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    My Crash on the Widow Maker - Noble Canyon

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    Man, if I had a nickel for every time I've done a similar crash . . . the ol' pause-in-an-attempt-to-pick-the-best-line-possible-resulting-in-slo-mo-flop-over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfiniteRoller View Post
    Man, if I had a nickel for every time I've done a similar crash . . . the ol' pause-in-an-attempt-to-pick-the-best-line-possible-resulting-in-slo-mo-flop-over!
    I was not trying to pause, i was moving too slow and my rear tire hung up on a rock and stopped all my momentum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    I was not trying to pause, i was moving too slow and my rear tire hung up on a rock and stopped all my momentum.
    Ah, OK. Pretty sure I've done that crash, too.

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    Very similar crash back in Sept......cost me 9 stitches in my knee.
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    Ouch !
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    I remember when that was the only way down on the part of the trail...went down once successfully...two other times had to bail out. Then, they did the reroute...have taken that since.

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    Although you were in a precarious position, that was more of a bail out than a crash. But you did it right by tumbling it out.

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    I'm with Hawg, not really a crash more of a tip over. I
    do that a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    Klurejr, The old Widow-maker has claimed many. Your crash was nothing short of a bail out. I crashed in that exact spot on a couple occasions. One similar to yours but one could have been a life changing event. I went over the bars in a very violent crash landing head and arms first. My speed was a bit faster and I ended up down at the bottom where during a normal year there is a trickle of water running through. I give your landing an 8+

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Klurejr, The old Widow-maker has claimed many. Your crash was nothing short of a bail out. I crashed in that exact spot on a couple occasions. One similar to yours but one could have been a life changing event. I went over the bars in a very violent crash landing head and arms first. My speed was a bit faster and I ended up down at the bottom where during a normal year there is a trickle of water running through. I give your landing an 8+

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    Which begs the eternal Q: If one bails, but the bike crashes...is it still a crash?

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    Well Done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTSO2112 View Post
    Which begs the eternal Q: If one bails, but the bike crashes...is it still a crash?
    Depends on whether you are talking to the bike or the rider...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Depends on whether you are talking to the bike or the rider...
    Thats why it's ... eternal! Moreover, how much the rider feels for his bike (like a dog, Man's best friend)???

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTSO2112 View Post
    Thats why it's ... eternal! Moreover, how much the rider feels for his bike (like a dog, Man's best friend)???
    Oh boy, now you're getting all deep and sentimental on us..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Oh boy, now you're getting all deep and sentimental on us..
    You forgot, profound !

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    I just wish I had a GoPro back in the early 2000's when I went over the bars numerous times on Noble. I left my DNA all over that mountain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    I just wish I had a GoPro back in the early 2000's when I went over the bars numerous times on Noble. I left my DNA all over that mountain.
    I'm sure there are other ways to leave your DNA all over the mountain besides crashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    I'm sure there are other ways to leave your DNA all over the mountain besides crashing.
    Namely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    I'm sure there are other ways to leave your DNA all over the mountain besides crashing.
    From what I heard 3rd hand....He only leaves that at Marian Bear!

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    Falling off the bike is a crash in my books, whether a properly executed bail happened or not.


    ;-)


    I certainly did not intend to come off the bike when I went for it... I wanted to make it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    Falling off the bike is a crash in my books, whether a properly executed bail happened or not.


    ;-)


    I certainly did not intend to come off the bike when I went for it... I wanted to make it down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    Falling off the bike is a crash in my books, whether a properly executed bail happened or not.


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    I certainly did not intend to come off the bike when I went for it... I wanted to make it down.
    Let's define "crash" versus "bail off"

    It's all good, I'm just happy to relive a section of trail that I saw my life flash before my eyes many years ago.
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    well, I had a real crash tonight, but did not catch it on Video...

    Was running my dogs on the Bike Path along the San Luis Rey River from Oceanside harbor inland. My wife walks one and I take turns running the other along side the bike. This was the second time we tried doing this, the first time last week we had no issues.

    My boy is a good runner and stays to my side, leave a little slack in the leash and for the most part is easy to handle.

    My girl on the other hand refuses to run next to the bike, she wants to be in front, and she wants to go fast, like really fast. I think we were going about 15mph when she saw something to the left and crossed in front of my front tire and tanked the bike out from under me. I hit the pavement pretty hard.

    I wish I had my GoPro on this evening...... So you will have to settle for aftermath pics.

    She is the grey one on the right looking guilty:



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    ^ Nice selfie, the last picture. There's a thread for that, ya know?

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    A couple of notes on Widow Maker. First, the ride around is the original trail that was abandoned when people started hitting Widow Maker. They just restored it. KlureJr's crash is all about pace. Can't hit that one slow, speed is your friend as long as you know the line which is high right. I have hit low left at speed and it was not a pretty result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    A couple of notes on Widow Maker. First, the ride around is the original trail that was abandoned when people started hitting Widow Maker. ...
    You sure? Seems like it was made in the last 8 years. Definitely remember no P-line in that spot during the 90's, you talking the 80's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratt View Post
    You sure? Seems like it was made in the last 8 years. Definitely remember no P-line in that spot during the 90's, you talking the 80's?
    Yep positive. For a long time it was a two line choice but very few people took the upper line when there was more dirt on widow maker.

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    I've heard that in the 80's, Noble was in essence a completely different trail. You could ride up Noble back then, on a full-rigid bike, to boot.

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    Yep, very true. Amazing how much dirt has disappeared from that trail. First rode it in 88' on a full rigid GT Karakoram and it was my first MTB ride too. We did it as a shuttle and I still puked at the top of the climb from Sunrise. By the bottom I was hooked and hung up my BMX bike after that. We did ride up the trail several times up until the early 90's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    Yep, very true. Amazing how much dirt has disappeared from that trail. First rode it in 88' on a full rigid GT Karakoram and it was my first MTB ride too. We did it as a shuttle and I still puked at the top of the climb from Sunrise. By the bottom I was hooked and hung up my BMX bike after that. We did ride up the trail several times up until the early 90's.
    What I hear tell is that in the 80's sometime, somebody literally ran a Bobcat through the whole trail, grading it fairly smooth. It was, of course, almost exclusively a hiking/equestrian trail back then.

    I blame all the erosion on the horses. Those steel shoes are murder on a trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    ^ Nice selfie, the last picture. There's a thread for that, ya know?
    Where is that at?
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    I've witnessed two people go OTB by stuffing their front tire on a rock there and then breaking a wrist. I've done one stellar superman launch on that trail.

    this is from way back in the day. probably 12 years ago. there definitely was more dirt on the Widowmaker back then then there is now. but, hardtail with 3 inches of not always plush front travel can get it done.



    i must admit, not that I'm older and don't ride that type of stuff as often, the last two times I rode Noble I took the easier line to bypass Widowmaker. I think it's mental now though. I have a full suspension bike with 6 inches of travel yet I haven't tried it yet. maybe next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti_Rider View Post
    I've witnessed two people go OTB by stuffing their front tire on a rock there and then breaking a wrist. I've done one stellar superman launch on that trail.

    this is from way back in the day. probably 12 years ago. there definitely was more dirt on the Widowmaker back then then there is now. but, hardtail with 3 inches of not always plush front travel can get it done.



    i must admit, not that I'm older and don't ride that type of stuff as often, the last two times I rode Noble I took the easier line to bypass Widowmaker. I think it's mental now though. I have a full suspension bike with 6 inches of travel yet I haven't tried it yet. maybe next time.
    Y_R those were the day's huh. I remember riding that trail with you on several occasions. And yes the one bad crash I had in that section I almost broke my wrist as well. Several years later I did break my wrist mountain biking. I'm surprised It wasn't on that trail. Out of all the trails I've ridden none have come close to how many times I've gone over the bars as Noble Canyon. It's something about how the rocks are spaced and shaped that it's so easy to stick the front wheel and over you go.
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    I remember cleaning almost the whole section there, only to crash into the water.
    Fortunately the most I got was a scratch or two and a good soaking. There was a lot of water there that year.

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