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    A question to all Mountain Bikers. I need your help!

    To all that ride a Mountain Bike. I need some help. I have worked very hard with the forest service to allow us local rider to build new trails and install some ladders, obstacles and jumps. It has only been met with a lot of resistance.

    The question is:

    Would you as a Mountain Biker, be willing to pay a Membership to an area that not only had several trails built, but would allow you to build your own trails? Ladders, jumps, drops, shinnies, you name it. Pack it all into an area for all the members to enjoy with a "Club House" for social functions. You could even reserve the place for events if you chose to.
    Would you become a member? $25 a month? $30 a month? $200 a year?
    Please reply and let me know your thoughts. Your reply will help more than you know!

    Thank you,
    James

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    if you form a club and build stuff then you become liable if someone gets hurt
    the trick is ENJOYING YOUR LIFE EACH DAY, don't waste them away wishing for better days

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    Fight Club

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    Sign the insurance waiver.
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    Based on location and trails, I would pay commensurately. Don Jackson at Southridge has been doing it for years.
    nothing witty here...

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    If the location was convenient and the trails were good I'd pay. Tamarancho in Marin has a similar thing although it's only xc stuff but it is very successful.

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    depends on quality of the trails of course, but yea, i would pay..
    if the membership included a "shuttle" service, that would persuade me even more

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    There are discussions going on in my area (Central Coast) about a very similar idea. I know I am ready to go ride and build some trails on private land where the only user conflicts I would have is with cattle. As far as liability goes, there's a local MX track that is a members-only. I can't imagine that it would be feasible without a release of liability that is pretty close to lawyer-proof. So it sounds like there may be a model for this.

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    I get bent out of shape when people want to use and improve forest service property for the purpose of making a profit themselves. Go buy your own land instead of using the peoples land.

    I pretty much feel the same way about fly fishing guides too. It's fine to guide on private waters, but when the idiots start doing unethical things to the rest of us anglers for their clients to earn tip money on public waters, it spoils the fishing experience. Guides, like businesss, are ruthless in their exploitation of public resources.
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    Any local Native American tribes interested?
    Would be a great way to supplement the casino and hotel business as a destination spot.

    I you install a lift, might as well put in a zip line as well.
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    I would pay a monthly or yearly fee if the park were close enough to San Diego so that I could get my money's worth. I would advise having a daily fee as well.

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    I would be willing to pay upto 80/month if the park was local and had shuttleable trails. If there was lift I would pay upto 150/month. If Snow Summit reopened back to it's old park days back before 2004 I would be willing to pay 40/day at that place and that place wasn't even all that good BUT it was local!

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    Same here. If your building something local and its somewhat fun and had lift access I have no problem dishing 30-40 a day.

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    I'd definitely pay. Monthly or yearly fees if it's close. Daily fees if it's out of my area.

    Are there resources behind this or is it just an idea you just came up with?

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    I'd gladly pay for good riding on private property. For good trails and other amenities, a full day of riding would be worth at least $100.
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    ...just picht in to install a lift chair at www.bootlegcanyon.com sick XC and DH dirt jumps and some ladders already there, and is just out side Las Vegas baby, 'year round riding!!

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    yes yes and yes.
    daily, monthly or yearly.
    5 hours to mammoth is too much for every weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTMTBMAN
    To all that ride a Mountain Bike. I need some help. I have worked very hard with the forest service to allow us local rider to build new trails and install some ladders, obstacles and jumps. It has only been met with a lot of resistance.

    The question is:

    Would you as a Mountain Biker, be willing to pay a Membership to an area that not only had several trails built, but would allow you to build your own trails? Ladders, jumps, drops, shinnies, you name it. Pack it all into an area for all the members to enjoy with a "Club House" for social functions. You could even reserve the place for events if you chose to.
    Would you become a member? $25 a month? $30 a month? $200 a year?
    Please reply and let me know your thoughts. Your reply will help more than you know!

    Thank you,
    James
    What i would pay would depend on good or sucky your park was and seeing that there are still free alternatives your park better be good. But...

    Sorry to tell you but its been tried before at Snow Summit and it failed. Like it or not mtn bikers like to sue people and you need deeper pockets or generate more bike related revenue than Snow Summit to be able to defend yourself.

    Here in San Diego as I drive on my way to a ride i always marvel at the hills behind the Indian casinos. Most Indians hate outsiders on their lands but Los Coyotes reservation has a 4x4 area that they charge a fee to use so they maybe they are not totally closed to the idea, especial if they charge us. The Casinos have deep pockets, have land with big big hills, and they like to promote themselves with concerts, why not sponsor a race or even a series.

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    do hikers have to pay to use the forest service, if so then i see it fair. i wouldnt know ive never hiked, i know you have to pay to camp but thats all i know.

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