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    Snow Summit Bike Park- the process has begun

    If you've ever dealt with the USFS and/or tried to get a project approved on their land, you know it's a long process.

    I've been checking the USFS website quite often to see if the Snow Summit Bike Park has even been programmed for review, as the USFS publishes all the projects under their review and consideration (i.e. approval) on their website. I've been ignoring all the opinion, speculation, and rumor, and instead waiting for this to be officially part of the USFS approval process.

    The re-authorization of mountain bike trails on the Snow Summit property is now in the Scoping Period. This began 2/5/13 and you have 30 days to comment.

    USDA Forest Service - Big Bear Ranger District NEPA Projects - Snow Summit Summer Use Permits

    Click on "Snow SUmmit Summer Use Permits"

    Since everyone is hyped about it, and want this to happen, make your voices heard. Click on the link above, to find out more info and be sure to provide your comments within the 30-day scoping period.

    Note this is the *beginning* of the process.

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    You can not comment via the link. You either have to mail in a comment or send an email. Here is the contact so now it is time to speak up.

    David Kotlarski
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    P.O. Box 290, 41397 North Shore Dr. Hwy 38, Fawnskin, CA, 92333
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    I sent him an email and he replied back.

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    E-mail sent. Also here is a recent article from mtbparks.com posted requesting that we send more e-mails to Mr. Kotlarski. Let's do this guys!

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    Big Bear, CA – There's still much speculation (and debate) about why Snow Summit abruptly ended their relationship with the downhill biking community back in 2005. Whether it was a lawsuit initiated by an injured rider, the devastating loss of Women's Pro Downhiller Haruko Fujinaka during a 2004 pre-race practice run, or numerous insurance, liability, cost and/or forest service hurdles, it has taken quite some time for Big Bear Lake and Snow Summit Mountain Resort to reconsider returning mountain bike riding to the inbounds resort area.

    Over the past few years, Snow Summit has slowly been shifting their strict regulation of excatly what kind of mountain bike is allowed on their lift, and allowing lift access for freeriders & downhillers to reach forest service trails (outside the park boundaries). This year, however, it appears that momentum is really starting to move in the right direction for the resort and riders, as plans for the "re-authorization of mountain bike trails on the Snow Summit property is now in the scoping period." We have yet to confirm whether Snow Summit will ultimately develop downhill specific trails, but this certainly is a giant step in the right direction.

    If you're reading this article, we're pretty sure you think that this needs to happen. Only a week remains to comment on this proposed action. Take a minute and shoot a quick email to the contact listed below and share your support!

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    The Forest Service values public input. Comments received, including respondents’ names and addresses, will become part of the public record for this proposed action. Comments submitted anonymously will be accepted and considered; however, anonymous comments will not provide the agency with the ability to provide you with project updates. The Forest Service wishes to provide you with as many opportunities as possible to learn about our activities.

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    Proposed Bike Park at Snow Summit in the Works - Your Support is Needed!

    On a related note. I e-mailed snow summit directly last week and they emailed back stating this.

    "We have some big surprises coming, but you'll have to check back closer to
    summer for details and more information. Keep in touch!

    We appreciate your email,

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    Gravity Logic has confirmed they are working with Snow Summit. Just send them a message on facebook and they will get back to you.

    Can't wait for summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slimphatty View Post
    Gravity Logic has confirmed they are working with Snow Summit. Just send them a message on facebook and they will get back to you.

    Can't wait for summer.
    Definitely gonna renew my mid week pass this year.

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    I used to ride here in another lifetime and probably wouldn't ride within the confines of the park even if they do open it back up but I sent an email showing my full support!!

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    Looks like the ski season is closed but the lifts won't fire up until 5/25 for those not wanting to pedal the entire time. Surprised it is that long of a gap before they open up to bikers. I haven't heard another word on progress but did get an email from David thanking me for my input. Hopefully everyone else chimed in.

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    New sentence on snow summits site:

    So Cal’s only lift served Bike Park is coming to Snow Summit this summer! We have teamed up with Gravity Logic and will be having all new trails for mountain bikes with no restrictions other then the 45 lbs. weight limit.

    i think its now official.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwyooaj View Post
    New sentence on snow summits site:

    So Cal’s only lift served Bike Park is coming to Snow Summit this summer! We have teamed up with Gravity Logic and will be having all new trails for mountain bikes with no restrictions other then the 45 lbs. weight limit.

    i think its now official.
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    Since season passes are no longer valid for mountainbiking and the daily summer rate was just raised to $32- does anyone know if there is a mountainbike season pass available? I couldn't find anything about it on the Summit webpage.

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    WOW, I am really excited about this. It has been so long since I have done a day trip up to Summit for MTB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Mama View Post
    Since season passes are no longer valid for mountainbiking and the daily summer rate was just raised to $32- does anyone know if there is a mountainbike season pass available? I couldn't find anything about it on the Summit webpage.

    I saw this:

    *Ride the Sky Chair Free with your 2012-13 Dual Mountain winter season pass only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greater Than Gravity View Post
    Website info contradicts itself. I'm sure it will be updated soon.

    SEASON PASSES DUAL: MTN PASS 2013-2014 E PASS MID PLUS ADULT SS
    "Good at Snow Summit or Bear Mtn. Valid SUNDAY THRU FRIDAY NON-HOLIDAY during the 2013-2014 Winter Season. Holiday Dates: Nov 28-30, Dec 21-Jan 4, Jan 18-19, and Feb 15-16. Includes Sky Chair Only during the 2013 Summer Season when open (not valid for Mountain Biking). "

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    Yeah, with a dual mtn season pass you can ride the sky chair up but you can't bring a bike like you used to be able to.

    From the FAQ:

    Is my Season Pass good during the summer?

    2013/2014 Dual Mountain season passes are valid for scenic rides only on the Snow Summit Scenic Sky Chair this summer (not valid for mountain biking).

    EDIT: Got a response to my email:

    Thanks for the email. We do offer a separate summer mountain bike season pass. The price is $299 for adults however if you are a winter season pass holder for the 2013/14 season then you are entitled to a 50% off discounts bring the price down to $150. We are planning on opening May 25th and are looking forward to an exciting season of mountain biking, zip lining and golfing. We are also partnering with Gravity Logic to build bigger and better trails so that is another perk we’ve got going for us.
    Nice that they offer the pass but too bad it is $100 more than the Mammoth pass. You have to go 10 times to break even, if you buy the Mammoth pass in April you break even after just 4 days. If it was $199 I'd buy one for sure but no guarantee I'll get 10 full days in while the lifts are operaing so it's not worth the gamble for me. At least they are working on improving the place.
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    wow, $300.00.... that is a bit steep. I am hoping to get 2-3 days up there this summer, not sure I will have time for more. Maybe if I lived in Big Bear or at the base of the mountain.
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    That's awfullt expensive for a park that hasn't had a single man made obsticle in the last 10 years. If they want to charge that much they better fire up a fleet of bobcats and make some *****in' trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Mama View Post
    Yeah, with a dual mtn season pass you can ride the sky chair up but you can't bring a bike like you used to be able to.

    From the FAQ:

    Is my Season Pass good during the summer?

    2013/2014 Dual Mountain season passes are valid for scenic rides only on the Snow Summit Scenic Sky Chair this summer (not valid for mountain biking).

    EDIT: Got a response to my email:



    Nice that they offer the pass but too bad it is $100 more than the Mammoth pass. You have to go 10 times to break even, if you buy the Mammoth pass in April you break even after just 4 days. If it was $199 I'd buy one for sure but no guarantee I'll get 10 full days in while the lifts are operaing so it's not worth the gamble for me. At least they are working on improving the place.
    Not entirely true. If you don't get the early bird pass at Mammoth ($199), in May it goes up to $269. I will agree that $300 is a bit much but let's see what runs they provide before we judge. I'm sure their logic is it will take you 2X the gas to get to Mammoth but the trails need to be comparable to use gas as an argument. Let's just hope!!!



    BTW, I just noticed something that still is concerning. Look at this carefully and note the 45lb limit. Most DH bikes are this and then some! This thought process is flawed. If I take a 150lb rider and stick him with a 50lb bike, how is it any different than a 180lb rider and a 20lb bike?? This erosion theory that this is based on is nothing more than a sham to keep the DH bikes out of the park. Got to admit, I am disappointed after readin this. I thought this was going to be put behind us.

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    So Cal’s only lift served Bike Park is coming to Snow Summit this summer! We have teamed up with Gravity Logic and will be having all new trails for mountain bikes with no restrictions other than the 45 lb weight limit
    For novice and Cross-Country riders, the Bristlecone Trail east of the base area, and Towne Trail to the west, offer gentle, rolling terrain that is a perfect introduction to mountain biking. Intermediate riders will find terrain that is slightly more challenging from the top of the Scenic Sky Chair including Skyline Drive, which rolls across the top of the ridge with great views of Big Bear Lake. A short, steep single-track climb takes you to Grandview Point, which is a great spot to take a break and is the starting point of a thrilling ride to Towne Trail and back to Snow Summit. This nine-mile loop is one of the most popular bike trails in the area. Those who are looking for more time in the saddle can stay on Skyline Drive all the way to the Champion Lodgepole Pine then circle back to the resort making an adventurous 16 miler.

    When visiting Snow Summit, we request adhering to the following specs:

    Bikes must be less than 45 lbs.•In an effort to keep the National Forest open for all of us; please ride responsibly and use the existing trails. Riders caught using our forest irresponsibly will lose their chair lift privileges.

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    I qualified my statement about the price by saying "if you buy the Mammoth pass in April " - so it is entirely true

    I was told that the 45lb limit is an OSHA type safety requirement for the workers lifting the bikes, not an erosion thing. Last year a good percentage of the bikes were full on DH rigs and no one was weighing bikes. Unless your bike is way over 45 pounds I wouldn't worry too much about it.

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    The lift boys told me it was erosion. On the checklist of things allowed in the past, it was less than 6" of travel, 2.5" tire max and I think 42lbs. The lifties grumbled a couple times when lifting the bikes and one actually stuck it on the scale, 47 lbs. He said finish the day but don't bring it back. If it is an OSHA thing, how does Mammoth or Whistler get around it. Bottom line is the owners of Summit still have a nasty taste in their mouth over the lawsuit years ago and have generalized that if you have a DH bike, you are a risk to them. Just my opinion. The only thing Summit has going for them is it a day trip location today. If there are going to be more trails than what the US Forestry has to offer, then that is a step in the right direction. Last year we didn't even go to Summit as it isn't a lot of fun on a DH bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbell View Post
    That's awfullt expensive for a park that hasn't had a single man made obsticle in the last 10 years. If they want to charge that much they better fire up a fleet of bobcats and make some *****in' trails.
    I heard they are having some top notch trail builders coming in this spring to make the trails. I am sure many of the old Single Tracks from when the bike park was open before are still sorta recognizable and just need to be freshened up.

    Quote Originally Posted by ragged edge racing View Post
    If it is an OSHA thing, how does Mammoth or Whistler get around it.
    At Mammoth they do not lift bikes over their heads, so perhaps the OSHA rules are different. I have never been to Whistler so I cannot comment on how it is done there.

    As to the 45lb rule, I guess we will have to wait and see how things go. If enough money is showing up at the mountain this summer they might consider looking the other way.

    just out of curiosity, how many of you guys with DH rigs have bikes that are over 45lbs? If so by how much? I would imagine there has to be a threshold some where along the line where bikes just won't get any heavier than a certain weight.
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    Gravity Logic is the name of the design group organizing the new bike park. As of yesterday, they were up there marking trails to build. Good stuf!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragged edge racing View Post
    The lift boys told me it was erosion. On the checklist of things allowed in the past, it was less than 6" of travel, 2.5" tire max and I think 42lbs. The lifties grumbled a couple times when lifting the bikes and one actually stuck it on the scale, 47 lbs. He said finish the day but don't bring it back. If it is an OSHA thing, how does Mammoth or Whistler get around it. Bottom line is the owners of Summit still have a nasty taste in their mouth over the lawsuit years ago and have generalized that if you have a DH bike, you are a risk to them. Just my opinion. The only thing Summit has going for them is it a day trip location today. If there are going to be more trails than what the US Forestry has to offer, then that is a step in the right direction. Last year we didn't even go to Summit as it isn't a lot of fun on a DH bike.
    Imho, shared by several other dhrs, summit is hella fun on a dh bike. Rode it last year with some of the dvo guys and they had the same opinion. Agree $299 is a lot for a pass but its cheaper than shuttling 5 weekends in a row, plus no odd man out and extra wear and tear on the shuttle vehicle. Collectively, So cal has some good Dh trails, but it wont take much for summit to create a better dh experience.

    If it's proven people are willing to pay the money, I expect that snow summit will commit more to it just as they did for snowboarding all those years ago. Given a few years, we could end up with a resort that dethrones mammoth as the premier bike park for california. Thinking happy thoughts and hoping it doesn't get screwed up along the way.

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    Talked to someone at Snow Summit yesterday briefly. They have built at least one new trail, I'm assuming that the existing trails and fire roads will be availible to ride. They are working with the same builders who built Whistler as well as many other bike parks. My source said that its not going to all happen overnight and said it would be a work in progress...I kinda knew that.
    He didnt give me a opening date. I will post as I gather more info, Im friends with Pat, who is the man behind this project, just have'nt seen him in a while to get the full scoop.
    Hope this helps, but come up anyway, weather been awesome and trails are in good shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragged edge racing View Post
    BTW, I just noticed something that still is concerning. Look at this carefully and note the 45lb limit. Most DH bikes are this and then some!
    What are you smoking that's brought you back to 2004?
    Most DH bikes, off the shelf, are right around 40-42lbs these days...
    Also, Snow Summit is damn fun on a DH bike, even when you're limited to those few trails that are actually DH. Was it Mammoth, no, but still fun and worth the few hour drive for a day trip versus the mini-vacation Mammoth is. If they even built two more park style trails that mountain would rule and would get my business regularly.
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    Re: Snow Summit Bike Park- the process has begun

    Yeah, baby Email and letter sent.
    Thanks for the heads up.

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    The Snow Summit Scenic Sky Chair is scheduled to open weekends only beginning May 25th and daily beginning June 15th.

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    Getting a little giddy!

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    The only DH bikes that would be effected by the 45lb limit are old-school DH bikes, so it comes down to what you can afford and not the DH capability of the bike. I'll bet the lifties look the other way, because enforcing the rule would simply be discrimination against budget riders.
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    If your planning to buy a pass, I was informed by summit, because they are starting off small and will be building up throughout the summer, that pass prices are going to be $250 not $299 as originally stated by summit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1000-oaks View Post
    The only DH bikes that would be effected by the 45lb limit are old-school DH bikes, so it comes down to what you can afford and not the DH capability of the bike. I'll bet the lifties look the other way, because enforcing the rule would simply be discrimination against budget riders.
    Well, I believe their scales must be tilted or Rocky Mountain was liberal in their information. We have 2011 Flatlines so not old school. Their scales read 47 lbs so take that for what it is worth. Here was the info off their site.

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    Trail looks fun!


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    Looks like a freeway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini2k05 View Post
    Looks like a freeway
    It's all personal preference. I know people who love twilight zone at mammoth and others that hate it. Same with A Line at whistler. Not gonna please everyone.

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    A freeway is fine as long as there are a lot of cool jump/drop/stepup type features. I didn't see many there, hopefully there are.

    Quote Originally Posted by monstertiki View Post
    It's all personal preference. I know people who love twilight zone at mammoth and others that hate it. Same with A Line at whistler. Not gonna please everyone.

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    How long was the video, maybe showed 10 seconds of riding on about 100 feet of the trail, yet some think it's a "freeway" and another doesn't see much features. Maybe I'm missing something or some people are jumping the gun.

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    Re: Snow Summit Bike Park- the process has begun

    The only resemblance to a freeway will come on May 25th when that trail looks like the 405 during rush hour. But I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. Beggars can't be choosers. Definitely a huge step in the right direction. And I can't wait for more to come.

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    What about a tandem MTB like my Ventana, it weighs 45lbs but I can imagine getting flak when they hang it and try to take it off!

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    Regardless if it looks like a freeway or not, as a former Big Bear Lake resident, I'm all for
    this park, no matter if if its not Mammoth or Whistler specs. Apart from sketchy winters
    and media convergeance in pursuit of a crazed murderer, the town needs $$$.

    Also I think the place really welcomes the park-type of riders because:

    1) they never cook anything so restaurants will benefit
    2) they have a tendency to forget spare parts so local shops will benefit
    3) many of them drink beer after rides, so liquor stores, markets and bars will benefit
    4) large group ride outtings that last 2 days will help local motels
    5) most park riders have few bucks burning a hole in their pockets, so local merchants will benfit

    Thanks and God-speed for the park's build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terminator Z View Post
    The only resemblance to a freeway will come on May 25th when that trail looks like the 405 during rush hour.
    Ha ha, I think you hit the nail on the head. I have a feeling unless they build significant mileage of trail before the opening weekend it will be miserable trying to squeeze a city full of out of town riders on 1-2 trails. I'll be waiting till the inevitable sh*t show dies down and more trails are built. I'm skeptical but optimistic!

    If they know what they are doing and invest ample money into this there's no reason this place couldn't be as big as whistler. 1 hour from the biggest market of MTB'ers in the world with a silly long riding season. Easy access to a large international airport, and within driving distance of the best resort in the country.

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    Does anyone know what they're going to do about getting the bikes up the mtn? Are the fitting the lifts with bike trays or is it going to be one bike per hook again?

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    The glimpse of new trail looks fun, hopefully there's a lot more to come. The soil in BB is so loose I'm hoping the jumps and berms can keep their shape without regular watering. Back in the day when DH was legal the trails were really loose and sandy. I remember taking my first run down the trails slow just to see where the deep sand was, it was tough to see and could catch you off guard at speed.

    Quote Originally Posted by mbell View Post
    Does anyone know what they're going to do about getting the bikes up the mtn? Are the fitting the lifts with bike trays or is it going to be one bike per hook again?
    I sure hope they go to the bike trays like Whistler has, it's so much faster and more efficient.

    Got some new big tires and set the fork to 180 on my fun bike. Ready to ride.

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    Good point on the soil in big bear. Hopefully they made a good blend to help with trail erosion. Does anyone know if they're bringing in pavers for berms and jumps?

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    I drove over from the other side of the hill today and rode Hannah and the other trails in the area. Didn't see a soul the whole ride. It was hot and the singletrack was dry and dusty even though we had two inches of rain and snow at the higher elevations less than a week ago.
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    The soil, mostly decomposed granite, is only good for maybe one day after it rains. We tend to get used to the dry, loose conditions and make the best of it, it still beats the heat, humidity and bad air of riding down the hill.
    It's going to be challenging for the crew at Summit to maintain the trails but if they can do it at Mammoth, they should be able to stay on top of it here.

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