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    the lady on the white horse (if you ran into her you know what im talking about)

    Possibly the most miserable person in the world?

    makes no difference what I do, every time I get a mouthful from her. She has threatened me with cops, used the horse to try block my path (in a confrontational face off type setup), etc etc etc

    I also always tell her horse just left 30 lbs of sh1t back there, can she go pick it up.

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    could you be more general, where is this white horse? JPL?

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    Sounds like a hallucination to me.

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    "If you want to ride, don't ride the white horse."

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    santa monica mountains

    i wish it were an illusion

    I'd call her an angry old witch but she is actually kind of hot

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    Ah yes.. Grumpy horse ladies. There is one here in Orange County as well (Santiago Oaks). She (or one of her friends) even joined a forum to get into debates. I'll try to dig some threads up, comical.

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    Put a GoPro on your bike, somewhere where it would be hard to see and video the witch.

    Old and kinda hot?

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    Tell her camels don't belong on trails.

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    No I never said she was old.

    Okay I'll try go pro it hopefully I get a good one where she faces off against me with the beast and blocks my path.

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    Irresponsible Equestrian - Page 5

    Read 'rideandhikertrailgirl' posts. While I am all for sharing the trails some of the equestrian elites are a bit snobbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    santa monica mountains

    i wish it were an illusion

    I'd call her an angry old witch but she is actually kind of hot
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    No I never said she was old.

    Okay I'll try go pro it hopefully I get a good one where she faces off against me with the beast and blocks my path.
    Didn't see the I'd/but.
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    I used to see a guy on a white horse at Cheeseboro who was a dick. Maybe he had some work done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatcat View Post
    could you be more general, where is this white horse? JPL?
    There is a gal riding a horse on the connector trail from Altadena drive to the asphalt road leading to the ken burton fire road, El prato at night who caught me off guard. My son and I were descending down the poop laden trail for an evening ride when suddenly I heard someone yelling, "Say hello to my horse".

    It was pitch black, and she was climbing up the trail to Altadena drive. I wish her horse had a reflective vest of some sort or how about reflective clothing for the owner.

    I had to vent.

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    Death rides a white horse...
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    That blows. Just like any sport, there are bad participants. I ride after work in a City park a few miles from my house and it gets a lot of equestrian use. I slow, ask if they want me to stop or if their horses are okay with bikes. That usually does the trick. Last thing I want on a ride is to get kicked by a horse.

    The hardest part for me is when they are riding in the same direction and refuse to let me pass - very rarely happens, but when it does I find it really disrespectful. Next Spring when the park does initiation for new trail patrol personnel, I'm going to volunteer and ask what the proper protocol is in that case. I know we are supposed yield to horses, but there has to be some give in that case.

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    So far all of the horse people have seemed real nice. Ive only come across 1 group going the same direction and before I could finish my thought of "hmm how do i pass nicely" they moved over for me. What I find kinda funny are the people who literally jump off the trail into bushes as if i was a speeding train, when Im only doing 5 mph and warn them with my squeaky brakes 100ft away.
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    I also ran into a woman with a white horse pulling a buggy once.
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    Bring a Tazer out riding, taze the horse and then taze her, video it and post the footage in here...
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    Reminds me of this Amazing Horse (HD) - YouTube

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    I'm not sure that's appropriate here.

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    Doesn't the woman at Santiago Oaks also ride a white horse? I've only run into her once and she told me her horse would kick me if I tried to go by. I went by and didn't get kicked but gave her lots of room.

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    I saw her the other day. I rode up next to her and she said, "You shall not pass!" I was able to capture this picture of her on my gopro hero 2 HD though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Bring a Tazer out riding, taze the horse and then taze her, video it and post the footage in here...
    Didn't you have like 180 rep power the other day Tone's? Must have dropped some ultra heavy **** on the mods, the dems, republicans, lessos, drug users, arms dealers and TLJC??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Bring a Tazer out riding, taze the horse and then taze her, video it and post the footage in here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by longboarderj View Post
    Doesn't the woman at Santiago Oaks also ride a white horse? I've only run into her once and she told me her horse would kick me if I tried to go by. I went by and didn't get kicked but gave her lots of room.
    She sure does.. Here is a pic from the beginning of the thread I attached in my earlier post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnparadise View Post
    Didn't you have like 180 rep power the other day Tone's? Must have dropped some ultra heavy **** on the mods, the dems, republicans, lessos, drug users, arms dealers and TLJC??
    Yer, i was on 197, just about to crack the 200 when admin took about 100 of most of us over 100, poor AZ MTNS dropped from 250 to 150, it was the great rep rape of 2012, we were getting to big for them to handle, so in a North Korean move they decided to take rep from the rich n give it to the poor.
    Now it takes 200 points to move up a point, and we only have 5 reps a day, its a travisty of justice mate, and as soon as i get to 200 again they will pull the same move, oh well, alls fair in love n war, but it was great being able to give people an automatic 2 points for a while.
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    What is the deal with trying to get tons of rep? Is there a contest of some sort? Do you become better at climbing or descending with more rep on your MTBR account?


    I really hope the people talking about tazering a rider and their horse are kidding because that is great way to get arrested.....

    Though the idea of wearing a GoPro and recording any encounters one may have is a good one, especially if the MTB rider is polite and tries to do the right thing and the rider on horseback is being rude, threatening and disruptive, then you can provide some video evidence to the local rangers or whomever patrols those areas and let them handle it.
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    I contacted the Sheriffs and I'll be in that area in 1 hour.

    "watch out lady on white horse"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    What is the deal with trying to get tons of rep? Is there a contest of some sort? Do you become better at climbing or descending with more rep on your MTBR account?


    I really hope the people talking about tazering a rider and their horse are kidding because that is great way to get arrested.....

    Though the idea of wearing a GoPro and recording any encounters one may have is a good one, especially if the MTB rider is polite and tries to do the right thing and the rider on horseback is being rude, threatening and disruptive, then you can provide some video evidence to the local rangers or whomever patrols those areas and let them handle it.
    First of all you dont ask for rep, it just comes to you if you show humour, warmth, help others out, etc, and it can be a fun part of the board.

    Secondly, yes i was being serious about tazering the lady and the horse, dont you do that sort of stuff for fun?
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    I don't get it. Are horses always such nervous creatures or have they not been trained to be used to bikes?


    The horses in see literally go crazy when I ride anywhere near them.

    However horses have been in used in wars and gunfights and such? So they can't all be that nervous

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    I don't get it. Are horses always such nervous creatures or have they not been trained to be used to bikes?


    The horses in see literally go crazy when I ride anywhere near them.

    However horses have been in used in wars and gunfights and such? So they can't all be that nervous
    I train horses, part time for a living. Horses can be trained to be calm around just about anything. The problem is most people, like 95%, don't know how to train a horse properly or have an older horse that wasn't trained properly or was abused. And to train a horse properly from start to finish, takes a lot of time, which most people don't have. But, bottom line, if a person has a horse out in public that is acting up, the only one to blam is the owner. But when training a horse, you also have to push the envelope to get anywhere. We are lucky, in that we don't have to train the bikes that we ride.

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    This is a generalization!
    Horses are naturally nervous as they are prey animals. You can train it out of most of them.
    Horses will also sense their rider's nervousness and react to it.
    An inexperienced rider on a horse not used to mountain bikes can have a tough time controling their horse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail Ninja View Post
    This is a generalization!
    Horses are naturally nervous as they are prey animals. You can train it out of most of them.
    Horses will also sense their rider's nervousness and react to it.
    An inexperienced rider on a horse not used to mountain bikes can have a tough time controling their horse.
    Edit: I was typing while Shawn posted.
    What you said is pretty much true. You just have to figure, as a MTB rider that any horse you come across is going to be affraid of you and may do something stupid.

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    I like to see them (horses) out there, just like I like to see runners, hikers, wildlife, an so on. We happened upon some people who were unloading their equine from their trailer while on a ride this past weekend. We stopped and talked to them because they had massive draft type horses, 3 of them. One of them had never been out on a trail among other trail users and they were kind of nervous about it. I hope it went OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I train horses, part time for a living. Horses can be trained to be calm around just about anything. The problem is most people, like 95%, don't know how to train a horse properly or have an older horse that wasn't trained properly or was abused. And to train a horse properly from start to finish, takes a lot of time, which most people don't have. But, bottom line, if a person has a horse out in public that is acting up, the only one to blam is the owner. But when training a horse, you also have to push the envelope to get anywhere. We are lucky, in that we don't have to train the bikes that we ride.
    Quote Originally Posted by Trail Ninja View Post
    This is a generalization!
    Horses are naturally nervous as they are prey animals. You can train it out of most of them.
    Horses will also sense their rider's nervousness and react to it.
    An inexperienced rider on a horse not used to mountain bikes can have a tough time controling their horse.
    Edit: I was typing while Shawn posted.
    Growing up with horses I can attest to both of these statements.

    Also note that no matter how competent the rider, a horse that has not been trained properly with spook at shiny rocks no matter who is on their back.

    The topic of horses has been thoroughly discussed on these boards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    . . . But, bottom line, if a person has a horse out in public that is acting up, the only one to blame is the owner. . . .



    Same thing goes for dogs, etc. too . . . any domesticated animal for that matter that is brought into human contact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    ^ Remember your words, Mr. do owner.
    Hey, my do's are well behaved. Its my don'ts that get me in trouble
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
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    http://http://www.pinkbike.com/video/281816/

    Here is a video of this psychotic lady. Cross post on pinkbike about her. My wife had the pleasure of experiencing her today in the Sullivan Ridge area.

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    Fixed the link for you. Horse lady is at the end. Not that hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noish View Post
    http://http://www.pinkbike.com/video/281816/

    Here is a video of this psychotic lady. Cross post on pinkbike about her. My wife had the pleasure of experiencing her today in the Sullivan Ridge area.
    Gotta fix your link . . .

    I've not seen this woman before, though I HAVE seen her horse and am pretty sure I know where she lives . . . what was her complaint? I couldn't hear what she said in the very beginning, only that you could "go to jail" . . .
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    She said something about manslaughter. That was really shitty how she rode her horse toward him and turned around almost hitting him. I would have picked up my front end at her and the horse if she got that close to me.
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    Whoever posted the video played this way cool. I try to remember - this lady has to deal with her own shitty attitude 24 hours a day. Best not to get sucked into her downward spiral of a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Whoever posted the video played this way cool. I try to remember - this lady has to deal with her own shitty attitude 24 hours a day. Best not to get sucked into her downward spiral of a life.
    Agreed.
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    I wouldn't have said a word to her and just kept riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    She said something about manslaughter. That was really shitty how she rode her horses toward him and turned around almost hitting him. I would have picked up my front end at her and the horse if she got that close to me.
    Had to do this once before.. what a sh!tty ride that was still remember it 5 years later!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I wouldn't have said a word to her and just kept riding.

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    Don't think I've ever seen the woman or her horse luckily.

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    hahahahahaa

    so its my imagination eh?

    lol

    I dont even slow down anymore, I go past her at mach 4 while she yells something, usually it sounds like "cops" "manslaughter"

    etc etc

    and I give her the bird too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Yer, i was on 197, just about to crack the 200 when admin took about 100 of most of us over 100, poor AZ MTNS dropped from 250 to 150, it was the great rep rape of 2012, we were getting to big for them to handle, so in a North Korean move they decided to take rep from the rich n give it to the poor.
    Now it takes 200 points to move up a point, and we only have 5 reps a day, its a travisty of justice mate, and as soon as i get to 200 again they will pull the same move, oh well, alls fair in love n war, but it was great being able to give people an automatic 2 points for a while.
    Remind me again why rep matters.

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    This is weird, I've been riding in santa monica since 1999 and Santiago Oaks since 1989 and have never seen either of these ladies or their horses. Probably jinxed myslef and will get run over next ride by both of them riding together.
    nothing witty here...

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    One question, did the rider in the video ride on a trail that is marked horse only?
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    No, it is a multi use trail and MTBs can ride there whenever they want!

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    definitely multi use (100000%)

    doesn't slow her down at all, unless you get off you bike and get into a kneeling position with head bowed when she rides past you are going to get a mouthful

    you are most likely to run into her on the sullivan canyon fire road (you know the one the gas company keeps shutting down to work on the pipes). Almost always mid afternoon to early evening.

    Some of the other guys I know are now tail whipping the bikes at the horse when they go by. Starting to get all around ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I wouldn't have said a word to her and just kept riding.

    not that easy dude, sometimes she will physically will block you with the horse when she waits at the exits of things.

    Also you notice how she turned the horse around right by the bike in the video, within kicking range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    so its my imagination eh?
    lol careful dude, maybe she cast a spell on you!

    Do you always see her in the canyon or also up on the ridge? At least with the latest manhandling of the trails its easier to go around her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    lol careful dude, maybe she cast a spell on you!

    Do you always see her in the canyon or also up on the ridge? At least with the latest manhandling of the trails its easier to go around her.

    she rides from riviera ranch road area by sunset up horse trail, down queensferry, up sullivan canyon

    then goes back same way as far as I can tell.

    although sometimes (rarely) i see horse **** on jedi but not sure if its hers

    would pretty much suck bad if she was riding up squirrl and you come around a corner there, there is no ways the bike and the horse can fit, talk about a clusterf*ck if that happened.

    also if you slow you aint getting around her easy, she will block you while she cr*ps you out. You have to go fast so it will be a collision, then she will yell at you while you go by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
    No, it is a multi use trail and MTBs can ride there whenever they want!
    Got it, in that case do whatever you can to document her aggressiveness. Report her to the rangers EVERY SINGLE TIME she mouths off to you. If you get the broad on the officials radar when something bad happens you will have ammo against her in court. It is only a matter of time before her horse kicks somebody or she deliberately collides with someone and tries to get bikes banned. She looks like a Vandeman follower to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    would pretty much suck bad if she was riding up squirrl and you come around a corner there, there is no ways the bike and the horse can fit, talk about a clusterf*ck if that happened.
    god what a nightmare scenario. These days I'm mostly out there at night but I'll have to watch out for her.
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    She'll just get more aggressive. It's just a matter of time before she goes from really stupid, to really really stupid, and someone gets hurt. If I took that video, I wouldn't bother with the ranger, he/she can't do anything. I'd take it to the local sheriff or PD.

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    I know we were having problems with our own lady on a white horse in Orange County at Santiago Oaks, she is in the picture from earlier covering her face, and guys started to report her to the rangers and show them their videos (some showing her leaving the trails and riding in illegal areas), she was spoken to and has been somewhat calmer since, but still not pleasant.

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    Equestrians recognize GFYS! here in AZ. Do you not have that in CA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrwhlr View Post
    Equestrians recognize GFYS! here in AZ. Do you not have that in CA?
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    Somehow, I don't think that will make any difference.

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    yeah the equestrians here do recognize GFYS, if you watch the video, you can see she is dishing out lots of GFYS to anyone on a bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    yeah the equestrians here do recognize GFYS, if you watch the video, you can see she is dishing out lots of GFYS to anyone on a bike.
    Yes, but she's doing it wrong. This is a great example of how horseys and bikes can get along better:

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    lol before anyone clicks on old hektor, its definitely NSFW

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Fixed the link for you. Horse lady is at the end. Not that hot.

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    MAD PROPS to the rider filming that one, how on earth did he remain so calm and respectful?

    That Lady seems to have some serious issues to yell at someone who slowed down and stopped for her on the horse and basically obeyed the rules of a multiuse trail.

    I don't think I have ever run across such rude behavior in all my riding days.

    Is that last section of trail considered Multi-use? Because from what I could see on the video that trail was way to narrow to be safe on a horse with or without having to share it with hikers and bikers.....
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    the rider in that video is always like that I ride with him (not in that video) and that's just the way he is.

    yeah i dont know if horses are allowed up that single track just before you see the witch, even a horse and a hiker would have a really tough time passing each other, some parts very narrow with 20 foot dropoff.

    im so glad someone posted that video. Everything on the internet is exaggerated 10 times (even this is an exaggeration of my non exaggeration). But this time its not.

    Can't wait to run into her again, I'm going to post a good video, going to ask her if she knows she could be up for manslaughter if someone trying to dodge her horse poo on the trail wipes out and breaks their neck in doing so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    Can't wait to run into her again, I'm going to post a good video, going to ask her if she knows she could be up for manslaughter if someone trying to dodge her horse poo on the trail wipes out and breaks their neck in doing so.
    haha, no kidding right? That outta rile her up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    the rider in that video is always like that I ride with him (not in that video) and that's just the way he is.

    yeah i dont know if horses are allowed up that single track just before you see the witch, even a horse and a hiker would have a really tough time passing each other, some parts very narrow with 20 foot dropoff.

    im so glad someone posted that video. Everything on the internet is exaggerated 10 times (even this is an exaggeration of my non exaggeration). But this time its not.

    Can't wait to run into her again, I'm going to post a good video, going to ask her if she knows she could be up for manslaughter if someone trying to dodge her horse poo on the trail wipes out and breaks their neck in doing so.
    Please do and while your at it please be sure to ask her if her horse registration is up to date. I read recently that almost 80% of the horses in California are not properly registered. Ask to see her animals papers. You are well within your rights to do so to make sure her horse is properly vaccinated seeing as how it is pooping all over the place. Better yet next time she starts to lecture you just drop your shorts and pinch a loaf on the trail. If she gets upset just point out that her horse does it all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandmangts View Post
    Please do and while your at it please be sure to ask her if her horse registration is up to date. I read recently that almost 80% of the horses in California are not properly registered. Ask to see her animals papers. You are well within your rights to do so to make sure her horse is properly vaccinated seeing as how it is pooping all over the place. Better yet next time she starts to lecture you just drop your shorts and pinch a loaf on the trail. If she gets upset just point out that her horse does it all the time.
    I'm pretty sure horses don't have to be registered anywhere. The only time people register horses is with a certain group, like if there horses is a pure bred, then it would be registered with that breeds official organization.

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    As far as I can find (google) you only need to register for sales and shows, not to ride in public:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I'm pretty sure horses don't have to be registered anywhere. The only time people register horses is with a certain group, like if there horses is a pure bred, then it would be registered with that breeds official organization.
    There is a requirement for an equine license in the city of Los Angeles. Municipal code Section 53.15.1. There may be others, but I didn't do a thorough search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noish View Post
    http://http://www.pinkbike.com/video/281816/

    Here is a video of this psychotic lady. Cross post on pinkbike about her. My wife had the pleasure of experiencing her today in the Sullivan Ridge area.
    Unbelievable - that trail looks AWESOME but I couldn't believe the lady. I'm cool & calm, and a nice person in general (especially if i'm enjoying nature on my day off) but if this lady would have said anything like this to me, I probably would have said something mean. I don't have any patience for ignorant BS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    There is a requirement for an equine license in the city of Los Angeles.
    Doesn't surprise me, Los Angeles is serious Business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
    Doesn't surprise me, Los Angeles is serious Business.
    Well I'm not sure how "serious" they are when the license is $14 and the "fine" for non-compliance is $5

    Though I wager that as with dogs, there are requirements for proof of vaccination, etc. which may get costly.
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    the game city of LA plays is they never notify you of anything

    they will claim you should have received X twice by mail (which you don't) and by that point you are with collections. So it will be $5 + $100 something in other fees by then.

    awesome.

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    Fyi my wife (she rides a singlespeed black cat) saw the lady on a white horse after she hit a recreational biker (ie 1980's trek with goofy bar ends) on the paved part of sullivan fire road just after the first gate before the haunted house. For some reason they painted an outline of the victim on the road. There was an ambulance there and the guy just had skinned up knees. Anyone know more about this incident? Was probably in October or November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noish View Post
    Fyi my wife (she rides a singlespeed black cat) saw the lady on a white horse after she hit a recreational biker (ie 1980's trek with goofy bar ends) on the paved part of sullivan fire road just after the first gate before the haunted house. For some reason they painted an outline of the victim on the road. There was an ambulance there and the guy just had skinned up knees. Anyone know more about this incident? Was probably in October or November.
    Wait, you are saying that the woman on the horse hit the biker?

    I do recall a few months ago that a cyclist was hit by a car on sullivan ridge . . . might that be the same incident? It wasn't that long ago.
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    Thanks for the heads-up. I can't wait to have the pleasure of meeting her.

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    to go to jail. Last but not least, some day she
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    LMFAO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    Wait, you are saying that the woman on the horse hit the biker?

    I do recall a few months ago that a cyclist was hit by a car on sullivan ridge . . . might that be the same incident? It wasn't that long ago.

    Yeah i would like to know more about this as well....
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    First, wait... there's a haunted house on the ridge?

    Second, I can't imagine running into a horse on Squirrel Cage... I ran into some bikers coming up (do people actually ascend Squirrel Cage btw?) as I was descending last week and had to hike-a-bike around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    First, wait... there's a haunted house on the ridge?

    Second, I can't imagine running into a horse on Squirrel Cage... I ran into some bikers coming up (do people actually ascend Squirrel Cage btw?) as I was descending last week and had to hike-a-bike around them.
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    And I think most folks head down squirrel cage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    The old Nazi camp. Here's the entrance:


    And I think most folks head down squirrel cage.
    Ahh, I heard about this. How did I miss it on Sullivan Ridge though? So if I'm coming down from above, say from Jedi or the fire road, is this before Squirrel Cage or after?

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    Coming down the ridge, its way after . . . its closer to the bottom. If you were taking the ridge down and dumped into the canyon via Squirrel Cage, you'd miss this.
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    I've ridden over there lots of time, and even though I haven't seen the crazy horse woman, there is a similarly moronic woman that takes her guard dogs for walks along the entrance road to that fire trail from Capri --> Sullivan Canyon Fire Road.

    She purposefully let her dogs slip on the leash as I was riding by, and they almost took my leg off.

    So, FYI, if you see two german shepherds on a leash with some ditzy looking blonde 50'ish woman, don't call out and say that you're going to pass by. Just find another way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandSpeed View Post
    She purposefully let her dogs slip on the leash as I was riding by, and they almost took my leg off.
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    Saw the crazy lady on the white horse again. She was on the steep paved road coming up out of sullivan canyon. Again, paved road, 40 feet wide. She was super nervous and could hardly control her horse as I rode around about 30 feet from her, slowly climbing the hill. I think she is truly a public danger - either she does not have the skills to control her horse or her horse does not belong on public trails. Either way she does not belong out there, and with the amount of use that trail gets, it's only a matter of time until she hits someone again.

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    Gawd I'm so tired of all the mentally disturbed people wandering around Sulli...
    Some woman with her dog on Horse trail the other day began yelling the usual 'trespassing...kill somebody' stuff at me. Questions like "If its private property, why are you here? Why are the property fences on either side of the trail? Why is there no fence/gate/sign at the entrance to keep people out?" all met with zero response, just more ranting about me killing somebody.
    I told her I'd been riding 15 years & had never hurt/hit anyone, although I had been bitten several times by off-leash dogs, just like hers was.
    I don't think she heard a word I said. Just kept spewing her BS in a VERY antagonistic way. Like someone else said, sooner or later one of these nut-bags is gonna mess with the wrong person and its not going to be pretty. And I for one will have a very hard time feeling sorry for them when that happens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bbbrad View Post
    Gawd I'm so tired of all the mentally disturbed people wandering around Sulli...
    Some woman with her dog on Horse trail the other day began yelling the usual 'trespassing...kill somebody' stuff at me. Questions like "If its private property, why are you here? Why are the property fences on either side of the trail? Why is there no fence/gate/sign at the entrance to keep people out?" all met with zero response, just more ranting about me killing somebody.
    I told her I'd been riding 15 years & had never hurt/hit anyone, although I had been bitten several times by off-leash dogs, just like hers was.
    I don't think she heard a word I said. Just kept spewing her BS in a VERY antagonistic way. Like someone else said, sooner or later one of these nut-bags is gonna mess with the wrong person and its not going to be pretty. And I for one will have a very hard time feeling sorry for them when that happens...
    This is pretty much why I'll only ride Sulli Canyon and HT at night anymore . . . that and its a whole lot more fun to bomb down the canyon at max speed
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    This is pretty much why I'll only ride Sulli Canyon and HT at night anymore . . . that and its a whole lot more fun to bomb down the canyon at max speed
    Don't let these loons keep you off the trail. The point in them acting like that is to make you not want to be there. The best thing you can do is act like you don't notice them and keep riding. At the very most, give them the single finger international peace sign, don't say anything and keep riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Don't let these loons keep you off the trail. The point in them acting like that is to make you not want to be there. The best thing you can do is act like you don't notice them and keep riding. At the very most, give them the single finger international peace sign, don't say anything and keep riding.

    haha love it, the single finger coalition. it's about time santa monica area bikers started proactively fighting for our right to party, it seems like every other riding community has an organization to handle and mitigate some of the issues we have. before moving to santa monica i lived in aliso viejo and the riding community there was instrumental in getting trails opened, doing trail maintenance, and basically handling trail conflicts.
    nothing witty here...

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