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    lucky i got mine with the 9T cassette
    but i know what you're saying, that bike just doesnt wanna make you stop pedaling uphill, even though you need to grind sometimes, it just keeps moving.
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    I really want to try one of these sometime. The One is at the top of my list for next bike, although I can't see that happening for a few more years, sadly. Wish Canfield was going to Outerbike.

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    I am 6'0" 33" inseam and riding a large One with a 50mm stem and 800mm bars. I use mine for southern Utah all mountain riding, a little freeride, a little dh, whatever the trail brings. This size is perfect for me for all around. However, I do wish the seat tube was shorter for freeride. The medium one only has a 1" shorter top tube and the seat tube would be much more friendly on steep jumps. I would recommend that if you are mostly riding freeride and parks. You will still be able to raise the post high enough and the short top tube shouldn't be too bad for pedaling, especially with wide bars. It will pedal very well either way. And the medium will be much closer to your voltage fr.

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    medium it is

    Thanks guys.
    I ended up going with a medium. It may be a little bit short for climbing, but hopefully tolerable, and much more fun for the downhill.
    Also, I think I'll go 33t front / 11-36 rear. Gearing may be a little tall for some Utah trails, but I don't mind hiking the steep parts. If that doesn't work, front derailleur or 9-36 hub and cassette when $$ permits.

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    Love my ONE!

    I figured now that I have about 10 rides on her I can share my ONE with you all! still have a couple things I want to do, but she's pretty much how I imagined she'd be.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55082469@N06/8067766546/" title="MyONE by SocalFyre, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/8067766546_fa1a0dd875_c.jpg" width="800" height="597" alt="MyONE"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalfyre View Post
    I figured now that I have about 10 rides on her I can share my ONE with you all! still have a couple things I want to do, but she's pretty much how I imagined she'd be.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55082469@N06/8067766546/" title="MyONE by SocalFyre, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/8067766546_fa1a0dd875_c.jpg" width="800" height="597" alt="MyONE"></a>
    Pretty. Damn. SICK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalfyre View Post
    I figured now that I have about 10 rides on her I can share my ONE with you all! still have a couple things I want to do, but she's pretty much how I imagined she'd be.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55082469@N06/8067766546/" title="MyONE by SocalFyre, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/8067766546_fa1a0dd875_c.jpg" width="800" height="597" alt="MyONE"></a>
    Hey, I gotta know.. how much does your rig weigh?

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    Thanks bigcrs! It's my first "real" bike or at least one that's completely new to me. Rage43 I haven't weighed it since putting on he Outlaws but I'm guessing around 35/36 lbs. which may be a little heavy for a small frame but I'm working on trimming weight where I can. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalfyre View Post
    Thanks bigcrs! It's my first "real" bike or at least one that's completely new to me. Rage43 I haven't weighed it since putting on he Outlaws but I'm guessing around 35/36 lbs. which may be a little heavy for a small frame but I'm working on trimming weight where I can. Any ideas?
    The cheapest and easiest way for you to trim weight would be with the rubber. For me at 195lbs a 850g'ish muddy marry + tubes(winter tire)is as lite as I will go. IMO, it's got to do with your riding weight and then type of riding/terrain. I ride BC all year round, it's unforgivable terrain on tires. All-in-all you could probably loose a lb+ from the rubber alone. The next thing I'd look at is the rims. Not too sure what they weigh but there is a good chuck of weight to trim there.

    Unfortunately from there, the $ to grams don't balance out, but if your willing to spend you should get anywhere between 30-33lbs with no problem.

    For perspective, my '11 large One weighs 34.6 lbs with 740g (summer WTB Tierwolf's) tires & 160ish tubes f&r. A 620g'ish dropper post, Renthal 780mm dh bars, Mavic 521's. But I have 640g XO carbon crankset. I reckon I could drop a pound without loosing the dropper post. As good as I'm willing to get it. Real world build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalfyre View Post
    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55082469@N06/8067766546/" title="MyONE by SocalFyre, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8317/8067766546_fa1a0dd875_c.jpg" width="800" height="597" alt="MyONE"></a>
    That's ONE good looking build you have there!

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    Thanks Vin! I can't tell you how stoked I am to have this frame!
    And thanks bigcrs for the input. I'm more than happy with how she is now but I'm sure I'll be tweaking things here and there. I'm just loving the ride and finding my CCDB coil settings. I had to borrow a friends 450# spring to get proper sag since it came with a 350#(which was all that was available at the time of my order). I probably could use a 400 but I'll know for sure after a couple more adjustments. Then cut some weight with a Ti coil

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    Selling my 2011 Medium One for the 2012 Jedi if anyone is interested. For a super low price.
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    Was the head tube angle on the 2012 version ever confirmed as 65*? Sean told me the steepest you could get it without an angle set was about 65.5*, which would indicate a 64* head tube angle in the charts.

    I'm super new to mountain biking and this bike is gonna be a huge gift to myself, so I'm going all out for a first bike, and am wondering if I should consider a 1x10 setup, or just stick with a 2x10, being a noob and all. Looking at the Saint cranks in the various threads, I almost feel I'd be doing the bike an injustice, equipping it with the XT cranks I'd planned on getting, haha. 170mm or 180mm fork, for a general Trail/AM setup? Weighing options between a Lyrik and a Totem.

    Thanks in advance for any insight guys. I have an idea of what I want, but thought I should check with those who've been riding these for a while, and see where I might possibly be setting self up for regret.

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    Hey Heretic Skeptic,

    I have a 2012 the One. Great bike in every way.

    My Fork: 180mm Fox Float on mine. If you are doing more AM go for a 170. My setup leans more towards DH/FR even though it STILL climbs amazing.

    Drivetrain: 1x10 is great I am not going back to a front D again. The gearing IS taller though just be aware. Even with a 32t up front.

    "If" you have any interest. I may be selling my saint 170mm with BB and a 32t AND MRP Mini as a set. I might be going to carbon to drop some weight. If you have any interest PM me... no worries either way.

    You will dig this bike for sure!




    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    Was the head tube angle on the 2012 version ever confirmed as 65*? Sean told me the steepest you could get it without an angle set was about 65.5*, which would indicate a 64* head tube angle in the charts.

    I'm super new to mountain biking and this bike is gonna be a huge gift to myself, so I'm going all out for a first bike, and am wondering if I should consider a 1x10 setup, or just stick with a 2x10, being a noob and all. Looking at the Saint cranks in the various threads, I almost feel I'd be doing the bike an injustice, equipping it with the XT cranks I'd planned on getting, haha. 170mm or 180mm fork, for a general Trail/AM setup? Weighing options between a Lyrik and a Totem.

    Thanks in advance for any insight guys. I have an idea of what I want, but thought I should check with those who've been riding these for a while, and see where I might possibly be setting self up for regret.
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    Hey fauxfreeride! Thanks for hitting me back...I appreciate it.

    I've actually realized that I need to be content with what I have, especially seeing as my funds are very limited, considering I'm about to plunk down $2650 for a frame (how the heck did I get here, haha). I already have 2x10 shifters, SLX brakes, 10-speed cassette and so forth. Selling those to lose money and then spend extra to run a 1x10, or even a 2x10 Saint setup, is just me trying to build the "perfect bike" the first time, and it's completely unnecessary. I should probably be buying something like a $1750 Giant frame, and be happy I even have a bike of this caliber, but....naaaah, haha. You only live once (as far as we know)!

    So, I'm gonna either run a 2x10 XT or 2x10 SLX setup, 24-32, and 11-32 cassette, just to start. I'll likely swap to an 11-36 at some point, and once I start breaking drivetrain parts, I'll have a much better idea of whether I'm up to a 1x10, or 2x10 with a 22-36 setup. Seems practical, especially considering how new I am to the sport. I just need to decide on SLX vs XT. Price difference is $40, so I may as well go XT, but I've been wondering about durability vs SLX, which seems to be labeled as a workhorse type of series. Anyway....

    Direct mount Front D, dual pull sound right?

    What seatpost length are you all running (I noticed the seat tube is cut off that the bottom)? Can only afford Thomson at this point. Dropper in the near future, I hope.

    Wondering what setting I should run the rear shock at, if I'm to run a 170mm fork? 200mm rear and 170mm front seems like it may have some balance issues. Experiences? Thoughts?

    What angleset are folks finding works the best? I just caught wind of the Works Components brand, but have of course been looking at the Cane Creek and VP Varial anglesets as well. Definitely wanna get that head tube angle closer to 66*, so an angleset is a must.

    Lyrik @ 170mm, or Totem @ 170mm?

    Anyone know the stack for the Medium and Large sizes?

    Medium or Large, for 5'11", 32.5" inseam, for primarily Trail/AM rig, but of course will eventually try a DH setup from time to time? 17.3" reach seems loooong.

    Yeah...I think that about covers my "minor" questions and concerns, haha! Pardon the lengthy psot all...I just want do my very best to make sure I do it right the first time, and avoid returning items to get the right stuff. Any and all help is truly, truly appreciated.

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    I know single rings are all the rage now... I guess it depends a lot on what riding you're doing, and how strong you are. The only real advantage I see to a single is you can run a better chain guide. If you have a competent mechanic setting up your FD, throwing chains isn't a issue - which makes me wonder if lack of competent wrenches is the real problem. I use my granny gear <5% of the time, but I'd be walking otherwise. And I'd rather have a tighter cassette and a dual ring then the sloppy 11-36 range that's common now (with huge gaps between gears).

    XT vs SLX cranks: sure the XT is only $40 more (unless you shop around a bit), but I can't see anything you're actually getting for that money. Durability is the same, weight is close enough, shifting is equal, and the BB bearings are the same. Spend that $40 on something else (XT shifters, IMO are worth the difference over SLX).

    Having the same travel front and rear for the sake of "balance" is overblown. IMO the different travel settings on the one are better used for either rider weight (with heavier riders using the 7" setting, to reduce the leverage ratio, and therefor needing lower spring rate and damping) or style (8" more active, 7" firmer). You could run a 150f, 200r and it wouldn't bother you unless you were constantly thinking about it. The old (2009) one had 8" travel, with a max fork of 160.

    As for size, I'd ride as many bikes as you can and make note of the critical dimensions. Figure out what you want from them..
    I calculate stack as 23.75 on the med, 23.9 on the L, based on the dimensions Canfield lists. This with a 565mm fork (200 dual or 180 single crown), and a 16mm lower headset stack (which I believe would be less with an adjustable headset). The head tubes are really close in length, and the fork is the same, so I'd expect them to be similar.

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    Thanks Joules. You're feedback really helps me to stay grounded on what's important. Only part I falter on, is liking the way the XT cranks look more than the SLX. I know, I know...I'm a simple dude for that one.

    I can get the Lyrik or Totem for the same price. I think I'm gonna go Totem, even though I'll mostly ride Trail/AM, because I weigh 225 to 230 geared up, it will allow me to grow into the bike and ride damn near anything as I learn, and it is a coil fork. The Lyrik would be Solo Air, and while there's some weight savings there, I was gonna convert the Lyrik to coil anyway, hence added money and more work. Never imagined I'd basically be building a freeride bike months back, but here I am. Totem sound like a good idea, or am I perhaps gonna be to over-biked, in your opinion?

    Stack seems great, so no worries there, if those numbers check out. It's gonna boil down to fit/feel of the cockpit. Large seems more pedal-ready, with the longer seat tube and reach, while Medium would be more playful, though the reach is still very solid for an all-around rig. I think your idea to test ride bikes with similar numbers is a great one.

    Lots to think about, but the big ones are fork and frame, so i'll work towards figuring those out, and move forward from there.

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    I have a Boxxer on mine and don't feel like it's too much. I had a 160mm lyric from the old frame for a while, based on that, I'd definitely go toward the Totem over the lyric. And, in general it's easier to shorten forks than lengthen, if you got the Lyric and felt you out grew it, you're SOL, where if you got the totem and felt it was too much, or that you might grow into it, you could shorten it by 10mm (I believe someone on the Sram forum was talking about doing that).

    with the cranks, hey whatever spins your beanie. We all have aesthetic preferences (mine is just a deliberate industrial/"I don't give a damn about looks" -type).

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    Haha! I feel you on the looks comment. I think I just need t get it out of my system, and once I crash and mess the XTs up, I'll wish I had gotten the less costly cranks. I always heard new guys lust after looks more than function, so hopefully I'll get over it. Really though, it's just the simplicity of the straight black cranks that draws me in.

    Crossup runs a Boxxer full-time as well and says that works great for him. I can't afford it, but I'm actually wondering if the Boxxer might be more plush than the Totem, as it has 35mm stanchions, while the Totem has 40mm. Hoping the Totem isn't too stiff for everyday use.

    In the end, all of this **** is fantastic, and for someone as new as I am, I may as well just grab the stuff I'm leaning towards, because I have a lot to learn anyway. I figure in a few years, I'll know better what suits me, the bike and so forth. Then, my next component choices will be more on point, and I'll need to bother you guys way less about what to do. Just let me know that the Totem won't absolutely suck for trail riding, please. I am 225 to 230 geared up, so I'm imagining the inherent stiffness won't bother me as much as a lighter rider, though I could just be fooling self.

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    I got my boxxer largely on crossup's recommendation. There are some bumping around ebay for pretty good prices. Mine is a WC, I paid about $900 for it all told (shipping, and it didn't come with the tall crown, so I bought one from someone who got both with his, but didn't need it).

    it sounds like you might not be on the same page when talking about fork stiffness. Generally what people mean is stiffness in directions other than the travel i.e., twisting, side-to-side and front-to-back flex. I don't really think there's such a thing as "too stiff" in a suspension fork. It's more that additional stiffness carries a weight penalty, so you usually just want "stiff enough." The spring and damper will determine how plush your fork is, not really the stanchion diameter.

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    You got a crazy deal on that Boxxer. Ever tried the Fox 40? That seems to be one Fox fork that people prefer over the Rockshox offering, but it's too rich for my blood. WC vs R2C2 is basically air vs coil, or is there more to it? Has to be, with the price difference. All of the 8" forks look serious as hell.

    Thank you for clearing that up, because I definitely was not on the same page. The stiffness concept makes a lot more sense now. I think I can hack the extra pound, for less worry during unskilled drops and jumps, hahaha. It'll be a great learning experience, as we talked about, and I won't feel as though the bike is lacking anything. Any apprehension will be all about me. Noe that you cleared that up, I think I'd actually prefer the Totem on The One. It's a bit burlier than the standard AM bikes, so it may deserve a burlier fork.

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    Seatpost: I have a Spec blacklite 125 on mine. Great clearance. I am 6'2" on a large.
    My headset is not a CC angle and with the 180 fork and a CCDB in 8"
    MY HA is 64.5 (I think).

    Good luck with the build!
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    Thanks! For the seatpost, I meant the total length, but I don;t think it matters as much for droppers. Trying to determine if a 410mm is too long, basically.

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    So, who in the Seattle area has a Canfield One they'd be willing to let me test ride, to get a feel for the sizing and suspension action? I'd be eternally indebted to you! I think Sean's got a medium up in Bellingham, but anyone with a medium or large, pleeeease let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    So, who in the Seattle area has a Canfield One they'd be willing to let me test ride, to get a feel for the sizing and suspension action? I'd be eternally indebted to you! I think Sean's got a medium up in Bellingham, but anyone with a medium or large, pleeeease let me know.
    I'm in Vancouver with a large 2011. 50mm stem, 160 fork and an Avy air shock. Your more than welcome to have a rip on it if your up this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    So, who in the Seattle area has a Canfield One they'd be willing to let me test ride, to get a feel for the sizing and suspension action? I'd be eternally indebted to you! I think Sean's got a medium up in Bellingham, but anyone with a medium or large, pleeeease let me know.
    I'd be happy to let you ride mine once it's done. Waiting on one part that I should have by the end of next week. I'm in Seattle. Last I checked Sean doesn't have a One right now.

    Also, I'd recommend contacting them directly and seeing if you can go up to the Ham and pick it up when you buy it. It's a fun experience!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    I'm in Vancouver with a large 2011. 50mm stem, 160 fork and an Avy air shock. Your more than welcome to have a rip on it if your up this way.
    Vancouver, BC, or Vancouver, WA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    I'd be happy to let you ride mine once it's done. Waiting on one part that I should have by the end of next week. I'm in Seattle. Last I checked Sean doesn't have a One right now.

    Also, if I were you I'd recommend contacting them directly and seeing if you can go up to the Ham and pick it up when you buy it.
    I was thinking about that (striking it up to Bellingham to grab the frame).

    What size you building up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    Was the head tube angle on the 2012 version ever confirmed as 65*? Sean told me the steepest you could get it without an angle set was about 65.5*, which would indicate a 64* head tube angle in the charts.
    Just looking at the geo charts now. For the 2012 One the HTA is 65*. That is for any fork with a axle to crown of 565mm. (fox 40, marz 66, boxxer) So with an angle set you would get 66.5 max.

    FYI,

    160mm fork AC 545mm = 66 hta
    170mm fork AC 555mm = 65.5 hta
    180mm & some 200mm forks 565mm = 65 hta

    For a 20mm change to the fork length there would be a one degree change with the HTA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    I was thinking about that (striking it up to Bellingham to grab the frame).

    What size you building up?
    It's a medium black/blue. http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...01141647_n.jpg

    Do you have a bike now? We could go to Duthie on Saturday and you could try my Jedi.

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    Thanks bigcrs! I actually knew all of that (except for confirmation on the head tube angle), but thank you for being willing to help a brotha out!

    Wonder why Sean told me the slackest you could get it with 1.5* angleset is 65.5. Was planning on asking him today. Either way, looks like you can definitely get into the 66* area, which is plenty steep enough for AM riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    It's a medium black/blue. http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...01141647_n.jpg

    Do you have a bike now? We could go to Duthie on Saturday and you could try my Jedi.
    That frame is looking reeeeal right man! Congrats! I would love to go to Duthie, but I just caught a dang cold. If I shake it by Saturday, I will definitely meet you up there! It's nothing too bad, but I don't wanna pass it on.

    I only have a hardtail (Scott Scale), but I could hit some of the easier stuff, and/or we could do a few loops of Bootcamp, which is about all I've ever done up at Duthie (was there for this past summer's Demo Day). In other words, I'm a puuuure noob, haha. Extremely ready to try just about everything though.

    I'll inbox you my info, and we'll get together this Saturay, or sometime the following week at the latest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    That frame is looking reeeeal right man! Congrats! I would love to go to Duthie, but I just caught a dang cold. If I shake it by Saturday, I will definitely meet you up there! It's nothing too bad, but I don't wanna pass it on.

    I only have a hardtail (Scott Scale), but I could hit some of the easier stuff, and/or we could do a few loops of Bootcamp, which is about all I've ever done up at Duthie (was there for this past summer's Demo Day). In other words, I'm a puuuure noob, haha. Extremely ready to try just about everything though.

    I'll inbox you my info, and we'll get together this Saturay, or sometime the following week at the latest.
    I've already got the cold and I'll be riding this weekend regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    Thanks bigcrs! I actually knew all of that (except for confirmation on the head tube angle), but thank you for being willing to help a brotha out!

    Wonder why Sean told me the slackest you could get it with 1.5* angleset is 65.5. Was planning on asking him today. Either way, looks like you can definitely get into the 66* area, which is plenty steep enough for AM riding.
    No worries! It's good to hear that there are more One's in the PNW! We should all catch up for a ride and brew!

    I have mine '11 setup with a 160mm and zero stack. I believe its around the 65.5 mark. And for the AM riding I do it's killer. Very aggressive, perfect for the mountains around Vancouver.

    Sean probably has a thousand different numbers running around in his head at any given second, an easy mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    I've already got the cold and I'll be riding this weekend regardless
    HAHA!! Well, there it is! Let's do it! What time you thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    No worries! It's good to hear that there are more One's in the PNW! We should all catch up for a ride and brew!

    I have mine '11 setup with a 160mm and zero stack. I believe its around the 65.5 mark. And for the AM riding I do it's killer. Very aggressive, perfect for the mountains around Vancouver.

    Sean probably has a thousand different numbers running around in his head at any given second, an easy mistake.
    Indeed bro! Sounds like we already have a small tribe adding up. I'll most certainly be the weakest link, but I'm all for it!

    You make a good point: He's was likely thinking 2011, and/or thinking, "It really doesn't matter man....once he gets one, he'll ride it at 63.5* ANYWHERE!" Ha!

    You in WA, or BC? They're actually about equidistant from where I presently sit typing, but just wondering. Definitely not too far to come try the large! Beats guessing, any day.

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    HAHA!! Well, there it is! Let's do it! What time you thinking?
    Not sure yet... late morning probably. Also weather dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    Not sure yet... late morning probably. Also weather dependent.
    Yep, yep. We'll get it figured out.

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    So can you run these Works Components anglesets in plus or minus direction (slackened hta or steepened hta)? I read somewhere that they aren't adjustable, and didn't get what that meant, but was hoping the guy meant you cannot adjust in half-degree increments, which would not bother me at all. I'd be at roughly 66* with an external bottom cup and 1.5* angleset, which is the goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    So can you run these Works Components anglesets in plus or minus direction (slackened hta or steepened hta)? I read somewhere that they aren't adjustable, and didn't get what that meant, but was hoping the guy meant you cannot adjust in half-degree increments, which would not bother me at all. I'd be at roughly 66* with an external bottom cup and 1.5* angleset, which is the goal.
    You can run Works backwards. They just don't adjust the angle like a cane creek.

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    Got you. Just gotta remove fork and turn it around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic Skeptic View Post
    Got you. Just gotta remove fork and turn it around?
    More like you re-install the headset cups backwards. It's kind of a process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertr View Post
    More like you re-install the headset cups backwards. It's kind of a process.
    Oh yeah, that's what I envisioned...I just kind of typed it out in a way that made it seem like it was a cakewalk, haha! My bad. Based on reviews and pricing, that seems like the way to go.

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    Its time to buy a better headset

    Just got a 40% off flyer from Bike Stop and expected the usual ****** on big discount but dayum...how about the VP Varial in 'our' size(ZS49-ZS49/30) for.......big drum roll.........
    $149.85
    I am SO all over that...CC 3 settings Angleset for sale, hehe

    Did I mention free Fedex shipping, break out you big stick, its gonna be hard to be this one
    No longer impressed with Works Components prices...sorry UK, my bucks stay here
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossup View Post
    Just got a 40% off flyer from Bike Stop and expected the usual ****** on big discount but dayum...how about the VP Varial in 'our' size(ZS49-ZS49/30) for.......big drum roll.........
    $149.85
    I am SO all over that...CC 3 settings Angleset for sale, hehe
    Killer find! Only 186g's, very interesting indeed.

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    Hmmmm...thats the only thing I DON'T like...the CC is 132g nearly 2 oz less...sure thats nothing but my bike is light because I count the grams- comes from flying hiperf RC model planes
    But you can be sure I can live with the weight penalty, which will even be higher if my current riding tool kit doesn't include the proper allen wrenchs to trail adjust the Varial.

    And when you guys find CC's for less just remember I bought the .05/1.0/1.5 Angleset..still around $200 and not convenient to adjust at all....mines been good to me(noise free) but there's a reason they call'em CANE CREAK(pun intented)

    Guess I forgot not every one is running a dual crown..so sorry to anyone who got excited but has a tapered steerer


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    Killer find! Only 186g's, very interesting indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossup View Post
    Hmmmm...thats the only thing I DON'T like...the CC is 132g nearly 2 oz less...sure thats nothing but my bike is light because I count the grams- comes from flying hiperf RC model planes
    But you can be sure I can live with the weight penalty, which will even be higher if my current riding tool kit doesn't include the proper allen wrenchs to trail adjust the Varial.

    And when you guys find CC's for less just remember I bought the .05/1.0/1.5 Angleset..still around $200 and not convenient to adjust at all....mines been good to me(noise free) but there's a reason they call'em CANE CREAK(pun intented)

    Guess I forgot not every one is running a dual crown..so sorry to anyone who got excited but has a tapered steerer
    Ive been looking for some info about this..

    I want to put an adjustable headset in but I heard negative reviews on the CC, mainly that it makes noises, creaking and popping, and that generally its not good for DH/FR use.

    Is this VP Varial a better headset for DH/FR? I put my bike through a lot of abuse and want to make sure it'll hold up.

    Lastly, what size am I looking for? I have the '11 One and a '12 888 with a 1 1/8" steer tube. I want to go with an EC lower cup to try and help bring the bottom bracket up a little.

    Thanks!

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    Well l sure don't know as I just ordered my VP unit. One thing I'd say is a 250 pound aggressive rider is going to have more trouble with any part than little ole me at 150.
    VP rates it for long travel freeride use, which to my thinking is close enough unless perhaps you race and are an animal/alien.
    Seeing how it works and how its made tells me its as strong as any headset and I'd be more concerned with the bearing used. And that can be changed, bet its a pretty standard size.
    Of course I'll be the guinea pig, but I can't test for heavy riders nor guys who jump so high they need oxygen masks.
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    UPS delivered this yesterday I'll post up pictures once I get the build started. Thanks Sean!


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    You are gonna luv that 9t on the one!
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    Awsome! The 9 tooth is killer. What are your going to run as a front ring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    Awsome! The 9 tooth is killer. What are your going to run as a front ring?
    Bling ring? They are finally available again...

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    I've got a 28t MRP Bling Ring on the way. Just shipped from MRP yesterday. I'm trying to build it up as a semi light DH bike that can still climb when needed.

    Parts I'm using:

    Spank Spike Evo 35 w/Hope pro 2 front and Canfield 9t rear hub
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    X0 crank with 28t Bling Ring
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    Canfield Crampons in purple as soon as they are available

    I'm going to try both the CCDB and Vector HLR and see which I like better.

    Still deciding on headset
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpeppyx View Post
    I've got a 28t MRP Bling Ring on the way. Just shipped from MRP yesterday. I'm trying to build it up as a semi light DH bike that can still climb when needed.

    Parts I'm using:

    Spike Spank Evo 35 w/Hope pro 2 front and Canfield 9t rear hub
    Boxxer R2C2
    X0 Brakes 200mm F/R
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    X0 short cage rear D
    X0 crank with 28t Bling Ring
    Answer Protaper DH
    Giant Contact DH direct mount stem
    Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5 tires
    Thomson Elite seatpost
    Canfield Crampons in purple as soon as they are available

    I'm going to try both the CCDB and Vector HLR and see which I like better.

    Still deciding on headset
    Nice build! My bling ring shipped yesterday too, I was waiting for 3 weeks, so once I have that my One will be ready.

    Lyrik 170 dh air
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    x7/x9 mix

    I've weighed everything and think it will be about 32lbs.

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    Micro drive + 28t Bling + XO =

    I was a little worried about range, but after racing that combo on a fast course all my worries were left in the dust.

    Very reliable hub, very happy with the Micro Drive.

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    bigcrs - That's great to hear. Can't wait to try it out for myself.

    I think my build is going to end up in the 35-36lb range. I'll be interested to see how it climbs, even though I'm setting it up as a DH bike.
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    Can everyone who has a 2012 One share their crank length and experiences? Thinking of going with 165mm cranks. I tested a Specialized Status earlier today, as it has almost precisely the same geo as the One, and it comes stock with 165mm cranks. I had no issue with them at all, but this was a parking lot test ride, so it would be nice to get feedback from you guys that have been on the trails with the One.

    Due to the test ride, however, I did manage to figure out that I want a Large One. Still looking forward to testing the suspension on either one of the bikes Sean and Vin bring down to Seattle, or Eric's build once that is complete. But yeah....no way I'd be a medium, and I really knew this in my heart, but was apprehensive about the wheelbase. The Status had a longer wheelbase in Large (almost 48" I believe), and this only made me happier, haha! I'm a noob, so stability trumps speed, cornering, etc without question. I loved the way the cockpit and bike felt, and though the suspension designs are clearly different, the geo was so similar (reach, effective top tube, seat tube length, bar width, stem length, wheelbase), that I am certain a Large is the way to go. Just need to sort out crank length and decide on color (Black/Blue vs Silver/Black), and I'm set!

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    Thing you have to remember about cornering, nimbleness etc is that this is a sub 40 pound bicycle. Its not hard to over come stability, which does come into play when its a 240 pound dirt bike. Stability is your friend and I believe contrary to the geometry in XC bikes, it enhances low speed control and ease of control as you have less concerns with balance.

    Crankwise, lots of bikes come with shorter cranks, especially in the small sizes. My Pitch had either 170 or 165 and I'm pretty sure thats what I bought to replace it which is what I run on my ONE. You can gain some crank lenght buy using Crampon pedals too while still reducing pedal strikes compared to thick pedals.
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    im 6", riding a large with 170mm cranks, 40mm stem and 760 mm bars with a 160 mm fox van upfront.
    pedaling is awesome when you time it right, i can see how i could go with 165 mm cranks, but im good with 170mm :P

    if you wanna pedal in rockgardens, get a 165mm crank with the crampon ultimate pedals.
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    Got my bling ring! Going to install the cranks, bleed my front brake and throw the rear tire on tonight!

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    Still waiting on some parts and my wheels to be built, but I had to do something on it, lol.
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    Nice touch, 28t bling?

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    less is more

    Enjoy...

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/52052428?badge=0" width="500" height="213" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/52052428">Canfield Brothers The One</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user12984166">Canfield Brothers</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p> <p>http://www.canfieldbrothers.com/frames/the-one<br /> <br /> Designed to be the &ldquo;ONE&rdquo; bike for the Aggressive rider. 6.5&Prime; front and rear for the All Mountain rider. 7&Prime; front and rear for the perfect do all Freeride. 8&Prime; front and rear setting for the best pedaling and cornering Light Downhill race machine on the market.<br /> <br /> Tuned with the &ldquo;ONE&rdquo; suspension; the black magic of pedaling perfection in all gears &ndash; up or downhill &ndash; standing or seating. Nothing but 100 percent power to the rear wheel. Canfield Brothers has spent 11 years perfecting parallel link suspension technology &ndash; longer than any current parallel link suspension on the market &ndash; Giving you the pedaling performance you never dreamed was possible.</p>

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    Nice!

    Part two will have some killer riding segment eh???

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    Sick!

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    I'm not finished yet, but it's at least starting to look like a bike. Waiting on my rear casette and need to do some cable routing and work. Also need to send the fork off to get an Avalanche cartridge.






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    Sweet job xpeppyx. I've been holding back but pretty sure I am pulling my 180 off for next year and trying a dual crown on my 12.

    Good luck with it!
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    Yeah xpeppyx... LOVING your black and purple build! The links and Ultimates look SO good together! Great job!

    BE sure to send us some riding shots once you get the beast dirty!

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    XO DH question.

    Just got my 28t bling and micro G3. Was curious how you guys like the carbon cranks on your Ones?

    Thanks!
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    Beautiful color combo xpeppyx

    Throw a micro guide and you have even more BB clearance!

    Loving the skulls on the fork too!

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    i did a review on my canfield one 2012

    Canfield one mountain bike review - YouTube

    my first and only review of anything

    i kept breaking the XX1 chain, so now I am running a shimano 11 speed chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    i did a review on my canfield one 2012

    Canfield one mountain bike review - YouTube

    my first and only review of anything
    Nice review (and setup)... Ridden my One many times down j-drop and it absolutely slays it every time!

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    j-drop is a really good and tough trail, just getting to it and out from it is a bit of a pain. in my opinion definitely the most difficult local trail.

    Haven't really had a chance to push the one on that trail yet, still busy fiddling away with my shock and fork, getting close to dialed in now.

    rode it pretty cautiously in video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    i did a review on my canfield one 2012

    Canfield one mountain bike review - YouTube

    my first and only review of anything

    i kept breaking the XX1 chain, so now I am running a shimano 11 speed chain.
    Good job

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    First time Canfield owner

    2013 CCDBA should be on its way soon. Hopefully I will have it built up in the next few weeks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xpeppyx View Post
    I'm not finished yet, but it's at least starting to look like a bike. Waiting on my rear casette and need to do some cable routing and work. Also need to send the fork off to get an Avalanche cartridge.
    Very nice!

    I wanted to go purple as well but I think I will go orange to match my new truck.

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    Thanks Supra, it's actually done now. Hopefully I'll be able to test ride it tomorrow


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    Quote Originally Posted by xpeppyx View Post
    Thanks Supra, it's actually done now. Hopefully I'll be able to test ride it tomorrow

    Awesome bike! Little much black/contrast when shoppin
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    Has anybody run a 650b wheel up front on a One? What fork did you run and did you like, dislike it? Coming off a Lenz 29er and I've grown to like larger wheels just not 29er large, seems like the 650b up front could be a good option but im worried that the bike might be to slack for climbing and have wheel flop? The 650 rim is only 1" larger than the 26 so the wheel will only sit about 13mm higher than a 26, if I use a shorter travel fork like a 170 then it should sit about as tall as a 180 fork. Thought about a Fox Talas 180, then the fork will sit about as high as a Fox 40 and in the 140 position it would be like a 150mm fork. Any thoughts?

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    I've been thinking the same thing of late. Currently have a 170mm 66 of my one and I have previously used a 2.8 Michelin Comp 32 with the fork. Just guessing but that tire is absolutely massive and I'd be willing to bet that it is bigger than say a 650b 2.35 Hans Dampf? May have to take some measurements with it mounted and get to the bottom of this. I do recall loving that tire and it's ride qualities and am starting to suspect it may partially have been because it's diameter allowed me to roll certain terrain that a smaller tire would get hung up on. As I'm usually running my One in 7" mode I could also use a slightly higher bb. Does anyone have a guess as to how much my bb height would rise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by confused View Post
    Has anybody run a 650b wheel up front on a One? What fork did you run and did you like, dislike it? Coming off a Lenz 29er and I've grown to like larger wheels just not 29er large, seems like the 650b up front could be a good option but im worried that the bike might be to slack for climbing and have wheel flop? The 650 rim is only 1" larger than the 26 so the wheel will only sit about 13mm higher than a 26, if I use a shorter travel fork like a 170 then it should sit about as tall as a 180 fork. Thought about a Fox Talas 180, then the fork will sit about as high as a Fox 40 and in the 140 position it would be like a 150mm fork. Any thoughts?
    I ran my 2011 ONE 650b front ans back... with 2.1 neo-motos(Pacentti) Used both the 66 from Marzzochi and the Xfusion 650b/26 vengance no issue with either. I don't think you can put a 650 rear on the 2012 though

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    I thought the geometry from 11 to 12 was pretty much the same but only slightly higher BB. What would change that the frame could no longer accommodate a 659 b tire?

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    It was already a close fit on my 2011 but I think when they changed the brace in the rear triangle it lost that gap. I know a few have tried it on the '12 but wouldn't fit.

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    Just finished this week. I havent popped its cherry yet as I am out of town this weekend
    I will probably get some more pics next weekend!

    View better quality and larger on PB

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    Getting close to finishing my 2012 One light DH build. It's going to be my park bike plus some of are knarlier rocky trails bike. I got a Type 2 X9 medium cage RD and can't seem to figure out how it will clear the 36T cassette. I thought I had confirmed that med cage was good (this is CB 9T hub and 28tooth bling ring).

    This is my first ever bike build, but I've been pretty successful in adjusting RD and FDs before.

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    Mine is set up the same rear derailleur and 36 tooth with a 28 or 32 up front. No issues. Set your low and high limits and double check the B tension screw for jockey wheel clearance on the 36 tooth cog

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    I have a X0 short cage and it clears the 36t quite nicely. 28t bling ring up front and 9-36 in the back

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    They are all out of black 12's... I've been trying to find a used medium but people are holding on to these things like gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpca10 View Post
    They are all out of black 12's... I've been trying to find a used medium but people are holding on to these things like gold.
    I believe the 2013's are only a couple of months away, I bet if your willing to wait you'll get the black you want....

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    2012 One!!!-img_0514_3.jpg2012 One!!!-img_0518_2.jpg

    LOVE this bike! Great climber, great descender. Climbs at least as well as my 26" Bandit.

    Highlights:

    -33 lbs. even
    -medium frame
    -CC DBair is using the factory-supplied compression and rebound settings.
    -CK Inset 5 headset
    -Vengeance 170 HLR air fork
    -SixC 785mm bar
    -Havoc 50mm stem
    -XT 775 brakes with 180 rotors front/back, Goodridge hoses
    -Same XO/Bling Ring/11-36t drive train that many are using. Crank length is 170mm and that seems plenty short.
    -Crampon Ultimate pedals (GREAT pedals!)
    -Flow rims (non-EX version)
    -Sapim Force spokes
    -Hope Pro 2 Evo front hub
    -CK 142x12 rear hub
    -Muddy Mary 2.35's trailstar compound, tubeless

    Bottom bracket height is 14.0" in the 8" travel setting and 13.5" in the 7" travel setting with the 565mm a-to-c fork and external lower cup headset.

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    Simple, clean and good looking sums up that build! You will enjoy that ride, Congrats

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsullivan View Post
    Simple, clean and good looking sums up that build! You will enjoy that ride, Congrats
    Thank you! It's definitely a fun bike and I'm looking forward to riding the hell out of it.

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    A bit pre-mature photo shoot, but after putting the wheels on, was excited to take some photos. Still got some cable work to do, all the chain, bleed the brakes and set up for fit, but still photo worthy.

    Was a bit shocked by the weight...my scale says 38lbs as seated. That is with the CCDB, DH tubes, 2.5" DH tires...but expected < 35lbs. Then again my scale could be off.

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    Nice job. I'd be a little shocked too, you've spent some coin. By the looks of it, that should be 36ish as it sits. What size frame, and is that a world cup? Ditch the tubes and go tubeless and get some Ti on that shock. Then I'd weigh it with a different scale.....

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    Thanks. Yeah I spent some coin. I really only opted for the ENVE rims cause I thought they could run tubeless like my AM ones on my all around bike (they can't according to ENVE). Also, ENVE has supposedly some of the best CS and durability (despite that one PB review). I am a tad regretful for the decision TBH cause 823s could run tubeless easy and the DH tubes probably make up a large part of the difference in #s. They are also a royal PITA to get tires onto! I did a lot of swearing this morning.

    Its a WC air fork. I was planning on a Ti shock cause, WTH, I've spent enough already, why not go for broke? Truth is, I only spend a lot on my hobbies and have a good job, so in the end I think it works out well. My car was $5k. haha.

    I knew the tires/tubes and shock were on the heavy side, which is ok, as I have a season pass to our local lift access. I didn't expect it to be quite so heavy.

    Parts list off hand is:
    Deity Dirty30 bars
    XT brakes
    Hayes rotors
    ENVE DH rims, CK front, CB 9t rear
    X9 cranks + bling ring + micro guide
    X9 RD
    Maxxis DHF, front 42a, rear 60a
    Maxxis DH tubes
    Thompson seatpost
    Deity direct mount stem.
    ODI Rogue grips
    WTB saddle
    Hope QR seatclamp
    Twenty6 Ti Predator pedals (only thing, the pins don't last near rocks and they tenderize any flesh)

    First bike I've ever built. Learning process!

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    It's a sick build for sure! I'm a bit like you, a lot of my coin go's into bikes. The amount I have spent on different suspension setups alone would pay for carbon rims. It's a healthy hobby.

    Your going to have a blast on that rig, I love my One. I'm really looking forward to my next The One!

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    Oh man, ditch the DH tubes and get some light or even just normal tubes. You do not need DH tubes when running DH tires and that right there will save you 2 pounds. If you are that worried about pinch flats then maybe DH tube in rear but at that point you aren't that worried about weight.

    My One is at 34.5 lbs with a totem air, xfusion vector with ti coil. Muddy Mary FR tire up front tubeless and a tubed rear Schwalbe with snakeskin but single ply. Other parts are comparable but my wheels are Stans Flow ex so likely a little heavier than yours. You can easily find some weight to lose in there and my money lies with your rubber setup.

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    My build is a lot like yours and it came in at 35.5lbs. Same bars, stem, ccdb, seatpost. I have a boxxer coil and carbon crank arms but I'm running tubeless. My wheels are probably heavier too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbalanced View Post

    Parts list off hand is:
    Deity Dirty30 bars
    XT brakes
    Hayes rotors
    ENVE DH rims, CK front, CB 9t rear
    X9 cranks + bling ring + micro guide
    X9 RD
    Maxxis DHF, front 42a, rear 60a
    Maxxis DH tubes
    Thompson seatpost
    Deity direct mount stem.
    ODI Rogue grips
    WTB saddle
    Hope QR seatclamp
    Twenty6 Ti Predator pedals (only thing, the pins don't last near rocks and they tenderize any flesh)
    Cheaper WTB saddles are heavy as hell. You could save up to 200ish grams on the saddle alone if it's a particularly heavy one. Ancient Hayes rotors are pretty chunky compared to SRAM or Shimano's current stuff as far as rotors go.

    Those are the two biggest things that stand out to my weight weenie filter other than going tubeless. My One was 32.5 lbs with light tires. It has an air Lyrik, a CCDB-Air, and AM rims though.
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