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    Mountain lions!

    Hello everyone,

    I don't mean to ruin anyone's ride's or anything, but you guys should really be careful riding by yourselves. I've ridden Palmdale, Santa Clarita and Fontana since the recent rain we've just got, and on all occasions I've seen mountain lion tracks. I was scouting a jump, down in this little gorge in Palmdale, at the Polona Vista soccer park on S and 10th st and I came up on a mountain lion den and all I could see where their eyes. Scary stuff...

    Just be careful out there!


    ...I carry a 4" knife with me, and I'd recommend doing the same. Not saying that it's GOING to happen, but a knife in your pocket could mean life or death.

    I apologize, once again. I'd just hate for someone to be caught offgaurd if something WERE to happen.

    Here's a picture of some tracks



    Pretty unmistakable.

    "Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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    Lots of local ordinaces that are pretty restrictive regarding blade length.
    Some of this is a bit dated but possibly useful:
    http://www.ninehundred.net/~equalccw/knifelaw.html
    http://www.zknives.com/knives/articl...nifelaws.shtml
    http://www.knifelawsonline.com/knifehome/
    http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USKnife.pdf

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    I hiked the first 100 miles of the PCT with a couple of friends last Spring. We saw big cat tracks in a dry wash about 50 yds from our campsite -- the morning AFTER we camped there.

    I doubt it got any closer. I suppose not being able to bathe for 2-3 days has some benefits.

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    How many people get attacked by lions in CA every year? 0.125

    http://tchester.org/sgm/lists/lion_attacks_ca.html

    There is no logical reason to fear being killed by mountain lion more than being killed in a car accident or by the flu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaredama
    How many people get attacked by lions in CA every year? 0.125

    http://tchester.org/sgm/lists/lion_attacks_ca.html

    There is no logical reason to fear being killed by mountain lion more than being killed in a car accident or by the flu.
    There is really no logical reason to think you will be able to get to a knife or gun in time to defend yourself if you are attacked by one either. You have a greater chance of being attacked by a cow. Having said that if I saw one I would still sh!t myself.
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    i'd prolly try to make friends with them. Prolly not such a good idea though. what do they like to eat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandmangts
    There is really no logical reason to think you will be able to get to a knife or gun in time to defend yourself if you are attacked by one either. You have a greater chance of being attacked by a cow. Having said that if I saw one I would still sh!t myself.
    I found this on courgarinfo.org and there are more stories like it of people fighting off the lions and saving their lives.

    01 August. 61-year-old David Parker was attacked by a 100 pound (45 Kg) adult, male cougar at about 7:30 p.m. on his nightly stroll along a road near his home about two kilometres outside of Port Alice. Because of a sudden downpour, he took shelter from the rain under a rock ledge hanging over the remote gravel road. As he leaned against the rock shelf outcropping, the cougar pounced down beside him, startling him. When he went for his pocket knife, he left his neck exposed and the cougar lunged. He had to throw his head in a way to protect his neck, *which is when it bit his scalp and pulled it down over his eyes. In the struggle, Parker was hurled into the ditch, where his jaw was shattered against a rock and his cheekbone broken.

    As the cat clawed and bit into his neck, face, and head, Parker managed to open his knife's three-inch blade, stab the cougar a few times, and eventually slit its throat, leaving the cat to bleed in the middle of the gravel road.

    With darkness descending and no one nearby on the deserted gravel road, Parker, a retired millworker, managed to walk one kilometre to an industrial log sorting depot, where Jeff Reaume sped him to hospital in a company-owned logging ambulance. Reaume said whether by instinct, knowledge, or luck, Parker was able to slash the throat of the mauling cat -- the surest way to kill it. "He knew how to cut the cat. He knew what he was doing. If it was someone who didn't know how to cut it, we'd have found a body there -- or nothing at all, just blood." A friend of Parker's, Larry Pepper, mayor of the small forestry-dependent town near the north end of Vancouver Island, figures the cougar kept fighting for two or three minutes even after being slashed, but it finally died on the road. "Not that many people get attacked by a cougar and get away."

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarr
    i'd prolly try to make friends with them. Prolly not such a good idea though. what do they like to eat?
    They LOVE catnip, so I'd start there and see how things develop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mealsonwheels
    They LOVE catnip, so I'd start there and see how things develop.
    They may also see us as your screen name suggests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zarr
    They may also see us as your screen name suggests.
    Ryan burgers...blood rare Actually on Manswers the other night they said the most dangerous wild animal in North America (besides people) is the deer. They are more prone to attack humans than cats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duzitall
    Ryan burgers...blood rare Actually on Manswers the other night they said the most dangerous wild animal in North America (besides people) is the deer. They are more prone to attack humans than cats.
    Well if what you're saying is true, then i've been living very dangerously for a while now...trying to be friends with the deer around my job. Maybe I look like one of those wild animal people you're speaking of to them. ...If they only knew that deep down...I'm just a creampuff.
    ...But then I might be their desert entry!!! P.S.-maybe deer only eat vegetarians.
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    It's the zombies that worry me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChipV
    It's the zombies that worry me.
    zombie cats?
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    They say you should be skeptical about the stuff you read on the internets, so I think I'll be skeptical about this:

    the most dangerous wild animal in North America (besides people) is the deer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve
    They say you should be skeptical about the stuff you read on the internets, so I think I'll be skeptical about this:
    Perhaps that's best. That Manswers "deadly deer" info was relayed to me by my wife. She actually watched the show while I slept on the couch

    I thought if that fact is true maybe they are including human deaths or injuries cause by deer/car accidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zarr
    They may also see us as your screen name suggests.
    Yeah, and unfortunately I'm not fast food.

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    How funny that your wife watches Manswers! I catch my wife watching Spike occasionally too.

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    Who wants to go riding in Arizona near a water tank?

    Mountain Lions at Whit tanks.

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    Duzitall has it right. The reason deer kill more people than any other animal is because of cars hitting them. Say you are going down the road at about 50 mph, and a deer runs out in front of you and you hit it. That deer most likely will come through the windsheild into your face, leaving you dead or really screwed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kuhl
    Duzitall has it right. The reason deer kill more people than any other animal is because of cars hitting them. Say you are going down the road at about 50 mph, and a deer runs out in front of you and you hit it. That deer most likely will come through the windsheild into your face, leaving you dead or really screwed up.

    Best, John
    The deer sometime want to run WITH you!! I once came home from work one night driving very slowly. A deer came out on to the road and ran BESIDE my van like I was his buddy. He wanted to run WITH me!! I looked for him other nights, but I guess our schedules weren't the same. This is a TRUE Story. No joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaredama
    Who wants to go riding in Arizona near a water tank?

    Mountain Lions at Whit tanks.
    Those are incredible pics!

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    big cats are no joke...

    yep ive see tracks out by devils punch bowl above little rock and got some friends who live up there that seen a few ans one bear cub which means mama is not far behind.........so its tru be carfull. and oh yeah a few bob cats out by edwards too

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve
    They say you should be skeptical about the stuff you read on the internets, so I think I'll be skeptical about this:
    Actually it is probably true that deer are more dangerous.
    What they leave out is you die from hitting them with your car and having them smash through the windsheild into you at 70 MPH.
    I saw an interview with a lady back in GA who wasn't dead only because the deer was too large to fit through the windsheild easy. For the area it was a real monster.

    Saw the fellow who got mauled and managed to kill the cat as well. The biggest thing is he didn't give up and say 'Oh no I'm already dead!'

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    I love riding by myself, especially in the back country. I seriously hate post like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer
    Lots of local ordinaces that are pretty restrictive regarding blade length.
    Some of this is a bit dated but possibly useful:
    http://www.ninehundred.net/~equalccw/knifelaw.html
    http://www.zknives.com/knives/articl...nifelaws.shtml
    http://www.knifelawsonline.com/knifehome/
    http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USKnife.pdf
    Yeah, that's why I only ride alone with a 30-06 strapped over my shoulder. Really don't want to break any of those blade legnth or handgun laws!

    Relax about the kittys, attacks on HUMANS are extremely rare North of the O.C. We have a more passive strain of wild kitty up here. It's the Mexican strain of wild kitty that you want to watch out for and their territory's most Northern boundary is in the O.C.

    If you see one, say, "nice kitty" and move along...

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    Don't be sceptical about the deer fellas. A buck in rut will fvck up your program. A man here in So cal was killed in his own back yard by a large buck when he took an antler to the neck. Considering how plentiful they are the chances of encountering one is much greater than that of a Lion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandmangts
    Don't be sceptical about the deer fellas. A buck in rut will fvck up your program. A man here in So cal was killed in his own back yard by a large buck when he took an antler to the neck. Considering how plentiful they are the chances of encountering one is much greater than that of a Lion.
    True, any animal having a bad day can F you up. Back in my college days I cleaned pools and was bit in the ass by a customer's standard sized poodle. I rarely turned my back on that friggin thing, but I must have been a little lax and it got me when I squatted down to clean the skimmer basket. I swung around with my tile brush and connected with its face and we hated each other from that point forward. The same customers had 2 other poodles that were pretty cool - one of which wore diapers and was administered homeopathic remedies for kidney problems. Don't get me started on people and their dogs.

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    A list of all attacks since 2001.

    http://www.cougarinfo.org/attacks3.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by swede9
    A list of all attacks since 2001.

    http://www.cougarinfo.org/attacks3.htm
    Be sure to check the 'other incidents' page:
    http://www.cougarinfo.org/attackex.htm

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    A side note about Mountain Lions and large felines in general. If you can get a hold of some fresh Lion poop, put it in a few spots around the front yard of your house. The neighborhood dogs will NOT crap anywhere near your home! I found this out as my wife got the tip while working at place in Santa Clarita that had wild animals for the movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmalan
    A side note about Mountain Lions and large felines in general. If you can get a hold of some fresh Lion poop, put it in a few spots around the front yard of your house. The neighborhood dogs will NOT crap anywhere near your home! I found this out as my wife got the tip while working at place in Santa Clarita that had wild animals for the movies.

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    Pure brilliance! the most useful info ive heard in a while!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmalan
    A side note about Mountain Lions and large felines in general. If you can get a hold of some fresh Lion poop, put it in a few spots around the front yard of your house. The neighborhood dogs will NOT crap anywhere near your home! ...

    Bill
    Works well with keeping deer out of the garden as well. I remember reading a zoo somewhere even sold the stuff under the trade name "ZooDoo".

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    Quote Originally Posted by mealsonwheels
    They LOVE catnip, so I'd start there and see how things develop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kuhl
    Duzitall has it right. The reason deer kill more people than any other animal is because of cars hitting them. Say you are going down the road at about 50 mph, and a deer runs out in front of you and you hit it. That deer most likely will come through the windsheild into your face, leaving you dead or really screwed up.

    Best, John
    Actually deer hate the way SRAM drivetrains sound.....if you ride Shimano you should be fine... I read this in the Tribune last year..

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    i understand the laws but

    Quote Originally Posted by archer
    Lots of local ordinaces that are pretty restrictive regarding blade length.
    Some of this is a bit dated but possibly useful:
    http://www.ninehundred.net/~equalccw/knifelaw.html
    http://www.zknives.com/knives/articl...nifelaws.shtml
    http://www.knifelawsonline.com/knifehome/
    http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USKnife.pdf
    good point archer and im sure you were just being helpful. if a local officer want to search me from my truck to the trail head he better be quick and have his own ride. what cop wants to issue an ticket to an guy who is worried about cats? just think about the PR. i carry a sig fixed blade on my left shoulder strap and (mace) in my pack. i would rather have to explain my actions than be dead. i have had more trouble with humans than animals. mace works well for drunks. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by frikka
    My quick release lockon grip with 6 inch dagger attached fixes zombies.Pics of my trophy wall coming.
    Not enough standoff for zombies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karlmichael
    good point archer and im sure you were just being helpful. if a local officer want to search me from my truck to the trail head he better be quick and have his own ride. what cop wants to issue an ticket to an guy who is worried about cats? just think about the PR. i carry a sig fixed blade on my left shoulder strap and (mace) in my pack. i would rather have to explain my actions than be dead. i have had more trouble with humans than animals. mace works well for drunks. LOL

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    I'd rather be alive and in trouble than dead but if you can avoid giving the LEOs an excuse it is a good thing IMO. I hear quite a few stories about fishing expeditions and LEOs who throw charges that don't apply or who don't know the law well in the first place. Most of the stories come from other LEOs.

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    People always ask me if I carry a gun when I ride. I crack up at that one. If you have to reach for it, it's going to be too late. I don't think the cat will stand in front of you and wait for you to stop and get your preferred weapon. I think they are a little more stealth than that.

    And if I did carry a gun, I don't think I'd be that cool, calm, and collected to be able to get it with my head / neck in a mountain lion's mouth. My house cat shred's my hand and arm to ribbons when it play fights. I hate to think what a 150lb cat is going to do.

    I just ride and enjoy the time and scenery. I'm sure there are cats watching me. I just hope they're jealous that I'm riding and they're not.
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