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    2012 One!!!

    "The 2012 "The ONE" will have a couple of changes from the 2011 model. Overall, Canfield Bros. are very happy with this bike. I think everyone would agree the suspension design is top notch excels at not only ups but downs.

    This technology will not change as its damn near perfect. What will change is the following:

    -New head tube gussets. ( for strength and added stiffness)

    -New rear triangle. (with out adding much weight, a stiffer on all axis' rear triangle, it will help with the big guys and the DH guys)

    -BB will slightly raise ( to aid pedal clearance of course, more FR friendly with out giving up DH performance)

    -Headtube will steepen slighty ( still 100% customizable with an angleset. 1.5'' continued)

    - Rear wheel spacing will now be 142mm or 135mm with dropout spacer

    Geo charts will be up for viewing soon !"

    And so it starts...





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    I was wondering when this thread was going to start! But man you gotta throw in more pics!

    I really like the numbers of the new The One. I reckon this would be a killer hard hitting enduro frame built with a 170mm fork ,zero stack and the shorter shock option.

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    2012 One!!!

    Used to be a member here and came back on.

    Been poking around at the Canfield threads for a while.
    Just ordered a 2012 One!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Build to come when I have it in hand!

    Super stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fauxfreeride View Post
    Used to be a member here and came back on.

    Been poking around at the Canfield threads for a while.
    Just ordered a 2012 One!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Build to come when I have it in hand!

    Super stoked!
    I'm stoked for ya

    What do you think your final build might look like?

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    Any complete bike pics??

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    I'm still sorting my build out but will post some shots when I get the frame and figure parts.

    Can't wait for this pup. Trying to ride more this season!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fauxfreeride View Post
    Used to be a member here and came back on.

    Been poking around at the Canfield threads for a while.
    Just ordered a 2012 One!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Build to come when I have it in hand!

    Super stoked!
    So awesome man I can not wait to see it, 2012 is going to be a sweet season.

    I pre-ordered mine as well a few weeks ago when I noticed the purple links

    I hope to have 4 Canfields by the end of the season...

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    I took those shots on sunday at the factory. They will be arriving in the US in about a month. No full builds yet, just finished assembling them and putting them through a final inspection. We have a couple that are air shipping so you'll see a few pics in the coming weeks. Colors turned out great! So stoked to build one up with a AM build and one with a DH build.
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    Is there a reason why the welds extend beyond the gusset? I am not trolling. I have just not seen that before.
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    The welds extend to push the stresses out beyond the end of the gussets. Most cracks will start to form right at the end of the gusset because it's so stiff there. By welding past a little, it tapers the stiffness out into the tubing and removes the abrupt transision.

    Most motorcycle company's do this in high stress areas.
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    I need a beer mug for myself with these strong welds.

    Jokes aside... Sean helped me sort out a shock for my frame and blessed my part spec today. Great service and can't wait for my first Canfield.
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    What's the frame weight without a shock?

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    We just received our first couple of air shipped One frames and we'll be releasing the official pics shorty, but we wanted to post up this teaser...

    For 2012, we stiffened the frame, tweaked the geo and dropped .25 lbs compared to the 2011's. Sean's medium frame came in at 8lbs flat.

    Here's the weights with a few different shock options:
    X Fusion Air - just a hair over 9 lbs
    Vivid Air - 9.1lbs
    Elka with a ti spring - 9.72 lbs
    Fox RC4 - 9.95 lbs

    Enjoy!!!
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    Rad teaser, V.
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    more pics...



    Sean Gollub and Kyle Warner's new race steeds !!!


    Hope you all enjoy

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    SO EXCITED about this bike for so many people ! Less weight, more stiff , classy LASERED logo's ! Lot's of colors to keep you and your friends bike different !!

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    Psyched!!!
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    Nice pic's gentlemen, keep them rolling in. Whats the final build spec?

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    looking real good. LOVE the laser etched logos and minimalist (IE: low key) cosmetics for 2012. timeless beauties!

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    All in...

    I just couldn't take it anymore.... I ordered up a 2012 last week. So stoked!
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    Awesome bike...test ride a bike that was used in a Kiara Race in M'sia hehehehe size M.....neway me at 6' and will large be ok or is tooo big?

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    im more interested in an AM\XC setup on the one, rear air shock and 6.5" travel,

    how good does it pedal uphill compared to 6" bikes?
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    Sizing on this frame is a bit of personal preference. The TT is 1/2'' longer than the JEDI. It seems most folks 5'8'' - 6' prefer a medium. Over 6', a large seems perfect !

    Vin is going to have his setup with a 170mm fork and it should be sub 30lbs. when he's done.

    The travel question gets asked a lot, basically this frame in 8'' mode pedals better than a lot of frames with 1/2 the travel. This is a NO BS statement ! This bike is magic !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
    im more interested in an AM\XC setup on the one, rear air shock and 6.5" travel,

    how good does it pedal uphill compared to 6" bikes?
    If it's anything like the 2011 and in my experience, it's the best peddling 7"/8" bike on the market. I run mine with a Elka and can peddle it anywhere, the only thing holding it back is me.

    I can't attest to the shorter shock setup but if is going to be an air shock it'll only peddle better. If you happen to live in Vancouver BC and ride a large, let me know and you can give my One a bash.

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    Canfield Brothers The One Images

    Hey guys, I just posted up a image gallery on our blog of Sean's One, featuring a few different shock options we will be offering this year. We didn't have any Cane Creeks in stock when we shot these, (can't wait to see the black frame with all the CC gold goodness.) I am super sorry for the delay, I'll be MUCH more on top of things when my move to Bellingham is all dialed in.

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    side view with Elka


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    The extra headtube gusset is awesome...a little Jedi-ish. Also digging the rear triangle with stylish brace. Man, too bad I already have a '11 and love it too much. Whoever gets the '12 is super lucky!

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    Hey bigcrs, thanks for the offer:-) wish i lived somewhere near that area, im from Israel, so im going on blind with the One as a second pair.

    I currently have a 12' Jedi after owning a 08 jedi:-)

    Im looking for a second pair to serve me as an all around not dh bike, meaning, sometimes i would have to xc pedal for 40km but sometimes ill hit local am and fr stuff.

    As you can see in my sig i have a 08 sx trail for this now, but its not cutting it in the pedalling area, so im thinking of a 5" bike.

    But if the One with air shock could pedal like a 6" bike, i would go for it and not with enduro/stumpjumper stuff.

    The only problem is getting the One on "blind" (in hebrew it sounds better heh)

    I know that nothing bad can come from canfield bros, already on my buying list are the crampon ultimates!
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    Sweet! Just sourcing parts for my build.
    Marzochi 66
    Or
    Fox float 36
    Or
    Fox Van 36?
    Decisions, decisions!
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    After putting a Totem on my Diggle, those Fox's look so small....The Zoke was on my short list but too much coin for me. Go with the Zoke!

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    fauxfreeride, I have an '11 66 RC3 Evo Ti on my One and once I figured the right air preload assist for me...it is awesome. Would image the '12 version is at least as good if not better. I'm biased when i say you can't go wrong with the 66 unless you are really trying to shave weight. Still, it's not that bad in that dept.

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    Running the marz 66 on mine paired with the rockskox vivid air. Running about 5 psi air assist in the fork. The bike feels very balanced and smooth when going thru its travel. Was going to put a talas on it but asked myself why??? Stayed with the 66 and am very happy

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    Check out Ben's new One!

    Oh my!


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    that thing looks so quick!

    is that a large?
    whats the weight on this? looks light!

    also, what height is the guy riding it?

    i am 6'0 and cant decide between the M or L
    im riding a large 2012 Jedi
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    Man that bike looks sick.

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    thats a nice setup man : )

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    I have my 2011 One frame for sale if anyone is looking to get on the fastest bike on earth!

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    How it pedals with those fox 40?

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    The ONE pedals INSANELY well for a 8'' bike. Actually, its the best of any 8'' bike I've ever tried. That alone is a big reason why its becoming a "racers" DH bike. The only bob from the bike happens in the fork, yet when you hit a bump, root or tiny impact......BAM your shock if FULL open!!!

    With the different shock options and travel settings, its a very versatile machine thats at home just about anywhere!

    The ONE also jumps really well and is a very balanced when cornering. The TT length is about 1/2'' longer then the JEDI for those folks who have ridden both. I ride a medium JEDI, but I really enjoy the slightly longer TT on the med "The ONE".

    Ben's bike is around 36 lbs...It pedals even LIGHTHER ! He also has the super trick 9t hub laced to those ENVE hoops!

    The changes in the rear triangle to stiffen up the back of the bike was VERY successful ! Stiffer and lighter! This bike arcs corners like carving skis !!

    I just got a bunch of ONE frames in stock. They look great, I have been very busy getting all the patient pre-orders out ! If your on my list, your frame is a coming !!!

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    +1 what Sean said. At one point I had a fox 40 on my One and decided to give it a go. After the fun DH bits, was climbing out of the forest and got a lot of "holy Sh!t" looks as I was able to easily climb it like a normal AM bike. Suffice to say, the One kicks freak'n a$$ for just about everything if you could only have "one" bike!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicohigh5 View Post
    I have my 2011 One frame for sale if anyone is looking to get on the fastest bike on earth!

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    Did you end up selling that thing? I never heard back from you?

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    I've climbed some unbelievable steep technical stuff with the one in 8 in. mode. I'm going to get some guys with XC and All-mountain bikes to see if they can climb the same stuff. I'll be surprised if they can match it. I'll post some videos one of these days to prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boone View Post
    Did you end up selling that thing? I never heard back from you?
    Yup, I bought it. Thanks, Kyle!
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    OK... so I'll start.

    Knock Knock.
    Who's there?
    Canfield.
    Canfield who?
    Canfield The One!

    UPS guy dropped my One off last night.
    Bad ass... just need the last few parts and some time to build and lace.

    Thanks to the Canfield Crew for getting me my first glass of Canfield Koolaid.
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    Got mine Tuesday, built it up, rode it around the block, now it's in a box going on vacation.
    those links are purple as... something. Old school; party like it's 1991!


    crash replacement for my '09, parts that look out of place, like the fork and the lack of dropper post, that's why. Anyone want to trade a 31.6 reverb for a 30.9?
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    Love the reinforcements, they look sex!

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    How heavy are these frames?

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    post 13

    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    How heavy are these frames?
    See post 13...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joules View Post
    Got mine Tuesday, built it up, rode it around the block, now it's in a box going on vacation.
    those links are purple as... something. Old school; party like it's 1991!


    crash replacement for my '09, parts that look out of place, like the fork and the lack of dropper post, that's why. Anyone want to trade a 31.6 reverb for a 30.9?
    Nice looking bike and yes, I have a 30.9 Reverb that I am shimming to use on my new bike. Send me a message and lets get something worked out!
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    My Bellingham, The One

    Just finished up my build, used a few parts from last year trail bike, but she should sit very close to 31 lbs!!!

    Frame - Small The One
    Shock - Cane Creek DB Air
    Headset - King Inset
    Fork - Marz 55 Evo Ti
    Bars - Cromag OSX
    Stem - Thomson
    Grips - Ruffian Lock Ons
    Brakes - Avid Elixir CR
    Cranks - Race Face Carbon
    Chainring - E13
    Guide - E13
    Pedals - Time Atac Carbon/Ti, (not pictured)
    Rear D - Sram X0
    Shifter - Sram X0
    Chain - XTR
    Cassette - XTR
    Wheels - Mavic Crossmax SX
    Tires - Maxxis Minion DFH EXO, tubeless
    Seat post - Thomson
    Seat - Specialized Henge
    Cables - Jagwire Ripcord
    Brake Housing - Jagwire Hydroflow
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    Such a perfect build. Man I am getting phsyched.
    Joules - do have any better pics of the silver finish and purple links? I am undecided on silver/black frame and purple links. I will either go silver/purple, black/purple or black/black.
    Killington - have you been on Crossmax before? Been thinking about them but I wouldn't pick up a set unless I could get some spare spokes at the same time, I know how hard they are to come by where I work/live. I know how you ride so it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on durability. I am looking to go for a very similar light weight hard hitting build and wheels are the 1 undecided item. I am also assuming you are on a 170mm 55 and the travel is in 6.5" mode. What is the HA and BB height? This is setup I will be in 80-90% of the time.
    I just want to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juan pablo View Post
    Such a perfect build. Man I am getting phsyched.
    Joules - do have any better pics of the silver finish and purple links? I am undecided on silver/black frame and purple links. I will either go silver/purple, black/purple or black/black.
    Killington - have you been on Crossmax before? Been thinking about them but I wouldn't pick up a set unless I could get some spare spokes at the same time, I know how hard they are to come by where I work/live. I know how you ride so it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on durability. I am looking to go for a very similar light weight hard hitting build and wheels are the 1 undecided item. I am also assuming you are on a 170mm 55 and the travel is in 6.5" mode. What is the HA and BB height? This is setup I will be in 80-90% of the time.
    The Crossmax's were off of a previous build that I whooped on pretty good. 1750grams, yet still stout! While I certainly don't throw these off of the stuff I'll hit with my Jedi, they certainly see abuse.
    We are currently testing new rims to be able to offer a very light and stout wheelset for next season... I'll keep you posted on the progress there...

    As far as geo, in an AM build you'll want an external headset, (unlike my inset). My BB is sitting under 13.5 with a 64.82 HA.
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    KillingtonVT, THAT is PIMP!! Love your build!

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    i dont think you can get 6.5" travel with the DB air, do they have it in 8.5x2.5?

    if not he is on the 7" mode, which raises the BB by little compared to the shorter travel.

    when im gettin the ONE i want it for alot of pedalling, so maybe ill go with the shorter shock option on it.

    what are the 8.5x2.5 shock options the ONE has?
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    With the CCDB, it seems you can get both the 8.75x2.50 (6.5"- 7.5" travel) and 8.75x2.75 (7"- 8" travel) shocks.
    Giving you all the offered travel options without having to sacrifice bb height with a 8.5" eye-eye.

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    if theres this option with the CCDB i think its a no brainer going for the 8.75X2.5 with 6.5" travel!

    anyone can say about its pedalling efficiency with the ONE?

    maybe other air shock are a better choice for this?
    or the ccdb is the way to go
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
    if theres this option with the CCDB i think its a no brainer going for the 8.75X2.5 with 6.5" travel!

    anyone can say about its pedalling efficiency with the ONE?

    maybe other air shock are a better choice for this?
    or the ccdb is the way to go
    I only have 1 pedal on mine so far... I was planning on slapping a 8.75x2.5 on it, but Lance recommended the 2.75 to REALLY push the pedaling ability in 8" mode. PRETTY AMAZING... (I'm coming off of a 2012 S-Works Enduro for a pedal bike by the way...) I am getting just about full travel with pretty middle of the road adjustments.

    I have Matt Lareau, one of our East Coast rippers, and Henry Miles from Skyline Media working hard to drop a few sick Jedi edits for us, after they leave next week, I'll be sure to put my the One to the test!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    I only have 1 pedal on mine so far... I was planning on slapping a 8.75x2.5 on it, but Lance recommended the 2.75 to REALLY push the pedaling ability in 8" mode. PRETTY AMAZING... (I'm coming off of a 2012 S-Works Enduro for a pedal bike by the way...) I am getting just about full travel with pretty middle of the road adjustments.

    I have Matt Lareau, one of our East Coast rippers, and Henry Miles from Skyline Media working hard to drop a few sick Jedi edits for us, after they leave next week, I'll be sure to put my the One to the test!!!

    I agree with the way The One pedals in 8" mode. I just had my One set up in full-on DH mode with Dorado's and all. It pedaled like no other DH bike on this planet. But those like me that want a true AM the One needs/should be setup in 6.5". The ability to REALLY have two bikes in One is what attracted me to the One in the first place.

    I have gone from a 66rc3 to a 55 Micro Ti, and not regretted the change at all! Can I say that setup with zero stack & 160mm the One ABSOLUTELY SLAYS the North Shore.

    I have a Avy SSD modified DHX on its way, it's a 8.75x2.5. I focused the tuning based exclusively around the 6.5" setting and all the AM exploits I plan to do with the One.

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    So basically One with ccdb-a 8.75x2.5 on 6.5" setup is the way to go for an am bike? I mean, you can always take the shock from the jedi to hit the 8" mode:-)

    Hey Vin, sorry for the obviouse question, but how is it pedalwise compared to the s-works? Assuming you are on 7" mode on the One?

    As i said, i plan on going ccdb-a in 6.5" mode on the one for AM and tons of pedalling
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    Just received this today, cannot wait to build it up!!

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    Built up and first ride!!!

    Got the last of my parts and put it together.

    BUILD:
    First off, let me say how impressive the frame is. I am just an amateur builder but the machine work and prep is amazing. The bike went together with the parts I had planned like pizza and beer... just meant to be. Not one issue on the build.

    MY PART SPEC:
    Frame - Large The One
    Shock - Cane Creek DB Coil (MuthaF--ka)
    Headset - King Devolution
    Fork - 2013 Fox Float 180 RC2 (Yes! It is FINALLY more linear!)
    Bars - RF Atlas FR Stealth 750
    Stem - Easton Havoc 35mm
    Grips - Rogue Lock On
    Brakes - Avid Code
    Cranks - Saint M810 170mm
    Chainring - RF Single 32t (My first single)
    Guide - MRP Mini
    Pedals - Time Z Strong
    Rear D - Sram X9 (Short cage... WORKS!)
    Shifter - Sram X9
    Chain - SRAM 1071
    Cassette - SRAM (11...errr... now 9/36!)
    Hub Rear - Canfield 9t (MuthaF--ka)
    Hub Front - King 20mm
    Rims - DT Swiss FR600
    Tires - Maxxis Minion DFH 2.5
    Seat post - Spec Blacklite
    Seat - WTB Pure V
    Cables - Jagwire Ripcord
    Brake Housing - Avid (Soon to be Jag)

    Initial Ride:
    The cockpit to me is different than other bikes (IMO). I feel like I sit "in" the bike, not on it. This was more obvious on downhills when the suspension came alive. I ride mostly aggressive trail and some LIGHT DH/FR. This is a step up rig for me.

    All the talk about the pedaling is true. Mind you my build is a bit heavy and slack on the HA (64.5) but the rear tire GLUES itself to the ground in the 8" mode?!?!?!?!? (Thanks Sean). If there is any bob I couldn't notice it.

    Only did one big ride so I won't say much more than I am impressed past what I was expecting. All around super fun in rocky/rooty/up-down east coast terrain.

    One note... The 9t seems to be the shiz! FLAWLESS lace up to the rims for me and shifts perfect. I really hope this is a trend in gearing all around.

    Thanks Canfield!

    ps: Yes my steerer is too long. Wanted room for adjustment.
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    Since it sounds like you've ridden the bike at 8", perhaps you can tell me why people are reducing travel and using less suspension. I'm seriously asking because I came off a Specy Pitch(with nothing but top shelf parts) and I consider my 8" Boxxer/Stage5 ONE setup to be a far superior AM rig to the Pitch. To me it seems to do everything better AND I've got a full DH rig instantly ready by merely pushing the KS dropseat button
    To me, at 8" the bike is several rolled into one...since a lot of good riders are doing up ONEs like you, I figure I'm not getting something, help.

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    I agree with the way The One pedals in 8" mode. I just had my One set up in full-on DH mode with Dorado's and all. It pedaled like no other DH bike on this planet. But those like me that want a true AM the One needs/should be setup in 6.5". The ability to REALLY have two bikes in One is what attracted me to the One in the first place.

    I have gone from a 66rc3 to a 55 Micro Ti, and not regretted the change at all! Can I say that setup with zero stack & 160mm the One ABSOLUTELY SLAYS the North Shore.

    I have a Avy SSD modified DHX on its way, it's a 8.75x2.5. I focused the tuning based exclusively around the 6.5" setting and all the AM exploits I plan to do with the One.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossup View Post
    Since it sounds like you've ridden the bike at 8", perhaps you can tell me why people are reducing travel and using less suspension. I'm seriously asking because I came off a Specy Pitch(with nothing but top shelf parts) and I consider my 8" Boxxer/Stage5 ONE setup to be a far superior AM rig to the Pitch. To me it seems to do everything better AND I've got a full DH rig instantly ready by merely pushing the KS dropseat button
    To me, at 8" the bike is several rolled into one...since a lot of good riders are doing up ONEs like you, I figure I'm not getting something, help.
    Someone help me and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong... I have been riding my '11 The One for 3 weeks now and here is what I have observed;

    The shock options don't change the Geo of the frame because the i2i on the shocks is the same, just the stroke length is different. Only thing that changes the Geo is the setting on the frame. The only reason you would get shorter travel is because the shorter stroke shock prevents the frame from reaching the full potential. Using the low hole (8"/7.5") sets the frame in its higher stance, more spread out if you will, with a highest possible BB height. Using the upper hole (7"/6.5") will put the bike into its lower stance, bringing the front and rear triangles closer together thus lowering the bottom bracket. Also, since the frame measurements were given with the effective length of a boxxxer or 40, using any of the shorter forks will further drop your BB.

    Given this, using the 6.5" setting with a fork shorter than an 8" would set your bottom bracket even lower than the listed geo sheet.

    As I am seeing it, to effectively have the highest possible BB you would want the longest fork possible and in the 8"/7.5" setting. I was even toying with the possibility of using and angleset to steepen the HA and try to bring the BB up even more.

    Any into or other opinions I would love to hear.

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    Most modern forks have similar A2C lengths once you get above 150mm travel, so unless you use a odd ball fork, your front end will stay around the same.
    If you check the math, I think you'll find pulling it the HA will only raise the BB, microscopic amounts..3 degs was less than 1/8" IRC. I'm running 66 deg with the CC Angleset and my forks pulled up 2 inches above the top clamp. That obviously lowers my BB by about an inch, yet I seem to have no issue with pedal clearance
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    any more ride reviews?
    mostly on the AM pedalling side?

    thank you!
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    Also interested in ride reviews. Currently just sold off two of my 29ers and a little worried about going back to 26", not to much though. Mainly wondering if this is truly the "One" bike. Can I use it for a 50 mile XC ride and not be dead! Can I turn around and freeride Az's super chunk trails? The new 650b thing looks interesting, if only the bike worked in that setup. Bigger wheels climb and XC a lot better in my opinion but 26" is much funner coming down, ahhhh what to do???

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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
    any more ride reviews?
    mostly on the AM pedalling side?

    thank you!
    Katsooba,

    I have been spending a bunch of time on my the One midweek at our local pedal up and rip down spot. The climb is about 45 minutes up and is a really good test for this bike! Pedaling efficiency is just insane!! I have been loaning out my bike a bunch of people and have had people freaking out over it. It's fun to give them a 30.5 lb bike and then telling them how much travel it has!!!

    I opened up the HSC on my CCDB Air to only 2 clicks and have my LSC set at about 8. The bike is definitely smoother through chop now and didn't seem to loose anything on the ups!

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    Would love to hear how your bike pedals compared to your S-Works Enduro. I have a 2010 Enduro Pro and have to earn my DH on most rides, but like to go up to the Shore, Stevens, Whistler, etc. I would be very interested in this bike if it climbs better than my Enduro. It looks like it definitely goes down better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillingtonVT View Post
    Katsooba,

    I have been spending a bunch of time on my the One midweek at our local pedal up and rip down spot. The climb is about 45 minutes up and is a really good test for this bike! Pedaling efficiency is just insane!! I have been loaning out my bike a bunch of people and have had people freaking out over it. It's fun to give them a 30.5 lb bike and then telling them how much travel it has!!!

    I opened up the HSC on my CCDB Air to only 2 clicks and have my LSC set at about 8. The bike is definitely smoother through chop now and didn't seem to loose anything on the ups!
    I was wondering who much that rig weighed, but I didn't expect 30.5lbs!! My '11 One has been on a diet, as it is now it's sitting at 33.65lbs, down from 37.87lbs.

    Killington, whats the weights of all the available One sizes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    I was wondering who much that rig weighed, but I didn't expect 30.5lbs!! My '11 One has been on a diet, as it is now it's sitting at 33.65lbs, down from 37.87lbs.

    Killington, whats the weights of all the available One sizes.

    We haven't weighed all the sizes, but if I remember correctly, a medium with a Vivid Air weighed 9.1 lbs.

    As far as my build, I swapped the parts over from my 27.01 lb S Works Enduro. Yeah, my the One is pretty freaking light, but she feels SO GOOD! The confidence difference when things get rowdy is unreal... pedaling??? Lets just say that I DON'T miss my old bike!!!

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    So I assume I could transfer most of my parts from my Enduro Pro over to this bike? Would the E160 fork work ok on this bike? Tell me about your single ring - how much difference is there in the lowest gear compared to my double ring set up?

    For taking up on the lifts, would it be wise to have a set of heavy duty DH type wheels, and can you get by with an air shock when doing shuttles and lift riding?

    Next time I am up in Bellingham, I would love to check out your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgman25 View Post
    So I assume I could transfer most of my parts from my Enduro Pro over to this bike? Would the E160 fork work ok on this bike? Tell me about your single ring - how much difference is there in the lowest gear compared to my double ring set up?

    For taking up on the lifts, would it be wise to have a set of heavy duty DH type wheels, and can you get by with an air shock when doing shuttles and lift riding?

    Next time I am up in Bellingham, I would love to check out your bike.
    Most of your parts will swap over with the exception of the rear hub. You will need a 135 or 142x12. As far as the fork, the key to an AM build with the One is keeping the BB as high as possible. An external headset will certainly help this! I made the mistake of ordering an internal and my BB is at 13.25 with my 55. The A to C on the E160 is pretty short, I would opt to sell it with your frame and slap on something longer.

    I run a single ring as I despise front derailleurs!!! My next build will certainly be our 9t Microdrive setup with a 28 front mated to a 9-36 rear. This would allow for a HUGE range of gearing without that clunky thing that attaches to the frame above the chainrings.

    Lastly wheels, it depends on how smooth you are and what kind of terrain you ride. While I can get away with Crossmax SX's on my the One, there's NO WAY I could run those, or something similar on my Jedi.

    Hope that helps bro!!!

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    This helps, thanks. Would love to go to a single ring if I can get close to the lowest gears on my current set up. Sounds like I can with this set up. Do you ever have any demos up in Bellingham to check out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgman25 View Post
    This helps, thanks. Would love to go to a single ring if I can get close to the lowest gears on my current set up. Sounds like I can with this set up. Do you ever have any demos up in Bellingham to check out?
    Right now we just have my the One.. if you can ride a small, you are more welcome to it! Sean should be moved up here by next weekend, not sure if he still has his the One or not... I know he has been spending a bunch of time on his Jedi lately...

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    Gearing: I am running the 9t (9:36) with a 32t Saint 170 up front. The 9t is crazy good for range. Using my One more for freeride and little all mountain. With MY gear ratio HEAVY "technical" climbs can be wearing, this is were I would say the 28 or 30t spiderless would be SPOT on for climbs. I am most likely doing this soon.

    Speaking of climbing: I have a CCDB coil and left it in 8". Bike is glued to the ground for rocky uphills and has zero bob. The climbing on the One is not a fable. I am sold 100%. Downhill the rear comes alive and blows over the rough stuff. The geo has changed how I ride for sure.

    Fork: I have a 180 fox float 2013 (rad linear). CK external headset. This has definitely minimized pedal strikes on climbs. Killington is spot on if you want an AM bike. Keep the BB up with an external headset.

    ps: Keep them handlebars wide so you can handle this speed inspiring beast.

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    I had a little downtime between projects yesterday, so I DH'd out my the One and took her for a spin... it's funny HOW much harder I ride with a dual crown!!! I has Stan's pissing out of my beads from rolling the tires so hard. (I had this wheel/tire set up for almost a year and a half without a single burp). It was super rad riding a DH bike that pedaled this well. It was the MOST fun I have had at Galby since I've been here in Bellingham. I wouldn't trade my Jedi for when it gets rough or the jumps are LARGE, but man was it fun.

    The ride yesterday really helped brake in my DB Air as well... I need to do another round of tuning as it's super smooth now.

    The changes raised the BB from 13.25 to 13.65 and slackened my HA by a degree and a half to 63.27.
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    Yes, the ONE is not a Jedi BUT would you spend the day trail riding and climbing a Jedi??
    You obviously are far more in the know than me since I've never hucked at your scale nor ridden a Jedi but would it be safe to say a ONE can do anything a Jedi can do just not as well, while the Jedi can not do everything the ONE does(or just barely)?
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    So I just pulled the trigger on a 2012 The One frame. Now to figure out all the rest. I am going to be asking a lot of questions in this forum.

    My main rig is a 140mm travel AM bike, which suffices for most of the stuff around here in Toronto. However, I am starting to get into lift access riding and plan to make some trips out west. I grew up near Seattle and my family still lives out there.

    So my plan is to make this a FR/Light DH/park bike. At 37 years of age and having only gotten back into biking 3 years ago, I didn't see myself racing, so a full on DH rig didn't appeal as much. With the One, if I decided lift access riding wasn't reallly my thing (not likely) then I could build it up more AM, so it was a great middle ground for me.

    I am having a buddy build up the 9T hub on some DH rims for me. I am leaning towards a Fox 40 and an Elka stage 5 shock. I am pretty clueless on what crank/chainring/chain guide I need. I don't even know what a spider is (i'll go look it up).

    Anyway, that was a bit of a ramble, but I am super stoked.

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    The thing to remember about the ONE is that it will pedal as well or better than your AM rig. So keeping it light will help with that, while its not a deal breaker, its obviously easier to get 35 pounds up hill than 40 pounds.
    I mention this because I really think unless you are seriously in love with your AM ride(and your trails have nothing it can't eat up), the ONE will make you park it.
    The beauty of riding a DH capable trail/AM bike is you can hit anything that strikes your fancy. As opposed to riding AM and saying, gee, I have to come back and really hit that on my FR/DH rig.
    So my point in saying that is unless you're a BIG boy, you may want to consider using the MUCH lighter Boxxer WC, which is a super match for the Elka Stage 5. I'm 5'8.5" and 150 and would not want a Fox 40 on my bike, however you may, again, if you're large. Don't listen to the RS haters, the Boxxer WC is a great fork and works really well on the ONE.

    Another recommendation would be to build it with the VP Varial headset which will allow you to change HA on the trail. That means your trips to lift served stuff can be with a DH setup and when doing AM/FR work, you can pull the HA back to the 66 deg area where the ONE will turn nicely for use on tight trails and general riding. One could also use a CC Angleset but changing the cones is a PITA.

    Your mileage may vary but depending on your trails, you may want to run a double chain ring, I'm not running a chain guide but havent had a chain drop yet with mine. My ONE came with a nice taco guard that keeps the chain from coming off to the inside and I run a Gamut bash guard despite the taco cause it keeps the chain from going off to the outside and is very friendly to your ankles and shins should you errr.. dismount unintentionally
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    Thanks for the tip. Didn't realize that the FOX 40 was so heavy. This is why I post.

    I do really love my AM rig (IBIS SL-R) which is pretty damn light for the amount of travel.

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    6.93 lbs vs 5.97 lbs, that and lightweight wheels/tires are the biggest single component savings one can do. There are some pretty lightweight wheelsets out there that can take pretty big hits and if you're feeling old(but you really are quite young for FR/DH) you can probably get away with quality AM rims. I AM old so I ride on Crossmax SX's and doubt I'll ever hurt them even at the bike parks. I rode Whistler for a week on a Specialized Pitch with Crossmax ST's and musta bottomed a hundred times and did drops much bigger than the bike was intended for(you know you've over done it when the bike bounces back into the air big time from give and flex in stuff) yet I've never even had to tighten a spoke to this day, and now the wife is rolling on those rims. All depends on your weight and how aggressive you ride.
    Same thing with cranks, bars etc. I run carbon everthing and know they are stronger than I am...not all riders can say that, again, your mileage may vary.
    But my real bottomline point here is build it to suit YOU and don't pay too much mind to old school FR/DH wisdom, the ONE for example makes all that stuff obsolete. Go back 5-7 years and no one in their right mind would pedal a DH bike up serious hills, but now there are several 200mm travel bikes that go uphill as good as anything. I hear even the SC V10's pedal very well and are of course hardcore DH race bikes, so listen to those who ride such bikes, not the old school DH crowd that spout absolutes without ever trying state of the art or thinking outside the box. Oh and Chris Canfield will always tell it like it is and is always up for helping/discussing nearly anything about bikes.
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    Thanks again for the advice. I think I've figure out some of the stuff, but not yet all. I went with SRAM X9 crankset + Homebrew chainring 29t, Microguide + 9T package for a big part of the drivetrain. Have to figure out brakes and rear derailleur. The later I think depends a bit on which cassette I choose. I assume I want a short cage.

    Two looming questions I have are:
    1) Coil versus air fork? The boxxer also comes in a coil version vs the soloair, with the weight penalty of course. Is the penalty worth it. I had always been led to believe that you want coil on a DH rig.
    2) Are the saint brakes really that good? They are pricey. I also don't get the whole mounting scheme of the shimano brakes. Not sure if there are better values out there for performance.

    Anyway...those are the questions I am still pondering.

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    Used to be you just couldn't get the compliance a coil produces with air, those days are gone although you have to be careful what you buy as only a few air products rival coils.
    But at least they exist now, The Boxxer WC being one, and I'll be the first to admit its harder to tune air to equal coil and easier to setup coils but you do have the option now, I think its largely up to how big of a weight weenie you are or want to be. The bigger you are, the less it matters too. My bike weights nearly 25% as much as me, some folks ride with the bike being nearly 10%...so in my mind I HAVE to be more aware of adding weight.
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    2012 the One Colors

    I had a little time this week to shoot all twelve color options of the One... I also posted colors for ALL our bikes over on our FB page.

    Here are the Silver frames...

    Enjoy!!!
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    And the Black frames:
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    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/49059495" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/49059495">Canfield Brothers "The One"</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/dualcrownfilms">Dual Crown Films</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    Was hoping to see more real trail riding. Ben is freakin fast and would like to see him on a trail that does justice to his speed. Canyons looks fun, don't get me wrong, I have just seen him on the DH at Bootleg and would like more video of that type of riding.

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    let me tell you

    i just swapped my 2008 SX trail with the 2012 ONE.

    SXT was with rear Elka stage 5 and 2011 160 fox van rc2 upfront, weighted at 15.8 kilo.
    just did a part swap with the ONE, same parts except for the rear CCDB-AIR. bike weights less. thats for one.

    as for pedaling, this bike is a hell of a suprise on the uphills in 8" mode!
    with 30% sag, i could pedal stuff that i just could get passed with the SX Trail, steep uphills that go for hundreds of meters would just be impossible with the sx trail! with the ONE in said setup i just laughed as i pedalled uphill! it was like i was on a moto.

    and the thing is, on the SX i was pedaling with 34 ring front and 34 [biggest] ring back
    with the ONE i tested it with 34 ring front the 32 [biggest] ring back, and it still was MUCH MUCH happier to climb!

    cant wait to get my 32 front the 9-36 back

    that thing would be unstoppable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by katsooba View Post
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    let me tell you

    i just swapped my 2008 SX trail with the 2012 ONE.

    SXT was with rear Elka stage 5 and 2011 160 fox van rc2 upfront, weighted at 15.8 kilo.
    just did a part swap with the ONE, same parts except for the rear CCDB-AIR. bike weights less. thats for one.

    as for pedaling, this bike is a hell of a suprise on the uphills in 8" mode!
    with 30% sag, i could pedal stuff that i just could get passed with the SX Trail, steep uphills that go for hundreds of meters would just be impossible with the sx trail! with the ONE in said setup i just laughed as i pedalled uphill! it was like i was on a moto.

    and the thing is, on the SX i was pedaling with 34 ring front and 34 [biggest] ring back
    with the ONE i tested it with 34 ring front the 32 [biggest] ring back, and it still was MUCH MUCH happier to climb!

    cant wait to get my 32 front the 9-36 back

    that thing would be unstoppable!

    Hey Katsooba,

    I am running the 9:36 with a 32t Saint up front. The 9:36 is killer, big range and flawless for me so far. JMO... the 32t up front for me is great for flowy AM/DH/FR but steep tech climbs are a bit of a hump for me. I am a pretty strong climber, my build is on the heavy side and I have a 180 Fox Float up front (that all contributes).

    That being said, for single ring "I think" most riders would like a 28t-32t up front FOR TRAIL/AM. Might spin out on fast DH... maybe? I'm sure there are much stronger riders than me on here so its just a thought.

    All aside from that this bike's rear GLUES to the ground on ANY climb and flows like water on descent.

    Pretty sure I am going to try a 28t up front for a bit on trail riding, and over the winter swap out to a Zoke 888 evo ti so I can be spring ready. BOING!

    Hope this helps.
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    [QUOTE=unbalanced;9674994 I went with SRAM X9 crankset + Homebrew chainring 29t, Microguide + 9T package for a big part of the drivetrain.[/QUOTE]

    So you don't plan on having this ready to ride for 8 months or so? I couldn't wait that long!

    BTW, my vote for brakes are Codes, they work awesome on my Diggle.

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    A pic of my One on top of Razor's Edge near Canmore, Alberta.

    I've had it out to Revelstoke, Fernie and lots of Moose Mtn trails the past month. It really does pedal as well as people say, honestly as good as my 5" carbon XC race bike up rocky technical terrain. Certainly not as fast though, it's pretty light at 32lbs but compared to 23.5 it's quite a difference. You do have to watch the pedal strikes when climbing, even with 170mm cranks. Rips the downs as expected!

    Have a 2x10 setup with 22/38 cranks and 11-36 cassette as we have lots of long climbs. Gearing is perfect, just keeps cruising up. New Blackspire Twinty chain guide works awesome too.

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    Sweet bike!

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    A few questions - sizing, gearing

    Sorry for not making a new thread, but this is my first post and I can't start one.
    I may be getting a 2012 Canfield One frame soon, and I would love some info and opinions.

    First, I can't decide between getting a medium and a large. I am 6'1'', 180ish, and 32.5 inseam. I would build the bike up as a do it all / pedal-able freeride bike with probably a lyrik 170 in front. Aiming for 34 ish pounds.
    I am leaning towards the medium because I currently ride a voltage fr which is around the same 23'' top tube length. I have ridden a 24'' top tube uzzi and it felt massive. I like smaller-ish, more nimble frames in general, but I don't want more than a 50mm stem. The 17'' seat tube is really appealing because I don't like the seat anywhere near me when riding aggresively.
    Is there enough seat tube to still pedal well?
    Do the frames ride large or small?
    Anyone around my size riding a medium have any thoughts?

    Next thing I can't decide is whether to do 1x or 2x front chainring(s).
    How would a front derailleur with a mrp xcg or blackspire stinger do through laps at the canyons, and more downhill style stuff?
    Would I still be able to climb Utah trails with a single 33t front and 11-34 or 11-36 in back? I realize a lot of that is my own fitness but if I would have to be in pro xc shape to do it, it's just not going to happen.

    Thanks a lot, I look forward to possibly being a Canfielder. (new word?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fstfrd15 View Post


    A pic of my One on top of Razor's Edge near Canmore, Alberta.

    I've had it out to Revelstoke, Fernie and lots of Moose Mtn trails the past month. It really does pedal as well as people say, honestly as good as my 5" carbon XC race bike up rocky technical terrain. Certainly not as fast though, it's pretty light at 32lbs but compared to 23.5 it's quite a difference. You do have to watch the pedal strikes when climbing, even with 170mm cranks. Rips the downs as expected!

    Have a 2x10 setup with 22/38 cranks and 11-36 cassette as we have lots of long climbs. Gearing is perfect, just keeps cruising up. New Blackspire Twinty chain guide works awesome too.

    Yes very sweet ride, great to see more Canfields in BC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rossimcfly View Post

    Next thing I can't decide is whether to do 1x or 2x front chainring(s).
    How would a front derailleur with a mrp xcg or blackspire stinger do through laps at the canyons, and more downhill style stuff?
    Would I still be able to climb Utah trails with a single 33t front and 11-34 or 11-36 in back? I realize a lot of that is my own fitness but if I would have to be in pro xc shape to do it, it's just not going to happen.

    Thanks a lot, I look forward to possibly being a Canfielder. (new word?)
    I can't offer any suggestions yet on frame size, but i can on the drivetrain. In my opinion, you ought to look into one of the sram/truvativ or middleburn crank sets that has a spiderless spline drive. I live in utah too, and some of the longer climbs would suck with a 34 tooth ring. The nice thing about the spline drive is that you can get chainrings in sizes like 28. Match that with canfield's 9 tooth micro drive hub and you will have a 1x10 that will do everything you want, less weight, full gear range, quieter ride, and less things that can go wrong. Oh and you will need some sort of guide so that it doesn't get caught under the linkage. Yet another reason for a 1x setup. Many 2x chain guides seem to be a bit of a pain
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    well, im 6'0 with 50 mm stem and 760mm deity bar on a 160mm fork

    riding a Large.

    couldnt be happier
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    Quote Originally Posted by fstfrd15 View Post
    You do have to watch the pedal strikes when climbing, even with 170mm cranks. Rips the downs as expected!
    What fork is that Fox? 160 or 180MM?

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    Thought I would finally put mine up after having it most of the summer. Sitting at 34lbs 12 oz as shown. tubed rear and tubeless front setup. I am running 9sp with that crazy heavy but wide range 12-36 rear cassette and a 34 tooth front. Done some pretty big trail rides (3+ hours) on this and though there are times I wish I had lower gearing, I was still always able to grind through. I also have a trail bike so it will likely stay as it is but amazingly versitile.
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    so the only change you wish for is moving to a 32T ring upfront?
    heh
    looks awesome!
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    sometimes on the grinds. But I like the taller gearing for pointing down the hill. Plus you need it to be big enough to not deal with pedal feedback. I tried a hammerschmidt on it originally and too much caterpillar movement from suspension with the 24 tooth that has. I ran a 32 for a bit and that felt great till I broke that ring and had the 34 spare to mount up. 32 was a great gearing for climbing but a little lacking where the bike shines most. Now I am committed to just grunting along or getting stronger, but amazing really what I am climbing as is. 2k plus ascents are drama free unless it gets steep enough it would be painful on any bike.

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