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    Vision Quest?

    So, has anyone heard any information on the VQ? How will they pull it off if no support can get in? Thoughts?
    You wouldn't be in so much pain if you didn't ride like a dork!

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    Good question...

    I haven't seen anything yet either...I'm trying to figure out how I am going to pull it off without much time/opportunity to train!

    If any info comes across my way I'll be sure to post it...

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    The latest on the Vision Quest.....

    This is directly from the Warrior Society's mass email:

    1. VISION QUEST AND COUNTING COUP EVENT UPDATE - WHAT ABOUT THE RAIN?

    We've received a few emails from participants asking us the status of the
    event; will it take place on Saturday, March 5th.

    Postponing the event will depend on two things:

    1. There are no slides, deep mud, washouts, trail failures, high creeks or
    deep snow that present a danger to our participants and prevent support from
    aiding our participants.

    2. Number #1 requirement has been met and no rain is predicted the day of
    the event.

    The long-term weather forecast is calling for the rain to stop this
    Wednesday with no rain leading up to the event, except for a slight chance
    of rain on Wednesday of next week. We will be monitoring the weather
    forecast and will determine early next week whether or not to proceed.

    As far as conditions, both the Trabuco Trail and lower Holy Jim are in great
    shape, we brushed them and repaired the erosion damage. Club members Jeroen
    Bosboom and Mike Caffrey were out GPS'ing the Trabuco Trail for helicopter
    evac locations on Sunday and reported that our repairs and preventative
    measures have done their job; the trail is in good shape.

    None of the current slides or washouts will have any effect on the event. We
    will be rerouting you down Upper Holy Jim to avoid the slides located about
    3/4 of a mile down the back side of the peak. Upper Holy Jim is a very
    technical trail and we had hoped to do some improvements on it prior to the
    event but the weather so far has not cooperated.

    Warrior's Society Trails Director Keith Eckstein, along with Blue Jay Area
    Trails Manager Larry Braham and Trabuco Area Trails Manager Ken Rands, are
    working with the Forest Service to complete the work on Upper Holy Jim prior
    to the event (once the rain stops and it's safe to drive our tools and grade
    stabilizers up there via the Main Divide). The Forest Service will be giving
    us keys to allow vehicle access and we hope to go up there next Monday to
    work on the trail. If this work is not completed, we will suggest you walk
    parts of this trail.

    The Silverado Motorway is in the same shape as last year. There are two
    points in the trail that are narrow, and a place down at the bottom where a
    side canyon has deposited rocks on the trail, but we don't expect you to
    have any more difficulty going down it than last year. We will have support
    personnel or yellow tape in advance of these locations to warn you to slow
    down.

    Expect Blackstar Canyon Road to be the only place where mud may be an issue
    so we suggest you carry oil and a brush to clean your chain once you leave
    the canyon bottom.

    We will be evaluating the course this weekend and will let you know of any
    concerns that come up. It is important that you read all emails that we send
    to you leading up to the event so you are kept informed on the status of the
    course and the event. You can also call our info line at (714) 894-8211 or
    check our info board at for the latest news:

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    Vision Quest And Counting Coup Event Update - What About The Rain?

    1. VISION QUEST AND COUNTING COUP EVENT UPDATE - WHAT ABOUT THE RAIN?

    We've received a few emails from participants asking us the status of the
    event; will it take place on Saturday, March 5th.

    Postponing the event will depend on two things:

    1. There are no slides, deep mud, washouts, trail failures, high creeks or
    deep snow that present a danger to our participants and prevent support from
    aiding our participants.

    2. Number #1 requirement has been met and no rain is predicted the day of
    the event.

    The long-term weather forecast is calling for the rain to stop this
    Wednesday with no rain leading up to the event, except for a slight chance
    of rain on Wednesday of next week. We will be monitoring the weather
    forecast and will determine early next week whether or not to proceed.

    As far as conditions, both the Trabuco Trail and lower Holy Jim are in great
    shape, we brushed them and repaired the erosion damage. Club members Jeroen
    Bosboom and Mike Caffrey were out GPS'ing the Trabuco Trail for helicopter
    evac locations on Sunday and reported that our repairs and preventative
    measures have done their job; the trail is in good shape.

    None of the current slides or washouts will have any effect on the event. We
    will be rerouting you down Upper Holy Jim to avoid the slides located about
    3/4 of a mile down the back side of the peak. Upper Holy Jim is a very
    technical trail and we had hoped to do some improvements on it prior to the
    event but the weather so far has not cooperated.

    Warrior's Society Trails Director Keith Eckstein, along with Blue Jay Area
    Trails Manager Larry Braham and Trabuco Area Trails Manager Ken Rands, are
    working with the Forest Service to complete the work on Upper Holy Jim prior
    to the event (once the rain stops and it's safe to drive our tools and grade
    stabilizers up there via the Main Divide). The Forest Service will be giving
    us keys to allow vehicle access and we hope to go up there next Monday to
    work on the trail. If this work is not completed, we will suggest you walk
    parts of this trail.

    The Silverado Motorway is in the same shape as last year. There are two
    points in the trail that are narrow, and a place down at the bottom where a
    side canyon has deposited rocks on the trail, but we don't expect you to
    have any more difficulty going down it than last year. We will have support
    personnel or yellow tape in advance of these locations to warn you to slow
    down.

    Expect Blackstar Canyon Road to be the only place where mud may be an issue
    so we suggest you carry oil and a brush to clean your chain once you leave
    the canyon bottom.

    We will be evaluating the course this weekend and will let you know of any
    concerns that come up. It is important that you read all emails that we send
    to you leading up to the event so you are kept informed on the status of the
    course and the event. You can also call our info line at (714) 894-8211 or
    check our info board at for the latest news:

    http://www.warriorssociety.net/voices.mv

    If you are at all concerned about making the cutoff times we encourage you
    to consider taking advantage of the 1 hour early start time of 5:00 a.m. We
    are waiving the early start fee and all those that paid the $10.00 fee will
    get a refund at the Pow Wow. Please email us at:

    countingcoup@warriorssociety.org

    if you want to take advantage of this offer.

    Per the event release, we no longer give refunds since the time to get
    refunds (two weeks prior to the event date), has past. We will offer to sell
    your spot to anyone on the waiting list. All those currently on the waiting
    list have filled spots that have opened up.

    If we are forced to postpone to Saturday, March 12th or Saturday, March
    19th, no refunds will be given if you cannot make the backup date(s).

    We will offer to sell your position to any one who can make the backup
    date(s) if the event is postponed.

    If you want to participate in the Counting Coup or Vision Quest but did not
    get your app in we encourage you to sign up on our waiting list. Many people
    have not requested to be put on the waiting list because they don't expect a
    position to open up but that has not been the case so far. We expect to have
    positions open up either due to injury or participants not being able to
    make the backup dates.

    If we don't sell your position then you'll get a free entry into the Toad
    Festival on Saturday, May 21st. To view information on the Toad Festival go
    to our homepage:

    www.warriorssociety.org

    and click on the "2005 Toad Festival" link under our "Events" heading.

    We apologize for this "no refund" rule, but we have thousands of dollars of
    up front costs that have already been spent. Being a trail advocacy and
    maintenance organization that is dependant on our event entry fees to
    continue to protect your access and maintain your trails this rule protects
    us from losing funds from too many late cancellations.

    Thank you for your support and for understanding that Nature sometimes has a
    mind of its own; all we can do I adapt.
    You wouldn't be in so much pain if you didn't ride like a dork!

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    Wow, we posted at the same time!!!

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    What are the odds.....
    You wouldn't be in so much pain if you didn't ride like a dork!

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    Thanks for posting the info...

    I called the WS and they mentioned there would be an email forthcoming.

    Looks like riding an SS will be an advantage in this scenario:

    Quote Originally Posted by CPATCRASH
    Expect Blackstar Canyon Road to be the only place where mud may be an issue
    so we suggest you carry oil and a brush to clean your chain once you leave
    the canyon bottom.

    Good luck to everyone participating.

    D

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    I rode Blackstar to the motorway today. All in all it's in pretty good shape. There are some mud puddles that you can ride around on the first half, and some pretty good size ruts on the main divide after Beeks, but definetly rideable. Did the whole loop in 3hours 50 minutes, so I'm starting to consider that early start time. Just a little concerned with the lighting at 5am with no lights....oh well should be fun anyway.

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    Thanks Tink. See you there.

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    Hydration Question

    I cracked a couple of ribs riding 10 days ago but am still planning on riding the Counting Coup. I'd rather not wear a Cammelback for comfort reasons and, since I have never ridden this before, was wondering how many water bottles I should take. 1 in my jersey and 1 or 2 on my bike?

    Thanks,
    Geoff

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