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    Wildfire Damaged Trail Status Page

    I'm consolidating all the information I can find on the various trails that have been damaged during the Wildfires.

    Here is the link

    If you can confirm the status of a particular trail or would like to add a suspect trail to the list please post here or email directly.

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    Looks great. Thanks for taking the time to do a page for everyone to keep track.

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    I only have this crappy cell picture, Sweetwater from the Chula Vista trailhead.
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    According to the google earth map from the SD emergency homepage the fire did not hit iron mountain or the santa luz loop.

    http://www.sdcountyemergency.com/firemaps.html

    It gives a decent overview.

    Here's to a speedy recovery.

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    thanks bill, that is a succinct reference page
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    My stupid question for the night. If a trail is burned, I assume it is closed. Question would be for how long they are typically closed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djphaneuf
    My stupid question for the night. If a trail is burned, I assume it is closed. Question would be for how long they are typically closed?
    My guess would be a few months, at least.

    When Santiago Oaks in OC burned it was closed down for a good time while they did re-seeding and other park/trail work to try to get the area back to being okay/safe.

    Just a friendly reminder - please follow all trail signs. When the area is closed, stay out of it. If mountain bikers go into closed trails/parks it really looks bad on all of our part and may hurt trail access once the trails are re-opened.

    There are still quite a few open and available areas to ride. Take advantage of them!

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    CNF Closed

    Thanks for the info up BP, will buy you a beer next time I make it to Stone (if I ever get my azz outta Silverado).

    For everyones info, all of Cleveland NF (all regions) is closed until further notice, so all of those trails regardless of their degree of "doneness" are off limits. Check Bill's site for local county and city stuff.

    And to double up on Wordy's words: PLEASE don't poach! All eyes will be on the MTB community and ANY illegal trail activity will be noticed and used against us. Pass the word to your friends who may not "get it" to make sure it gets out. Thanks!
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    Sweetwater Reservoir

    I called yesterday to check on the status of Sweetwater reservoir and if the trails were open to hikers and bikers. I was told it was. If someone want to confirm, their number is 619-420-1413.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL
    For everyones info, all of Cleveland NF (all regions) is closed until further notice, so all of those trails regardless of their degree of "doneness" are off limits. Check Bill's site for local county and city stuff.
    Additionally, I'm fairly certain (about 98%) that *all* national forests in So Cal (Angeles, San Bernardino, Cleveland, and the other one) are all closed to the public with MINOR exceptions right now.

    However, and Bill, you may want to check this out.. I read on another thread that Elfin was open? It was updated to include text about the wildfires. Check their site, maybe?

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    Confirmed, all of Santa Luz trails are untouched and opened.

    Black Mtn, in PQ/RB also escaped any damage and is open. Rode it last night.
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    Cuyamaca WIDE OPEN. I called yesterday and was welcomed by the ranger!

    Rode the GRAND LOOP (25 miles) parking at East Mesa Fire Rd crossing and riding all the ST we could get on! The deadfall is abundant, the winds that fanned the fires last week elsewhere were busy knocking down trees that were burnt and dead from the 2003 fire. We came across at least a dozen form Azelea Glen to the bottom of the downhill at the "horse trailer" parking lot. Looks like the FS people have done a great job so far clearing out many trees already. Give yourself an extra HOUR to do this ride. Getting on and off the bike breaks the flow..........

    Beautiful day out there, get back to our forests and frolic!

    No horse'n around now, ya hear?!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aword4you
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    Just a friendly reminder - please follow all trail signs. When the area is closed, stay out of it. If mountain bikers go into closed trails/parks it really looks bad on all of our part and may hurt trail access once the trails are re-opened.

    There are still quite a few open and available areas to ride. Take advantage of them!
    I am certain all trails at Hodges are closed.........but I saw lots of cars in the parking lot
    at the north trail head and lots of bikes on cars leaving at dusk. Please...if they are
    closed, stay out.....don't make us mtbrs look bad.

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    Noble Canyon still closed until "the end of the fire emergency". Right now the biggest problem is the many trees down across the trails from the Santa Ana winds, the USFS will need to go in with a chainsaw crew to clear the trails and that could take more than a few days. I've asked for a re-open date and will post ASAFP.

    Also, the Nov 10th trail work on Indian Creek has been canceled.

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    San Diego, CA - October 22, 2007

    To protect public health and safety, the Cleveland National Forest will be closed to the public, effective today, October 22, 2007 through the end of the fire emergency. Going into or being upon National Forest System lands, roads, or trails within the Cleveland National Forest is not allowed.

    A violation of these prohibitions is punishable by a fine of not more than $5,000 for an individual or $10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than six months, or both.16 USC 551 and 18 USC 3559, 3571, and 3581.

    Check Before You Go! For additional information on the forest use restrictions, call (619) 593-2183s or go to www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland.
    Shuttle Noble? Hell No!

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    Holy Jim and Trabuco Creek Trails?

    Hey mtbbill, the whole Luge is burned? Has anyone heard if the fires had missed the Holy Jims & Trabuco trails?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stripes
    Nice page, Bill. Anything in LA county get hit or just OC and SDC?

    Glad everyone is safe.

    I'm not sure about the LA Area, but I think so, The Malibu had fires. I don't know the area well enough to know for sure. I gladly put some info from that area if I get some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hecklermark
    Noble Canyon still closed until "the end of the fire emergency". Right now the biggest problem is the many trees down across the trails from the Santa Ana winds, the USFS will need to go in with a chainsaw crew to clear the trails and that could take more than a few days. I've asked for a re-open date and will post ASAFP.

    Also, the Nov 10th trail work on Indian Creek has been canceled.

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    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    San Diego, CA - October 22, 2007

    To protect public health and safety, the Cleveland National Forest will be closed to the public, effective today, October 22, 2007 through the end of the fire emergency. Going into or being upon National Forest System lands, roads, or trails within the Cleveland National Forest is not allowed.

    A violation of these prohibitions is punishable by a fine of not more than $5,000 for an individual or $10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than six months, or both.16 USC 551 and 18 USC 3559, 3571, and 3581.

    Check Before You Go! For additional information on the forest use restrictions, call (619) 593-2183s or go to www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland.
    Thanks for the update Mark. You might want to padlock Aquaholics bike's down. For we all know he will not adhere to the warning. He is probably up there as we speak bunnyhopping over the downed trees.

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    anybody have an idea of when San Bernardino forest is opening for Hurkey and Santa Ana? FYI, I hit Hahn Buena Vista/VanDeVenter trails in Palm Springs this weekend, quite nice right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICPAYDIRT
    Hey mtbbill, the whole Luge is burned? Has anyone heard if the fires had missed the Holy Jims & Trabuco trails?
    From what I have seen on STR Holy Jim and Trabuco should be fine. Pretty sure all of Luge burned. I think Joplin also is probably okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirsam84
    anybody have an idea of when San Bernardino forest is opening for Hurkey and Santa Ana? FYI, I hit Hahn Buena Vista/VanDeVenter trails in Palm Springs this weekend, quite nice right now.
    My best guess is that the forests (possibly except for the areas that burned in the Santiago fire) will all reopen around the same time. I'd still give it a few weeks... Especially with the santa ana's forecasted for this weekend. Not sure they will reopen knowing that warm winds are coming back again.

    They may even stay closed until we get some rain.

    BTW, the fact that SDMBA is cancelling trail work 2 weeks out makes me kinda think that they'll be closed until mid-Nov at the earliest (or that SDMBA was told it'll be awhile before they re-open).

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    Here's a link to an excellent map showing the burn areas. Thank goodness San Diego's mountains were mostly spared this time.

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/firemap/
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    Quote Originally Posted by djphaneuf
    My stupid question for the night. If a trail is burned, I assume it is closed. Question would be for how long they are typically closed?

    no they are open.....(at least Simi Valley trails were after the fire)

    You need to go out and do trail days on your local trails. Erosion will be at a peak right now. Dig 45 degree ditches for drains on the steep stuff.....this cuts down the anount of water that will erode the trail and make ruts
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    Quote Originally Posted by aword4you
    Additionally, I'm fairly certain (about 98%) that *all* national forests in So Cal (Angeles, San Bernardino, Cleveland, and the other one) are all closed to the public with MINOR exceptions right now.

    However, and Bill, you may want to check this out.. I read on another thread that Elfin was open? It was updated to include text about the wildfires. Check their site, maybe?
    Elifin is open. I drive by the trailhead every day to and from work. The ranger was unlocking the gate Monday AM. It was closed last week but no longer.

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    post-fire weekend ride suggestions?

    Quote Originally Posted by aword4you
    Additionally, I'm fairly certain (about 98%) that *all* national forests in So Cal (Angeles, San Bernardino, Cleveland, and the other one) are all closed to the public with MINOR exceptions right now.

    However, and Bill, you may want to check this out.. I read on another thread that Elfin was open? It was updated to include text about the wildfires. Check their site, maybe?

    So for someone living in Orange County, where can I go to ride? I assume that Aliso Canyon is open, and obviously Carbon Canyon.... but how about the San Juan Trail? Just curious.

    So obviously my FAVORITE trail (Old Camp on Modjeska Grade) is closed along with The Luge and Whiting. I'm sad. ;-( But I guess it's rather selfish of me to be lamenting over some trail that was burned when people just lost thier homes and everything they own.
    Anyways, just looking for riding suggestions to get out there again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeAddict
    So for someone living in Orange County, where can I go to ride? I assume that Aliso Canyon is open, and obviously Carbon Canyon.... but how about the San Juan Trail? Just curious.

    So obviously my FAVORITE trail (Old Camp on Modjeska Grade) is closed along with The Luge and Whiting. I'm sad. ;-( But I guess it's rather selfish of me to be lamenting over some trail that was burned when people just lost thier homes and everything they own.
    Anyways, just looking for riding suggestions to get out there again.
    Orange County parks are all open, except for Whiting. You can check their site (google!) to find out the names/locations.

    San Juan Trail is on national forest land, and is closed. Unfortunately we're without quite a few of our great trails while the forests are closed, but they will re-open soon! Just be patient and hit up the local spots for now.

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    Trails in Ventura and LA County are open

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbbill
    I'm not sure about the LA Area, but I think so, The Malibu had fires. I don't know the area well enough to know for sure. I gladly put some info from that area if I get some.
    The trails in Ventura County that are not part of the Forest Division are open. This would include areas in Simi, Agoura, Moorpark, Malibu Creek State Park, Reseda and Sycamore Canyon. I know that all national forest trails are closed until possibly next week as there will be more Santa Ana winds ahead this weekend. I am riding all the local trails in Ventura and LA County. They are in great condition. The bit of rain last weekend made them nice and tacky.
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    So, according to the firemap of the Harris fire, Four Corners, where Honey Springs Rd meets Lyons Valley Rd, was not hit. Lyons Valley Trading Post was not hit. Can anyone confirm this?

    Has anyone been out there?

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    Hodges update

    for any one who cares:All of Hodges is completely closed down (obviously). It looks like it wont be open of a while. All entrances are blocked off. If your caught riding back there, the San Dieguito rangers will just tell you to leave. I'm sure it will open once they clean things up, and things mellow out. THE WHOLE PLACE IS A MOONSCAPE! Just a barren waste land. I did manage to get some pics though.
















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    Thanks everyone for the feedback I have been getting here, the PMs and email. It has really helped with pulling the information together. It looks like we will have to wait for the National Forests to open up before we will know for sure on some of the trails.

    Thanks again,

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    Here's an idea. Check out this thread:

    Ranger Led Coe Trail Work

    Maybe the Forest Service would be open to some volunteer help to do trail damage inspections. It wouldn't be wide open riding, but it could speed up the process and build some goodwill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyracegirl
    So, according to the firemap of the Harris fire, Four Corners, where Honey Springs Rd meets Lyons Valley Rd, was not hit. Lyons Valley Trading Post was not hit. Can anyone confirm this?

    Has anyone been out there?
    I am going to do a road ride out there on Thursday, I'll let you know.
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    Anyone know if Mt. Woodson is closed? How about Lake Poway?

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    Both Lake Poway and Mt. Woodson are closed. I drove by the entrance yesterday. They might open up in a few weeks hopefully.

    Iron Mtn is open around the corner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NappyT
    Both Lake Poway and Mt. Woodson are closed. I drove by the entrance yesterday. They might open up in a few weeks hopefully.

    Iron Mtn is open around the corner...
    Thanks for the info. Looks like I may have to hit Iron Mt./Ellie.

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    Hollenbeck Canyon is burned with signs saying "Closed for Restoration". The signs may not be posted at lesser known entrances, but it was posted at the main entrance on Honey Springs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyracegirl
    So, according to the firemap of the Harris fire, Four Corners, where Honey Springs Rd meets Lyons Valley Rd, was not hit. Lyons Valley Trading Post was not hit. Can anyone confirm this?

    Has anyone been out there?
    I finally was able to ride out there today. Both Otay and Honey Springs are burt all the way to the top of Honey Springs. I took Lyons Valley road and it clears up, the trading post was not affected at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mealsonwheels
    Hollenbeck Canyon is burned with signs saying "Closed for Restoration". The signs may not be posted at lesser known entrances, but it was posted at the main entrance on Honey Springs.
    Damn I was going to go ride that on Sunday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMFC
    Damn I was going to go ride that on Sunday.
    I was going to ride there this afternoon until I saw the signs when I pulled into the parking lot. I opted for Sweetwater which was in pretty good shape considering the devastation.

    I forgot to thank Bill for keeping track of the trail closures.

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    Lake Hodges is supposed to open late this week according to some of the rangers. I will let you know if I hear anything new.

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    Noble?

    Maybe it is in another thread, but how come Noble isn't listed? Or am I going to get flammed for asking about something I shouldn't be?

    I lived in SD for 5 years, moved away 2 years ago. Ain't going back to visit friends until I know I can ride Noble!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam-eye-am
    Maybe it is in another thread, but how come Noble isn't listed? Or am I going to get flammed for asking about something I shouldn't be?

    I lived in SD for 5 years, moved away 2 years ago. Ain't going back to visit friends until I know I can ride Noble!
    Sounds like a song to me. "I'm going back to Noble to Noble". From the looks of Aquaholics recent post Noble is cleared and good to go.
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    Sweet!

    Makes T-day weekend planning easier now that there is no excuse to not pass through

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    I rode it yesterday. Only encountered one problematic tree during the entire ride but that was up in the Laguna Lakes area. Noble was its usual bombfest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam-eye-am
    Maybe it is in another thread, but how come Noble isn't listed? Or am I going to get flammed for asking about something I shouldn't be?

    I lived in SD for 5 years, moved away 2 years ago. Ain't going back to visit friends until I know I can ride Noble!
    Noble was never really in danger, but I'll add it on the next update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbbill
    Noble was never really in danger, but I'll add it on the next update.
    Fire danger no, but deadfall yes. Third picture on the rocks.
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