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    Vision Quest

    Who's riding the VQ or CC this weekend? I'm volunteeringand riding sweep to the first aid station and I'm wondering if I'll be struggling to keep up with the back of the pack. Any of you think you'll have trouble with the first cutoff time? I rode the Blackstar/Motorway loop in a little over 3 hours, but I know that most of you racing at the Pow Wow have been training, so am I gonna be too slow? Anyways, see you there bright and early Saturday. I'll be the half-asleep guy on an all black 1x1.
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    I'm doing the VQ. Last year I rode singlespeed and made the first cutoff maybe 5-10 minutes shy of 3 hours. I was by no means the last person there. So if you're riding it in close to 3 hours you should be fine. Besides, as a sweeper, dontcha want to come in behind everyone else rather than with or ahead of them?

    This year I expect to be on my SC Bullit. Although it has gears, it weighs approx 40 lbs. I'm interested to see whether my cutoff times and finishing times are better or worse.

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    I'll be back there with you! I'm not worried about the first cut off. It's the next two!
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    'fiend: "Besides, as a sweeper, dontcha want to come in behind everyone else rather than with or ahead of them?"

    Yeah, I want to be in the back, but I don't want to be too far behind last place
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    bcak of the pack here as well. plate number 424 in the CC. definitely doing it on a singlespeed, but not sure if it'll be the 29er titus or the 29er sofa king. the latter has a ebb that has been creaking like an old ship.

    we did the toads fest ride yesterday and while a little chilly, the ride went rather well. numb fingers on some of the downs (w/ full finger gloves) was rather interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitmang1
    Who's riding the VQ or CC this weekend? I'm volunteeringand riding sweep to the first aid station and I'm wondering if I'll be struggling to keep up with the back of the pack. Any of you think you'll have trouble with the first cutoff time? I rode the Blackstar/Motorway loop in a little over 3 hours, but I know that most of you racing at the Pow Wow have been training, so am I gonna be too slow? Anyways, see you there bright and early Saturday. I'll be the half-asleep guy on an all black 1x1.
    i'm doing it also, its a one time thing for me, already regretting it! i'm sure i'll be slow. it will be a heal day

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    ... and if we just ... Everybody be sure and say hi as you go by....

    I'll be working the bottom of Upper Holy Jim (when you come down to Main divide, you turn right to get to Lower Holy Jim). I'll also be doing sweep down to Holy Jim parking lot as well.

    Good luck to everybody and please be careful!!!!

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    The 12:05 cut off at AS # 2 at the bottow of Holy Him is challenging. If we get rain Tuesday it could really slow things down a bit on Black Star. Let's hope for good weather Saturday and plenty of time to dry out if it rains this week.

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    the killer cut-off is 1230 at horsethief!

    if its 1200 and you are at holy jim, you have no chance to make it up trabucco when you are tired. i'm sure that the champs can do it in 20 minutes, but it takes me 40-45 minutes when i'm tired.


    when i saw the 7 hour cutoff for VQ, i opted to try to improve my pathetic CC time.

    good luck to everyone, and thanks to the volunteers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSSer
    bcak of the pack here as well. plate number 424 in the CC. definitely doing it on a singlespeed, but not sure if it'll be the 29er titus or the 29er sofa king. the latter has a ebb that has been creaking like an old ship.

    we did the toads fest ride yesterday and while a little chilly, the ride went rather well. numb fingers on some of the downs (w/ full finger gloves) was rather interesting.
    Hey E....
    I'll be right there with ya! I've only ridden about 3-4 times in the past 4+ weeks, so I'm just looking to make the cutoffs.

    BTW - You gotta take the Sofa King....it needs to attend this event, especially with the new boinger on the front!

    See you Saturday....

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    Pitmang,

    If you are riding sweep to the first aid station I'm here to tell you that you can go ahead and sleep in that morning as I will be on the trail. Last year it took me 4 hours just to get to the top of the Motorway. I hereby give you permission to pass me by, especially if you find that you are having difficulty keeping your bike upright due to the slow pace. (In my first race the 2 sweeps actually crashed into eachother on the uphill. Apparently they had never perfected their crawling skills. What's really pitiful is that I won that race)

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    It looks like I'll be in good company, if I can keep up with you all. My training for the CC was interupted in December and January due to a bad illness. I just hope to beat the cut off times and finish. At worst, I'll have a great day of riding, at best, I'll finish. I'm ready for a finish, but I'll be slow.

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    Hubby and I are doing Counting Coup also. We've made both the bottom of Motorway and the 4 corners cut-offs just doing rides in the past few months. Haven't tried starting at 5:30 in the morning, though Just hoping to make the cut off's again and finish!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burdman
    Hey E....
    I'll be right there with ya! I've only ridden about 3-4 times in the past 4+ weeks, so I'm just looking to make the cutoffs.

    BTW - You gotta take the Sofa King....it needs to attend this event, especially with the new boinger on the front!

    See you Saturday....

    scottay!

    the "make it or break it" ride for that bike is tomorrow- if she creaks, she's staying home.

    see ya saturday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSSer
    scottay!

    the "make it or break it" ride for that bike is tomorrow- if she creaks, she's staying home.

    see ya saturday!
    Ethan, I'll be working the bottom of Upper Holy Jim. I'll have a camera and will keep an eye out for him. Us old timers have to stick together!

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    is that snow on the main divide i see out of my window?

    i wonder if blackstar is going to dry by saturday, or be a mucky mess again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtber3737
    Ethan, I'll be working the bottom of Upper Holy Jim. I'll have a camera and will keep an eye out for him. Us old timers have to stick together!

    OMR

    will stop and say hi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aword4you
    Hubby and I are doing Counting Coup also. We've made both the bottom of Motorway and the 4 corners cut-offs just doing rides in the past few months. Haven't tried starting at 5:30 in the morning, though Just hoping to make the cut off's again and finish!
    good luck you two! I've done it once and checked it off my list

    this year I'll be in San Jose at the Handmade bike show, sipping coffee in my fleece. But hey, enjoy that start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    good luck you two! I've done it once and checked it off my list

    this year I'll be in San Jose at the Handmade bike show, sipping coffee in my fleece. But hey, enjoy that start

    Jeff
    haha! I'll be thinking of you looking at pretty Ti welds as I suffer Enjoy the show!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood
    good luck you two! I've done it once and checked it off my list

    this year I'll be in San Jose at the Handmade bike show, sipping coffee in my fleece. But hey, enjoy that start

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    Jeff, while pushing my bike up each hill....I'll think of you...(dude...how FAT am I in that pic?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Jeff, while pushing my bike up each hill....I'll think of you...(dude...how FAT am I in that pic?)
    Good luck Padre, hopefully Blackstar isn't a mud grovel. maybe I'll see you, A buddy and I might do the San Juan/Bell ridge/Trabuco/Pinos loop. He tried to get into the Vision Quest last minute but couldn't so this might be our substitute.
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    my goal is to not push my bike at all. the only spot i can think of that might be an issue is the loose climb after 4 corners...

    i should be ok as long as i don't cramp up. last pre-run we did, near the top of maple springs both quads cramped up and then the hammys went too! had to walk it off for a little bit.

    finished up the prep work on the wife's bike last night, still have to go through my bike. hoping to have enough time to get that done tomorrow night...

    ::EDIT:: only doing CC, if i were doing VQ i would definitely be pushing up a few spots on lower trabuco and most of WHT

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    Sounds like I won't be the only one pushing my bike. At least I have a good excuse for being last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pitmang1
    Sounds like I won't be the only one pushing my bike. At least I have a good excuse for being last.

    I'll race ya for "dead freeking last"

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    (dude...how FAT am I in that pic?)[/SIZE]
    You are a lean-mean-SS-machine now!

    Good luck to all the participants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechmann_mtb
    finished up the prep work on the wife's bike last night, still have to go through my bike. hoping to have enough time to get that done tomorrow night...
    which bike is she riding? good luck to you both & see ya out there!
    can i get some pixie dust w/my gu, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tink bell
    which bike is she riding? good luck to you both & see ya out there!
    My light-weight XC 29er of course! The Dos Niner will be there. I don't think I could make it on my Stumpy, sadly. Make sure you say hi, I may be in a suffer trance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
    Good luck Padre, hopefully Blackstar isn't a mud grovel. maybe I'll see you, A buddy and I might do the San Juan/Bell ridge/Trabuco/Pinos loop. He tried to get into the Vision Quest last minute but couldn't so this might be our substitute.
    I expect Blackstar mud to be minimal this time. *fingers crossed

    I'll need the luck as I'm recovering from the flu. I woke up last Friday morning. Apparently, the virus had ground-and-pounded me all night then choked me out right before I woke up. When I did, I was tapped out. Chills, zero strength, full body aches, throat destroyed...everything but the water works. Then I had to work that night. Slept 10 hours after that and wasn't able to hit the bike again till Monday. I've been doing progessively longer trainer sessions since then. Definately NOT how I planned for my 10 day countdown to go.... *gulp

    My biggest fear is actually riding a geared bike in this event for the first time. I really feel slower on it.

    We'll see.

    If you see Madre when you are atop Trabuco...just wait a bit...I'll be about an hour or so behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    I expect Blackstar mud to be minimal this time. *fingers crossed

    I'll need the luck as I'm recovering from the flu. I woke up last Friday morning. Apparently, the virus had ground-and-pounded me all night then choked me out right before I woke up. When I did, I was tapped out. Chills, zero strength, full body aches, throat destroyed...everything but the water works. Then I had to work that night. Slept 10 hours after that and wasn't able to hit the bike again till Monday. I've been doing progessively longer trainer sessions since then. Definately NOT how I planned for my 10 day countdown to go.... *gulp

    My biggest fear is actually riding a geared bike in this event for the first time. I really feel slower on it.

    We'll see.

    If you see Madre when you are atop Trabuco...just wait a bit...I'll be about an hour or so behind.
    Ya never know, the forced rest may have been a blessing. Keep repeating "gears are good, gears are good" and visualize hauling azz out that friggin wash in the big ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Jeff, while pushing my bike up each hill....I'll think of you...(dude...how FAT am I in that pic?)
    hey thunder thighs -

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSSer
    scottay!

    the "make it or break it" ride for that bike is tomorrow- if she creaks, she's staying home.

    see ya saturday!
    Hey E....

    So...did she creak? Is it Sofa or Titus?

    Does creaking noises apply to your body too,b/c if that's a determining factor, then I should be staying home!

    See you in about 20 hours.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    I expect Blackstar mud to be minimal this time. *fingers crossed

    I'll need the luck as I'm recovering from the flu. I woke up last Friday morning. Apparently, the virus had ground-and-pounded me all night then choked me out right before I woke up. When I did, I was tapped out. Chills, zero strength, full body aches, throat destroyed...everything but the water works. Then I had to work that night. Slept 10 hours after that and wasn't able to hit the bike again till Monday. I've been doing progessively longer trainer sessions since then. Definately NOT how I planned for my 10 day countdown to go.... *gulp

    My biggest fear is actually riding a geared bike in this event for the first time. I really feel slower on it.

    We'll see.

    If you see Madre when you are atop Trabuco...just wait a bit...I'll be about an hour or so behind.
    Padre.....

    GEARS!!!!! Did we lose you back to the other side? OK, if it's the ride I saw you on a few weeks ago coming down Maple, then I get it...nice ride! Plus now you're one less SS'r, that will kick my arse.
    Now, in regards to reasons(excuses) for not doing well....you have a some valid reasons you can throw out on Sunday ....I on the other hand, am still searching for something that will sound good ?

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    wind.

    the only thing worse than riding the main divide in mud is riding during santa ana winds. looks like the winds will be picking up tomorrow. good luck to those competng.

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    last time we were up there in the wind, the only really bad spot was on blackstar. there is one corner where we were blown to a near stop. we were all tucked down behind the bars like speed racers, but we were just creeping along! LOL

    i am looking forward to tomorrow. 2 weeks of no riding before the race should make for an interesting time. hoping fresh legs are what i have, not dead weight!!!

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    I hope some of the wind will be a tail wind on some of the Main Divide climbs, we'll see. It will be just part of the challenge.

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    If it's windy out there......have fun. There's nothing worse than being (anywhere) on Main Divide when it's windy. Waaaaay worse than rain in my opinion.

    And the climb from 4 corners to the peak......with a nice Santa Ana blowing.....lovely.

    All that being said.....the Handmade Bicycle Show should be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biotruth
    is that snow on the main divide i see out of my window?

    i wonder if blackstar is going to dry by saturday, or be a mucky mess again?
    I drove Blackstar yesterday and there's just a few puddles along the path, but all easy to ride around. Just keep spread out on the first flat section of Blackstar so you don't get forced into a mud-hole by another rider.

    Trails should be really nice tomorrow, but the wind might prove to be a factor if it kicks up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey
    If it's windy out there......have fun. There's nothing worse than being (anywhere) on Main Divide when it's windy.
    Yes there is..being on the Main Divide in the wind...riding rigid. THAT is worse.

    At least wind might keep heat down a bit which could be nice on the trail of tears.
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    What are you talking about???

    Quote Originally Posted by Padre
    Yes there is..being on the Main Divide in the wind...riding rigid. THAT is worse.

    At least wind might keep heat down a bit which could be nice on the trail of tears.
    Padre,

    According to Chris, tht wind will be a tail wind! (He was up there on Main Divide today). He said it will blow you right over the top of Saddle back.... he he he he....

    I asked him what he had been smoking???

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    Every one's talking about making the cut off ,but who do think is going to win ? Cameron is riding gears this year and Manni has been training real hard this year . I rode with Cameron on saturday and he's going stronger than ever ,on sunday Manni killed us on Como street ( a group rode ride ) so who do you guys pick?. or is there a dark hourse out there we don't know about

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin949
    Every one's talking about making the cut off ,but who do think is going to win ? Cameron is riding gears this year and Manni has been training real hard this year . I rode with Cameron on saturday and he's going stronger than ever ,on sunday Manni killed us on Como street ( a group rode ride ) so who do you guys pick?. or is there a dark hourse out there we don't know about
    Number 114. That's Pat Burton and I hear he's lightening fast this year!!!.... I only hope he will hold his speed down and not burn through the rubber on his tires... He shared his strategy with us earlier this week... start out slow and back off! Then really crank 10 yards before the finish.

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    PS: My $$$'s on Cameron .. but don't tell Pat.... although the more I think about how fit Mario is these days.... no, I'm going to have to go with Mario...errr, on the other hand when Cameron really tries, he's unbeatable... but Mario's really fast these days..uhhh, oh what the hell... somebody will win!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin949
    Every one's talking about making the cut off ,but who do think is going to win ? Cameron is riding gears this year and Manni has been training real hard this year . I rode with Cameron on saturday and he's going stronger than ever ,on sunday Manni killed us on Como street ( a group rode ride ) so who do you guys pick?. or is there a dark hourse out there we don't know about
    Kevin, I have a buddy Sten who should do pretty well, maybe top 5. If Omara's doing the VQ I'd say he's an outside bet to win it.
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    Well my $$$ in on Cameron , I think hes a true pro with a lot of experiance and can dig deep when he has to ,remember he beat every one on a SS last year . I was at the main divide last year and watched Manni attack Cameron on the santiago peak climb and put a nice gap on him but Cameron dug deep and caught him later passed him and stayed away the rest of the race, pretty impressive, I think it be cool to watch them race again .

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    Good luck to everyone..

    Quote Originally Posted by pitmang1
    Sounds like I won't be the only one pushing my bike. At least I have a good excuse for being last.

    have FUN..

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    Ha ha!

    Quote Originally Posted by mtber3737
    Number 114. That's Pat Burton and I hear he's lightening fast this year!!!.... I only hope he will hold his speed down and not burn through the rubber on his tires... He shared his strategy with us earlier this week... start out slow and back off! Then really crank 10 yards before the finish.

    OMR..


    PS: My $$$'s on Cameron .. but don't tell Pat.... although the more I think about how fit Mario is these days.... no, I'm going to have to go with Mario...errr, on the other hand when Cameron really tries, he's unbeatable... but Mario's really fast these days..uhhh, oh what the hell... somebody will win!
    Aren't you the funny man.... With the wind I'll be lucky to get my car door open...
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    it was windy up there for sure. it was still a beautiful day for a bike ride!

    wind wasn't as bad as the barney that swerved into allison taking her out 100yds from the start though...

    have no fear. that girl is tough. dripping blood the whole way up blackstar and across main divide, she got bandaged up at the 1st aid station. things went really well after that. except the banged up and bandaged girl kicked my butt while my legs cramped up non-stop

    seems that i should have had plenty of vitamins and minerals from supplements... on the bright side we finished and the food served at O'neil was tasty!

    Edit: aside from the scrapes and bruises, the crash also cost allison her favorite frame. tough day for sure.

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    hey j & a! good to see you both finish!

    fun day working the finish line handing out the feathers & seeing everyone's looks of relief as they realized they were finally DONE! congrats to all who finished. it was brutal enough & then you got slammed w/the wind. way to keep crankin!
    can i get some pixie dust w/my gu, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
    Kevin, I have a buddy Sten who should do pretty well, maybe top 5. If Omara's doing the VQ I'd say he's an outside bet to win it.
    well, dr k didn't make top 5 but he was still smiling & must've felt strong coming through the fnisish line! good job!!
    can i get some pixie dust w/my gu, please?

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    Any results and/or photos posted any place yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ERGON
    Any results and/or photos posted any place yet?

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    Winston did a ton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacman
    Winston did a ton.
    Much appreciated! Found what I was looking for!
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    Last edited by ERGON; 03-04-2007 at 09:19 AM.

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    Dos Niner?

    Quote Originally Posted by mechmann_mtb

    Edit: aside from the scrapes and bruises, the crash also cost allison her favorite frame. tough day for sure.
    You mean trashed as in dented tube?

    Speaking of yahoos, one cut me off by the big puddle exactly at the trench (in the dark) so down I went. Some people just have to pass at the narrowest section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacman
    You mean trashed as in dented tube?

    Speaking of yahoos, one cut me off by the big puddle exactly at the trench (in the dark) so down I went. Some people just have to pass at the narrowest section.
    Yup. Dented TT. We started dead last

    We caught up to a group and if I recall, I think I almost went down again in that spot! Someone endo'd right in front of me, I stopped short and just landed on my right foot and went around. It was crazy in the dark!

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    the unofficial results are up on geoladders

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