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    I know this thread is old, but every time she threatens you or takes aggressive action w/ her horse she needs to be reported to the rangers. The video is perfect evidence to start this process. If the rangers receive enough complaints she will absolutely get a visit from them for harassing and endangering mountain bikers on a multi-use trail.

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    Stay tuned, there has been (July 4, 2013) some major action regarding this women, horses (BTW, she does not own the white horse), the LAPD and a physical "battery" along with a life threatening verbal threat made against a cyclist, all witnessed by other (non-cyclists) trail users as well as video of the incident(s) I can not say more at the moment, because this is only two days old, and the LAPD detectives have just begun their investigation. But, I promise to post more once I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt View Post
    Stay tuned, there has been (July 4, 2013) some major action regarding this women, horses (BTW, she does not own the white horse), the LAPD and a physical "battery" along with a life threatening verbal threat made against a cyclist, all witnessed by other (non-cyclists) trail users as well as video of the incident(s) I can not say more at the moment, because this is only two days old, and the LAPD detectives have just begun their investigation. But, I promise to post more once I can.
    Interesting. She gave me a hard time last Sunday right at the bottom of squirrel cage.

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    Again, I can't say any more, as the LAPD has the link to this thread, and I am involved in the case. But I wanted others that ride in this area to know that things really came to a head on Thurs. The best outcome is that this woman is barred from trails in the SM's, and that she gets the help that she obviously needs. I do promise to post more when I feel I legally can.
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    It kinda figgers that she would lose it on July 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    She'll just get more aggressive. It's just a matter of time before she goes from really stupid, to really really stupid, and someone gets hurt. If I took that video, I wouldn't bother with the ranger, he/she can't do anything. I'd take it to the local sheriff or PD.
    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt View Post
    Again, I can't say any more, as the LAPD has the link to this thread, and I am involved in the case. But I wanted others that ride in this area to know that things really came to a head on Thurs. The best outcome is that this woman is barred from trails in the SM's, and that she gets the help that she obviously needs. I do promise to post more when I feel I legally can.

    I'm surprised it took this long. The best outcome would be spending some time behind bars and getting some help.

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    Wow is this true?

    Judge should give her a shovel + wheelbarrow to clean hs from SM trails

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerhill View Post
    Wow is this true?

    Judge should give her a shovel + wheelbarrow to clean hs from SM trails
    I doubt if the Judge will impose such a demeaning penalty on her. After all, she is a member of a Higher Class of citizen than the bicycle riding trash....Judges tend to take one's Station in life in account when they mete out "justice".

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    She might get what she deserves this time if not more, threatening somebody's life from horseback and actual battery.. Would the horse be considered a deadly weapon similar to threatening somebody from an automobile?

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    We rode through "her territory" the weekend before last but we did not see her.

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    The best result would be if she was tied between 4 draught horses and had her arms and legs pulled off in front of heaps of mountain bikers that have donated to charity to watch he being de-limbed.
    Id travel to the states for that for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    The best result would be if she was tied between 4 draught horses and had her arms and legs pulled off in front of heaps of mountain bikers that have donated to charity to watch he being de-limbed.
    Id travel to the states for that for sure.
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    People like this are too stupid to learn. Once she has a case on her, next incident, absent any other witnesses, she'll be assumed to be the aggressor.
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    This is a great reminder for everybody that rides in "hostile territory" to bring along a camera/cell phone to catch kooks in the act.

    I hope that chick gets smited. Smited hard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtvert View Post
    This is a great reminder for everybody that rides in "hostile territory" to bring along a camera/cell phone to catch kooks in the act.

    I hope that chick gets smited.
    Smited is such a great term. Holy Retribution indeed.

    And yes, always having a device to record interactions is a good idea.
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    I can't wait to hear how this turns out . . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I can't wait to hear how this turns out . . . .
    Was that her that we passed going down the pavement on the left? Remember that lady with a white horse in the stable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Was that her that we passed going down the pavement on the left? Remember that lady with a white horse in the stable?
    I believe so, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I believe so, yes.
    Wasn't she kinda hawt looking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Wasn't she kinda hawt looking?
    Maybe if you like turtles she is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Maybe if you like turtles she is?
    That must be it. I guess she reminded me of a turtle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt View Post
    Stay tuned, there has been (July 4, 2013) some major action regarding this women, horses (BTW, she does not own the white horse), the LAPD and a physical "battery" along with a life threatening verbal threat made against a cyclist, all witnessed by other (non-cyclists) trail users as well as video of the incident(s) I can not say more at the moment, because this is only two days old, and the LAPD detectives have just begun their investigation. But, I promise to post more once I can.
    I'm pretty sure I saw part of this. My friend and I had just come down into Sullivan Canyon from Squirrel Cage when some hikers heading from further up the canyon told us about some confrontation happening between two bikers and a lady on a horse. It was a pretty busy time (around noonish) with lots of other trail users, mostly hikers.

    Next thing I know, there is a ton of commotion coming from up the canyon. Some woman was on a white horse and also had another horse (brown I think) with her, at a full gallop, chasing down two bikers. That lady is crazy in a Lindsay Lohan way -- maybe kind of hot, but you really don't want to be around her. Her eyes were bulging out of her head, and she kept goading the horses on, screaming at the top of her lungs, "HHOOOOO! HOOOOOOOO! HOOOOOOO!" over and over again.

    My friend and I jumped off the trail as fast as we could, and pretty much ended up in the bushes. One of the hikers near us immediately tried calling 911, but could not get reception. Fortunately, it sounds like someone else was able to get in touch with the police.

    Afterwards, we spoke with a couple of other hikers and we got snippets of what happened. I still don't really know what the precipitating events were, but trying to run down bikers with two horses while endangering everyone else on the trail (like I said, it was a busy day) was probably uncalled for. I'm thinking maybe if those bikers cut out the heart of the woman's puppy in front of her, then it might be okay to do what she did.

    As for those two riders - whoever you are, you looked like you were keeping your cool. I don't know if I would have been as calm with two horses chasing me. You guys definitely looked liked you were handling the situation as well as possible.

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    Dear Peons,

    I would like to apologize for almost trampling ya'll, but gluestix (that's my horsie) and me just watched the preview special screening of the Lone Ranger!

    Next thing you know, we are in this canyon full of colorful targets, and well, the rest is history.

    PS thank you for all the debates we have had over the last few months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyonwhitehorse View Post
    Dear Peons,

    I would like to apologize for almost trampling ya'll, but gluestix (that's my horsie) and me just watched the preview special screening of the Lone Ranger!

    Next thing you know, we are in this canyon full of colorful targets, and well, the rest is history.

    PS thank you for all the debates we have had over the last few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Mango View Post
    I'm pretty sure I saw part of this. My friend and I had just come down into Sullivan Canyon from Squirrel Cage when some hikers heading from further up the canyon told us about some confrontation happening between two bikers and a lady on a horse. It was a pretty busy time (around noonish) with lots of other trail users, mostly hikers.

    Next thing I know, there is a ton of commotion coming from up the canyon. Some woman was on a white horse and also had another horse (brown I think) with her, at a full gallop, chasing down two bikers. That lady is crazy in a Lindsay Lohan way -- maybe kind of hot, but you really don't want to be around her. Her eyes were bulging out of her head, and she kept goading the horses on, screaming at the top of her lungs, "HHOOOOO! HOOOOOOOO! HOOOOOOO!" over and over again.

    My friend and I jumped off the trail as fast as we could, and pretty much ended up in the bushes. One of the hikers near us immediately tried calling 911, but could not get reception. Fortunately, it sounds like someone else was able to get in touch with the police.

    Afterwards, we spoke with a couple of other hikers and we got snippets of what happened. I still don't really know what the precipitating events were, but trying to run down bikers with two horses while endangering everyone else on the trail (like I said, it was a busy day) was probably uncalled for. I'm thinking maybe if those bikers cut out the heart of the woman's puppy in front of her, then it might be okay to do what she did.

    As for those two riders - whoever you are, you looked like you were keeping your cool. I don't know if I would have been as calm with two horses chasing me. You guys definitely looked liked you were handling the situation as well as possible.
    good night! That is crazy, she obviously has no care whether or not her and her 1 ton pets trample someone to death, hiker or biker.... I wonder if they can charge someone with Assault with a Deadly weapon for that kind of action?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    good night! That is crazy, she obviously has no care whether or not her and her 1 ton pets trample someone to death, hiker or biker.... I wonder if they can charge someone with Assault with a Deadly weapon for that kind of action?
    'Betcher boots they can. What else would they call it......"Misbehavior of the Privileged"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyonwhitehorse View Post
    Dear Peons,

    I would like to apologize for almost trampling ya'll, but gluestix (that's my horsie) and me just watched the preview special screening of the Lone Ranger!

    Next thing you know, we are in this canyon full of colorful targets, and well, the rest is history.

    PS thank you for all the debates we have had over the last few months.
    aha

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    Not a horse but some dog came full tilt at me when I came out of a trail on to another trail this morning. Lady sitting on a big rock with her dog says; "watch out", dog jukes left, then goes to the right of me. I look over at her and she says, "not my dog" as the dog proceeds it's sprint out of site. No idea who the dog belonged to or why it was in such a hurry.

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    this ever go anywhere?

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    i can tell you I have not seen her on the trail in weeks

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    Well (anything come of this?), I can tell you, the incidents one month "anniversary" is tomorrow Aug 4th. And, with nothing from the DA, not a courtesy phone call or email, I still feel that I can not post any of the evidence, etc. Come Monday I will re-contact the LAPD Detective I met with at the WLA station now three weeks ago to see where things stand. I realize the "wheels of justice" turn mighty slow, but I would think in nearly a months time someone from the Districts Attorneys office would have at least confirmed that they have the report, my evidence, and my desire to pursue legal action against this person, but no. The Detective did indicated that he would pass the info along, and did feel that based on the evidence (my verbal, written, photographic, and video evidence, along with a verbal report from at least 6 others of the horse riders actions that day) the DA would be interested in some action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Salt View Post
    Well (anything come of this?), I can tell you, the incidents one month "anniversary" is tomorrow Aug 4th. And, with nothing from the DA, not a courtesy phone call or email, I still feel that I can not post any of the evidence, etc. Come Monday I will re-contact the LAPD Detective I met with at the WLA station now three weeks ago to see where things stand. I realize the "wheels of justice" turn mighty slow, but I would think in nearly a months time someone from the Districts Attorneys office would have at least confirmed that they have the report, my evidence, and my desire to pursue legal action against this person, but no. The Detective did indicated that he would pass the info along, and did feel that based on the evidence (my verbal, written, photographic, and video evidence, along with a verbal report from at least 6 others of the horse riders actions that day) the DA would be interested in some action.
    Good luck. LAPD is worthless. The best way to get them interested is to find an angle where they can generate some money. Maybe her horse is missing some sort of license or registration and they can fine her for that. The monetary gain vs. the actual work they would have to do for arresting someone assaulting a biker is not worth their time. You're not in the hospital, so they can avoid having to do anything. I'm moving soon and glad to be out.

    (Edit: So no one takes this the wrong way, I'm not blaming any policeman, it's the local governments priorities/culture. Based on what everyone has said about this lady I hope I'm wrong and something is done about her.)
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    Again, I feel it is not right (or even legal?) to post much, but I will say I've met with the City Attorneys office mid August. Since that meeting I've been told that "the horse lady" and her "attorney" will be present at a hearing with the City Attorney, but that a date has not been scheduled.

    The wheels of justice sure do turn slowly, its now coming up on 2 months since the incident.
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    Is she allowed back on the trails? Has anyone seen her?

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    the wicked witch is gone.

    still could not believe a lady riding alone in the wilderness would have the audacity to talk to people like that.

    some of the countries I have lived in, bad bad things would have happened her (in those places even if she was a nice lady, still just is not safe for a lady to go wandering around the wilderness like that - but talking to people like that? blew my mind).

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    Never seen her, usually out there in the AM. The most sound advice that has been said here is to not say anything and move on.

    Do I care if someone is pissed at me?

    No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    Am I out there to set the record straight?

    No. No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    Are we going to all come together in some hippie tra-la-la nonsense?

    No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    I've been in confrontations with horse people, runners, hikers, and other bikers. Just the other week I was told to slow down by another cyclist. You want understanding, sure we all do, but it is simply not worth your time. Just get upset over something that you can't control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rev106 View Post
    Never seen her, usually out there in the AM. The most sound advice that has been said here is to not say anything and move on.

    Do I care if someone is pissed at me?

    No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    Am I out there to set the record straight?

    No. No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    Are we going to all come together in some hippie tra-la-la nonsense?

    No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    I've been in confrontations with horse people, runners, hikers, and other bikers. Just the other week I was told to slow down by another cyclist. You want understanding, sure we all do, but it is simply not worth your time. Just get upset over something that you can't control.
    So what you're saying is that only your experience counts? Nice. And this is why people organize and complain about mountain bikers and trail access gets threatened. You might want to think a little bit about the consequences of your actions.

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    the lady on the white horse (if you ran into her you know what im talking about)

    Quote Originally Posted by rev106 View Post
    Never seen her, usually out there in the AM. The most sound advice that has been said here is to not say anything and move on.

    Do I care if someone is pissed at me?

    No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    Am I out there to set the record straight?

    No. No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    Are we going to all come together in some hippie tra-la-la nonsense?

    No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    I've been in confrontations with horse people, runners, hikers, and other bikers. Just the other week I was told to slow down by another cyclist. You want understanding, sure we all do, but it is simply not worth your time. Just get upset over something that you can't control.
    I don't know you, per se, but I imagine this is very much the worldview of a complete and utter a-hole.

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    NO tard face, that is not what I meant, but you can read it that way if you want. I'm not out there to change anyone's mind. I'm not on a crusade, in fact the less people on trails the better, this includes other cyclists. People will not like what you do even if you're being nice as was seen and viewed in the video that was posted. So don't bother. And thanks "dad" I've given it a lot of thought and I'm not doing anything wrong (was that implied? no.), not looking for a confrontation with this lady like some people on here espoused to be doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2TurnersNotEnough View Post
    So what you're saying is that only your experience counts? Nice. And this is why people organize and complain about mountain bikers and trail access gets threatened. You might want to think a little bit about the consequences of your actions.
    Where did you get that from? Like he said, the best thing to do is absolutely nothing and just go about your riding. These types of people are looking to get a rise out of you. It really chaps their ass when you just ignore them. And there's nothing better then chapin' some dumb ass when you have done nothing wrong. It's one of life's simple pleasures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rev106 View Post
    Do I care if someone is pissed at me?

    No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    Am I out there to set the record straight?

    No. No. I'm having fun riding my bike.

    Are we going to all come together in some hippie tra-la-la nonsense?

    No. I'm having fun riding my bike.
    lol nice little jingle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Where did you get that from? Like he said, the best thing to do is absolutely nothing and just go about your riding. These types of people are looking to get a rise out of you. It really chaps their ass when you just ignore them. And there's nothing better then chapin' some dumb ass when you have done nothing wrong. It's one of life's simple pleasures!
    It really is nice when you can afford the luxury of ignoring them. But that luxury disappears when you find out that those same haters have gotten some serious leverage over the authorities who control access to the trails you ride, while your'e just ignoring them. When they close those trails to bikes, and armed rangers begin ticketing you, do you just ignore them, too?

    That's when the reality hits you square in the face, and I don't think that you or anybody else here would be able to 'just ignore them'.
    In case you hadn't guessed, once those people whose threats you just ignored have succeeded in getting you banned from using the trails, it ain't that easy to get them opened back up again.

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    In case you haven't read the thread, we aren't talking about people who are getting us banned from the trails. We are talking, here, about one crazy ass ***** on a horse.

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    There was a time if you had an automobile you had to pull over and shut it down for the horse to pass. As in this old law from Pennsylvania. " If a motorist sees a horse coming down the road, the driver must pull off to the side of the road and cover the vehicle with canvas. If the horse is still scared the driver must get out of his car and take it apart until the horse isn't scared any more."

    Can you imagine that?!?! Lol fortunately here in CT where I live we don't see to many horses on the trails but we do see dogs that will give chase cause their owner feels the dog should be free. Went hiking yesterday with the GF cause she doesn't ride a bike and we came face to face with a very agitated Akita . Luckily the owner wasn't too far behind cause I'd of shot it if it attacked me or the GF
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    In case you haven't read the thread, we aren't talking about people who are getting us banned from the trails. We are talking, here, about one crazy ass ***** on a horse.
    My bad. In my case, I tend to assume that crazy ass **** on horses are also the usual suspects behind getting bikes banned from trails, when they're not busy being crazy-assed *****. It's certainly the case where I live and ride.

    Do you assume that they are not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    In case you haven't read the thread, we aren't talking about people who are getting us banned from the trails. We are talking, here, about one crazy ass ***** on a horse.
    I can't believe I'm going to say this (and it pains me to do so) . . . but I agree with MCS. This thread is not the place to debate trail access issues. This thread is about a lunatic on a horse.

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    My bad. In my case, I tend to assume that crazy ass **** on horses are also the usual suspects behind getting bikes banned from trails, when they're not busy being crazy-assed *****. It's certainly the case where I live and ride.

    Do you assume that they are not?
    I DO agree with you that these are the same people who are often involved with revoking trail access to user-groups such as bikers. However, thats not what's happening in this thread, and I've never heard any such notion mentioned that this is a possibility in Sullivan.

    Lets ALSO remember what El Salt has said about the investigation . . . a) its on going and b) the authorities have a link to this thread. Whether or not they use the information is beyond me. But lets not derail this thread and get carried away from the main point - which is keeping unstable people off the trails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I can't believe I'm going to say this (and it pains me to do so) . . . but I agree with MCS. This thread is not the place to debate trail access issues. This thread is about a lunatic on a horse.



    I DO agree with you that these are the same people who are often involved with revoking trail access to user-groups such as bikers. However, thats not what's happening in this thread, and I've never heard any such notion mentioned that this is a possibility in Sullivan.

    Lets ALSO remember what El Salt has said about the investigation . . . a) its on going and b) the authorities have a link to this thread. Whether or not they use the information is beyond me. But lets not derail this thread and get carried away from the main point - which is keeping unstable people off the trails.
    OK, I get your points, guys. I have a tendency to conflate one thing with another. Not quite paranoia, but close......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Raton View Post
    My bad. In my case, I tend to assume that crazy ass **** on horses are also the usual suspects behind getting bikes banned from trails, when they're not busy being crazy-assed *****. It's certainly the case where I live and ride.

    Do you assume that they are not?
    Not in this case, but I see your point.

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