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    Quote Originally Posted by A_street View Post
    have you gotten any ride time since the upgrade? What are you running out back; a woodie?

    Im really on the fence with both of these upgrades.... I know that I wouldnt regret it. Ive been poking around the suspension forums to see what people are saying about the vorsprung and the mrp ramp control. No one has reported back on if it feels balanced to a coil shock in the rear though.
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    So today I finally got a chance to ride on some trails and the first feeling I got was "wow" how soft the small bumps felt (small bump sensitivity was off the charts). Now I know my Pike was dialed pretty good but I guess you don't know how good it can be until you compare. On the decent when I picked up some good speed (32mph) with some chattery rutted sections, I felt very balanced between the fork & shock. Once again I thought I was dialed pretty good but I felt faster because I felt smoother all around. I'm 215lb geared up and I have my fork set at 90psi for 22% sag+- with only one token. So first initial ride was a success and maybe I'll try a little setting changes for comparison on upcoming rides. Hindsight is 20/20 but for those that are on the fence, I would recommend a Yari with an AVA Cartridge over a Pike RCT3 (roughly the same price)

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    Good feedback. I pulled the trigger on the cartridge and a woodie last week. I'm excited to see how it turns out. Probably a few weeks out until Craig starts to even build my stuff.

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    Made the move to another bike for this year. I have a large riot that was ridden since last summer.

    I am thinking about selling the :

    Frame and cane creek db-il coil w/ 450 il spring $2000.

    Send me a pm.

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    Im yelli owner in last 2 years and Im looking for used frame RIot in medium any colour,good condition if you have something send me pm thanks in advice Phill!

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    So today I finally got a chance to ride on some trails and the first feeling I got was "wow" how soft the small bumps felt (small bump sensitivity was off the charts). Now I know my Pike was dialed pretty good but I guess you don't know how good it can be until you compare. On the decent when I picked up some good speed (32mph) with some chattery rutted sections, I felt very balanced between the fork & shock. Once again I thought I was dialed pretty good but I felt faster because I felt smoother all around. I'm 215lb geared up and I have my fork set at 90psi for 22% sag+- with only one token. So first initial ride was a success and maybe I'll try a little setting changes for comparison on upcoming rides. Hindsight is 20/20 but for those that are on the fence, I would recommend a Yari with an AVA Cartridge over a Pike RCT3 (roughly the same price)

    What tune did you select on the cartridge?

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    Nearly 18 months on this beast, has been a blast so far. So Canfield, when are we going to see a lighter carbon weapon? My body and wallet are ready!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TX_CLG View Post
    What tune did you select on the cartridge?
    Spoke with Craig and told him I'm an all around type of rider and he recommended a AM/Trail tune especially for this frame.

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    Anyone looking for a Riot : Complete 3k obo or frame only option lmk.

    16' riot large frame
    w/ cane creek dbinline coil w/ valt spring
    cane creek remote shock opt lockout on handle bar mount
    fox transfer 150mm dropper post
    box carbon bars (780 width w/ 25mm rise and 35mm diameter)
    raceface atlas stem (35mm 35 clamp)
    shimano xt brakes with ice tech rotors (203 front and 180 rear)
    maxxis ardent rear and minion front
    x1 crankset with 32t chain ring raceface narrow wide
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    chromag lynx dt saddle
    sram threaded bb
    cane creek headset

    Pike RCT3 fork : fork was rebuilt by suspension experts 6 months ago with complete overhaul. They reported that everything was fine but that the dampener lockout (lockout knob for climbing) on the top had bad detents. The dampener functions as designed and was tested on their dyno but does not lock out the suspension. can call them and get a copy of repair if needed.

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    Custom built wheelset including industry nine 100x15 front and 142mm rear hubs in teal laced to easton arc 30 hoops w/ dt swiss spokes and nipples.
    *rear rim does have two small dings to the lip but are purely cosmetic as inspected by local wheel builder.

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    Before I order, anyone looking to sell a size small riot frame? No shock needed. Here is your chance if you you think you should of gotten a medium.

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    large frame option 2016' blk/blk with headset , cane creek coil il , valt spring, opt lever. $1500 bucks plus shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksoul View Post
    Im yelli owner in last 2 years and Im looking for used frame RIot in medium any colour,good condition if you have something send me pm thanks in advice Phill!
    We have a few of our 2016 demos available. PM me for details.

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    I like the geometry and suspension design of the Riot. And now I am looking for used frame in Large good condition. If you have something contact to me please.

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    I have a 2016 update canfield riot frame size large black with ano green links with cane creek db air cs including headset I will be listing for sale soon. $1750 Australian dollars. I am in Perth, Australia but are happy to post internationally at buyers cost. The frame will be posted in the original canfield bros box.

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    Tire Question: I mostly use my Riot in Plus mode. I have been using Maxxis 2.8 Rekons front and back and they are great. Want to try the 2.8 DHF and DHRII for the new season coming as I am planning on riding a lot of rocky rougher terrain. I know the front will fit on the Mrp Stage in front, but not sure on the DHRII on the rear. Is anyone using this on the rear. Also this will be adding an extra pound of weight and not sure if it will be worth it for the extra traction and durability. Thanks, Jesse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsalas2 View Post
    Tire Question: I mostly use my Riot in Plus mode. I have been using Maxxis 2.8 Rekons front and back and they are great. Want to try the 2.8 DHF and DHRII for the new season coming as I am planning on riding a lot of rocky rougher terrain. I know the front will fit on the Mrp Stage in front, but not sure on the DHRII on the rear. Is anyone using this on the rear. Also this will be adding an extra pound of weight and not sure if it will be worth it for the extra traction and durability. Thanks, Jesse.
    I believe dustyduke had that combo mounted on his riot. He posted the photos in the plus size riot thread. Clearance was ok from what I remember but if you hit any mud at all you may run into issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsalas2 View Post
    Tire Question: I mostly use my Riot in Plus mode. I have been using Maxxis 2.8 Rekons front and back and they are great. Want to try the 2.8 DHF and DHRII for the new season coming as I am planning on riding a lot of rocky rougher terrain. I know the front will fit on the Mrp Stage in front, but not sure on the DHRII on the rear. Is anyone using this on the rear. Also this will be adding an extra pound of weight and not sure if it will be worth it for the extra traction and durability. Thanks, Jesse.
    I ran the DHR II on the front, but specifically used the Rekon + in the back because clearance was tight. Rekon's definitely have better clearance. I had a rim that was measured at 35mm internally. Per Dusty's advise, i went with the Rekon+ and didn't regret it one bit. It all depends on your rim measurement. If you're around a i30, my guess is that it'll fit. i35 will be tight.

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    Thanks, your right, the Rekon is right at the limit of the rear.

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    How did you like the DHRII as a front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsalas2 View Post
    How did you like the DHRII as a front?
    Loved it. Awesome tire, but man there is some serious rolling resistance haha. I felt it on the climbs no doubt. Maybe higher PSI would have helped, but I much preferred the plus ride. I was 12 front and 14 rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsalas2 View Post
    Tire Question: I mostly use my Riot in Plus mode. I have been using Maxxis 2.8 Rekons front and back and they are great. Want to try the 2.8 DHF and DHRII for the new season coming as I am planning on riding a lot of rocky rougher terrain. I know the front will fit on the Mrp Stage in front, but not sure on the DHRII on the rear. Is anyone using this on the rear. Also this will be adding an extra pound of weight and not sure if it will be worth it for the extra traction and durability. Thanks, Jesse.
    I am currently running 2.8 DHF on i30 front and back. No problems. This weekend was the first time that the rear rubbed, but I had aired down by feel in the middle of my ride because I was having a hard time in the depth snow I was riding in. Honestly it was really rubbing on a build up of icy mud and when I got home I checked and I was at 10.5 psi which was lower than I had the front at. Still felt good on a small drop. These minions are very supportive.

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    One thing I didn't address was if the DHF was worth it or not on the rear. It's winter here with ice, snow and mud so it's hard for me to say. The Rekon is a really great tire, especially on the rear. I spent the second half of the year on it last year. Once spring is over I will most likely leave the DHF on front and throw the Rekon back onto the rear. For most of my trails here in western New York the Rekon is plenty for the rear. I will probably rock the Minion again for the bike parks though. If it gets really dry around here again this summer I have a WTB Ranger I might even mount on the rear for even less weight and better rolling resistance. DHF 3C up front is amazing and will remain.

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    Thanks, just ordered one dhf 3c for the front and will use my rekon for the rear.

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    Raleighguy2, you posted on the suspension forum that you were going to compare the Topaz and Jade on your Riot. Did you ever get a chance to do that? Anyone else ride the Riot with both. I really like the Jade on my Balance. Only coil I've had. Going to get a
    Riot soon. Probably get the Jade. What's another pound? Maybe when they make a carbon Riot I will start thinking about the weight of my bike. But maybe not. It's the ride that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rone Turner View Post
    Raleighguy2, you posted on the suspension forum that you were going to compare the Topaz and Jade on your Riot. Did you ever get a chance to do that? Anyone else ride the Riot with both. I really like the Jade on my Balance. Only coil I've had. Going to get a
    Riot soon. Probably get the Jade. What's another pound? Maybe when they make a carbon Riot I will start thinking about the weight of my bike. But maybe not. It's the ride that matters.
    I have not yet had the chance to do that yet. It's been winter here and I'm just now getting my riot back out. I've been between the riot and epo depending on conditions. I'm just glad I can put the fat bike up for now. I kind of spaced it since winter hit. And I started a spring remodel on my nimble. But I hope here soon to find out


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    So many canfields so little time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    So many canfields so little time.

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    Carbon Riot

    Thanks for everyone's interest in the possibility of a carbon Riot. It's pretty awesome to see everyone as excited about new products as we are!

    We feel we need to address a few things, especially regarding the timeline. The cat was let out of the bag on this one a bit early, and while it is certainly in the works, it's not something you can expect to see in the near future — at this point we are hoping for spring 2018.

    While we initially anticipated getting this to market sooner, we are not willing to rush anything or sacrifice quality on our first carbon full-suspension bike. If you know our brand, if you know our bikes, then you understand that even with carbon, weight savings will come second for us to strength and durability. Given our strict standards, we’re a bit behind our initial time frame projections with development.

    That being said, we are not in a rush as we believe the performance, value and durability of our current well-engineered aluminum frame is going to be tough to beat. The Riot Alu is an exceptionally performing bike (as many of you know), and we're pretty damn proud of it! The current Riot is the most fun, capable and efficient full-suspension 29er on the market.

    We will keep you in the loop as we have more information, but won't bring ANY bike to market until it deserves a skull on the headtube. For now, we hope you'll be as confident as we are that the current Riot kicks ass.

    Now go ride!

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    Being that I dropped a few grand on a Riot & Balance in 2016, I'm in no hurry for lusting after a new carbon bike. So for a selfish perspective, please take your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acfsportsfan View Post
    Being that I dropped a few grand on a Riot & Balance in 2016, I'm in no hurry for lusting after a new carbon bike. So for a selfish perspective, please take your time.
    Im with you, I did the exact same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    ...at this point we are hoping for spring 2018.
    Wait... so I have to ride my Riot for at least another year?! F*ck yeah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    Thanks for everyone's interest in the possibility of a carbon Riot. It's pretty awesome to see everyone as excited about new products as we are!

    We feel we need to address a few things, especially regarding the timeline. The cat was let out of the bag on this one a bit early, and while it is certainly in the works, it's not something you can expect to see in the near future — at this point we are hoping for spring 2018.

    While we initially anticipated getting this to market sooner, we are not willing to rush anything or sacrifice quality on our first carbon full-suspension bike. If you know our brand, if you know our bikes, then you understand that even with carbon, weight savings will come second for us to strength and durability. Given our strict standards, we’re a bit behind our initial time frame projections with development.

    That being said, we are not in a rush as we believe the performance, value and durability of our current well-engineered aluminum frame is going to be tough to beat. The Riot Alu is an exceptionally performing bike (as many of you know), and we're pretty damn proud of it! The current Riot is the most fun, capable and efficient full-suspension 29er on the market.

    We will keep you in the loop as we have more information, but won't bring ANY bike to market until it deserves a skull on the headtube. For now, we hope you'll be as confident as we are that the current Riot kicks ass.

    Now go ride!

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    The current riot is bad ass I love mine!! Just took it to wind rock bike park and did the down hill runs with it with ryan sullivan and I have to say this bike is ****ing bad ass!!! Performed flawlessly. Only thing that held it back was my lack of skill in some places so rock on keep doing what you guys do!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    it's not something you can expect to see in the near future — at this point we are hoping for spring 2018.

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    Man, that's like 3 hub standards away!!! Definitely post-Boost and Turbo Boost

    I don't envy you guys. It's gotta be tough tooling up for carbon. I'm too cheap for carbon anyway, so keep up the good aluminum work. My only Riot request would be if you guys could offer it in some of the amazing colors that the Yelli/Nimble offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by car_nut View Post
    Man, that's like 3 hub standards away!!! Definitely post-Boost and Turbo Boost

    I don't envy you guys. It's gotta be tough tooling up for carbon. I'm too cheap for carbon anyway, so keep up the good aluminum work. My only Riot request would be if you guys could offer it in some of the amazing colors that the Yelli/Nimble offered.
    Yes and a big fork so it is on par with the 5.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    at this point we are hoping for spring 2018.

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    At the same time, retrofit boost rear-triangle please.
    now is considering go or wait, though I'm sure I could be happy with even Alu.

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    Took my riot to windrock for its first park day. She did good


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    I have one request of the carbon Riot - can you put a flip chip on the rear axle to switch between fun/rowdy mode and serious/stable mode? I'm thinking 414mm and 434mm chain stay options

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    Hmm, have been thinking of upgrading recently (have been on a gen 1 since release). But maybe I should hold off another year and see what the brothers come up with in a carbon version. There's not much out there I'm all the excited for over the Riot at the moment, I just come down with a case of upgraditis every now and again.

    Keep us in the loop Vin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaks View Post
    I have one request of the carbon Riot - can you put a flip chip on the rear axle to switch between fun/rowdy mode and serious/stable mode? I'm thinking 414mm and 434mm chain stay options

    Replaceable dropout system like Intense does/did would probably work. Maybe offer three different lengths 414, 424 and 434.

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    I had replaceable drop outs on a bike. It was a constant battle to keep them from creaking. I am not a fan. I think that would be a deal breaker for me. Hell even my derailleur drop out on my riot was creaking so drop outs too would make your bike creak like we'll like a intense.....

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    I think replaceable drop outs would be a bad idea. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the formula suspension that gives the riot such efficient pedaling no matter the travel point would not work as well if you had the ability to keep changing the pivot point that the suspension is moving around. The stock configuration would work, but the pedaling characteristics could not be kept the same in all drop out locations. So you would be compromising just to be able to change geometry a little bit.

    i was going to suggest that maybe an update to the current riot with a little more travel would be pretty cool. After all, most bike companies do an update to their name offerings every 3-5 years. 2018 would be the 3 year mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    While we initially anticipated getting this to market sooner, we are not willing to rush anything or sacrifice quality on our first carbon full-suspension bike. If you know our brand, if you know our bikes, then you understand that even with carbon, weight savings will come second for us to strength and durability. Given our strict standards, we’re a bit behind our initial time frame projections with development.
    On the weight issue your carbon Riot doesn't have to be the lightest option in its class, but should be similar to the other comparable bikes. Let's not confuse heavy with equating to strong or light equating to weak. As engineers you know that's not true.

    If a competitor can make a carbon frame that's 1lb lighter and does not break any more often that a carbon Riot than the Riot is not a stronger more durable bike it's just heavier.
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