 1.5 straight fork to fit into a 49mm straight head tube.

    Use one of the cups, one of the bearings and the lower race for the lower on your tapered fork. Then use an upper assembly of a standard 44 zs headset for the upper.

    The bearings on this headset are tiny. They are standard old school ball bearings in a thin flimsy cage and they are not sealed. I have one season on mine and they are getting beat. I inspect and re-grease them regularly. Dirt and spirited riding are taking their toll. But you get two sets so there's that.
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    ^^^
    That's the one I got. Someone else mentioned they fashioned a protective sleeve to fit over the race to keep out the dirt and grime..

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpyandhisBike View Post
    FSA Orbit E 1.5in Internal Bicycle Headset 141-2038

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017YYSXF8...=3VSSX1FP1CUTA

    This headset is designed to allow a 1.5 straight fork to fit into a 49mm straight head tube.

    Use one of the cups, one of the bearings and the lower race for the lower on your tapered fork. Then use an upper assembly of a standard 44 zs headset for the upper.

    The bearings on this headset are tiny. They are standard old school ball bearings in a thin flimsy cage and they are not sealed. I have one season on mine and they are getting beat. I inspect and re-grease them regularly. Dirt and spirited riding are taking their toll. But you get two sets so there's that.
    Oh god those bearings must be tiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkosan View Post
    On the fence in ordering a Riot. Anyone had an experience coming from a Process 111 and would care to chime in their thoughts?


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    Do it! I loved my process 111 since it handled so well. I wanted something that would go a bit quicker through rocks and chunk without losing the playful feel. I did not expect to be quicker on my toir on more mellow trails but I was. Still super playful and pedals really well with the seattube angle where it is. I wish the bb was maybe a tad lower but handling is quick with the short cs. I know some people have commented on instabilty at bike park speeds but it's a still a 140mm bike. I never had trouble with it. It's just a super fun bike that likes to pop, pump, and manual

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    Quote Originally Posted by danniel1332 View Post
    Do it! I loved my process 111 since it handled so well. I wanted something that would go a bit quicker through rocks and chunk without losing the playful feel. I did not expect to be quicker on my toir on more mellow trails but I was. Still super playful and pedals really well with the seattube angle where it is. I wish the bb was maybe a tad lower but handling is quick with the short cs. I know some people have commented on instabilty at bike park speeds but it's a still a 140mm bike. I never had trouble with it. It's just a super fun bike that likes to pop, pump, and manual
    I am also coming from a Process that was a frame replacement for a Satori. While I loved how responsive the handling was and amazed that a short travel bike never felt overmatched by anything that I can ride, I missed the extra travel on long rides or smashing through rock gardens. I am still sorting out the setup on my Riot, but I can confirm that the handling is similar to Process and find that it really shines on tight technical climbs. If you are looking for more travel the Riot is a good alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danniel1332 View Post
    Do it! I loved my process 111 since it handled so well. I wanted something that would go a bit quicker through rocks and chunk without losing the playful feel. I did not expect to be quicker on my toir on more mellow trails but I was. Still super playful and pedals really well with the seattube angle where it is. I wish the bb was maybe a tad lower but handling is quick with the short cs. I know some people have commented on instabilty at bike park speeds but it's a still a 140mm bike. I never had trouble with it. It's just a super fun bike that likes to pop, pump, and manual
    Other than the short stays, the higher BB makes changing direction easier.

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    So Iím ordering all my parts for my build and need help on my brake adapters. I will be running Shimano zee front and rear with 180mm rotors. Can anyone give me a link to the adapters I will need for the brakes. Iím running a DVO diamond boost fork. Thanks Iím advance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pajak View Post
    Oh god those bearings must be tiny.
    They sure are.

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    I wont be running them anymore.
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    I have a cool offer on brakes, but the front hose is 76 sm.
    Will it be enough?

    Unfortunately, my frame and fork on the way. I have not opportunely to measure by myself. I am going use 140 mm RS Yari (AtoC 551 mm )
    Thanks

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    I have a yari. My hose is about 89cm. But hoses aren't too much money if it a good deal
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    I've seen a few threads where folks have been successful running boost hubs in non boost frames and wondered if anyone has run a 148mm hub on their riot/toir?

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    Yes. They fit. You will need a wider axle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Yes. They fit. You will need a wider axle.

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    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkosan View Post
    On the fence in ordering a Riot. Anyone had an experience coming from a Process 111 and would care to chime in their thoughts?


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    Itís a great move. I had a Process 111 and moved directly to the Riot. I moved all my parts over with the exception of the Dropper. It was a night and day difference. The Process was very playful but the Riot kicks it up to eleven. The Riot climbs better with a coil with no lockout than the Process did with the lockout. There is so much more chushin for the pushin when the trail gets chunky. Honestly there is no downside. Just pull the trigger.

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    Ok, what's the best bash guard that fits the Riot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Yes. They fit. You will need a wider axle.

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    Any brand work better with the Riot? My bikes have either had RS maxles or whatever the manufactures (Transition and Surly) include with the frame so I'm not to familiar with any of the other 148 x 12mm aftermarket thru axles.

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    1.75 thread pitch and 170-174 length with 2cm of threaded end on the axle is what you are looking for. I posted links to axles off of Universal cycles earlier in this thread if you search for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aenema View Post
    1.75 thread pitch and 170-174 length with 2cm of threaded end on the axle is what you are looking for. I posted links to axles off of Universal cycles earlier in this thread if you search for it.
    Great info - thanks aenema.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Yes. They fit. You will need a wider axle.

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    For it is not clear. Is it enough room for rear boost hub? With out any problems with rear brake and additional stresses on the chainline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by q232 View Post
    For it is not clear. Is it enough room for rear boost hub? YES-

    With out any problems with rear brake and additional stresses on the chainline?
    No problems at all. There is no additional stresses on the frame. Go for it.
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    Any need to run Shimano Boost specific cranks with the boost rear wheel?

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    I changed nothing but the axle on my setup. Brakes didn't even need adjustment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus75 View Post
    Ok, what's the best bash guard that fits the Riot?
    I like the one I bought from 77designz. Cheap and minimalist. The URL is earlier in this thread from when I asked the same question. Don't forget that you need the old iscg03 version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aenema View Post
    1.75 thread pitch and 170-174 length with 2cm of threaded end on the axle is what you are looking for. I posted links to axles off of Universal cycles earlier in this thread if you search for it.
    Getting this technical, anyone have the shock mounting bolt specs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu Pidassle View Post
    I like the one I bought from 77designz. Cheap and minimalist. The URL is earlier in this thread from when I asked the same question. Don't forget that you need the old iscg03 version.

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    Thanks, looks perfect.

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    Wondering if anyone has tried 27.5 wheels with 2.6 tires on the Riot. Thoughts on the pros and cons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus75 View Post
    Thanks, looks perfect.
    Another option that I came across today.

    https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...0&category=361

    Though it weighs twice as much and doesnít look as sleek as the 77. At least you donít have to ship it from Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpyandhisBike View Post
    Another option that I came across today.

    https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...0&category=361

    Though it weighs twice as much and doesnít look as sleek as the 77. At least you donít have to ship it from Germany.
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neck Romancer View Post
    Wondering if anyone has tried 27.5 wheels with 2.6 tires on the Riot. Thoughts on the pros and cons?
    Yes. Did it this fall. Pros lower bottom bracket, cons lower bottom bracket. Was quite the snappy little bike. I liked it quite a bit little trail rocket. Went back to 29er because already have a balance and wanted to put my wheels back on it. If I had a 150mm or 160mm 27.5 fork laying around I would have kept it like that so I don't have to adapt to wheel size change each time I switched bikes.

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    what length cranks are you running? Would pedal strikes be really bad running it all the time? I could bump the Diamond up to 150mm and there would finally be clearance for the tire! Fork offset might be an issue though...

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    I was running 170mm cranks and have a 46mm offset pike

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    I put the wheels that are on my wife's Process 134 2.4, 2.4 tires, on the Riot, I have a Yari with 51 offset. The BB was just under 13". I took it to a flow trail with a few G outs and jumps. It was a lot of fun, not really any more nervous. I definitely would want the BB higher though.

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    Thatís what I was afraid of... Thanks for posting a measurement of the BB! Seems like a 2.6 tire on a wide rim would raise it up but not sure if it would be enough. Thanks!

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    Finally found enough time to build it up! Taking it out for a short test spin this afternoon and hopefully will somehow manage to find time later in the week to give it a real ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotDishman View Post
    Finally found enough time to build it up! Taking it out for a short test spin this afternoon and hopefully will somehow manage to find time later in the week to give it a real ride.

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    Dayummmmmmmmm that thing is awesome. Well done.

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    Nice build!! Cpolism👍

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    Sweet build!

    On a separate note. Is there a difference between the MRP AMG V1 and V2 chain guides? I found a NIB V1 for $50 cad and am thinking I should pick it up. I think the cheapest V2 I've found is at least twice that price. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neck Romancer View Post
    Thatís what I was afraid of... Thanks for posting a measurement of the BB! Seems like a 2.6 tire on a wide rim would raise it up but not sure if it would be enough. Thanks!
    I have 29 x 2.6" Nobby nic tires in the mail and should have them mounted up later this week. Will post up the clearances and bb heights. KOM i29 rims. I'll be curious to see if with the lower pressures you can run, how different the bb height will be once all sagged in. 170mm cranks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neck Romancer View Post
    Thatís what I was afraid of... Thanks for posting a measurement of the BB! Seems like a 2.6 tire on a wide rim would raise it up but not sure if it would be enough. Thanks!

    There are a ton of bikes with 330(13")mm BB heigh. You'll be close to that probably.... too low for my taste. 340 (13.4") is about as low as I'd go and how I ride.

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    I rode a 13" bottom bracket bike for years in colorado and utah and loved it! Best all around trail bike I owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saskskier View Post
    Sweet build!

    On a separate note. Is there a difference between the MRP AMG V1 and V2 chain guides? I found a NIB V1 for $50 cad and am thinking I should pick it up. I think the cheapest V2 I've found is at least twice that price. Thoughts?
    Yeah, the V1 has a much larger guide and it's at a different angle. The V1 didn't fit on my Balance, but I don't know about the Riot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neck Romancer View Post
    Wondering if anyone has tried 27.5 wheels with 2.6 tires on the Riot. Thoughts on the pros and cons?
    I run mine with a 160mm 27.5 fork and 27.5 wheels - 2.5F, 2.4R. Works great in CA. When I rode in Sedona, I liked using the standard 29er setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noosa2 View Post
    At $1k I'm definitely tempted and the only item on your list that really matters to me is "flexible". Have folks been having problems with frame flex on the toir?
    I wasn't quick enough to get a new large frame for $1k before they sold out but I was able to pick a demo frame with a new DVO shock. Cannot wait to get it together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaks View Post
    I run mine with a 160mm 27.5 fork and 27.5 wheels - 2.5F, 2.4R. Works great in CA. When I rode in Sedona, I liked using the standard 29er setup.
    What's the BB height with your set up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus75 View Post
    What's the BB height with your set up?
    It's right at 13", with HA at 66.5deg.

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    Schwalbe 2.6" . 3mm non-drive clearance. 5mm drive. 5+ between front and tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pajak View Post
    Schwalbe 2.6" . 3mm non-drive clearance. 5mm drive. 5+ between front and tire.
    Would you give us a little more info about your setup. What rims are you using? Did you go up to a boost rear axle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankmiester View Post
    Would you give us a little more info about your setup. What rims are you using? Did you go up to a boost rear axle?
    This info is also something I would be very interested in. NN 29x2.6 may be my preferred weapon back and front, so any ride impression would also be much appreciated.

    Do you ride with the same front tyre? If so, what fork and clearance?

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    Here is my lady medium frame in 15.2kg
    donator my previous yelliscreamy!
    I hope to get dvo diamond soon
    and change my brakes to zee or saint maybe I will go with 50mm stem and 760mm handlebar now I have 60mm stem and 750 handlebar!
    Dvo topaz makes me happy in every ride...
    Im waiting rear tyre with lower weight and I will go under 15 kilos...
    Im using michelin rockr2 2.35 1.200gr each tyre...

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    I did mine with 2.6 on a KOM i29 rim. It fits, but flexs under moderate cornering. That being said. it measures 2.55" . Maxxis SHorty 2.5 WT measured a true 2.5 and it was fine. same rim.

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    before you say it, the wheel might be a mm bias to the non-drive, but i am getting rub on both sides under cornering.

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    KOM i29 to P321 hubs. 142x12 stock setup. no axle changes.

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    Fork clearance is fine on the new pike. I have daylight all around. 2.6 on front, find a 2.5 for the back even 2.4. not enough clearance for mud too.

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    is there something like a manual with torque specifications for the links I cant find anything!

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    I think there were no specific numbers, however somebody said (down this thread) that due to bearings construction you should not be able to over-tight them. Just go reasonably tight.

    Some riders also reported - and I have experienced that on mine either - that the bolts got loose on the rides. Therefore it's good to make sure they are tighten up before hitting the dirt

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    when I took it in my local bike shop said to mechanic to check it and its ok
    but if I want to regrease them I should tighen the link with torque I domt know how much!
    I will send message to Sean...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksoul View Post
    when I took it in my local bike shop said to mechanic to check it and its ok
    but if I want to regrease them I should tighen the link with torque I domt know how much!
    I will send message to Sean...
    I too am building a Riot, and according to Canfield, there are no torque specs for any bolts on that frame. "Just hand tighten". Seems like a recipe for disaster. Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Gigi View Post
    I too am building a Riot, and according to Canfield, there are no torque specs for any bolts on that frame. "Just hand tighten". Seems like a recipe for disaster. Weird.
    If you clean and grease the threads, everything fits very tightly without worry.

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    The reason you can torque them down is that there are aluminum sleeves between the bearings that the inner race will press together on. Have any of you ever had a moto? Replaced the front bearings on the wheel? There is a sleeve that the axle goes through and that sleeve essentially connects the two bearings together. It is the same with the Riot.
    You simply cannot really over tighten as you will not load the bearings inappropriately (technically you could but not by hand with our normal allen wrenches).

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    Just reiterating the advice to make sure they are tight before and after your first few rides. Also, make sure the axle and is fully inserted and pinch bolt is tight.

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    2015 Canfield Brothers Riot 29er FS

    So close to pulling the trigger on a closeout Riot frame but I canít shake the feeling Iíd be better off with an EPO. Just moved to the Denver area and havenít had a chance to ride yet so not sure what to expect trail wise. Owned an EPO before and loved it. Will do a few lift assist days over the summer which the Riot would be better for but other than that an EPO would fit my riding style better (I think) Iím more into the fast and flowy stuff than I am the chunky gnar type stuff. But it seems like most people out here are on 130-160 travel full suspension bikes. And to throw a total wrench into things Iíve also got my eye on a Guerilla Gravity trail pistol. Hmmmm


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    I love down in Colorado Springs and have done the hard tail thing for a bit (nimble 9) and have been on a riot for the last 2 years. The riot is worth it. The all of a sudden square edge hits that come at high speed out here get very tiresome and wheel killing as time goes on. Well worth the small price you pay in efficiencie to have some travel in the back. If I was having a hard time deciding between the two I would get a riot and put a shorter stroke shock on it and have a mix of both with around a 125mm poppy rear end riot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    I love down in Colorado Springs and have done the hard tail thing for a bit (nimble 9) and have been on a riot for the last 2 years. The riot is worth it. The all of a sudden square edge hits that come at high speed out here get very tiresome and wheel killing as time goes on. Well worth the small price you pay in efficiencie to have some travel in the back. If I was having a hard time deciding between the two I would get a riot and put a shorter stroke shock on it and have a mix of both with around a 125mm poppy rear end riot.

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    Where do you like to ride down there? From what Iíve read it sounds like places like Centennial Cone, North table mountain, buffalo creek, etc are more my type of rides. Falcon at the academy sounds cool too. I should also mention I was a bit worried about size. Iím just over 5í10Ē with a 31Ē inch inseam. A medium Riot ďshouldĒ be ok but Iím a bit worried as I typically ride a large


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    I tried mounting Travail Cumberland 29x2.6 but touched driveside chainstay. itís No go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tsurun View Post
    I tried mounting Travail Cumberland 29x2.6 but touched driveside chainstay. itís No go.


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    How wide are your rims?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
    How wide are your rims?


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    Itís i45mm, Iím going to try narrower rim another day.


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    2015 Canfield Brothers Riot 29er FS

    Ok. I just mounted up the Cumberland but had put it on the bike. I'm on a 29mm rim. I believe the Canfield guys recommend a 30-35mm external width rim for plus tires.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
    Ok. I just mounted up the Cumberland but had put it on the bike. I'm on a 29mm rim. I believe the Canfield guys recommend a 30-35mm external width rim for plus tires.


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    Good information, thanks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeter97 View Post
    Where do you like to ride down there? From what Iíve read it sounds like places like Centennial Cone, North table mountain, buffalo creek, etc are more my type of rides. Falcon at the academy sounds cool too. I should also mention I was a bit worried about size. Iím just over 5í10Ē with a 31Ē inch inseam. A medium Riot ďshouldĒ be ok but Iím a bit worried as I typically ride a large


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    I ride all over, one of the best kept "secret" of the springs is I have hundreds of miles of trails I ca ride from my door step. From the riding you say you like to do the falcon trail on the academy is a fun one. Also look into cheyenne mountain state park it is pretty XC fast flowy. Red rocks open space as well captain jacks and 666 trail are good ones. For you I would avoid palmer park, ute valley and any trail in monument area. They are all either slow tech stuff or just flat out chunky beat you up trails. I ride them all so the 140mm travel riot works perfect for a daily driver. If you are not going to ride anything but the more XC stuff then a EPO is fine but if you venture away from those the riot will be the best choice. Mine is a large so I cant really help you on test fitting a medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    I ride all over, one of the best kept "secret" of the springs is I have hundreds of miles of trails I ca ride from my door step. From the riding you say you like to do the falcon trail on the academy is a fun one. Also look into cheyenne mountain state park it is pretty XC fast flowy. Red rocks open space as well captain jacks and 666 trail are good ones. For you I would avoid palmer park, ute valley and any trail in monument area. They are all either slow tech stuff or just flat out chunky beat you up trails. I ride them all so the 140mm travel riot works perfect for a daily driver. If you are not going to ride anything but the more XC stuff then a EPO is fine but if you venture away from those the riot will be the best choice. Mine is a large so I cant really help you on test fitting a medium.
    Right on thanks for the info. The more I read the more Iím starting to think a medium is just gonna be too small for me. At this point I may just give it a little time to see if they release a carbon Riot or just pull the trigger on a Trail Pistol


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    Maxxis High Roller 2 2.5" WT x 29 on a WTB KOM i29 rim are a no go.

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