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    @klurejr -- the claimed size of the snake shown in that email has been debunked on Snopes, but that snake is truly huge nonetheless. I forget the exact size as it's been a while since I read the Snopes article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canaan
    @klurejr -- the claimed size of the snake shown in that email has been debunked on Snopes, but that snake is truly huge nonetheless. I forget the exact size as it's been a while since I read the Snopes article.
    I should of known better, gonna check out the snopes article now.



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    The snake is just over 7 feet long, not 15, but heck that is still a monster.
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    @klurejr -- for sure; that's about 5' longer than any rattlesnake I'd want to run into on the trail. He's probably as big around as a grapefruit.

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    Luge Snake Pron

    Friend came across these two sexing it up on the Luge about a week ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtroy
    Now Randy...you serious?

    Better that we learn quick bunny-hop panic moves.
    That's still riding in control, Mike. What are you, up to 5 rattlesnakes already this month, and it's not even the 15th of April?

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    That's two male red diamond backs fighting for breeding rights.... somewhere a female is near by.

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    Yesterday at GMR/Monroe Truck trail in Gelndora.

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    Wow, you guys re lucky that first one that was coiled did not strike either of you.

    I ran into a coiled up 4-5 footer on the way back to the parking lot out at Daley Ranch (cougar pass entrance) yesterday afternoon, it was close to 5:30pm and he was coiled in the grass off the side of the trail, I was climbing so I heard him before I saw him, but it still freaked me out.
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    All this talk of rattlesnakes has me nervous, especially with all the tall grass coming right up to the edge of the trails. I had a close call with a pissed-off Southern Pacific a few weeks ago down in Sweetwater, and I ran over an itty-bitty baby red in Oak Canyon last week, but that's it.

    I was climbing CR-1 in Spring last night and came upon a huge alligator lizard. Before I got a good look at him I thought he was a rattlesnake, he was that thick.

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    This worries me I'm not gonna lie... There shouldn't be any snakes in spring right? They only come out in the summer? Forgive my ignorance, I just hate snakes lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teemberland
    This worries me I'm not gonna lie... There shouldn't be any snakes in spring right? They only come out in the summer? Forgive my ignorance, I just hate snakes lol
    Ha ha HAHAHA haha haa (deep an cruel laughter).....

    .... dude.... summer (when the earth warms up enough to tell the snakes it's dinner time out there) starts in San Diego somewhere around March 29 (one week after equinox).

    Snakes are part of the environment. The only thing they have on you is POISON and SURPRISE. You can't fight the poison, but you sure can mitigate the surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CEB
    Ha ha HAHAHA haha haa (deep an cruel laughter).....

    .... dude.... summer (when the earth warms up enough to tell the snakes it's dinner time out there) starts in San Diego somewhere around March 29 (one week after equinox).

    Snakes are part of the environment. The only thing they have on you is POISON and SURPRISE. You can't fight the poison, but you sure can mitigate the surprise.
    Ah ****! Lol!

    That said, did anybody see any snakes in Otay Lakes?

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    God forbid if you do get, do you ride out or stay put and try to explain to 911 where the heck your at. Half the time I'm not even sure of the name of the trail I'm on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanminded
    God forbid if you do get, do you ride out or stay put and try to explain to 911 where the heck your at. Half the time I'm not even sure of the name of the trail I'm on.

    Stay Put unless it is life or death that you need to move.

    If you are alone and have no cell signal to call 911 and no one is on the trail to help, then perhaps you should move slowly keeping your heart rate down until you get cell signal. Too much heart rate will move the venom quicker in your body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr
    Stay Put unless it is life or death that you need to move.

    If you are alone and have no cell signal to call 911 and no one is on the trail to help, then perhaps you should move slowly keeping your heart rate down until you get cell signal. Too much heart rate will move the venom quicker in your body.
    I was taught differently, but who knows who is right. I just moved here to SoCal. The guy made sense to me. I said to just immobilize that area and maybe fashion a sort of loose tourniquet. Heart rate doesn't really mean much. If the snake was lucky enough to inject all the venom into a vein, that would probably be near instant death. More than likely, its in the muscle and working that body part attracts more blood, which would pick up the venom. That and blood pressure maybe, so stay calm, relax the bitten area, call 911, get to a more accessible spot. The sooner you get treatment, the better the chances. He also mentioned that snake-bite kits are ineffective and sucking it out/suction is also ineffective and 911 and the hospital is the way to go.

    IE. if my left leg got bitten, I'd just ride my bike, mostly coasting with weight on my right foot and use my right leg to pedal if necessary, with my left hanging/resting, and get to the trailhead. If I were with a buddy and we were parked at the trailhead, I'd probably have 'em drive me to the hospital if it didn't take long to get there. Dunno why kind of treatment they can do on an ambulance, but if they have anti-venom on it, I probably would wait for that instead.

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    Snake phobia makes me roadbiking

    Yeah, I am really having a hard time daring going for a mtb ride during snake season here in San Diego.
    I rode for 4 years in the Santa Monica Mountains: only saw one huge black coiled rattler. I literally rode maybe a foot next to him, only to hear that scary rattling sound, uncliped and ...survived..
    Saw a few in the in the San Gabriels.
    Spend 3 years in in Palm Spring and saw none, zero, nada (rode a few times/week in the goat trails).
    Now, I am in San Diego and where I ride (Daley Ranch), from March to Sept-October, I can say I see at least one rattler every ride. I am not kidding, last week, 3 on the same ride...
    In April last year, I basically decided to stop riding my MTB until fall. Now the question is "is road biking any less dangerous than mtbiking in snake country ?"
    And see, it's Sunday PM, I would like to go for a 3hr mtb ride, but instead will go road biking again (already have 10 hr of road in the legs and want to ride my superfly).

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    That 'record size' snake is much closer to the camera than that dude in the background (old fisherman's trick ).

    The reports I have seen are that it was 9'1", which is still HUGE.
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    Was searching in the weeds next to a trail for a shovel (to do some trail work) that a friend had stashed on Wednesday evening. I was standing in one spot and gave him a call on the cell to try to pinpoint the location of the shovel. Just as he answered the phone, I took two steps and turned around to see a small/mediu, sized rattler coiled up just a couple inches from where I had just been standing. He never made a sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabe
    Yeah, I am really having a hard time daring going for a mtb ride during snake season here in San Diego.
    I rode for 4 years in the Santa Monica Mountains: only saw one huge black coiled rattler. I literally rode maybe a foot next to him, only to hear that scary rattling sound, uncliped and ...survived..
    Saw a few in the in the San Gabriels.
    Spend 3 years in in Palm Spring and saw none, zero, nada (rode a few times/week in the goat trails).
    Now, I am in San Diego and where I ride (Daley Ranch), from March to Sept-October, I can say I see at least one rattler every ride. I am not kidding, last week, 3 on the same ride...
    In April last year, I basically decided to stop riding my MTB until fall. Now the question is "is road biking any less dangerous than mtbiking in snake country ?"
    And see, it's Sunday PM, I would like to go for a 3hr mtb ride, but instead will go road biking again (already have 10 hr of road in the legs and want to ride my superfly).
    I believe most snake bites occur to drunk young men who 'play' with them. I do, this time of year, stay on the trail when I dismount. I always look where I put my feet. The snakes I've seen are always bee-lining off the trail or giving the rattle warning. Not very aggressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teebird
    I believe most snake bites occur to drunk young men who 'play' with them. I do, this time of year, stay on the trail when I dismount. I always look where I put my feet. The snakes I've seen are always bee-lining off the trail or giving the rattle warning. Not very aggressive.
    99% of the snakes I've seen are laid back / chill. All it takes is one with an attitude to wreck your day though.

    I've ridden by one that I never even saw but it was rattling and hissing like a cobra from the side of the trail; who knows maybe it had just been run over by a biker a few minutes before I went by. Also heard a report of a big old diamondback at San Diego Sycamore slithering right down the middle of the trail directly toward guys on bikes - so don't necessarily count on them ALWAYS being non-aggressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teebird
    Friend came across these two sexing it up on the Luge about a week ago.
    INCREDIBLE SHOT!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teebird
    I believe most snake bites occur to drunk young men who 'play' with them. I do, this time of year, stay on the trail when I dismount. I always look where I put my feet. The snakes I've seen are always bee-lining off the trail or giving the rattle warning. Not very aggressive.
    Are you saying that drunk young men do not make good snake charmers? What about drunk middle aged men? I capture and hold the rattlers I come across on the trail and I haven't been bitten yet???
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamicz
    Yesterday at GMR/Monroe Truck trail in Gelndora.

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    I've seen "buzzers" on that ride also. How's the water situation down at the start of the trail? Has the roaring river subsided yet???
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    Saw a smaller one dead and missing the front half of his body out in Calavera yesterday, so now that is three different dead rattlers I have seen in that area over the past month. I have yet to see a live on in Calavera.
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    Anyone here ever been bit or been on a ride where someone got bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbell
    Anyone here ever been bit or been on a ride where someone got bit?
    Question's been asked. Read the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whodaphuck
    Question's been asked. Read the thread.

    Thanks for your direct response and coaching how I should manage my time.

    You actually brought quite a bit of distraction to my ride today as I laughed over and over at your silly command for me to be a better reader. It helped me get past the burn on the uphills.

    Next time, instead of being a dbag, maybe try to give a suggestion or even point out something that someone might have missed.

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    Cool, glad I could help. Next time you're too lazy to read the whole thread just shoot me a pm and I'll get you up to speed again.

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    Yes. 3 times. We have lots of snakes in the desert southwest. We even had a snake pit in one of the ranches my family owned until 3-4 years ago when it was sold. The pit was basically a canyon but no one ever went down there. You could throw a rock down there to tick them off. The noise made by the startled snakes was impressively loud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teemberland
    Ah ****! Lol!

    That said, did anybody see any snakes in Otay Lakes?
    Saw a rattler today laying on the trail around the upper Otay Lake, scared the heck out me. Then i had to pass it again on the way back was still in roughly same place .
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    Saw 2 San Diego Gopher snakes on my ride in Chesebro today. My Sister-in-law just called and said that there is a snake in her front yard, oh no!
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    A snake without a head is something you don't see every ride. El Morro Ridge.




    What happened? It had been writhing in the trail for some time based on its prints. The injury included a long flap of skin hanging. My guess is a run in with a hawk or other predator. But why leave the meat? The track is could be mine, but pretty sure I swung more left. I turned around after whipping by. Now that I think more about it, the snake was not small so the track looks more like a motorcycle. Weird.

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    I rode up on a rattler on thusday and another on friday at Sycamore Canyon/Riverside. The biggest one was as thick as my forearm! Both in the mini moab area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra8d
    Saw a rattler today laying on the trail around the upper Otay Lake, scared the heck out me. Then i had to pass it again on the way back was still in roughly same place .
    Thank god your safe man, I usually ride around Lower Otay Lakes anyways. BUT, now I'm hesitating now if I should continue. If I ever ride again around Otay Lakes, I'll make sure I have someone ride with me. I usually ride by myself.

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    I saw a small one bite my front tire.

    I saw a small one bite my front tire. The snake was blocking a narrow trail (La Tuna Canyon single track). I came to a stop to before I reached it, threw some little rocks at it but it wouldn't get out of the way. Then I stood behind my bike and bumped it with the front tire a few times. Finally it bit my front tire, rattled and slithered away.

    It didn't rattle until after striking. The bite didn't puncture my tire. The snake was only about 12-18 inches long.

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    rode through sycamore canyon last weekend and didnt see any, now I'm nervous man, I hate snakes! Luckily they make me levetate for several feet due to the intense pucker factor. Geeze, now I just want to stick to the road...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the
    rode through sycamore canyon last weekend and didnt see any, now I'm nervous man, I hate snakes! Luckily they make me levetate for several feet due to the intense pucker factor. Geeze, now I just want to stick to the road...
    YEAH, but on the road you could get hit by a mustang, pinto, falcon, impala, bobcat, ram, jaguar, beetle, rabbit, fox or cougar (maybe not so bad).

    99.9% (I'm not absolutely sure) of the snakes in SoCal are not fast enough to pursue you on a bike, but quick enough to bite your nose if you try to give them a kiss

    Thus the best policy is to ride on the dirt and do NOT attempt to kiss any snakes, no matter how tempting it may be

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    Came across a good sized Southern Pacific the other day in the chino hills state park. I was riding west on telegraph canyon and i was coming up on what I thought was a tree branch... until it instantly coiled up when I got within 2' of it. The snake was about 30" long and rattled something deep and scary sounding.

    This was my first venomous snake encounter and it rattled me for about 500ft. I said to myself... "**** everything about that". luckily I was alone and the snake was ready to strike for nothing.

    I think my co pay on emergency room visits is ridiculous .

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    Almost ran over one in Simpson Park (Hemet) about 4 days ago. Came around a corner on a flat section going slow to medium speed and it was half on the trail and half in the bushes. I'm bummed that my initial reaction was to stop instead of pedal my ass off to get by it. Before I was even stopped (instantly as I saw it) it coiled and started rattling. I've seen lots of rattlesnakes growing up in SoCal and riding bikes and motorcycles in the desert etc. and this was far and away the loudest mofo I have ever heard. I got up on a rock aobut 6-8 feet above it and took a shot of it. It was off the trail about a foot coiled ready to bite the **** out of me. You can see it in the center of the shot. I couldn't get the video to work of how loud it was so that is just a photo of the screenshot to give you an idea of where it was in relationship to the trail. Its coiled in the bush with the white buds on it on the right side of the trail. Also, have seen one in Aliso Woods at the start of the trail down from the water tower, one in peters canyon, and one on the san juan trail, all within the last 2 months. And I accidentally ran over a rosy boa on the same ride in simpson that I saw the rattler.
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    I came upon a snake at Sycamore Canyon, Riverside as well. I noticed it when I rode by it, giving it a little extra room; I looked back and noticed my riding buddy stopped. I turned my bike around and found him picking it up and moving it off the trail.

    Like some others have pointed out, I'll take my chances riding by since I know I ride faster and my exposed flesh are rather high above the ground. More of a chance of the snake getting hurt than me.
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    yes. last month at noble canyon. in the rocky lower part. ran over the first one.

    screamed like a girl and pedaled away like crazy. the next one 15 yards later must of heard my frightened cry as it was going off the trail as i rode by like wiley coyote.

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    I did Saturday at Spring Canyon -- fortunately he had a rat half-way down his throat at the time, so he couldn't bite me. Rolled over him at about 4 mph about half-way up 3 Barrels. Couldn't make him out until my front wheel was about 1 foot away and by then it was too late to stop. Most scared I've ever been of a snake.

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    Funny when I read this thread. I was riding today at El Morro and came down a steep hill and then turned to a flat trail, a baby rattle snake is lying on the right side of the trail and perfectly blended into the ground. I stopped right in front of him and my front tire is literally right next to his head. I looked at him and took off right next to him. He looks very calm and I am so lucky that he didnít bit me as my right foot just right next to his head.. I think I didnít look ahead as a beginner rider which I should.. I am proud that I didnít panic.

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    Rode Granite Bay, Ca trails (starting point, middle trail) saw a rattler , didn't really notice it, it was spread out just chilling in the shade, but didn't run it over.
    Went back 2 days later, different part of the trail , saw another one spread out and I just bunny hopped over it since it was spread out over the entire singletrack and I wasn't trying to fall next to it. (both sides was either a tree or bushes)
    Ever since I saw the first one, I pay more attention to my surroundings (I already do, just a lot more) the last thing I want to do is hurt or kill wildlife, regardless if it's a squirrel or snake, it's really their land where they live, we just ride on it

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    Yup, I ran into one today at PQ around 5:30PM. The only advice I could give is to look far ahead so you have time to react to any situation you may come across on the trail.
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    I ride PQ a lot and have seen more snakes this year
    than all the other years put together. I wonder if all the
    rain we got this year may have something to do with it?

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    looking at the size of all of these snakes, 3 to 5 feet, if you put your legs up on top of your bike frame, I dont possibly see how one could strike high enough to bite a body part?

    even id you roll right by it and not over it?

    snakes strike downwards or forwards, so to bite a body part up that high, it would need to get its head at least 36 inches above ground before the strike? which could never happen even on a 5 foot snake?

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    Does bunny hopping one count?

    Was coming down a singletrack section of Gabriellino between Red Box and Switzer a few years before the station fire and saw a down tube size branch laying across the trail. Except it wasn't a branch, it was a fat rattle snake. By the time I realized what it was, there was no time to stop... so I bunny hopped it. The snake didn't even wake up until my buddy got there. I yelled at him to stop 'cause there was a snake. So he stopped and started throwing pebbles and twigs at it, which totally pissed it off. Started rattling and slithered off the trail.

    Don't try this at home. Rattle snakes eat bunnies so if you try to execute a bunny hop, the snake could mistake you for food and it may try and eat you. I'm just saying.

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    This rattlesnake snuck to the benches on top of Snow Summit Big Bear at the Viewhaus:



    Kind of scary knowing how many people were next to it, including children, and didn't really notice it. This one was really well camouflaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teebird View Post
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    BALLS OF STEAL! i grew up on a farm and rattlers are the only thing i can think of besides skunks that will make me run away like a 14 year old school girl from R.kelly

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    I had a moment of pure stupidity at spring canyon earlier today. Like most of the other posts, I came around a blind corner at a medium pace and saw a meaty one crawling across the traill about 10' in front. After trying to hammer the foot break on my 450x and grabbing the clutch I realized as I was going over the bars that I was NOT riding my X!!! As I sailed over the bars, I somehow clicked out mid flight and landed on my feet about 5 feet away. My niner goes bouncing right over this guy and off into the bushes. HOLY F'n crap... I damn near had a heart attack thinking how stupid I was grabbing levers in a panic and picking the wrong one. Never done anything so stupid, but lesson learned......there is no clutch on a mtn bike

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