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    Widowmaker from Westridge to Sully Canyon

    Anyone ridden Widowmaker into Sully Canyon recently? What is it like? I'm heading up there tomorrow and am curious if it worth the climb up Westridge to attempt.

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    Widow is pretty dumb right now. The ruts are wide and uneventful. The only sketch factor is the dry conditions. You can pretty much fly down it. I'll be riding that exact loop about 2 hours from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms
    Widow is pretty dumb right now. The ruts are wide and uneventful. The only sketch factor is the dry conditions. You can pretty much fly down it. I'll be riding that exact loop about 2 hours from now.
    You doing *-Drop too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaredama
    You doing *-Drop too?
    Naaaa, I did that yesterday morning. We'll be looping back around to Westridge for the singletrack. Didn't notice you were including Sully Canyon, which is as fun as it's ever been. Good call.

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    I think it's pretty fun but I'm not the most aggresive rider. I'm just happy to stay on the bike all the way down. Haven't done * drop. I've heard to stay away, that it's full of Poison Oak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Bottoms
    I'll be riding that exact loop about 2 hours from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gravity
    I think it's pretty fun but I'm not the most aggresive rider. I'm just happy to stay on the bike all the way down. Haven't done * drop. I've heard to stay away, that it's full of Poison Oak.
    I rode it two weeks ago and it seemed fine. PO normally doesn't bother me but my buddy is super sensitive and he didn't have a problem.

    I'm riding it Sunday morning I'll report back afterward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by endo verendo
    I saw Dusty! I saw Dusty!
    really??? is he still wearing that tutu
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    Where on Westridge is Widowmaker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicylemark
    Where on Westridge is Widowmaker?
    I got my trail names mixed up. I was referring to the Westridge drop. It starts at the first trash can on Westridge and drops into Sullivan Canyon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaredama
    I got my trail names mixed up. I was referring to the Westridge drop. It starts at the first trash can on Westridge and drops into Sullivan Canyon.
    I thought you were talking about that one - Widow is the firebreak and drops off the peak above Caballero cyn and down to dirt Mulhulland

    W-drop is fine, if you try and ride the left side and drop in, it's gotten very steep - but still doable and the rest is fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by macrider
    I thought you were talking about that one - Widow is the firebreak and drops off the peak above Caballero cyn and down to dirt Mulhulland

    W-drop is fine, if you try and ride the left side and drop in, it's gotten very steep - but still doable and the rest is fine
    I cleaned W-Drop, Widow and the Royal J this morning. Weak action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macrider
    I thought you were talking about that one - Widow is the firebreak and drops off the peak above Caballero cyn and down to dirt Mulhulland

    W-drop is fine, if you try and ride the left side and drop in, it's gotten very steep - but still doable and the rest is fine
    I think I'm giving up trying to make sense of all these names. The Westridge drop into Sully cyn at the first trash-can I've heard called both Widowmaker and Pirates. And I think that trail you're talking about that's a firebreak (does that mean single track?) going from the top of Caballero cyn down to Dirt Mulhulland is the "scratch" section of "scratch and cookies". There are two parts to whatever that trail is. You ride from the very top, near where cliffside comes out (which is probably called something else). It's a short section that crosses dirt Mulhulland and then re-enters the woods and goes all the way down to the bottom of cab cyn. It's not very steep but it's got a major rut down the middle and kinda technical compared to the rest of the stuff in the area.

    Whatever. I know what i like to ride and that's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0gravity
    I think I'm giving up trying to make sense of all these names. The Westridge drop into Sully cyn at the first trash-can I've heard called both Widowmaker and Pirates. And I think that trail you're talking about that's a firebreak (does that mean single track?) going from the top of Caballero cyn down to Dirt Mulhulland is the "scratch" section of "scratch and cookies". There are two parts to whatever that trail is. You ride from the very top, near where cliffside comes out (which is probably called something else). It's a short section that crosses dirt Mulhulland and then re-enters the woods and goes all the way down to the bottom of cab cyn. It's not very steep but it's got a major rut down the middle and kinda technical compared to the rest of the stuff in the area.

    Whatever. I know what i like to ride and that's that.
    The first drop into Sully off of Westridge is W-drop or 1st Crack - those are the only names I've heard

    Widowmaker has always been the firebreak, deeply rutted that goes from the top of Gizmo Peak straight down to Mulholland heading exactly West - Scratchy also drops off of Gizmo (heading North) and drops to Mull - but it is the top of Hectic (the first trail off Gizmo heading into Cab if your are heading from East to West) - Hectic is the one with the large rut down the middle - the next off of Gizmo is Itchy - which is the top of Cookies (also drops to Mull and then into Cab) - but those are not Widow - from the top of Scratchy you'd continue along the top of Gizmo heading West - you'd bypass the trail off the backside (Bent Arrow) and continue to the end - the firebreak is just that, a wide rutted firebreak that heads steeply down to Mull. - that is Widowmaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by macrider
    The first drop into Sully off of Westridge is W-drop or 1st Crack - those are the only names I've heard

    Widowmaker has always been the firebreak, deeply rutted that goes from the top of Gizmo Peak straight down to Mulholland heading exactly West - Scratchy also drops off of Gizmo (heading North) and drops to Mull - but it is the top of Hectic (the first trail off Gizmo heading into Cab if your are heading from East to West) - Hectic is the one with the large rut down the middle - the next off of Gizmo is Itchy - which is the top of Cookies (also drops to Mull and then into Cab) - but those are not Widow - from the top of Scratchy you'd continue along the top of Gizmo heading West - you'd bypass the trail off the backside (Bent Arrow) and continue to the end - the firebreak is just that, a wide rutted firebreak that heads steeply down to Mull. - that is Widowmaker
    Correct. Many people here will know Gizmo as "Farmer's Ridge".

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    Quote Originally Posted by macrider
    but those are not Widow - from the top of Scratchy you'd continue along the top of Gizmo heading West - you'd bypass the trail off the backside (Bent Arrow) and continue to the end - the firebreak is just that, a wide rutted firebreak that heads steeply down to Mull. - that is Widowmaker
    Okay, so, you're on Gizmo, just went past a yellow gate, first RH drop (insert name, scratchy?) leads to Hectic. Next RH? drop ( Itchy?) leads to Cookies.
    If you dont drop into the LH ST (bent arrow?) and continue on, you hit Widowmaker?
    We missed the Hectic drop-in , went straight and ended up in a loose shale rockslide ( Widowmaker?).

    So if this is all correct, how do BentArrow and Cookies compare to Hectic? And where is the Farmers ST?



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    Quote Originally Posted by scottay
    Okay, so, you're on Gizmo, just went past a yellow gate, first RH drop (insert name, scratchy?) leads to Hectic. Next RH? drop ( Itchy?) leads to Cookies.
    If you dont drop into the LH ST (bent arrow?) and continue on, you hit Widowmaker?
    We missed the Hectic drop-in , went straight and ended up in a loose shale rockslide ( Widowmaker?).

    So if this is all correct, how do BentArrow and Cookies compare to Hectic? And where is the Farmers ST?



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    Yes to all of those things - rockslide isn't how I would describe Widow - it's a clear (yes loose) very rutted firebreak that follows the west end of Farmers Ridge and drops down to where Broken Arrow comes out at dirt Mull.

    Cookies is similar to Hectic - a long ridge s/t, not as rutted, and the last piecehas lots of loose round rocks ("cookies") - fun, challenging in that last bit before you hit the bottom

    Farmers s/t? hmmmm, not sure what that is - maybe the same as Bent Arrow? - seems like there are multiple names floating around for a lot of these....
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    thanks for the info . If you use geoladders, the Farmers ST is on there.


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