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    Mammoth 2014

    Gondola starts running this weekend.
    Trail conditions are ALL TIME!
    Got 12 days in so far and the lower mountain is awesome.
    Currently lower Bullet, lower Tzone, Follow Me, Shotgun, Flow, Big Ring, Juniper, Lakes, Timber Ridge, Downtown are riding faster than I've seen since 2006.
    New paver berms and ramps are making for FAST runs,
    Pipeline is in great shape.
    Lower Flow is stupid fast with the new pavers, ramps, wallride.
    Follow Me is fcukin rad with the new ramps and pavers. Crazy fast if you're up for it.
    Super psyched to hit Off The Top, Beachcruiser, Mountain View.
    Supposedly this weekend brings Off The Top, Lower Shock, Kamikaze, Velocity, Chainsmoke, Twilight Zone.

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    I'm pissed I don't have more time to head up there until July. The one time I rode Follow Me late last season it seemed like they had made it much more technical for the Kamikaze Games.
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    Interesting. I heard they neutered the hell out of it. Can't wait to see it for myself!

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    I'm pissed I don't have more time to head up there until July. The one time I rode Follow Me late last season it seemed like they had made it much more technical for the Kamikaze Games.

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    Could be it was just beat up at the end of the season, but it's now listed as a "pro level" trail along with Chainsmoke etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    Could be it was just beat up at the end of the season, but it's now listed as a "pro level" trail along with Chainsmoke etc.
    Many of the turns have pavers now.
    With that addition, out went some of the old skool DH feel.
    The ramp/bridge over Paper Route helps to avoid collisions at the trail crossing. No need to slow to avoid hitting or getting hit there.
    Not a lot of riders were hitting the old corners at full speed.
    Now, many riders will find themselves going much faster through the corners and potentially heading in to the rocks and bomb holes at high speed.
    So, technically easier, but the increased speed changes the entire feel of the trail.
    Still plenty of rocks with steep and loose sections.
    Many riders will get a surprise to find that pavers don't transition to smooth trail but instead drop into rocks, brake holes, and the whooped out kitty litter that defines Mammoth.

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    good to hear.
    question, i have a very late season trip planned (weekend after labor day).
    park should all still be fully open (but chair 2 not running?)

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    Everything should be open and running that weekend.
    Near the end of the season, they've been shutting down 2 during the week but running it on weekends.

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    general trail question.....

    I haven't been up there in years (2000) but a group of us are heading up there this August. when I was last there I had my hardtail. I now have a Yeti SB-66 but I don't do big jumps or drops.

    How hard/terrifying are any of the double diamond runs if you aren't trying to set a land speed record and are a very skilled rider who simply doesn't air it out? I've ridden seven bridges on my HT in the past and that's listed as a single black diamond and I never thought any part of it was really that hard for me anyway. we're probably going to want to venture out on a few of the DH runs but none of us is going to want to do stupid drops or gaps.

    I see a bunch of trails that weren't there when i was last there but I've done all the trails like Big Ring, off the top, beach cruiser, downtown, paper route, etc.

    I'm ok with walking around something I know I can't complete so which of the double diamond trails are worth checking out? or do we just pick em at random when we're there and see what happens?

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    Flow, Pipeline and Twilight Zone will not be a huge leap if you are riding the single black diamond. I was just looking at the map this year and there are new defintions of trails where there are some double black with just a red trail and some with a red/black trail. My assumption is they are more of a true downhill trail.

    Upper Twilight is a skate park with pavers nearly the entire route. The lower section has the huge right bowl and left wall ride. There are a few drops that can be easily rolled if you don't want to charge them. Besides, you get to take recoil to it. If you like table tops and bermmed turns, you will love the entire run.

    Pipeline has blue and black wooden ramps/jumps. The blue jumps are bridged and the black have mandatory gaps. They are side by side the whole way down so you can choose your line.

    The only line that I have had problems with is upper shock treatment as there is a huge bolder you have to drop. Only rode that once and wound up climbing down it like a little kid. Most big drops/gaps have a go-around if you don't have the bike(or nerve) to hit it.

    Skid Marks will be a good ride. It will be like Nobel's stairway to hell and Baney Rubble all mixed into a 1 mile ride.

    Just ride an unknown trail cautiously the first time. You will be bombing most of it within one day.

    We will be up there for the July 4 week with the kids. They had a blast last year and I am looking forward to their progression this year. Even got my wife to say yes to riding. That will be interesting!
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    any idea if DC10 has been reworked? looked like they were doing a bunch of work to it end of last summer, curious if anybody's ridden it yet this year. May head up next weekend if everything is open.
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    2014 Map

    It doesn't have a legend but I think you get the idea of what was updated from last year.
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    DC10 is supposed to officially be open this season.
    Will be good to have that as an option again. No idea if it will see trail work or was just closed due to lift construction.
    Lots of small updates are ongoing-new ramps and pavers on Shotgun. Looks like the Shotgun log ride is no more after being closed most of last year.
    Lower Flow got a significant rework last season, but that portion of trail sees little traffic since most people now head to Pipeline after the drop.
    Skidmarks got cleaned up significantly last season.
    Bullet got a good cleaning and some pavers in preparation for last years races.
    Shock Treatment could use some attention.

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    They removed upper velocity from the map. Wtf? Can I still poach that without getting my season pass pulled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini2k05 View Post
    They removed upper velocity from the map. Wtf? Can I still poach that without getting my season pass pulled?
    Rehab and ongoing maintenance of that trail would siphon $$$ away from the Euro Bungy and summertime Burrito Cat experience.
    Besides, if the hike to the start of that trail didn't kill the average downhiller, the trail certainly would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Clydesdale View Post
    Rehab and ongoing maintenance of that trail would siphon $$$ away from the Euro Bungy and summertime Burrito Cat experience.
    Besides, if the hike to the start of that trail didn't kill the average downhiller, the trail certainly would.

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    Open trails are in great shape currently.
    For the XC Crowd- Off The Top, Mountain View, Beach Cruiser, Downtown, Uptown, Paper Route, Lakes, Timber Ridge, Juniper, Big Ring.
    DH/PARK- Velocity to Twilight Zone, Pipeline, Shotgun, Lower Flow, Lower Follow Me, Lower Bullet.
    No crowds yet.
    Next weekend or two should be good(minimal crowds) before the 4th of July holiday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Clydesdale View Post
    Open trails are in great shape currently.
    For the XC Crowd- Off The Top, Mountain View, Beach Cruiser, Downtown, Uptown, Paper Route, Lakes, Timber Ridge, Juniper, Big Ring.
    DH/PARK- Velocity to Twilight Zone, Pipeline, Shotgun, Lower Flow, Lower Follow Me, Lower Bullet.
    No crowds yet.
    Next weekend or two should be good(minimal crowds) before the 4th of July holiday.
    Thanks for posting for the XC crowd. Are those trails only available by paying for a pass and then riding the gondola?


    Does it get busy after the 4th of July?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teachndad View Post
    Thanks for posting for the XC crowd. Are those trails only available by paying for a pass and then riding the gondola??
    You can get a "pedal only" pass for $16 which gives you park access without the shuttle or gondola. All the XC trails other than off the top can be accessed without too much trouble from the Main Lodge or even from town if you don't mind the climbing and altitude.

    They also have a variety of "two-ride" and twilight ticket deals.
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    i poached dc10 on my last run of my trip last year, no reason it should of been closed.
    it was the same as always, mammoths most technical trail (steeps, chunk!)

    one section i always thought was getting sketchy was the exit of the wall ride on twilight (after the curved tube). there was some piece of metal sticking out right by the exit.

    ps. clyde, how is the pedal back to the village if one drops juniper at the end of the day? also, if one drops lower flow, is the best bet to take shotgun down to the village?

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    Minimal pedaling to get from Juniper to the Village if you take the cutoff to the town bike path (just after the paver section when you duck back into the trees near the end).
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    Rumor was, last year a trail worker was hurt quite bad while testing some sections of reworked DC-10. Had to be airlifted... therefore they left it closed.

    I can't stand the second wall ride on Twilight Zone. Have crashed off it a few times. Gives me anxiety thinking about it.

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    thanks, one more follow up. should i stay on juniper until after it crosses lake mary road or exit before that?
    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    Minimal pedaling to get from Juniper to the Village if you take the cutoff to the town bike path (just after the paver section when you duck back into the trees near the end).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dft View Post

    ps. clyde, how is the pedal back to the village if one drops juniper at the end of the day? also, if one drops lower flow, is the best bet to take shotgun down to the village?
    For Juniper, take the town bike path directly back to the shuttle stop at the Village. No pedaling required if you do this.
    Skip the lower section of Juniper that runs to Eagle lodge-it's pretty, but all the speed is gone by that point of the trail.

    For Flow, you are correct, Shotgun to the Village is the quickest. You can also do an easy pedal and catch Lower Bullet too.

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    Yeah stay on it past Lake Mary and hit all the paver berms. The turn off is just past the wooden posts you pass through, I think there's a sign. You end up on the town bike path along Lake Mary and it's basically all downhill back to the Village.

    Quote Originally Posted by robatki View Post
    I can't stand the second wall ride on Twilight Zone. Have crashed off it a few times. Gives me anxiety thinking about it.
    I've never been able to clean that either. Can't seem to get lined up for the wooden platform right after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dft View Post
    one section i always thought was getting sketchy was the exit of the wall ride on twilight (after the curved tube). there was some piece of metal sticking out right by the exit
    hated that metal thing, always thought i was going to get a front flat on it.
    nothing witty here...

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    Lots of good trails are now open.
    Gondola and Chair 11 are running.
    Never seen so many families and kids on the mountain before.
    It's great to see the kids on the lift accessed trails.

    DH/park:
    Flow
    Bullet
    Follow Me
    Chainsmoke
    Velocity to Twilight Zone
    Pipeline
    Shotgun
    White Bark(Lower Shock Treatment)
    Kamikaze

    XC:
    Off the Top
    Beach Cruiser
    Mt View
    Downtown/Uptown
    Brake Through
    7 Bridges
    Juniper/Timber/Lakes
    Paper Route Loop
    Discovery Zone

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    Any word on the last section of Richter? I heard it's been modified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    Any word on the last section of Richter? I heard it's been modified.
    Lots of construction there.
    Been looking at it for a week and still can't tell what the final feature will be.

    You can watch the work on the Mmth Cam.

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    Question...
    I'm looking at the bike park website and it has an option to buy your passes in advance for a (supposedly) lower price of $44.
    What is the cost of a full day pass if I buy it the day of when I'm there?

    My only concern is that you have to specify which day and I'm not 100% sure what day my son and I will go riding.

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    2014 day passes are $49

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Clydesdale View Post
    Lots of construction there.
    Been looking at it for a week and still can't tell what the final feature will be.

    You can watch the work on the Mmth Cam.
    I was up there last night and it looks like a lame boardwalk on that final section into a big paver berm. I thought they might try to put in a big drop like at whistler.
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    Also heads up-the bottom of twilight zone now goes into a right turning burm at the bottom of, what was, the last jump and goes into another smaller wall jump and two small tabletops.
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    Lower Velocity is finally getting rebuilt.
    Looks like a big left berm and some jumps after the last log jump/drop/roller. I wonder if they'll put pavers in the big loose turn above the log.

    The big boardwalk ramp on Richter is pretty cool. No reason to hit the brakes when coming out of the trees and it eliminates the blinding dust clouds from riders hitting their brakes before rolling in to the old chute. You can boost off both wood sections at full speed now.

    The only remaining old skool trail that hasn't seem much attention afaik is now upper Shock Treatment.

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    Anyone ridden remade DC-10 yet?
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    What's going on up at Mammoth the past few days, weather wise / trail wise? I know they've been getting some afternoon showers, and it looks like, from various web-cams the the air is pretty smoky (Yosemite, etc. fires).

    Got a group, coming from all directions, of about a dozen pulling into town this coming Thursday - Aug 14th.

    Any current weather / trail reports? Pictures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt View Post
    What's going on up at Mammoth the past few days, weather wise / trail wise? I know they've been getting some afternoon showers, and it looks like, from various web-cams the the air is pretty smoky (Yosemite, etc. fires).

    Got a group, coming from all directions, of about a dozen pulling into town this coming Thursday - Aug 14th.

    Any current weather / trail reports? Pictures?
    Was very smokey this past weekend, so much so that i left saturday night instead of riding sunday. Dirt conditions, however, were all time with the rain.

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    Anyone ridden remade DC-10 yet?
    rode it this past weekend, it's pretty sick, super gnarly section is still super gnarly, the rest has been completely rebuilt with plenty of jumps and steeps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt View Post
    Any current weather / trail reports? Pictures?
    It's day by day with the smoke. Saturday was like biking in Beijing. Sunday was much better; you could actually see mountains.


    In general expect the possibility of rain every afternoon, but it rarely comes down for more than an hour. But yeah the trails are in great shape with the moisture. Best place I know of to get updates: Mammoth Mountain Ski Area | Snow Report - Information & Mountain Weather


    Quote Originally Posted by 2w4s View Post
    rode it this past weekend, it's pretty sick, super gnarly section is still super gnarly, the rest has been completely rebuilt with plenty of jumps and steeps.
    Cool I'll give it a try next trip up.
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    2w4s / PerfectZero,

    Thanks for the replies. Crazy bad to hear of the smoke, though what you report is what I've been seeing on other sites (hiking, etc., Owens Valley, 395 stuff). I do hope things change for the better by this time (Thurs) next week. Watching rain come down via webcam right now! 395 Travel and Weather - Highway 395 Travel and Weather That too looks like it clears out, the afternoon showers, by mid next week.

    Again thanks to both for the reports. I'll post what I find, and some pix, once I'm up there.
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    I've been in Mammoth since Saturday chaperoning a high school xc team and riding when I can. So first we had smoke, then rain, then cold, wind, and at the summit freezing fog so thick I could barely see my son riding right in front of me. This morning dawned clear and warm, by late afternoon a spectacular thunderstorm rolled through. The trails have been great, not dusty.

    Bottom line- pack for every type of weather because conditions change quickly here and you won't find much warm gear in town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyDi View Post
    This morning dawned clear and warm, by late afternoon a spectacular thunderstorm rolled through. The trails have been great, not dusty.

    Bottom line- pack for every type of weather because conditions change quickly here and you won't find much warm gear in town.
    LadyDi, looking at the "cams" right now (10:15am Thursday the 7th). Sky looks blue and beautiful! And, from what I can see the "dirt" looks tasty. I'm sure if the afternoon showers dissipate, as expected over the next few days, by the time we get there a week from now things will be back to dry, but that's ok. We expect those conditions.

    Sounds like you and the team are having a great time!
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    Mammoth 2014

    Currently in Mammoth, been here since Wed and heading home tomorrow Sat. No more smoke issues. Weather warming up. T-storms each afternoon around 4:00. Today they shut down Gondola and both chairs just before 4:00 due to lightning up top. Not crowded at all. Trail crew working on a few landings around the park. Never went up top, one day Kamikaze was closed, as well as Richter. I prefer the lower half anyway. All in all a fun three days for me up here.
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    we were just up there this past weekend. rode friday and saturday. both days had nice blue skies AM that turned to cloudy thunderstorms in the PM. brief closures due to lightning but saturday wasn't bad. rains were brief and intermittent.

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    Up here until Sunday. Rained pretty good last night and the mountain was great this morning. Pretty windy though and they had lower Twilight shut down as they were doing something, not sure what. Scattered showers right now and still very windy. There was a bear today at Velocity, maybe he is a DH bear? Looking forward to the rest of the week. Then one last trip for the Kamikaze games.

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    Anyone heard anything about how late into the season they're going to be open? I'm hoping for a trip first week of Oct, but who knows this year.
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    Are Skid Marks and DC10 open yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GH28 View Post
    Are Skid Marks and DC10 open yet?
    Yes.
    DC-10 has officially been open for a few weeks.
    Skidmarks opened early season.
    Rebuilt Shock Treatment is supposed to open soon.

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    DC-10 was pretty sweet two weeks ago. They definitely did some work.

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    Most important update of all:

    Your bike park pass gets you $1 drafts at The Yodler.

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    Sure, now he tells me when I get home! I was sitting there yesterday looking at it but I would have never thought of it being I bought the Season pass back in April. Hope to be back up for the Kamikaze games!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragged edge racing View Post
    Sure, now he tells me when I get home! I was sitting there yesterday looking at it but I would have never thought of it being I bought the Season pass back in April. Hope to be back up for the Kamikaze games!
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    It was only 4 this time! I have to alternate every other day to keep the peace in the family. I will only end up with 9 days this year so I'm slacking. I tried to pick up another bike this time up but I guess I don't have the inside track. He wouldn't sell me a couple at this time and yet when we stopped at Toomey's for breakfast, I went up to ask one more time and he said they sold all the Elements to some guy?? They had to bring some down from the Adventure Center. Funny thing is I looked on Ebay just for giggles and there they are! The Mountain sold these for $350 a piece and they are on Ebay starting at $900. Capitalism at its' finest.

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    does anyone know, do they run chair 2 on fridays?
    i'm headed up thursday night, looking forward to it!

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    Yep.
    10-4 is the Friday schedule for Chair 2 if I remember correctly.

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    They do run Chair 2 on Fridays as said above. Also there is a local DH race series put on by one of the shops that is a ton of fun as well. No entry fees or anything and everyone wins swag and beer at the bottom!

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    Stuff closed on and off this week as they prep for the Kamikaze games. I imagine they'll have everything open for the weekend though.

    Man I don't think I saw a single person on the trails this morning. Pretty eerie after the crowds last weekend.
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    Labor Day is the huge drop off in traffic for Mammoth. Most kids are back in school and people are done vacationing for the summer.

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    I'm heading up Tuesday...woot...

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    Just rode yesterday. Trails were dryyyy and loose, but a storm rolled through this morning as we were leaving. Not sure how much rain there was around town, we hit some good rain down the 395.

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    Rode today. Dry, loose, dusty.

    My front wheel went way deep into the sand at the bottom of Shotgun...almost got tossed off.

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    I rode Juniper last week, came around what looked like a smooth corner, turned out to be 6" of dust into a huge rock. Thankfully I wasn't going terribly fast, landed right on my head, in more dust.
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    I'm was planning on riding there this Sunday-Tuesday and then going up to Tahoe for the rest of the week, but it's sounding like the trails are pretty beat. Should I skip Mammoth?

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    The trails are pretty beat, but I still have a lot of fun there! Tahoe is fun to though. . .
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    I'll be there next Friday for the Games. Doing some riding Saturday to get our last licks in before the park shut's down. Any official word as to that date? I get the Facebook notifications on the trails but nothing about when it will close.

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    9/21 is when the park officially closes.
    No word yet on whether or not Chair 2 will run on weekends for a few more weeks after that. They've extended chair 2 past the official close for a few seasons now.
    Trails are beat.
    Bomb holes everywhere.
    Contracting Pumice Lung is a definite possibility.
    NO CROWDS though.
    Lap after lap all to yourself since Labor Day.
    Wind is down. Blue skies.
    Mammoth is awesome right now.

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    Did Off the Top today. It was really sandy up there. Could have used a fat bike. Seven Bridges and Richocet were short...but fun.

    Weather is great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11053 View Post
    9/21 is when the park officially closes.
    No word yet on whether or not Chair 2 will run on weekends for a few more weeks after that. They've extended chair 2 past the official close for a few seasons now.
    Trails are beat.
    Bomb holes everywhere.
    Contracting Pumice Lung is a definite possibility.
    NO CROWDS though.
    Lap after lap all to yourself since Labor Day.
    Wind is down. Blue skies.
    Mammoth is awesome right now.
    Yeah, yeah...Rub it in. Blazing hot down here in the OC and a fire burning in Silverado Canyon. Looking out my back door at it. You can buy me a beer when I get up there, lol!

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