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    Places With the Least Amount of Snakes

    Where do you guys go to get away from snakes? Ive been riding El Prieto a lot lately and have been hearing a lot more rattlers in the bushes lately, and to be honest... They freak me the fuk out. Lol.
    I rented a bike in Hawaii earlier this month when i was there, and it was such a relief knowing that there were no snakes (or anything else that would poison you)

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    Anywhere you live or ride in So.Cal you're going to have to deal with snakes. Don't worry, there are not that many reported snake bites per year that should make anyone afraid of using the outdoors. If you see a rattle snake, avoid it, it's that simple

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    I have learned that unless I stop, dismount, and shuffle into a rattler, I'm golden. I worry more about running the poor dudes over if they're busy crossing the trail.

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    Suck it up Buttercup! Snakes are part of mountain biking. You can always ride the road with those texting all around you. I'll take the rattlers.

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    I've seen 8 or so of them while riding, and never had any problem. Just don't go out of your way to bother them and you should be fine.

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    Im most scared about somehow falling off the trail into a rattler.. Lol. I've always heard em off to the side of the trail but lately (at least whenever I'm usually riding) I've been hearing them a lot more closer to the trail edge.

    Articles like this also don't really do much to calm my nerves....

    Drought may be causing higher rates of snakebites in Southern California

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    Re: Places With the Least Amount of Snakes

    Quote Originally Posted by bcusitsjefe View Post
    Im most scared about somehow falling off the trail into a rattler.. Lol. I've always heard em off to the side of the trail but lately (at least whenever I'm usually riding) I've been hearing them a lot more closer to the trail edge.

    Articles like this also don't really do much to calm my nerves....

    Drought may be causing higher rates of snakebites in Southern California
    You are still more likely to fall off a cliff than fall onto a snake.
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    Hawaii or just give up riding.

    Take a poll of riders who have actually been bitten while riding. I think you will get the expected results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcusitsjefe View Post
    Im most scared about somehow falling off the trail into a rattler.. Lol. I've always heard em off to the side of the trail but lately (at least whenever I'm usually riding) I've been hearing them a lot more closer to the trail edge.

    Articles like this also don't really do much to calm my nerves....

    Drought may be causing higher rates of snakebites in Southern California
    If you are riding along and think you are hearing rattlesnakes in the brush near you, those are not snakes! Rattlesnakes don't just crawl around rattling; they only rattle in response to an immediate threat. Most likely you are hearing cicadas (like crickets), which do make a rattling-like noise, and it can be really loud. I wouldn't have thought about this but I have a friend who lives a couple of houses from a really great trail, and he told me he was afraid to walk there because of all the rattlesnakes he heard; that's when I figured out that people could think the noise cicadas make could be a rattlesnake.

    Although people do come across snakes, including rattlesnakes, once in a while when riding, they just aren't that common. If you think they are so common you are afraid of falling into one, then you definitely have the wrong impression - the likelihood of that happening is one in a million or one in a billion. So really, you just need to relax about it and not get freaked out, because the risk is really, really, really low!

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    Quote Originally Posted by agoura_biker View Post
    If you are riding along and think you are hearing rattlesnakes in the brush near you, those are not snakes! Rattlesnakes don't just crawl around rattling; they only rattle in response to an immediate threat. Most likely you are hearing cicadas (like crickets), which do make a rattling-like noise, and it can be really loud. I wouldn't have thought about this but I have a friend who lives a couple of houses from a really great trail, and he told me he was afraid to walk there because of all the rattlesnakes he heard; that's when I figured out that people could think the noise cicadas make could be a rattlesnake.

    Although people do come across snakes, including rattlesnakes, once in a while when riding, they just aren't that common. If you think they are so common you are afraid of falling into one, then you definitely have the wrong impression - the likelihood of that happening is one in a million or one in a billion. So really, you just need to relax about it and not get freaked out, because the risk is really, really, really low!

    Well this definitely has calmed me down a bit (although i do know some of the sounds i've heard were rattlers, according to other people on the trail), i never thought about cicadas.

    I guess i should just relax a bit more and just ride...


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    I see snakes all the time and they are very aggressive and always trying to bite me! They are are on all my favorite trails in SD and OC counties. If any of you have any fear of or apprehension about them, I would not ride here...it's too dangerous.

    That's okay, don't worry about me though, I used to hunt and eat snakes (rattlers) as a kid. I will continue patrol the trails unabated, warning others of the hazards of snakes...and mountain lions, too...even if I have to do it alone and risk life and limb.

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    RTS0212, thanks for being such a giver, we all appreciate the work your doing...does rattlesnakes really taste like chicken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Jeff View Post
    RTS0212, thanks for being such a giver, we all appreciate the work your doing...does rattlesnakes really taste like chicken?
    It's a tough, tough job, but somebody has to do it.

    Kind of like chicken...it's mostly psychosomatic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcusitsjefe View Post
    Where do you guys go to get away from snakes? Ive been riding El Prieto a lot lately and have been hearing a lot more rattlers in the bushes lately, and to be honest... They freak me the fuk out. Lol.
    I rented a bike in Hawaii earlier this month when i was there, and it was such a relief knowing that there were no snakes (or anything else that would poison you)
    You need to get over your ridiculous phobia. Imagine what a you look like to a snake. You're only about 100 times larger. It's them who have a justified fear.

    If you are going to ride your bike in wild areas, prepare to be among snakes. It's their home. You are the visitor. Respect is all it takes.

    If that is beyond your comprehension/ability then sell your trail bike and stay off the dirt. I understand that cycling is also done on paved roads in the "concrete jungle".

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    Think of it like this, at least you can hear the
    rattlers. Its the lions you need to really watch
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    That and don't forget about the SoCal red striped snipe. It took three riders in 2013, one in 2011, and wbo can forget the bloody year of 2010?
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    Yeah, those snipe are crazy, luckily we don't have the Blue striped snipe, like they have in Colorado, almost got attacked by one, if it wasn't for my dry chain making that squeaking sound, he probably would have taken he down, but if he came any closer, I was going to take the floor pump I have strapped to my top tube tube and whack the thing across one of his two heads.

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    Hopefully you'll be lucky enough to see one of these (mountain kingsnake -- not a coral snake):


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    I've had a few California mountain kings for pets. Gorgeous snakes but they bite!

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    In contrast with the article, I have seen a lot less rattlers this year.
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    Wait.....

    Snakes bite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Learux View Post
    In contrast with the article, I have seen a lot less rattlers this year.
    I have seen a Blutarski of rattlers this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankerboy View Post
    Wait.....

    Snakes bite?
    Yep.

    Next thing ya know...he'll say he's afraid of spiders.

    Cuz, ya know...I don't likes spiders and snakes! Bueller?

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    I hardly ever see rattlers up on Mt. laguna in San Diego, I've seen more mountain lions there, but lately, the rattler sightings are catching up.

    The rattlers up there are very dark, almost black, and they seem to be smaller than the lowland rattlers. But they are much more ornery.

    I found a 4' one ...big for up there on Sunday, and I had to move him a few feet off the trail. The funny thing was that although he looked to be uninjured, for some reason he reacted like a rattler would, coiled himself up, but he didn't rattle at me at all.
    He just let me pick him up by sliding a long branch underneath him, and gently walk him off the trail a ways, and gently put him down. I don't see any reason to hurt them unless they pose an immediate threat to people or their animals.....they fill a vital niche up there in controlling a species that DOES seem to be in abundance compared to last year....ground squirrels.

    And, BTW.....what Hawg said is right. Leave them be if it is at all possible.

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    I've been fortunate enough in the last few years in seeing several Mountain King snakes, they're a pretty awesome site. A few years ago, I pick a baby one off of the road, where it surely would have gotten run over, and put it off the side of the road.

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    They are crickets in the bushes cooling off, not snakes.most of the time that is what you hear, however you never know, they can sneak up behind you on a climb and get you at any time...be aware!
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    The worst rattlesnake experience I have ever had on my bike happened when i was about 10 (20 years ago fwiw). I was riding my bike through some paths in the palmdale desert, and thought a snake was a stick so I just rolled over it. I ran over its head, which pushed its fangs up through its skull into my front tire and basically sticking it in place. The snake twisted up in my spokes and caused the front end to lock up, sending me over the bars into some jumping cactus. Being 10, i panicked and ran back home with all the cactus paddles still stuck in me, leaving my bike in the desert. Took my dad and I a couple days to find the bike as i had no idea where i left it, I just ran away in blind fear.

    So long story short, if you come across a snake on the paths, its most likely going to take more damage than you, and you stand a higher change of injury from the aftermath of the confrontation than the actual confrontation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malicefox View Post
    The worst rattlesnake experience I have ever had on my bike happened when i was about 10 (20 years ago fwiw). I was riding my bike through some paths in the palmdale desert, and thought a snake was a stick so I just rolled over it. I ran over its head, which pushed its fangs up through its skull into my front tire and basically sticking it in place. The snake twisted up in my spokes and caused the front end to lock up, sending me over the bars into some jumping cactus. Being 10, i panicked and ran back home with all the cactus paddles still stuck in me, leaving my bike in the desert. Took my dad and I a couple days to find the bike as i had no idea where i left it, I just ran away in blind fear.

    So long story short, if you come across a snake on the paths, its most likely going to take more damage than you, and you stand a higher change of injury from the aftermath of the confrontation than the actual confrontation.
    Although I do not doubt this happened, it's "unbelievable"! The cards were not stacked in your favor on that day. If you were a cat, that would surely have cost you one of your 9 lives.

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    Worst part was using my kid logic of not letting my parents pull the cactus out of my leg because it was deep and would hurt, they had to cut the paddle off and leave the spine stuck in my leg and wait until i fell asleep to remove it. The next morning i started screaming because i thought i rolled over on the spine and pushed it all the way in my leg. My mom started laughing and pointed at my nightstand where the spine they took out was laying. I didn't find it so funny.

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    Was biking up at Mt Laguna today. The snakes were alive and out today...I encountered one and was told by two other people biking and hiking that they saw them as well.

    I was going north on the east side of the upper meadow and was going about 15mph down a gently slope thru some trees. Just after I rounded a slight bend thru the trees to a straight away in the trial, there was a 4' fat rattler just starting to cross the trail about 15 feet in front of me. I must have startled it cuz it quickly rattled and tried to strike at me as I past it, but since it wasn't coiled it could only feign a short strike. Simultaneously, I let out a loud "sh!t!" then stopped about 20 feet up. I got off the bike and walked back and watched it cross the trail into some low-lying weeds/branches. I hovered over it taking some pictures getting close enough (within 4 feet) to where it would rattle as it was moving forward and away from me.

    Also, as I was leaving in the car going back down S-1 hwy to I-8, I noticed a large coyote on the east side of the road approaching the hwy. It stopped in some trees on the side of the hill next to the hwy (where the cows are at the 5K foot elevation level). I was hoping it would cross the road in front of me (heading west...which is good luck in Native American mythology), so I pulled over and waited for it to do so. Well, it just sat there in the shade of the tree looking around and watching me for about a 1/2 hour. I figured it was waiting for me to leave, so as I was starting the car back up to leave, it got up and walked over to a fallen tree about 15 feet away. It looked at the ground and started to pounce up and down in the dirt....arching its body like a polar bear does thru the ice/snow to get to a seal below. After about 30 seconds of this pouncing, he came up with a nice size mole or field mouse and promptly gobbled it down. Patience. Not too many times are we rewarded with being able to watch predation like that in nature. A first for me.

    Lastly, I crashed and burned up by the Wooded Hill secret trails by the Agua Dulce pump house...I have a few sprocket gashes and scrapes in both my lower legs...nothing to write home about...just another MTBing Purple Heart!

    Overall, it was a good day to ride up in the mountains and to be alive!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTSO2112 View Post
    Was biking up at Mt Laguna today. The snakes were alive and out today...I encountered one and was told by two other people biking and hiking that they saw them as well.

    I was going north on the east side of the upper meadow and was going about 15mph down a gently slope thru some trees. Just after I rounded a slight bend thru the trees to a straight away in the trial, there was a 4' fat rattler just starting to cross the trail about 15 feet in front of me. I must have startled it cuz it quickly rattled and tried to strike at me as I past it, but since it wasn't coiled it could only feign a short strike. Simultaneously, I let out a loud "sh!t!" then stopped about 20 feet up. I got off the bike and walked back and watched it cross the trail into some low-lying weeds/branches. I hovered over it taking some pictures getting close enough (within 4 feet) to where it would rattle as it was moving forward and away from me.

    Also, as I was leaving in the car going back down S-1 hwy to I-8, I noticed a large coyote on the east side of the road approaching the hwy. It stopped in some trees on the side of the hill next to the hwy (where the cows are at the 5K foot elevation level). I was hoping it would cross the road in front of me (heading west...which is good luck in Native American mythology), so I pulled over and waited for it to do so. Well, it just sat there in the shade of the tree looking around and watching me for about a 1/2 hour. I figured it was waiting for me to leave, so as I was starting the car back up to leave, it got up and walked over to a fallen tree about 15 feet away. It looked at the ground and started to pounce up and down in the dirt....arching its body like a polar bear does thru the ice/snow to get to a seal below. After about 30 seconds of this pouncing, he came up with a nice size mole or field mouse and promptly gobbled it down. Patience. Not too many times are we rewarded with being able to watch predation like that in nature. A first for me.

    Lastly, I crashed and burned up by the Wooded Hill secret trails by the Agua Dulce pump house...I have a few sprocket gashes and scrapes in both my lower legs...nothing to write home about...just another MTBing Purple Heart!

    Overall, it was a good day to ride up in the mountains and to be alive!!!
    Very cool RTS02112!

    Did you upload your snakes pics here? If not would you mind sharing them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Very cool RTS02112!

    Did you upload your snakes pics here? If not would you mind sharing them?
    Here are the three best. My cellphone camera sucks. Heck, these are so grainy you might mistake them for the ever elusive "Old" Laguna Sasquatch.

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    We saw a FAT rattler up in the Lagunas last weekend. Drought or not, that guy had been eating well. We stopped, watched him cross the trail and then continued with our ride. All good.

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    You guys may have noticed....there's a bumper crop of ground squirrels up in Laguna this year. Snake chow.

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    ...and closer to home (for me): San Clemente canyon/Marian Bear yesterday. Big fella was just chillin' in the shade at the edge of a stagnant pond under one of the freeway ramps (52/Genesee). Looked to be about a good 5 feet long and as big around as my *****.

    I'm no snake expert, but I was kinda surprised to see a rattler so close to the water.






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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckanado View Post
    ...and closer to home (for me): San Clemente canyon/Marian Bear yesterday. Big fella was just chillin' in the shade at the edge of a stagnant pond under one of the freeway ramps (52/Genesee). Looked to be about a good 5 feet long and as big around as my *****.

    I'm no snake expert, but I was kinda surprised to see a rattler so close to the water.


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    That's pretty cool.....there used to be a big one that lived on the hillside single track connecting SC and Rose. I saw him on the trail a few times.

    And at the right time of day, the road through Rose has a snake out warming itself on the edge about every 2-300 yards.

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    Like the OP, I used to be scurrred of the snake, but then I read up on them and learned when and how they operate. They get hunted as well and are scared of us. I don't trip out on them anymore. If I stop on a trail, I just do a quick scan to ensure I don't plant my foot on one.

    I ran over the mother of all rattle snakes in Marshal Canyon. I was flying down a run, navigating my way around some horse sh!t when the sh!t suddenly moved. That Snake was not impressed with me as it slid off the trail.

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    lol This is one of the funniest posts I have seen. The most unsafe part of any Mt Bike ride is the drive to the trailhead. Statistically you have a far greater chance of death in a car then biking in an area with snakes. That being said, just go ride your bike and enjoy the adventure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojoronnie View Post
    lol This is one of the funniest posts I have seen. The most unsafe part of any Mt Bike ride is the drive to the trailhead. Statistically you have a far greater chance of death in a car then biking in an area with snakes. That being said, just go ride your bike and enjoy the adventure.
    Yes, but you have an air bag in case of a crash.

    In case of a snake bite, you're fooked...cuz, last time I checked, NO mtber ever carries anti-venom or an emergency helicopter (in their camel back) for that life flight to the nearest hospital!!!

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    Thats why you buy a drone and keep it in your pack. If you get bit, have it pre-programmed to go to the hospital with a note saying antivenom needed. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTSO2112 View Post
    Yes, but you have an air bag in case of a crash.

    In case of a snake bite, you're fooked...cuz, last time I checked, NO mtber ever carries anti-venom or an emergency helicopter (in their camel back) for that life flight to the nearest hospital!!!

    OMG! Some people should just stay indoors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcusitsjefe View Post
    Where do you guys go to get away from snakes? Ive been riding El Prieto a lot lately and have been hearing a lot more rattlers in the bushes lately, and to be honest... They freak me the fuk out. Lol.
    I rented a bike in Hawaii earlier this month when i was there, and it was such a relief knowing that there were no snakes (or anything else that would poison you)
    Above the tree line.

    If you find a rattlesnake, just eat it and make something out of it.



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    If I ever happen to cross paths with MCS, I plan to make something nice out of his skin, too.

    It rubs the lotion on it's skin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojoronnie View Post
    OMG! Some people should just stay indoors.
    Exactly! That way I can have the trials all to myself, hence the tactic employed!

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    I hear that we are entering Snakenado season. Perhaps it's best if those who fear snakes do indeed stay indoors (and off the trails) for a while. It doesn't bother me at all when a snake drops out of the sky and lands on my lap.

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    BTW... Does anyone know of an epic surf spot where I won't find any sharks? I would hate to paddle out in an area where there might be some sharks, too dangerous! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojoronnie View Post
    BTW... Does anyone know of an epic surf spot where I won't find any sharks? I would hate to paddle out in an area where there might be some sharks, too dangerous! lol
    This brings up another important fact. There are no snakes in the surf along the So Cal surf. Unless you consider the "wave snake" who drops in on your wave and snakes you out of a good ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    This brings up another important fact. There are no snakes in the surf along the So Cal surf. Unless you consider the "wave snake" who drops in on your wave and snakes you out of a good ride.
    One of the joys of SoCal surfing for sure. I actually knew a guy who got a dry bite from a genuine sea snake in the surf down off Oaxaca. It washed onto his board in the lineup and bit him right above the knee, but it was a dry bite, because he did not die. I think he mighta crapped his trunks, though.

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    Don't go near my toilet, there is a big snake in thurrr.

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    When you are not biking, you must be pimping.

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    If you find a rattlesnake, just eat it and make something out of it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckanado View Post
    ...and closer to home (for me): San Clemente canyon/Marian Bear yesterday. Big fella was just chillin' in the shade at the edge of a stagnant pond under one of the freeway ramps (52/Genesee). Looked to be about a good 5 feet long and as big around as my *****.

    I'm no snake expert, but I was kinda surprised to see a rattler so close to the water.






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    Actually it's not unusual at all. Rattlesnakes swim. They cross the Colorado river so whenever we were swimming there my dad always told me not to grab "sticks" in the water because it might not be a stick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    This brings up another important fact. There are no snakes in the surf along the So Cal surf. Unless you consider the "wave snake" who drops in on your wave and snakes you out of a good ride.
    Lots of brown trout, though, after a good rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doe boy View Post
    don't go near my toilet, there is a big snake in thurrr.
    lmfao...
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    Last year I was riding with a buddy. He was behind me. I heard him yell and then heard his tires skidding. I thought he wrecked so I turned around and he's yelling at me "you ok?!?" I didn't know what he was talking about until he said a snake struck at my bike from the side of the trail. The strike caused the snake to "hop" off the little berm on the side of the trail. Sure enough a really pissed off copperhead was dancing around on the trail. My buddy had bunny hopped over it since it flopped into the middle of the trail in front of him.

    From that point until the end of my ride I saw over 800,000 more snakes. Although they could have been sticks. But were probably snakes.

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    I was riding over some log piles in ________ canyon a few years ago, and just as I crested one a rattler on the back side went flying off into the bushes, pissed as hell. It looked like it was shot out of a cannon. I was pretty damned lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb2wji View Post
    From that point until the end of my ride I saw over 800,000 more snakes. Although they could have been sticks. But were probably snakes.
    LOL, I know the feeling. I have seen dozens of mountain lions disguised as bushes during some night rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by random walk View Post
    LOL, I know the feeling. I have seen dozens of mountain lions disguised as bushes during some night rides.
    Yup! Is it just me, or does a squirrel sound just like a bear at night?

    OP, I think there are snakes everywhere. Just make sure you keep your head up. They fall from trees ya know

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    As a long time herp (collector) and MTBer:

    Rattlesnakes are the only snakes in California dangerous to humans. However as pointed out elsewhere on this thread, they bite when threatened and generally prefer to escape.

    The chance of snakebite while riding is similar to the odds of being struck by lightening. However when off the bike - sitting for a rest, watering a bush, etc, there is a risk of disturbing or inadvertently stepping on one. This is when you could be bitten.

    Exaggerated fear of snakes is irrational. You're over 10,000 times more likely to be killed by your own species than snakebite:

    Some statistics:

    Total US persons died of snakebite 2000-present: 13
    Total US persons died of dog attacks 2000-present (several hundred)
    Total US persons murdered 2000-2010 (excluding Florida) 165,000

    http://en.wikipedia....e_United_States
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    450 people die every year just getting out of bed. Maybe the poster shouldn't go to sleep either. Silliest post I've ever read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolling thunder View Post
    Rattlesnakes are the only snakes in California dangerous to humans.
    That's not true. I'll let you sit on that statement and see if you can fiqure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    That's not true. I'll let you sit on that statement and see if you can fiqure it out.
    Doesn't it go "Red on Yellow will kill a fellow"?

    Found it...

    Red touches yellow, kills a fellow. Red touches black, friend of Jack.
    Red touches yellow, kills a fellow. Red touches black, venom lack.
    Red touches yellow, death says hello. Black touches red, keep your head.
    Yellow touches red, you be dead. Red touches black, eat Cracker Jacks.

    HMMMMM but...

    After a little web research, there seems to be a consensus that only 6 species of snakes are venomous in Cali and all are rattlers. I am just going to go stand in my corner now....
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    Keep searching.

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    The rhyme refers to Coral snakes. These are venomous but the furthest West they occur is Arizona (and IIRC parts of Mexico). The same 3 colors occur in California Mountain Kingsnakes (with red to black), but they are harmless.

    I have seen the California Mountain Kings in the Santa Monicas, though the ordinary California King is much more common.

    California mountain kingsnake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Lyre snake and Ringnecks are mildly venomous California species, but they are not dangerous to humans.

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    MCS might be referring to the Sidewinder, which can bury itself in sand that you shouldn't sit on. However they have rattles.

    Or, more likely, the very dangerous one eyed trouser snake?

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    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    That's not true. I'll let you sit on that statement and see if you can fiqure it out.
    99% of the people out there don't about the other one since it's so far down along the bottom of the South-eastern part of the state

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    No man. Think southwestern California. Venom yield is low, but still considered potentially dangerous to humans. It's also found in India, Africa, Asia, Australia, Mexico, including Baja California, and Central America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    No man. Think southwestern California. Venom yield is low, but still considered potentially dangerous to humans. of it's also found in Africa, Asia, Australia, Mexico, including Baja California, and Central America.
    I'm tired of using my brain. I worked very hard all day, then came home to work for my second job, then worked with my daughter on her homework, then did book keeping for my business.

    Now, can you just spell it out plain and simple,... pretty please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    I'm tired of using my brain. I worked very hard all day, then came home to work for my second job, then worked with my daughter on her homework, then did book keeping for my business.

    Now, can you just spell it out plain and simple,... pretty please.
    This ain't the Hawg show, you know. I'll let you lose a little sleep over it. Remind me tomorrow. In fact you're going to have a dream about it tonight. One of these snakes is going to bite you in the nutsack. And you'll wake up with the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    This ain't the Hawg show, you know. I'll let you lose a little sleep over it. Remind me tomorrow. In fact you're going to have a dream about it tonight. One of these snakes is going to bite you in the nutsack. And you'll wake up with the answer.
    In order to get any sleep at all tonight, I will have to O.D. on Ambien after this outrageous act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolling thunder View Post
    The rhyme refers to Coral snakes. These are venomous but the furthest West they occur is Arizona (and IIRC parts of Mexico). The same 3 colors occur in California Mountain Kingsnakes (with red to black), but they are harmless.

    I have seen the California Mountain Kings in the Santa Monicas, though the ordinary California King is much more common.

    California mountain kingsnake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Lyre snake and Ringnecks are mildly venomous California species, but they are not dangerous to humans.
    They are not venomous, but often introduce dangerous bacterial infections to those bitten.

    Here's a guide to all the venomous snakes in CA .

    Facts about snakes in California

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Ray View Post
    They are not venomous, but often introduce dangerous bacterial infections to those bitten.

    Here's a guide to all the venomous snakes in CA .

    Facts about snakes in California
    Looks like Mountain Cycle Yawn is no snake expert...unless he counts Gila Monsters as snakes!

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    Not very common in California, but they are around.
    Yellow-bellied Sea Snake - Pelamis platurus

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    47 years in So Cal beach communities and I have never seen one. Hell, up till now, I didn't even know it existed. I always thought sea snakes were more of a Caribbean or Mediterranean thing.

    Guess if you ever run into one on your mountain bike, it was because you rode off the end of a pier and are now swimming for your life!
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    Right! Forgot about sea snakes!

    Certain sea snakes have very toxic venom (ie milligrams needed to kill) needed to paralyze their fish dinners, but they are rare and IIRC very timid.

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    Sea snakes are not applicable, as the snakes have to be land-based! MCYawn cheated and therefore should be severely punished! A good tar and feathering followed by a nice keel-hauling with a chilled Chianti on the side should suffice...what say we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTSO2112 View Post
    Sea snakes are not applicable, as the snakes have to be land-based! MCYawn cheated and therefore should be severely punished! A good tar and feathering followed by a nice keel-hauling with a chilled Chianti on the side should suffice...what say we?
    Confiscate one months' trust fund check. That oughta do it.
    He don't look like the type that could survive a keel-hauling, Chief.

    Speaking of sea snakes, that reminds me. An old surfing buddy had one, a REAL poisonous one, wash up onto his surfboard and bite him around his knee. Since a sea snake bite of that really poisonous variety is always fatal, he paddled in, thinking he was a goner.

    Turned out it was a 'dry' bite, but it kept us out of the water for the rest of the day. That was way down around Acapulco. Lotta good beach breaks down that way.

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    Bahhhh...sea snake/pea steak...

    Is that all you had? Come on Shawn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Not very common in California, but they are around.
    Yellow-bellied Sea Snake - Pelamis platurus


    Quote Originally Posted by bankerboy View Post
    47 years in So Cal beach communities and I have never seen one. Hell, up till now, I didn't even know it existed. I always thought sea snakes were more of a Caribbean or Mediterranean thing.

    Guess if you ever run into one on your mountain bike, it was because you rode off the end of a pier and are now swimming for your life!


    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Bahhhh...sea snake/pea steak...

    Is that all you had? Come on Shawn...
    Ha,ha of course nobody ever sees them in So. Cal. because they basically don't exist there. A couple sightings which means they were carried over seas on a few occasions. Here is a quote frame that link.

    Uncommon in California. Sight records include: San Clemente beach in Orange County, 1983; LA Bay, 1961; and the San Diego Area, 1985.

    This snake is probably the most widely distributed snake in the world, inhabiting the Indian and Pacific Oceans, including the coasts of Africa, Asia, Australia, Mexico, including Baja California, and Central America.
    Quote Originally Posted by NDD View Post
    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Ha,ha of course nobody ever sees them in So. Cal. because they basically don't exist there. A couple sightings which means they were carried over seas on a few occasions. Here is a quote frame that link.

    Uncommon in California. Sight records include: San Clemente beach in Orange County, 1983; LA Bay, 1961; and the San Diego Area, 1985.

    This snake is probably the most widely distributed snake in the world, inhabiting the Indian and Pacific Oceans, including the coasts of Africa, Asia, Australia, Mexico, including Baja California, and Central America.
    MCYawn was pulling a fast one...and he knew it...of course, Hawg is an easy target!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTSO2112 View Post
    MCYawn was pulling a fast one...and he knew it...of course, Hawg is an easy target!
    You do realize that I do that on purpose, don't you? This (MTBR) is the Hawg Show, after all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    MCS was serious...guaranteed.
    Seriously disturbed, no doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTSO2112 View Post
    MCYawn was pulling a fast one...and he knew it...of course, Hawg is an easy target!
    MCS was serious...guaranteed.
    Quote Originally Posted by NDD View Post
    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    You do realize that I do that on purpose, don't you? This (MTBR) is the Hawg Show, after all...
    That does go w/o saying...well, actually, you share that honour with KOP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTSO2112 View Post
    That does go w/o saying...well, actually, you share that honour with KOP!
    King of P_____ ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    King of P_____ ???
    Exactly!

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    You guys are hilarious. I needed a good laugh. My dog is in the doggy hospital. And the contractors are effing my house up.

    Oh, that would be King of Pu$$y!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Bahhhh...sea snake/pea steak...

    Is that all you had? Come on Shawn...
    It's more than you had, Hawgster.

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