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    I've seen about 5 snakes in PQ canyon this year too. If you haven't noticed there's an absolutely INSANE amount of bunnies in that canyon which explains the excessive snakes. I see bunnies running across the trail almost the whole Freakin time. Even worse I saw a mountain lion on the far north west side of the canyon chasing after something in the bushes. Highly unusual for a mt lion to be out this far west, but one was found dead on the road out here earlier this year.

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    This afternoon my wife and I took the dog for a walk around Lake Calavera, and right in the middle of the trail near Skyhaven drive was a baby Rattler, about 1foot and a few inches long. I tried to skoot him off the trail but the only stick I could find near me was really short, and he just coiled up and started rattling when I went to move him, so we moved on. Later I saw people near where I spotted him yelling and such, hopefully no one got bit, I think they were prob just messing with the little guy.

    Then on the other side of the lake we came across a baby Gardner snake about the same length, laying across the trail.


    It was like 58f and the wind was blowing, plus it is nearly December, what the heck are snakes doing out right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    It was like 58f and the wind was blowing, plus it is nearly December, what the heck are snakes doing out right now?
    Last supper before bed time? Confused by the hot spell perhaps?

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    Since it's my first year down here, I was sort of wondering when rattlesnake season ended. I also figured they'd go away once it got cold, but then remembered I saw them up in Big Bear when it was relatively cool up there. Not too long ago, just after day light savings, I was riding at night by moonlight and ran over something that sort of snapped and brushed off my shoe with a clunk and gave off about one second of the tell tale "water sprinkler" rattle sound, but it didn't rattle as I rode off. I was hoping it was just a wayward weed in the middle of the trail, rather than me running over a rattler and it making an attempt at my ankle/calf/shin. I didn't go back to check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    This afternoon my wife and I took the dog for a walk around Lake Calavera, and right in the middle of the trail near Skyhaven drive was a baby Rattler, about 1foot and a few inches long. I tried to skoot him off the trail but the only stick I could find near me was really short, and he just coiled up and started rattling when I went to move him, so we moved on. Later I saw people near where I spotted him yelling and such, hopefully no one got bit, I think they were prob just messing with the little guy.

    Then on the other side of the lake we came across a baby Gardner snake about the same length, laying across the trail.


    It was like 58f and the wind was blowing, plus it is nearly December, what the heck are snakes doing out right now?
    Rattle snakes are out and about all year here in sunny SoCal.

    Took me a while to figure that out after moving here from Montana.

    They're just a little slower and less "active" in the winter it seems.

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    I was just shocked to see 2 snakes on such a cold and cloudy day.
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    I bunny-hopped a baby rattler a few weeks ago, on a cold day not long after rain. It was about the size of a #2 pencil. Good thing, because the air I got bunny-hopping was about the diameter of a sharpie.

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    Back in the '80's we were on a group ride of around 15 riders. We started from Sorrento Valley and went under I-5 through the storm drain that led to the PQ mesa area. I was riding last in the long line through the pipe when I heard someone yell SNAKE and lots of commotion. The rider in front of me could see the snake and stopped. Everyone but us had either run over the snake or narrowly missed it. We followed the dazed rattler out of the pipe where he slithered up the embankment and into the bushes. I bet he was wondering what happened!

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    Chula Vista CA, Otay Lakes

    Around the upper lake today, coming off Proctor Valley rd, after the short climb up to the trail that leads around the upper lake to the lower lake. He wasn't there when I went down but about five minutes later on my way up right at the top BAM there he was.

    Found a branch gave him a gently nudge, he gave me a little rattle and off he went into the bushes.
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    THAT IS A BIG SNAKE BRO!!!!! Jan 29th...... wow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CEB View Post
    THAT IS A BIG SNAKE BRO!!!!! Jan 29th...... wow!

    Saw a big as one at Lake Hodges sunning himself. He took up the whole width of the trail, and would not move.

    Had to turn around a go a different way. Must be the warm Santa Ana conditions we have had lately.

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    It's been several years now, but I recall a January where the temps hit the 80s & 90s in Los Angeles for a few weeks and the buzzers came out. The poor things must have been all confused. The following week, the temps dropped sharply, the rains started, and Winter began. I assume that the sudden weather swing led to alot of snake deaths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CEB View Post
    THAT IS A BIG SNAKE BRO!!!!! Jan 29th...... wow!
    Looks bigger in the pics was only about 2 half feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CEB View Post
    THAT IS A BIG SNAKE BRO!!!!! Jan 29th...... wow!
    I saw this one at the top of sycamore today....stretched out almost the entire length of the trail. Probably 3 feet or so, maybe a little longer. I rode past it and it didn't even budge.

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    If you don't like snakes, then I do not recommend that you ride Andersen Truck Trail in Alpine. The biggest rattlesnake I've ever seen was laying across the trail. Absolutely huge snake (I'd guess close to 7 feet).

    I wish I had a picture of it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjphillips View Post
    If you don't like snakes, then I do not recommend that you ride Andersen Truck Trail in Alpine. The biggest rattlesnake I've ever seen was laying across the trail. Absolutely huge snake (I'd guess close to 7 feet).

    I wish I had a picture of it...
    Yeah concidering there's not a rattlesnake species in California that grows to 7'. Are you sure you weren't in the Florida Everglades and spotted a Python.
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    Oak Leaf Rattler

    I've hit oak leaf rattlers several times riding at Boggs. Mostly when there are fallen oak leafs to get stuck in my fork.

    That noise just gets my attention, rattler or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Yeah concidering there's not a rattlesnake species in California that grows to 7'. Are you sure you weren't in the Florida Everglades and spotted a Python.
    I grew up in east county so I've seen my fair share of snakes and that one in Alpine was not a typical rattle snake. I don't think it was quite 7 feet, but it was definitely bigger than the average.

    I've also seen desert tortoise, horned lizards, deer and bobcats out there. But no mountain lions. I know they are out there, but I have yet to see one.

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    I saw a bobcat a couple of weeks ago on the south side trail
    at PQ near the waterfall. I use to see bobcats all the time in the
    old days, but not much these days. In my 50+ years of being
    outdoors I have yet to see a mountain lion in the wild. I would
    love to see one though.

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    A mountain lion chased a big buck across the trail right in front of us coming down Noble one morning. It was huge. Night rides have never been the same for me since.
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    The reptiles are coming out of hiding, boys!

    A friend texted a picture of a rattler on a trail in Griffith Park. I saw two Alligator Lizards on my afternoon ride in Sully today.

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    I'm going to start packin' Xanax on my rides thanks to this thread . . . .
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    Haven't seen one yet this "season," but the rabbits were out in force at Cheseboro last weekend, so the rattlers can't be far behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    Haven't seen one yet this "season," but the rabbits were out in force at Cheseboro last weekend, so the rattlers can't be far behind.
    Careful of those rabbits man . . . some of em' have FANGS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    Haven't seen one yet this "season," but the rabbits were out in force at Cheseboro last weekend, so the rattlers can't be far behind.
    That place has more rabbits per capita than anywhere else on Earth!

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    Saw one at ATT today on the road out. Spooked me as I wasn't expecting to see one out there this early in the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    That place has more rabbits per capita than anywhere else on Earth!
    Yeah, seriously! They pop out of the bushes right in front of me every time. I'm brushing up on my rabbit stew recipes for the spring.

    I think the warm weather is throwing everything out of whack.

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    Both Sycamore Canyon
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    Just ran over an adolescent rattler(2 foot plus) about an hour ago, barreling down a 2-track off-camber in the light/shadow looked like one of many sticks. Went back and could see the dirt where I hit, thought I broke him but he he slithered away just fine. First on ever and couldn't get the camera out in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duzitall View Post
    A mountain lion chased a big buck across the trail right in front of us coming down Noble one morning. It was huge. Night rides have never been the same for me since.
    Did you see the Mountain Lion? Or just the Deer.
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    Almost tagged this one

    Tapia Canyon, the lower portion of the Junkyard trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duzitall View Post
    A mountain lion chased a big buck across the trail right in front of us coming down Noble one morning. It was huge. Night rides have never been the same for me since.
    Did you see the Mountain Lion? Or just the Deer.
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    I saw a rattler last week but didn't hit it.

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    I saw three snakes out at el prieto the other day, two rattlers and one of something else.

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    Saw a rattler just south of the Black Mountain Road Park staging area on the Lusardi Creek loop last weekend.

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    Scary moment

    2 years ago I came around a corner and saw a huge rattler coiled up sunning itself on the single track (PQ). I locked up my front brake and flew over the bars nearly landing on top of it.

    I thought that for sure I would be struck by it...no doubt.

    I did the ol' stop, drop and roll thing you learn in elementary school. Actually the stop/drop happened by default

    Very scary moment

    I stood up to check myself for bites and noticed that it had changed from a coiled position to fairly stretched out in my direction.

    Not sure if it tried to strike me, but it sure appeared that way...

    Also, at Mission Trails a few years back, a friend of mine (who was riding about 30 yards back) had one strike at him and go into his spokes. Yikes! He screamed like a little girl

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    Quote Originally Posted by av8trinabarrel View Post
    I had a moment of pure stupidity at spring canyon earlier today. Like most of the other posts, I came around a blind corner at a medium pace and saw a meaty one crawling across the traill about 10' in front. After trying to hammer the foot break on my 450x and grabbing the clutch I realized as I was going over the bars that I was NOT riding my X!!! As I sailed over the bars, I somehow clicked out mid flight and landed on my feet about 5 feet away. My niner goes bouncing right over this guy and off into the bushes. HOLY F'n crap... I damn near had a heart attack thinking how stupid I was grabbing levers in a panic and picking the wrong one. Never done anything so stupid, but lesson learned......there is no clutch on a mtn bike
    Funny... we had similar incidents. Both lucky..

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    Quite a long time ago, I was riding at PQ for the weekly morning ride I used to do with Cindy Whitehead, back when she was the Ross Bicycles rep. Zipping along the South-side fireroad, on the downside of a little roller, she ran over a two-footer or so, who immediately coiled up and tried to strike at me. Needless to say we were going pretty fast (was she ever slow?) and I bunny hopped and don't know if it hit anything on my bike or not. Had quite a few run-ins with Rattler's over the years when I lived in So. Cal - most were incidental and a few were funny and a couple were scary as hell. Now, up North, I hardly ever see any. I think maybe a half dozen in the 14+ years I have been here... It's their home too - just a little respect on our part, and with a little luck nobody will get run-over or bitten!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    Also, do not try to hike or bike out of the area you are in unless you can keep your heart rate extremely low and you have no other choice. Better to let the medics come get you. Best thing is to stay calm and keep the heart rate low to avoid pumping the venom around the body too much.

    As for the comment about keeping ones bike in control to avoid the snakes, bike control is not going to save you from a snake in the trail. I came around a blind corner on a tight single track in Calavera Preserve about a month ago and barely stopped in time to avoid running over what was a dead rattle snake sprawled across the trail. I was going about 4mph at the time because the trail was so tight.

    My buddies found another dead rattler a week later in a different part of the preserve. No idea what is killing them, but I have yet to see a live one.

    On another note we did see a Ring Necked Coral Snake, it was gorgeous, never seen one before, and I just missed running him over cause he was so small, probably only 9-10 inches.
    Yes, to the original question. I was riding at Calavera going pretty fast on a downhill section that v's out in a creek bed, rider ahead of me screamed but I kept going. Rider behind me shouts "dude you just ran over a big rattler." We did not go back to see how he was doing.

    On the dead rattlers at Calavera, there is an older guy out there who trail runs regularly who told me he killed the dying rattler I saw a few hundred yard behind us when I ran into him. He used a rock and a stick but did not finish the job though I'm sure it died. There also is a venom collector who stalks rattlers mostly by the K-rail. I don't think he kills them but I would not be surprised if he had to once in a while to save his skin. He uses a metal rod with a fork-like snake holder to hold them down while he pumps venom from their fangs. What a weird way to make money.

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    I was flying down Rockit and I jumped one!

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    Ran over a small one, 16", at Daley yesterday. It was stretched out and in a small rut and I didn't see it until I was almost right on top of it. I need to work on my split second bunny hop skills.
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    Not yet, thank heavens.

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    Ran over another one today. This time at Hodges. Went back and it was cruising off the trail. I did stop in time two weeks ago and today before the gopher snake.

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    I saw two at Daley Ranch yesterday. Stopped about 2-3 feet short of running both over.

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    I've seen more than i'd like lately, probably 6 in the past week or so. The North county SD trails seem to have more this year than i remember in the past...

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    On the news tonight they said a guy got bit by
    a baby rattler in his house in PQ.

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    I came close to running over one in Irvine last week. It was right in front of me, but since I was climbing, It was able to slither away before I got to it. I've seen, and heard, plenty more after that. It is definitely snake season.

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    I nearly stepped on a baby rattler 2 days ago while out for a run down big rock. It didn't even had its rattle grown in yet. Stepping on one is a lot worse than riding over one!

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    Hide your pets, hide your ankles


    out on sullivan canyon last week.

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    Baby rattler about a mile from the top of La Tuna 9 April. It will probably be too cold for them tomorrow.

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