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    Santa Monica Mountains trail map(s)?

    I'm visiting LA in a month (from NJ) and I have 2 days of MTB penciled in. I'll be renting from Topanga Creek Bicycles and will likely spend the 2 days riding in that area. I know there's a lot of trail back there so I'd like to get a map that would help me make the most sense of it. Ideally I'd like to keep it to as much single track as possible.

    I've searched around but haven't come up with much in terms of a comprehensive map. I did download a bunch of GPX files from garmin connect and smashed them together which helps, but I still don't know what's what. If there are any good resources to be had please let me know!

    Also if anyone has a good loop or 2 they can share that would also be appreciated. I'll be starting day 1 around noon on a Friday, and I'll have from ~7am until 5 pm or so the following Saturday. Looking forward to seeing some west coast trails!
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    Here you go: Ventura County Trails

    Tons to peruse and print out.

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    Awesome! Thank you
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    No problem. Give me an idea of the type of riding you like to do and I can point you at a couple good bets.

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    XC is my style, a good mix of technical and flowy is always nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlb81 View Post
    XC is my style, a good mix of technical and flowy is always nice.
    Then you will love Backbone up in Encinal Canyon. Circle X Ranch to Decker Canyon Road Area Trail Map and Descriptions

    Cheseboro and Space Mountain would be worth a look for you as well. If you want more technical, Chumash would be fun: Rocky Peak Area in Simi Valley Trail Map and Descriptions

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    Thanks. I suppose I should mention I'll be staying in Manhattan Beach so I was looking more towards the eastern side of the mountains. Though it looks like many of those trails aren't open to bikes. I need to go through that site a bit more and see what will give me the most for my travel time. Hope the bike fits in my rental!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlb81 View Post
    Thanks. I suppose I should mention I'll be staying in Manhattan Beach so I was looking more towards the eastern side of the mountains. Though it looks like many of those trails aren't open to bikes. I need to go through that site a bit more and see what will give me the most for my travel time. Hope the bike fits in my rental!
    I live in Playa de Rey (just north of Manhattan Beach). The closest and best would be the Sullivan Ridge singletrack, known to locals as Upper Jedi. You can ride up Sullivan Ridge or Canyon or even Rustic Canyon and then over on dirt Mulholland to Car Crash or fly back down the ridge.

    This is my nearby go-to. Park over at Bayliss and Queensferry (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bayli...h&z=16&iwloc=A) but please mind the signs and respect the local residents.

    Trail Map and Descriptions for Topanga State Park, Mulholland Gateway Park, Sullivan Canyon & Westridge-Canyonback Park

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    Topanga Creek bikes also goes on groups rides in the santa monicas frequently if you're renting from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    but please mind the signs and respect the local residents
    Of course man! I wouldn't want anyone coming on to "my" turf and being a dick, so I certainly wouldn't so that to a place I visit. Thanks for all of your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    Topanga Creek bikes also goes on groups rides in the santa monicas frequently if you're renting from them.
    I'll check this out, though I'd worry about keeping up with the locals. I'm seeing a few climbs that have the same vertical I ride in a 15mi loop near home
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    The classic trail stuff is located more on the Western end of the Santa Monica Mountain range.

    I would seriously consider doing a bit of driving to reach there if you're gonna drive over to Topanga anyway. It's the only way you're gonna see what So Cal ST is really all about.

    Considerations:
    *Chesebro Canyon
    *Backbone-Kanan Rd (west or east on the trail)
    *Backbone-Park at Encinal Cyn and head West
    *Big Sycamore Canyon

    The Eastern Santa Monicas feature short trail parts with fire road mixed in, not as much fun. The areas I am recommending feature a much higher percentage of ST.

    Whatever you choose, hook up with someone here to guide you through. If I'm around, I'd be happy to show you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    The classic trail stuff is located more on the Western end of the Santa Monica Mountain range.

    I would seriously consider doing a bit of driving to reach there if you're gonna drive over to Topanga anyway. It's the only way you're gonna see what So Cal ST is really all about.

    Considerations:
    *Chesebro Canyon
    *Backbone-Kanan Rd (west or east on the trail)
    *Backbone-Park at Encinal Cyn and head West
    *Big Sycamore Canyon

    The Eastern Santa Monicas feature short trail parts with fire road mixed in, not as much fun. The areas I am recommending feature a much higher percentage of ST.

    Whatever you choose, hook up with someone here to guide you through. If I'm around, I'd be happy to show you.
    This. All of it.

    That Backbone ride from Encinal to wherever (I like going up to Sandstone Peak, the highest point in the Santa Monicas) is probably a good one for you. Longer on distance (25mi round trip), manageable on the vertical (3,600). 20 and 2,500 if you stop at Yerba Buena. https://www.strava.com/rides/41449110

    Sycamore is fun, but a mix of fire road and ST. Guadalasca is one of the more fun technical descents IMHO. Two Foxes and Sin Nombre are fast, flowy singletracks. Here's a good ride: https://www.strava.com/rides/39537201 You can also start at the top of the canyon, but if you don't like to climb, "Black *****" will not be your friend.

    For a shorter ride, up Chumash/down Hummingbird is super fun, but that Chumash climb is kinda tough. That's about 9mi and 2,000ft of climbing. Hummingbird is pretty technical. https://www.strava.com/rides/43660798
    This is not in the Santa Monicas, but is close by.

    If you must stay on the east side, then Jedi is fun, but there's more mileage to be had on these trails just 10-15 min west of there (north in the case of Chumash).

    Feel free to PM with any questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlb81 View Post
    I'd worry about keeping up with the locals. I'm seeing a few climbs that have the same vertical I ride in a 15mi loop near home
    I wouldn't worry too much. The couple times I've seen them they usually have a pretty good mix.

    Just an obligatory word of caution though about LA traffic if you're staying in Manhattan Beach. On Friday afternoons you probably want to avoid driving anywhere near Santa Monica/West LA between 4 to 8pm if you can.
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    Thanks all! I'll be riding Fri 4/12 and Sat 4/13. I'll post closer to that time to see if anyone will be around. I don't think I'll be able to avoid that traffic getting back to the hotel on Fri evening, but oh well. I suppose driving a little further west to get to the good stuff wont be a problem since I'm already flying across the country.
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    You have to try really really hard to have a bad day in the Santa Monicas. It's a great place to ride, for sure. If you're heading back via the 101, be sure to stop at Dan's Subs in West Hills for your post-ride meal. Everything I've ever had there is delicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    That Backbone ride from Encinal to wherever (I like going up to Sandstone Peak, the highest point in the Santa Monicas) is probably a good one for you. Longer on distance (25mi round trip), manageable on the vertical (3,600). 20 and 2,500 if you stop at Yerba Buena. https://www.strava.com/rides/41449110
    This is one of the best bits of singletrack in the area, especially the part just north of Mulholland up to the fire road. Highly recommended and as pointed out, worth the extra 30 minutes of driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    This is one of the best bits of singletrack in the area, especially the part just north of Mulholland up to the fire road. Highly recommended and as pointed out, worth the extra 30 minutes of driving.
    I would also add to do that on your Friday ride, especially if you plan on going up to the peak. It can get a little crowded with hikers from YB to the peak on the weekend, but the ST between Encinal and YB is pretty much clear except for a couple of mtbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    I would also add to do that on your Friday ride, especially if you plan on going up to the peak. It can get a little crowded with hikers from YB to the peak on the weekend, but the ST between Encinal and YB is pretty much clear except for a couple of mtbers.
    True, except for the lower portion near the parking at Rattlesnake. Last time there were some kids hanging out near their pickup hitting rocks at cars with a baseball bat. Seriously. I gave them quite a look as I quickly moved my car away from them.

    EDIT: Just realized I think we were saying the same thing but I was too excited to tell the story about the rock-hitters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlb81 View Post
    I'm seeing a few climbs that have the same vertical I ride in a 15mi loop near home
    I'll be around and will happily show you any of the aforementioned trails. All are good recommendations. And I'm a slo-poke.

    I will be honest though, some of the suggested runs above will be pretty tough for someone without the conditioning for the climbing we have out here. Not that its impossible, but if you get so gassed on the ride that it becomes a slog rather than a ride, thats not really fun. For example, my local ride-from-home loop starts with 7 miles of climbing over 2500' of elevation (Sullivan Ridge). When I first moved from MI (where we measured climbs in FEET), it took me a month to build up the strength/endurance to make the climb.

    Don't worry about keeping up with local riders though. If you ride with any of us, we're pretty low key. I know exactly where we could go that would be a super "climbing friendly" run thats mostly singletrack and would show you some of the most spectacular views SoCal trails have to offer.

    Edit: Just realized that scvkurt03 made the same recommendation, though I've never gone all the way to Sandstone. I usually start at Kanan and ride towards Circle X and turn around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I know exactly where we could go that would be a super "climbing friendly" run thats mostly singletrack and would show you some of the most spectacular views SoCal trails have to offer.
    Where's this? Been looking for a climbing friendly ride for my beginner friends and wife...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    we're pretty low key.
    I dunno man, those pink socks you have are pretty core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Where's this? Been looking for a climbing friendly ride for my beginner friends and wife...
    Backbone trail, parking at Encinal (I think its Encinal) and heading towards Circle X . . . the section with all the switchbacks. Baaaack and forth . . . . baaack and forth. It always amazes me how much elevation you gain with such little effort because its such a subtle grade. IMO, its probably the best beginner trail around because its actual singletrack though not technical and not steep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Backbone trail, parking at Encinal (I think its Encinal) and heading towards Circle X . . . the section with all the switchbacks. Baaaack and forth . . . . baaack and forth. It always amazes me how much elevation you gain with such little effort because its such a subtle grade. IMO, its probably the best beginner trail around because its actual singletrack though not technical and not steep.
    Ahh - yeah, the first section from Encinal to Etz Meloy. Super fun coming down, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Backbone trail, parking at Encinal (I think its Encinal) and heading towards Circle X . . . the section with all the switchbacks. Baaaack and forth . . . . baaack and forth. It always amazes me how much elevation you gain with such little effort because its such a subtle grade. IMO, its probably the best beginner trail around because its actual singletrack though not technical and not steep.
    THIS.

    Also good relatively intermediate trails in Sycamore just a few miles north of Kanan right off of PCH. Only annoying thing is the $12 parking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    THIS.

    Also good relatively intermediate trails in Sycamore just a few miles north of Kanan right off of PCH. Only annoying thing is the $12 parking.
    Plenty of street parking on the beach side of PCH. I've never paid to park in the Sycamore lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    THIS.

    Also good relatively intermediate trails in Sycamore just a few miles north of Kanan right off of PCH. Only annoying thing is the $12 parking.
    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Plenty of street parking on the beach side of PCH. I've never paid to park in the Sycamore lot.
    I have ridden from the beach side once and much prefer starting at Wendy and Portero. Not only is it free to park up there, you get to hit Sin Nombre and Two Foxes right outta the gates, which are quite possibly my two most favorite sections of single-track in the area.

    I'm actually heading there this afternoon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Plenty of street parking on the beach side of PCH. I've never paid to park in the Sycamore lot.
    I've never had the balls to run across PCH. Good on you, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    This. All of it.

    That Backbone ride from Encinal to wherever (I like going up to Sandstone Peak, the highest point in the Santa Monicas) is probably a good one for you. Longer on distance (25mi round trip), manageable on the vertical (3,600). 20 and 2,500 if you stop at Yerba Buena. https://www.strava.com/rides/41449110
    This looks like a good Saturday ride to me. I'd try it on Friday but that might be pushing it time wise (probably wouldn't get to the trailhead until 12 at the earliest). I'll take the crowd penalty vs trying to race daylight if there's a mechanical etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I'll be around and will happily show you any of the aforementioned trails.
    If you're up fore the above ride let's do it. If we're feeling good maybe we can take it all the way to Sandstone.

    I'll see what I can pick out here for a Friday ride. Thanks all!
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    What's the consensus on New Millennium Loop for a Friday afternoon ride?
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    What's the consensus on New Millennium Loop for a Friday afternoon ride?
    It's not a horrible ride, but it's not in my top 20. Not that I have such a list. I've done it once, and I'll probably never do it again - the Santa Monica's have more to offer than that, IMHO. In the same area, I'd go for Cheseboro to China Flats for a good little 13-15 mi out and back, depending on how much you play around in China Flats, or if you want to head up to Simi Peak. Check that VCTrails website you've been looking at for China Flats/Simi Peak info. It might seem a little long for an afternoon ride, but much of the mileage is flat-ish and the sun doesn't set til after 7 these days...
    https://www.strava.com/rides/38157892
    This route has you coming back down Palo Comado, but I wouldn't recommend that. Super boring, wide fire road. Much more fun to come out the way you come in.

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    We usually climb Palo Comado to get the climbing out of the way. Then we loop through China and drop down through Sheep Corral. If we want to get more milage in, we'll climb the ridge then pass through sheep corral, short climb up Palo to do the China loop, and then come back down and out through sheep corral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    We usually climb Palo Comado to get the climbing out of the way. Then we loop through China and drop down through Sheep Corral. If we want to get more milage in, we'll climb the ridge then pass through sheep corral, short climb up Palo to do the China loop, and then come back down and out through sheep corral.
    That's good, too. I'm partial to Cheseboro because it was one of my very first rides, it's pretty, and has a few fun/challenging, short technical features. I remember seeing a dude and his girl climb the last steep rocky section on a tandem on that ride...

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    Yeah, Cheeseboro is great to get a sampling of SoCal riding. Here's the ride up Cheeseboro ridge to China Flats and back down the canyon, probably my favorite variation: Mountain Bike Ride Profile | Orange Chicken near Agoura Hills | Times and Records | Strava

    Going up Palo Comado instead of the ridge is about 4 mi shorter. Its also particularly nice in the afternoons, so it would be perfect late Friday.

    They usually have these at the entrance, but here's a detailed map:
    http://www.nps.gov/samo/planyourvisi...Comado8-09.pdf

    What Friday are you thinking of? Chances are I'll be riding either Cheeseboro or Sycamore Friday 3/29.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlb81 View Post
    If you're up fore the above ride let's do it. If we're feeling good maybe we can take it all the way to Sandstone.
    Happy to do so. 4/13 right? Though note that I don't know my way all the way up to Sandstone. I can get us all the way to Circle X and back though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    Yeah, Cheeseboro is great to get a sampling of SoCal riding. Here's the ride up Cheeseboro ridge to China Flats and back down the canyon, probably my favorite variation: Mountain Bike Ride Profile | Orange Chicken near Agoura Hills | Times and Records | Strava

    What Friday are you thinking of? Chances are I'll be riding either Cheeseboro or Sycamore Friday 3/29.
    This looks good to me, seems like it's 1/2 hour from the shop so it should fit in perfectly. It's Friday 4/12, probabbly about noon by the time I grad the bike and get to the trail head. I'll check back closer to that date.

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    Happy to do so. 4/13 right? Though note that I don't know my way all the way up to Sandstone. I can get us all the way to Circle X and back though.
    Yup 4/13. How easy is it to go adventuring around here? If I get a solid loop (the one linked in this thread looks cut off on the NW section of the ride) I'll have it in my GPS and we could potentially follow it. I'm more inclined to do these things when I'm not riding solo, if you're comfortable with it.


    If anyone visits NJ feel free to send me a msg. We have tons of awesome trails and I'd be glad to show you around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rlb81 View Post
    This looks good to me, seems like it's 1/2 hour from the shop so it should fit in perfectly. It's Friday 4/12, probabbly about noon by the time I grad the bike and get to the trail head. I'll check back closer to that date.



    Yup 4/13. How easy is it to go adventuring around here? If I get a solid loop (the one linked in this thread looks cut off on the NW section of the ride) I'll have it in my GPS and we could potentially follow it. I'm more inclined to do these things when I'm not riding solo, if you're comfortable with it.


    If anyone visits NJ feel free to send me a msg. We have tons of awesome trails and I'd be glad to show you around.
    LOL. As soon as I saw that ride was titled "Orange Chicken" I KNEW it was PerfectZero's . . . chances are, I was on that loop with him. Cheseboro is a fun place to ride, just note that there's a decent amount of climbing involved there. It's not a hard place to ride/explore, but its not hard to get lost either. See if you can arrange someone to go with you. PerfectZero is a Gov't slacker, so he might have the day off. Just bribe him with Panda Express and he'll be good to go
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    hey thats Government Stooge to you buddy!

    I think I was solo that day hence the double china flats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    I think I was solo that day hence the double china flats.
    Well that's kind of insulting! Are you saying that you did a double loop around China Flats because your slow riding buddies weren't there or weren't up to it, as usual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    Well that's kind of insulting! Are you saying that you did a double loop around China Flats because your slow riding buddies weren't there or weren't up to it, as usual?
    Nah, he prolly made a wrong turn along the loop

    I also notice he did not refute the notion that he'll give tours in exchange for Panda Express!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I have ridden from the beach side once and much prefer starting at Wendy and Portero. Not only is it free to park up there, you get to hit Sin Nombre and Two Foxes right outta the gates, which are quite possibly my two most favorite sections of single-track in the area.
    I am heading down Sycamore with a group of friends this weekend and we have a range of riders from very new to very good. I was thinking about having the better riders break off for a little to hit some single track and then meet back up with the beginners. Would the 2 routes you suggested be a good way to take? From that map it looks like Two Foxes meets right back up with the main fire road by Wood Canyon trail.

    If so, is the best way to get to Sin Nobre to take hidden pond trail? Thanks for the recommendations and input!

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    Unfortunately, I'm really really bad with trail names . . . I also don't think that Sycamore is all that great of a beginners area, to be honest. There's a lot of climbing, no matter which way you go.

    When I'm there, the route I take is drop in off Wendy and start off with Sin Nombre/Two Foxes followed by climbing backbone. Cut over to guadalasca and drop down to wood canyon, climb up hell hill (appropriately named!) and then drop back down backbone. Then its out and up the blacktop, back to the bar . . . errr, car.
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    Thanks for the input 007! The only real hard part on the fire road is the 1st mile up/down, other than that it's child's play for any skill level if you stick on the road. That definitely sounds like a good route though when it's just the more experienced riders, I'll have to try it, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pv-Patrick View Post
    If so, is the best way to get to Sin Nobre to take hidden pond trail? Thanks for the recommendations and input!
    I've never taken hidden pond, from the map it looks like its closed to bikes. To hit Sin Nombre I always start at Wendy, drop down into the canyon and make a right and head up Ranch Center a little ways (#3 on the map).

    Nombre basically flows right in to two foxes, which parallels the main fireroad. The better riders in your group could then head up Backbone and hit Guadalasca. I guess the beginners could stay on the fireroad all the way to the beach.
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    Once I looked at google maps I could see more clearly that Ranch Center is a better way to take to his Sin Nombre! Thanks guys, really appreciate it!

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    Here's the Sycamore route that a local beginners group does. It's a nice mix:

    We begin with a ride up the Big Sycamore Trail. At about three miles, turn left on to Wood Canyon and then a quick right turn to Two Foxes for some single track riding. At the junction with the Sin Nombre trail we have two options: option 1, take Sin Nombre to Ranch Center Road; option 2, less experienced riders can turn right for a short distance and turn left;Big the Sycamore Trail; turn left at the paved Ranch Center Road. We regroup at the water tower and after a short break, continue down Ranch Center Road and turn left at Wood Canyon. The best part of this ride is blasting down Wood Canyon and then back to the main fire road and on to the parking lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    Here's the Sycamore route that a local beginners group does. It's a nice mix:

    We begin with a ride up the Big Sycamore Trail. At about three miles, turn left on to Wood Canyon and then a quick right turn to Two Foxes for some single track riding. At the junction with the Sin Nombre trail we have two options: option 1, take Sin Nombre to Ranch Center Road; option 2, less experienced riders can turn right for a short distance and turn left;Big the Sycamore Trail; turn left at the paved Ranch Center Road. We regroup at the water tower and after a short break, continue down Ranch Center Road and turn left at Wood Canyon. The best part of this ride is blasting down Wood Canyon and then back to the main fire road and on to the parking lot.
    I take it that's starting from the beach? We will be starting from Wendy/Petrero

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pv-Patrick View Post
    I take it that's starting from the beach? We will be starting from Wendy/Petrero
    Indeed it is. But if you flip that and start at Ranch Center Road you've got the same general loop.

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    Santa Monica Mountains trail map(s)?

    The reason I don't like to start from The NP side isn't because the blacktop is too steep, it's because it's blacktop. I love my Schwalbe tires on dirt, but steep blacktop climbs eat them up like no other.

    That said, my favorite route from the top is Syc to Ranch Center to Sin Nombre/Two Foxes to Syc to Backbone to the ridge to Guadalasca, up Wood to the water can, down Ranch Center to Syc to the car.

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    If we are talking Sycamore Canyon, lets not forget Wildwood Canyon out in Thousand Oaks though maybe out of range. Expect a long drive from Manhattan Beach especially on weekdays to many of the trails mentioned here. Perhaps look into investigating Orange.

    Here is one route that is one of my favorites in Wildwood Canyon. Its a bunch of single track trails together:

    Wildwood Park Trail Descriptions and Profiles

    Pick up the Santa Rosa Trail from Cal Lutheran parking lot. Ride north from the parking lot towards the giant CLU letters and then just below the letters head west.
    Ride west and you will be rewarded with a great sweeping ridge ride on smooth single track overlooking part of Simi Valley. See if you can spot the guy with his own railroad tracks below on his property. Near the top of Santa Rosa trail you will find great challenges as you climb over steep lava rock beds to a peak and then down switchbacks into Wildwood Canyon. A 29er shines on this stretch. Continue west and take Stage Coach Bluff Trail with more climbing up over lava to a screaming fun descent down Lizard Rock Trail. At the bottom along the creek you can enjoy 3 creek crossings, view of the water fall, and then back out again on Wildwood Canyon trail for a while and then up Indian Creek Trail to Avenue Los Arboles.

    Then ride back on city streets to Cal Lutheran. Total mileage would be about 12 - 14 miles.
    If you really love climbing, you can go back out up a very steep Tipi Road and continue climbing back out the way you came in

    I should mention I haven't done the complete loop as mentioned, but it's a goal of mine. An easier option is to just ride from the parking lot at the west end of Avenue de Los Arboles and then pick up Stage Coach trail. The Santa Rosa Trail is really nice though IMHO.

    Watch out for hikers when descending Lizard Rock Trail on weekends.

    The complete route is not an easy route. A lot of climbing, but the descending stuff is really fun.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teachndad View Post
    If we are talking Sycamore Canyon, lets not forget Wildwood Canyon out in Thousand Oaks though maybe out of range. Expect a long drive from Manhattan Beach especially on weekdays to many of the trails mentioned here. Perhaps look into investigating Orange.
    Thousand Oaks will be out of range, but thanks. What is Orange?

    Is anyone available to ride this Cheeseboro loop this Friday? Probably start ~12:30
    Negative rep, please.

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