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    Viper is trashed...

    dozer made a firebreak out of it. the ride to Walker Ranch is good most of the way, then burnt with landslides toward the bottom. Will post pics later. scott

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    Trailhead

    you can see the single track in the distance...
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    more...

    was nice trail....
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    Nike base

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    Looks like new highway construction!

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    lower trail

    near walker ranch
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    trail

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    slides

    no brush to stop the slides
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    We actually rode down

    Pinetos which leads to walker Ranch and nature center. The pics are from the Walker Ranch part, I think nature center is more burned, we didnt go that way. We went up the pavement to the Firehouse #9, not up SanFer. rd.
    The trail is still really rideable, just gotta clear some rocks. Not sure if its actually "open" tho. scott

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    wow

    I guess you made it up there! How was the climb?

    Thanks for the pics - that sucks about Viper. Hopefully some green will be back by spring.


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    Guess I missed it, Viper was one of those trails I never got around to trying, looks like probably be a while untill dirt compacts enough for skinny tires. Good photos though, is the last one taken near the top of Pinetos ? Hope not, really looks trashed.

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    the climb was fun...

    middle chainring all the way. took 1hr 15 mins, over 8 miles from placerita. it got tuff towards the top, kept thinking "its just around this corner". got us thinking about getting road bikes. thanks for the directions!
    the "firemen" were all playing volleyball when we got there. there was a crew working cleanup near the bathroom at the drop-in to Pinetos. it burned the hill directly behind the kiosk/bathroom. check out the dozer lines going straight up the hill, they must be crazy drivers!
    the top of Pinetos is in great shape, as far as the fire goes. just lots of dry leaves on the trail, a few broken branches too. the pics are from half to 3/4 down.
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    men at work

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    I heard USFS were closing access to low laying forest areas

    [QUOTE=scottay]dozer made a firebreak out of it. the ride to Walker Ranch is good most of the way, then burnt with landslides toward the bottom. Will post pics later. scott[/QUOTE

    In LA and san bernandino counties. That could meant hey may follow suit with Cleveland too. Theyve done in the past.

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    So SFR road on he way up is all burnt & soft, correct?

    Until you get just past Viper, then it's not burnt ?

    And the top 1/2 of Los Pinetos is unburned ?...

    Then the last 1/2 is all burnt & loose... and the canyon road ride back to SFR start is black everywhere ?

    .... Bummer ...

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    Lemme see...

    >>So SFR road on he way up is all burnt & soft, correct?<<
    Dunno, didnt go that way. Its all burnt, for sure, would assume ashes and powder 'cuz of the truck traffic.

    >>Until you get just past Viper, then it's not burnt ? <<

    yes, the fire stops at the bathroom/bullitin board/ loading ramp area.

    >>And the top 1/2 of Los Pinetos is unburned ?...<<

    Yes, just dry , dusty, and full of dead leaves.

    >>Then the last 1/2 is all burnt & loose<<

    Alot is burnt, there are rockslides on the path in places. Its still rideable, just be careful.


    >>... and the canyon road ride back to SFR start is black everywhere ?

    .... Bummer <<


    Again, didnt go that way. The fire stayed on one side of the road and then jumped across near Walker Ranch. In this pic you can see the grass of the cemetary to the left, thats near SFR and the 14. To the right you can see green and the frwy, thats placerita. Hope this helps, scott.
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