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    Planning a trip to Whistler this summer

    I need some help, I’m planning a trip to Whistler in the summer, there will be about four people going, we will be flying into Vancouver from San Diego, the first three day’s will be at my brothers loft in Downtown Vancouver to “partake” in whatever Vancouver has to offer and ride, then off to Whistler for four days of riding.

    My first question, should we bring our bikes or rent DH bikes, what are the logistics and cost of bringing a bike on the plane.
    Where is the best place to rent bikes.
    Where is a good place to stay in Whistler (must have a hot tub)
    Should we get a rental Van or use mass transit.
    What trails should we ride in Whistler and Vancouver.
    Should we include squeamish and what trails.
    Should we stay longer then four days in Whistler.
    Anything else you can add or recommend for this trip would be appreciated.

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    I was up there in 2004 and would definitely recommend renting a freeride bike for running on the mountain. Coming from a Socal/Mammoth mountain background, I can assure you that most of the mountain (and the riders) were way above what we have down here. I have a VP-Free (brand new at the time) and I wouldn't want much less of a bike on their lift assisted runs. I also own an Id that I wouldn't be too happy with on the mountain. There were lots of places to rent from, so I'll defer the recommendations to someone who was there recently.

    A-Line will blow your mind and you will run it several times because it is such a blast. First time down you will think you are playing in the freeway, the other riders are so fast! By the end of the second day, you will start thinking about how close to the edge you are getting with your riding.

    My wife and I rented a van, which gives you lots of flexibility. While we didn't need it staying at the park, it allowed us to visit Squamish and some other towns when it was raining. The cost of the van isn't that much more than public transportation for several people.

    You will definitely want an all mountain type bike to ride the local "off the mountain" trails. The VP Free was almost too much bike for the trail rides, but a DH bike would be way too difficult to climb the hills there. The Id would have been perfect for the cross country riding and low speed stunts on trails like "A River Runs Through It". Don't miss these gems, as you simply can't match the beauty of that area down here in Socal.

    I bought one of the plastic boxes from Performance to pack the bike and it cost about $80 to fly with it each way at the time. Watch weight limits, as I packed way too much stuff in the box on the way up. Other companies will deliver the box in advance of your flight, and I will look into one of those the next time. They are a bit cheaper than trying to drag the bike box along with your luggage.

    You could do sufficient damage to yourself in 4 days. Due to the rain on my trip, I got three straight days on the mountain, had two days of rain (over which I was too beat up to ride anyway) and then 1 day on the local trails. Next time I would probably do two days on the mountain and then two days on the local trails. It takes a while to drive from Vancouver to Whistler, so recognize that time will be lost. Like Mammoth, if you ride the lift during the week, there is a hell of a lot less traffic.

    You can tell, I'm already planning my next trip!

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    I am also planning a trip in the summer. I was fortunate to win a Silent Auction so I have 4 passes to the Park and 4 nights hotel. All I need is my flight and transportation. I know there have been many threads on Whistler in the forum all with good suggestions. I also have some friends in the club I ride in who went this past summer. Definately true about the skill level, it is one of the more difficult places to ride. I am looking forward to the adventure. I heard from my friends that renting is the way to go next time as they had problems shipping their bikes.
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    It's allways nice to have you're own bike with you and the cost of renting for one day will cover the cost of flying you're bike one way so it'd be cheaper to bring you're own rig; especially if you pulled it apart and boxed it so you didn't have to pay them.
    When we went we rented a condo in Whisler Village with a full kitchen and a hot tub for similar money to a good hotel, we saved a bunch of money on breakfast and some lunches by cooking them ourselves.
    I liked the trails off the mountain better but then again I'm a lightweight when it comes to jumping and drops.
    We rented a mini van out of the airport which allowed us to go where and when we wanted to which worked out well, and it made returning it easy.

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    Thanks for all the advice, I forgot to ask, what is the best time of year to go, I would like to avoid the major events such as Crankworks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TCB
    Thanks for all the advice, I forgot to ask, what is the best time of year to go, I would like to avoid the major events such as Crankworks.
    I took the family out there in June of this year and it was perfect temps and conditions.
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    I arrived in Whistler on the final day of Crankworx, was great to see the final of the Slopestyle...

    The following few days were busy, but it was really that bad, best thing is to go the top of the gondola and then go to the top and ride down to the mid point then back up etc etc, this worked really weel and there was not too many people. Some say the trails were getting pretty cut up etc, but for me they were still great...

    As mentioned, the drive maybe some 100 kmīs, but it is a slow trip with all the construction in preperation for the winter olympics, so for sure account that.... We drove from Whistler to ride Mt Fromme, that is a big day to drive there then ride loads then drive back, am no soft cock, but the slowness of the traffic can be a biatch....

    I rented a condo, worked out cheaper than a hotel, better for the bike storage, and also being able to have breakfast etc at the condo saves bulk money. It also gave the opportunity for some buddies to crash there as well, so saved money all round...

    I would always bring your own bike. For a good DH bike, you can pay 1 hundy per day, gets you a lift ticket, but sheesh that mounts up if you are there for 5 days.....

    Take some spare brake pads!

    I saw loads of trashed bikes, riding in Whistler on the mountian for a full week is full on, on the body and bike, so a hot tub for sure is the go....

    I rented a pisser car, was cheap and small, was not really much drivign actually doen in Whistler...

    I didnt have the right bike to ride some of the great XC / AM rides around Whistler, whcih sucked really. But next time for sure... So in some wyas, depending on what your medicine is, the other which is not your favorite medicine, I would hire a bike for that....

    I have to say, those of us bike junkies, you have to ride Whistler once in your life... The atmosphere is great, really is...... A week wasnt long enough, didnt realise it when I was there, but after a weeks full on riding, the old body was tired....
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    Some tips for Whistler:

    First off, ride Whistler first, then hit the N Shore on your way back, trust me. The Shore is mostly tech riding, skinnies, etc.. & is easy to get hurt if you are not confident, usually ankles & wrists, as they are slow speed falls. Too many people did the opposite & ended up drinking all week at Whistler instead of riding because if injury. Oh, and ride flats at the Shore, stay far away from clips (Whistler you can rock both)

    For lodging, go to the alludirect.com website & look for something in the village, great deals are to be had & lots to choose from, we rented the below unit for $119.00 a day divided by 4 people (there are 3 beds & a pull-out), it was a 5 minute walk to the lift.
    http://www.alluradirect.com/615/ - DO NOT STORE YOUR BIKES IN THE LOCKERS!! Bring them into the room, even sneak them if you have to (we didn't at our place) Bike theft is rampant, so keep an eye out!

    Bring your own big bike if you have one, rentals are about $100.00 per day for a nice bike.
    Bring extra tires ($80-$100.00 each there) & tubes.
    Bring extra brake pads, you will need them if there over 3 days ($40.00 there)
    Bring any parts particular to your bike, like deraileur hangers, etc.
    Bring an extra rear deraileur, cable & housing.

    I would rent a van so you can get around easier, directions to Whistler are quite easy. Check out Mt. Seymor for some fun trails & easy shuttling, we had a blast there! This site has some great info & trail maps.
    http://www.nsmba.bc.ca/index.php?opt...d=21&Itemid=34

    Personally, if you are in it for the most DH fun, I would recommend at least 3 days at the bike park, it will take you that many days to ride every trail & find you favorites to ride multiple times, warm up on Crank It Up, super fun!!

    I would personally go 1 week after Crankworks (not the following week), as the park staff spends the following week grooming & repairing the trails & most are riding wicked!!

    No matter what, you will have a great time!

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    as inkpad said, whistler then the shore is a good plan. the shore is intense!
    for the shore goto gutsploder.com, killer maps of all 3 mountains. seymore, fromme, cypress are all great. fromme you have to climb. cypress is pretty intense(steep!). the riding up there blows anything down here by a mile. you will find yourself airing it out more since things are built so well. just take it easy on the first easy, everything will still be there on day 2. tons of cheap condos you can rent with jacuzzi, like 160-180 a night that sleeps 4. have fun. oh yea, later in the year is great time to go, like early september. ride on!

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    As mentioned, the construction on the Sea to Sky Highway between Vancouver and Whistler can be brutal. This last summer, on the way back to Vancouver, there was some sort of rock-slide and we were literally parked on the highway for about 3 hours ... that would just be a killer if it was on the way up to Whistler ... so, be advised - traffic up and back from Vancouver can be totally unpredictable and anyone in Vancouver will tell you as much. Can't think of much better scenery though ... being stuck for 3 hours wasn't so bad ... we busted out a grill and some hotdogs and had a picnic right there!

    Enjoy!!

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    Start practicing riding skinnies TCB!

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    I'm getting on the ball too with a trip this summer... my question is travel from Vancouver airport to Whistler. I've rented a car before and it sat there all week, and chances are that would happen again. Are there car, van, bus,etc services available?
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    Tubes?

    I mean, REALLY? - I know you're old and all, but TUBES?

    It was comical at Whistler this year - I remember the first trip I took to BC years ago - 8 days touring the whole province in a (smelly) van - the guides had told Dusty & I that "no way tubeless will work up here, everybody runs tubes" - which we promptly ignored, and rode without flats the whole time (btw, they said the same thing about chainguides, funny enough the e-13's did great)

    so this year, every single day I'd see guys (sans camelback) walking their bike down the hill with a flat, a couple guys I knew I ran into on the mtn with a flat and they begged a tube off of me (I carry one in my pack just-in-case) - flats all around me, people changing tubes off the trail - and me, with my tubeless setup riding the whole week up there (and crashing horribly) no flats

    other than that - all good advice you old tattooed shuttle-monkey ;-)

    although neither you nor DFT gave the guy the best advice - which is stay home - a) because once you ride up there everywhere else just doesn't do it....and b) your odds of coming home broken are awfully high (I say with my apt. with a shoulder specialist ortho tomorrow for scheduling a surgical manipulation of my frozen shoulder - oh Freight Train, you and I have a rematch coming - if I can ever move my shoulder again....)
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    Hey TCB,

    1.) I would bring your own rig. Renting a bike at the park is an option, and something on the Shore is possible as well, but it will cost you. You'll feel more comfortable with your own bike, and it will be cheaper in the long run.

    2.) If you are planning on renting on the Shore, try The Cove Bike shop. They have rentals, and are in close proximity to Mt. Seymour.

    3.) Follow Inkpad's recommendation. You can find plenty of good deals if you book in advance. My first year we stayed at the Tantalus Lodge just outside of Whistler Village. You can also rent per week with some of the big luxury log cabins, which is what we did this past year. Get enough guys, and it works out nicely.

    4.) Rent a van, or fullsize truck when on the Shore. You'll need it for Mt. Seymour, and Mt. Cypress for multiple runs. Mt. Fromme you need to climb.

    5.) http://www.gutsploder.net/

    you can also check out the the surrounding Whistler trails, Comfortably Numb, Khyber Pass, River Runs Through It etc. Some good stuff, and doable on an AM rig. Hopefully we get a chance to ride Gargamel next year, it was too wet this past September.

    6.) Haven't hit Squamish, but there are plenty of good trails for all abilities. Check out NSMB, and sift through the forums. http://nsmb.com/ You can find plenty of info on what the locals ride, and get the scoop on good trails to ride.

    7.) I think 4 days is sufficent for Whistler, but that is just me. Your body will be tired the first day, so don't over do it. The trails will blow you away, and it's alot of stoke to process on your first day. Crank it Up, B-Line, Schleyer plus other single black and blues will get you warmed up, and give you a feel for the park.

    some guys bring more than others for gear/tools etc., so bring what you think is neccessary, and what you can fit when packing. (tool kit, pads, rd hanger(s), a spare rd, tubes, f/r tires, bleed kit) If you are packing a bike, there isn't much room for spare parts, once you factor in pads etc.

    I'll have to link up with sometime out at ATT, and we can discuss in the months ahead. You can always pm me, or Dft too. He's a Shore addict!

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    Sorry Mac, but nothing beats dh tubes and dual plys. Never get flats, and I don't have to mess with syringes and white gooey stuff, spin my tires, burp etc.

    Hopefully we'll hook up for some killer Sierra big moutain stuff next spring, plan on heading up there alot! If you heal up sooner, swing on down to SD, we have a couple of new trails you might be interested in.

    Quote Originally Posted by macrider
    Tubes?

    I mean, REALLY? - I know you're old and all, but TUBES?

    It was comical at Whistler this year - I remember the first trip I took to BC years ago - 8 days touring the whole province in a (smelly) van - the guides had told Dusty & I that "no way tubeless will work up here, everybody runs tubes" - which we promptly ignored, and rode without flats the whole time (btw, they said the same thing about chainguides, funny enough the e-13's did great)

    so this year, every single day I'd see guys (sans camelback) walking their bike down the hill with a flat, a couple guys I knew I ran into on the mtn with a flat and they begged a tube off of me (I carry one in my pack just-in-case) - flats all around me, people changing tubes off the trail - and me, with my tubeless setup riding the whole week up there (and crashing horribly) no flats

    other than that - all good advice you old tattooed shuttle-monkey ;-)

    although neither you nor DFT gave the guy the best advice - which is stay home - a) because once you ride up there everywhere else just doesn't do it....and b) your odds of coming home broken are awfully high (I say with my apt. with a shoulder specialist ortho tomorrow for scheduling a surgical manipulation of my frozen shoulder - oh Freight Train, you and I have a rematch coming - if I can ever move my shoulder again....)

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    definately look at your insurance policy to see if you are covered in Cananda or buy supplemental insurance for canada.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by macrider
    Tubes?

    I mean, REALLY? - I know you're old and all, but TUBES?

    It was comical at Whistler this year - I remember the first trip I took to BC years ago - 8 days touring the whole province in a (smelly) van - the guides had told Dusty & I that "no way tubeless will work up here, everybody runs tubes" - which we promptly ignored, and rode without flats the whole time (btw, they said the same thing about chainguides, funny enough the e-13's did great)

    ....)

    Definately agree....My crew of 4 had about 25 flats (no joke)....they were buying tubes at a premium price too (like 10 bucks each).....I had three holes in my tires and just blasted with some CO2 air and all was good.....still have holes in the tires and holding air with stans after not riding bike since August (broken wrist thanks to Whistler)
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    Quote Originally Posted by macrider

    although neither you nor DFT gave the guy the best advice - which is stay home - a) because once you ride up there everywhere else just doesn't do it....and b) your odds of coming home broken are awfully high (I say with my apt. with a shoulder specialist ortho tomorrow for scheduling a surgical manipulation of my frozen shoulder - oh Freight Train, you and I have a rematch coming - if I can ever move my shoulder again....)
    Dude, that sucks Mac! I heard you still rode after your crash at least.

    Mac's right, don't go unless you want to start a downward spiral of BC addiction. It starts off with a short one week trip and ends with quitting your job and moving to BC for the summer to become a bike bum...
    nothing witty here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by macrider
    Tubes?

    I mean, REALLY? - I know you're old and all, but TUBES?

    It was comical at Whistler this year - I remember the first trip I took to BC years ago - 8 days touring the whole province in a (smelly) van - the guides had told Dusty & I that "no way tubeless will work up here, everybody runs tubes" - which we promptly ignored, and rode without flats the whole time (btw, they said the same thing about chainguides, funny enough the e-13's did great)

    so this year, every single day I'd see guys (sans camelback) walking their bike down the hill with a flat, a couple guys I knew I ran into on the mtn with a flat and they begged a tube off of me (I carry one in my pack just-in-case) - flats all around me, people changing tubes off the trail - and me, with my tubeless setup riding the whole week up there (and crashing horribly) no flats

    other than that - all good advice you old tattooed shuttle-monkey ;-)

    although neither you nor DFT gave the guy the best advice - which is stay home - a) because once you ride up there everywhere else just doesn't do it....and b) your odds of coming home broken are awfully high (I say with my apt. with a shoulder specialist ortho tomorrow for scheduling a surgical manipulation of my frozen shoulder - oh Freight Train, you and I have a rematch coming - if I can ever move my shoulder again....)
    Ahh Grasshopper, you need to look deeper & not be quick to strike!

    I haven't run tubes since 2002, Stans & tubeless all the way, but......I did tear a hole in my sidewall once, about 1/2 mile down Original Sin (on top) & had to walk for freaking ever to the bottom (unlike Big Bear, they will not let you ride the lift down). So now, I always carry a spare tube, pump & tools, cause I could have had at least 3 extra runs instead of walking, whatta beotch!! Figure Sam Hill took 14 minutes & change to ride down to the bottom, now do the math on how long it took me to roll / walk it

    I was stoked to see you up there this year, too bad we didn't get to ride, but next time ; ) Hope you weren't beat up too badly, but looked like the booze was working well

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    Ahh Grasshopper, you need to look deeper & not be quick to strike!

    I haven't run tubes since 2002, Stans & tubeless all the way, but......I did tear a hole in my sidewall once, about 1/2 mile down Original Sin (on top) & had to walk for freaking ever to the bottom (unlike Big Bear, they will not let you ride the lift down). So now, I always carry a spare tube, pump & tools, cause I could have had at least 3 extra runs instead of walking, whatta beotch!! Figure Sam Hill took 14 minutes & change to ride down to the bottom, now do the math on how long it took me to roll / walk it

    I was stoked to see you up there this year, too bad we didn't get to ride, but next time ; ) Hope you weren't beat up too badly, but looked like the booze was working well
    yea we were supposed to do gargemel and even possibly RDS!! dam i want to do that puppy.
    boggieman might be my favorite trail, its got everything. i need 3 months up there.

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    For condo rentals check out: http://www.vrbo.com/

    I got a codo right outside the village for a good $$, just a minute bike ride to the village.

    It is an addicting place. I'm dying to go back.

    Watch your bike when not riding it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2w4s
    Dude, that sucks Mac! I heard you still rode after your crash at least.

    Mac's right, don't go unless you want to start a downward spiral of BC addiction. It starts off with a short one week trip and ends with quitting your job and moving to BC for the summer to become a bike bum...

    dude, I rode for 3 more days with a fractured humorous (not funny), separated AC joint and a torn labrum (I've heard every variation of the jokes that go with this, thanks)

    not too smart, but I really enjoyed all the riding - until the last day when I hit the A-line drop and my destroyed shoulder just gave out - concussion #2 for that week - oh, and my tooth went through my lip....good times...good times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granny
    Sorry Mac, but nothing beats dh tubes and dual plys. Never get flats, and I don't have to mess with syringes and white gooey stuff, spin my tires, burp etc.

    Hopefully we'll hook up for some killer Sierra big moutain stuff next spring, plan on heading up there alot! If you heal up sooner, swing on down to SD, we have a couple of new trails you might be interested in.
    Ha, I think you were there for one of my very few flats over the last years - sidewall tears are the one thing Stan's just won't deal with..

    my buddy bought the cabin at the bottom of BC - the one next to the road after you cross the downed sequoia - so I plan on being up there a lot (especially once the hot tub he bought goes in) - two giant sequoias and the Tule river in the front yard, and my two favorite trails in socal ending right there makes it primo in my book - fridge full of beer and a hot tube at the end of the ride? I'm IN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by inkpad
    Ahh Grasshopper, you need to look deeper & not be quick to strike!

    I haven't run tubes since 2002, Stans & tubeless all the way, but......I did tear a hole in my sidewall once, about 1/2 mile down Original Sin (on top) & had to walk for freaking ever to the bottom (unlike Big Bear, they will not let you ride the lift down). So now, I always carry a spare tube, pump & tools, cause I could have had at least 3 extra runs instead of walking, whatta beotch!! Figure Sam Hill took 14 minutes & change to ride down to the bottom, now do the math on how long it took me to roll / walk it

    I was stoked to see you up there this year, too bad we didn't get to ride, but next time ; ) Hope you weren't beat up too badly, but looked like the booze was working well
    ahhhh, my mistake Sensei....sidewall tears on occasion are the only downside to the tubeless setup - but like you, I just carry a tube for if that happens

    14 minutes from the top is insane, just stupid fast

    I was great to see you up there, next time for sure we'll ride together - the booze carried me through until I got home, but Sunday was bad without pain killers - I gotta remember to keep some vike around the house (but it goes so well with bourbon!)
    I also really want to roadtrip up your way, Blackrock looks really fun, and that epic trail along the river (McKenzie?) looks pretty great - maybe strap some kayaks on the roof and bikes on the rack and do some multisport madness (assuming my shoulder lets me whitewater boat again...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by macrider
    dude, I rode for 3 more days with a fractured humorous (not funny), separated AC joint and a torn labrum (I've heard every variation of the jokes that go with this, thanks)

    not too smart, but I really enjoyed all the riding - until the last day when I hit the A-line drop and my destroyed shoulder just gave out - concussion #2 for that week - oh, and my tooth went through my lip....good times...good times

    At least you didn't tear your starfish, that would have been bad ; )

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