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    Tire recommendation for Socal condition please

    I'm new to the sport, and I'm running Maxxis CrossMark on stans. My front wheel tends to wash out on turns during down hill.

    What you do recommend for Solcal. I ride mainly around agura hills area.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbr_moron
    I'm new to the sport, and I'm running Maxxis CrossMark on stans. My front wheel tends to wash out on turns during down hill.

    What you do recommend for Solcal. I ride mainly around agura hills area.

    Thanks in advance.
    Maxxis High Rollers work great.
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    Do a search in the So Cal forum. I think there was a decent sized thread with a lot of recommendations recently.. Also, check STR's tire thread! Lots of good info for all conditions and locales.

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    Tires I've had good luck with and use regularly on SoCal dirt...

    MautanoRaptor 2.4 - XC only, not good for aggro riding.
    Kenda Blue Groove - Awesome front tire. Rolls well and corners on rails.
    Kenda Nev - Good rear tire. Rolls slow, brake great.
    Maxxis Larsen TT - Awesome rear tire. Rolls fast and brakes really well.
    Kenda Cortez 2.2 - Great rear tire. Rolls fairly quick and brakes adequately.

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    Maxxis Minion's plain and simple

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    Thanks everyone, I'll give those recommendations a try.

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    let's see......for socal you definitely need some of these on your bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbr_moron
    Scubapro - are you a diver?
    Yup. Where do you dive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmike00
    Maxxis Minion's plain and simple
    I second the minion in the front and a high roller in the rear.

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    Lower the pressure in your front wheel..

    Quote Originally Posted by mtbr_moron
    I'm new to the sport, and I'm running Maxxis CrossMark on stans. My front wheel tends to wash out on turns during down hill.

    What you do recommend for Solcal. I ride mainly around agura hills area.

    Thanks in advance.
    ... Try 25 psi, It'll handle much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SCUBAPRO
    Yup. Where do you dive?
    Mostly boat dives to Catalina. Sometimes oil rig around long beach. What about you?

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    good suggestions posted so far.

    on my superlight:
    2.35 kenda nevegal up front
    2.1 kenda small block 8 in back

    on my dawg:
    2.35 maxxis ignitors front and back

    in the past on my dawg, coiler and heckler i've run:
    2.35 kenda blue groove up front
    2.35 nevegal on the back
    -or-
    2.35 kenda blue groove up front
    2.35 maxxis minion on the back also had a 2.35 high roller on the back i liked as well

    tons of tire combos out there that work well here in so cal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbr_moron
    Mostly boat dives to Catalina. Sometimes oil rig around long beach. What about you?
    Laguna mostly. And on occasion: wreck alley, casino point, & other catalina by boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbr_moron
    I'm new to the sport, and I'm running Maxxis CrossMark on stans. My front wheel tends to wash out on turns during down hill.

    What you do recommend for Solcal. I ride mainly around agura hills area.

    Thanks in advance.
    +1 for maxxis minion DHF in front and high roller in back

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbr_moron
    I'm new to the sport, and I'm running Maxxis CrossMark on stans. My front wheel tends to wash out on turns during down hill.

    What you do recommend for Solcal. I ride mainly around agura hills area.

    Thanks in advance.
    Hey mtbr_moron (I just had to say that once ), since you're new to the sport, your washing out may not be a tire issue. I also ride the Agoura area frequently, so I know the trails you're on.

    Here are a couple of things to consider. Washing out on DH turns can be caused by:
    • Too high tire pressure
    • Not an aggressive enough tire
    • Using the front brake during the turn
    • Not weighting the front wheel during the turn
    • Too fast for the trail conditions


    Depending on your body weight and riding style, you should be running 35-45 psi. I weigh 175 with all my gear on and run 38-40 psi on a 2.0"-2.2" tire, and 30-35 psi on 2.3"-2.5" tires. This can also depend on what bike you're riding. When I ride a rigid fork hardtail, I run bigger tires with lower pressure. If I'm on my full suspension bike hitting rocky, technical DH, I run the pressure a little higher to prevent pinchflats. If you're prone to getting pinchflats, convert your tires to tubeless like Stan's No-Tubes.

    The Crossmark is a decent tire, but probably not the best tire for aggressive trailriding. I'd recommend Kenda Nevegal, Nokian NBX, Specialized Roll X, WTB Motoraptor or Maxxis Highroller for a good SoCal aggressive tire. The Roll X and Motoraptor are the lightest, fastest rolling in the bunch but are also a little less aggressive in the cornering category.

    In case you don't already know, you want to do all of your braking before the turn. A lot of people new to the sport approach a turn too fast and try to scrub speed in the turn. They suddenly find themselves heading off the trail, grab the brakes and washout the front tire.

    Practice coming into the turn a little slower than you think is necessary and stay off the brakes. As soon as you come out of the apex of the turn, put on the gas and pedal out to get back up to speed. Gradually practice coming into the corner a little faster without touching the brakes. Each type of turn (cambered, off-cambered, bermed, hardpack, loose, increasing radius, decreasing radius) requires a different speed and technique. In time, you'll learn to read the conditions before you hit the turn.

    It's easy to hang back on the bike during turns, even downhill turns. The last thing anyone wants to do is auger in while leaning on the front end. However, you should have some of your weight, or pressure, on the handlebars to make sure the tire's contact patch is maximized. You don't need to literally lean forward on the bars. Just bend your elbows more than you think you should, lower your chest, and look into the turn with your head, not just your eyes. That should be enough to allow your front tire to carve through the turn.

    The last point is just something you'll learn. Sometimes a corner just isn't meant for faster speeds. There's a couple of really sandy, washed out corners coming back from Shepherd's Flat in Cheseboro that'll grab anyone's front tire. That's when it's smart to just ease back and enjoy the ride.

    Good luck to you! Maybe I'll see you out on the trails.
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    Upchuck,

    Excellent pointers! I'll try putting more weight up front and look with my head as I go through my turns.

    I'm 185lbs with gear on a Cannondale Jekyll. My riding pressure is 30psi - running Stans. When I first rode my Crossmark. I'd both tires at 55psi. I thought it would be more efficient for climbing - Boy was I wrong.

    Part of my problem has to do with my inexperience. I tend to focus on the ground as I enter a turn rather than to look ahead. Couple weeks back I took Corba's MTB skills class, and I've already noticed improvement. Nonetheless, I'm still not too confident with my Crossmark.

    So! Ive decided to go the a rear Highroller. The front is a toss-up between a Minion DHF or Nevegal. Any thoughts between the DTC or Stick-E compound.? I also heard Nevegal is a pain to setup with Stans and has weak side wall any comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbr_moron
    So! Ive decided to go the a rear Highroller. The front is a toss-up between a Minion DHF or Nevegal. Any thoughts between the DTC or Stick-E compound.? I also heard Nevegal is a pain to setup with Stans and has weak side wall any comments?
    I'm a big fan of all three tires. The Highroller is a great front and rear tire with good traction and decent rolling resistance.

    The Minion is a heavier tire that rolls considerably slower, but hooks up really well. Unless you're really into the downhilling scene, I'd recommend against the Minion. If you do decide to go with it, I'd go with the 2.35" 60a compound. Maxxis tires are pretty easy to setup with Stan's.

    My favorite SoCal tire right now is the Nevegal. I prefer the DTC version over the Stick-E for durability. The Stick-E is great for traction, but it wears out very quickly and is slower than molasses on climbs.

    HOWEVER, Stan's NoTubes strongly recommends you use the UST (tubeless) version. DO NOT use any non-UST Kenda tires with NoTubes. There have been numerous reported incidents of the bead coming off the rim.
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    Based on current fire conditions, get a FAST tire.

    NO horse'n around!

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    And fire retardent!

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    Any tire that has asbestos, or fire retardant will work just fine
    How long you been here?

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    Schwalbe Big Betty 2.35, do a search under Wheels and Tires. Excellent traction for So Cal conditions, from Cosca stuff to the San Gabriels, to pumice on Mammoth Mtn if you shuttle to the top. .
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