• 01-06-2013
    PerfectZero
    Don't think I've ever seen the woman or her horse luckily.

    ugggh those legs...haunting.
  • 01-06-2013
    jasonjm
    hahahahahaa

    so its my imagination eh?

    lol

    I dont even slow down anymore, I go past her at mach 4 while she yells something, usually it sounds like "cops" "manslaughter"

    etc etc

    and I give her the bird too
  • 01-06-2013
    whoda*huck
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Yer, i was on 197, just about to crack the 200 when admin took about 100 of most of us over 100, poor AZ MTNS dropped from 250 to 150, it was the great rep rape of 2012, we were getting to big for them to handle, so in a North Korean move they decided to take rep from the rich n give it to the poor. :madman:
    Now it takes 200 points to move up a point, and we only have 5 reps a day, its a travisty of justice mate, and as soon as i get to 200 again they will pull the same move, oh well, alls fair in love n war, but it was great being able to give people an automatic 2 points for a while.

    Remind me again why rep matters. :confused:
  • 01-06-2013
    2w4s
    This is weird, I've been riding in santa monica since 1999 and Santiago Oaks since 1989 and have never seen either of these ladies or their horses. Probably jinxed myslef and will get run over next ride by both of them riding together.
  • 01-06-2013
    Econoline
  • 01-06-2013
    sandmangts
    One question, did the rider in the video ride on a trail that is marked horse only?
  • 01-06-2013
    jackbombay
    No, it is a multi use trail and MTBs can ride there whenever they want!
  • 01-06-2013
    jasonjm
    definitely multi use (100000%)

    doesn't slow her down at all, unless you get off you bike and get into a kneeling position with head bowed when she rides past you are going to get a mouthful

    you are most likely to run into her on the sullivan canyon fire road (you know the one the gas company keeps shutting down to work on the pipes). Almost always mid afternoon to early evening.

    Some of the other guys I know are now tail whipping the bikes at the horse when they go by. Starting to get all around ugly.
  • 01-06-2013
    jasonjm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I wouldn't have said a word to her and just kept riding.


    not that easy dude, sometimes she will physically will block you with the horse when she waits at the exits of things.

    Also you notice how she turned the horse around right by the bike in the video, within kicking range.
  • 01-06-2013
    PerfectZero
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    so its my imagination eh?

    lol careful dude, maybe she cast a spell on you!

    Do you always see her in the canyon or also up on the ridge? At least with the latest manhandling of the trails its easier to go around her.
  • 01-06-2013
    jasonjm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    lol careful dude, maybe she cast a spell on you!

    Do you always see her in the canyon or also up on the ridge? At least with the latest manhandling of the trails its easier to go around her.


    she rides from riviera ranch road area by sunset up horse trail, down queensferry, up sullivan canyon

    then goes back same way as far as I can tell.

    although sometimes (rarely) i see horse **** on jedi but not sure if its hers

    would pretty much suck bad if she was riding up squirrl and you come around a corner there, there is no ways the bike and the horse can fit, talk about a clusterf*ck if that happened.

    also if you slow you aint getting around her easy, she will block you while she cr*ps you out. You have to go fast so it will be a collision, then she will yell at you while you go by.
  • 01-06-2013
    sandmangts
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
    No, it is a multi use trail and MTBs can ride there whenever they want!

    Got it, in that case do whatever you can to document her aggressiveness. Report her to the rangers EVERY SINGLE TIME she mouths off to you. If you get the broad on the officials radar when something bad happens you will have ammo against her in court. It is only a matter of time before her horse kicks somebody or she deliberately collides with someone and tries to get bikes banned. She looks like a Vandeman follower to me.
  • 01-06-2013
    PerfectZero
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    would pretty much suck bad if she was riding up squirrl and you come around a corner there, there is no ways the bike and the horse can fit, talk about a clusterf*ck if that happened.

    god what a nightmare scenario. These days I'm mostly out there at night but I'll have to watch out for her.
  • 01-06-2013
    Mountain Cycle Shawn
    She'll just get more aggressive. It's just a matter of time before she goes from really stupid, to really really stupid, and someone gets hurt. If I took that video, I wouldn't bother with the ranger, he/she can't do anything. I'd take it to the local sheriff or PD.
  • 01-06-2013
    longboarderj
    I know we were having problems with our own lady on a white horse in Orange County at Santiago Oaks, she is in the picture from earlier covering her face, and guys started to report her to the rangers and show them their videos (some showing her leaving the trails and riding in illegal areas), she was spoken to and has been somewhat calmer since, but still not pleasant.
  • 01-07-2013
    Mrwhlr
    Equestrians recognize GFYS! here in AZ. Do you not have that in CA?
  • 01-07-2013
    Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrwhlr View Post
    Equestrians recognize GFYS! here in AZ. Do you not have that in CA?

    What is that?
  • 01-07-2013
    Glide the Clyde
    GFYS

    Go Feck YourSelf ?
  • 01-07-2013
    Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Somehow, I don't think that will make any difference.
  • 01-07-2013
    jasonjm
    yeah the equestrians here do recognize GFYS, if you watch the video, you can see she is dishing out lots of GFYS to anyone on a bike.
  • 01-07-2013
    Mrwhlr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    yeah the equestrians here do recognize GFYS, if you watch the video, you can see she is dishing out lots of GFYS to anyone on a bike.

    Yes, but she's doing it wrong. This is a great example of how horseys and bikes can get along better:

    Hektor stumblin' in... - YouTube
  • 01-07-2013
    jasonjm
    lol before anyone clicks on old hektor, its definitely NSFW
  • 01-07-2013
    Klurejr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post
    Fixed the link for you. Horse lady is at the end. Not that hot.

    Jedi Plunge - Squirrel Cage Video - Pinkbike

    MAD PROPS to the rider filming that one, how on earth did he remain so calm and respectful?

    That Lady seems to have some serious issues to yell at someone who slowed down and stopped for her on the horse and basically obeyed the rules of a multiuse trail.

    I don't think I have ever run across such rude behavior in all my riding days.

    Is that last section of trail considered Multi-use? Because from what I could see on the video that trail was way to narrow to be safe on a horse with or without having to share it with hikers and bikers..... :confused:
  • 01-07-2013
    jasonjm
    the rider in that video is always like that I ride with him (not in that video) and that's just the way he is.

    yeah i dont know if horses are allowed up that single track just before you see the witch, even a horse and a hiker would have a really tough time passing each other, some parts very narrow with 20 foot dropoff.

    im so glad someone posted that video. Everything on the internet is exaggerated 10 times (even this is an exaggeration of my non exaggeration). But this time its not.

    Can't wait to run into her again, I'm going to post a good video, going to ask her if she knows she could be up for manslaughter if someone trying to dodge her horse poo on the trail wipes out and breaks their neck in doing so.
  • 01-07-2013
    Klurejr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    Can't wait to run into her again, I'm going to post a good video, going to ask her if she knows she could be up for manslaughter if someone trying to dodge her horse poo on the trail wipes out and breaks their neck in doing so.

    haha, no kidding right? That outta rile her up.
  • 01-07-2013
    sandmangts
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    the rider in that video is always like that I ride with him (not in that video) and that's just the way he is.

    yeah i dont know if horses are allowed up that single track just before you see the witch, even a horse and a hiker would have a really tough time passing each other, some parts very narrow with 20 foot dropoff.

    im so glad someone posted that video. Everything on the internet is exaggerated 10 times (even this is an exaggeration of my non exaggeration). But this time its not.

    Can't wait to run into her again, I'm going to post a good video, going to ask her if she knows she could be up for manslaughter if someone trying to dodge her horse poo on the trail wipes out and breaks their neck in doing so.

    Please do and while your at it please be sure to ask her if her horse registration is up to date. I read recently that almost 80% of the horses in California are not properly registered. Ask to see her animals papers. You are well within your rights to do so to make sure her horse is properly vaccinated seeing as how it is pooping all over the place. Better yet next time she starts to lecture you just drop your shorts and pinch a loaf on the trail. If she gets upset just point out that her horse does it all the time.
  • 01-07-2013
    Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sandmangts View Post
    Please do and while your at it please be sure to ask her if her horse registration is up to date. I read recently that almost 80% of the horses in California are not properly registered. Ask to see her animals papers. You are well within your rights to do so to make sure her horse is properly vaccinated seeing as how it is pooping all over the place. Better yet next time she starts to lecture you just drop your shorts and pinch a loaf on the trail. If she gets upset just point out that her horse does it all the time.

    I'm pretty sure horses don't have to be registered anywhere. The only time people register horses is with a certain group, like if there horses is a pure bred, then it would be registered with that breeds official organization.
  • 01-07-2013
    Klurejr
    As far as I can find (google) you only need to register for sales and shows, not to ride in public:
    CDFA > AHFSS > AHB > Equine Medication Monitoring Program
  • 01-07-2013
    007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I'm pretty sure horses don't have to be registered anywhere. The only time people register horses is with a certain group, like if there horses is a pure bred, then it would be registered with that breeds official organization.

    There is a requirement for an equine license in the city of Los Angeles. Municipal code Section 53.15.1. There may be others, but I didn't do a thorough search.
  • 01-07-2013
    SanDiegan420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by noish View Post
    http://http://www.pinkbike.com/video/281816/

    Here is a video of this psychotic lady. Cross post on pinkbike about her. My wife had the pleasure of experiencing her today in the Sullivan Ridge area.

    Unbelievable - that trail looks AWESOME but I couldn't believe the lady. I'm cool & calm, and a nice person in general (especially if i'm enjoying nature on my day off) but if this lady would have said anything like this to me, I probably would have said something mean. I don't have any patience for ignorant BS!
  • 01-07-2013
    jackbombay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    There is a requirement for an equine license in the city of Los Angeles.

    Doesn't surprise me, Los Angeles is serious Business.
  • 01-07-2013
    007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
    Doesn't surprise me, Los Angeles is serious Business.

    Well I'm not sure how "serious" they are when the license is $14 and the "fine" for non-compliance is $5 :rolleyes:

    Though I wager that as with dogs, there are requirements for proof of vaccination, etc. which may get costly.
  • 01-07-2013
    jasonjm
    the game city of LA plays is they never notify you of anything

    they will claim you should have received X twice by mail (which you don't) and by that point you are with collections. So it will be $5 + $100 something in other fees by then.

    awesome.
  • 01-15-2013
    noish
    Fyi my wife (she rides a singlespeed black cat) saw the lady on a white horse after she hit a recreational biker (ie 1980's trek with goofy bar ends) on the paved part of sullivan fire road just after the first gate before the haunted house. For some reason they painted an outline of the victim on the road. There was an ambulance there and the guy just had skinned up knees. Anyone know more about this incident? Was probably in October or November.
  • 01-15-2013
    007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by noish View Post
    Fyi my wife (she rides a singlespeed black cat) saw the lady on a white horse after she hit a recreational biker (ie 1980's trek with goofy bar ends) on the paved part of sullivan fire road just after the first gate before the haunted house. For some reason they painted an outline of the victim on the road. There was an ambulance there and the guy just had skinned up knees. Anyone know more about this incident? Was probably in October or November.

    Wait, you are saying that the woman on the horse hit the biker?

    I do recall a few months ago that a cyclist was hit by a car on sullivan ridge . . . might that be the same incident? It wasn't that long ago.
  • 01-16-2013
    kdiff
    Thanks for the heads-up. I can't wait to have the pleasure of meeting her. :rolleyes:
  • 01-16-2013
    John Kuhl
    First off she is not a lady, second she needs
    to go to jail. Last but not least, some day she
    will run into the wrong person and get what
    she really needs , her ass beat.
  • 01-16-2013
    kdiff
    LMFAO!!!

    John, thank you for saying what I was thinking! (Though, I am not sure if it needed to be said.) :thumbsup:
  • 01-17-2013
    Klurejr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    Wait, you are saying that the woman on the horse hit the biker?

    I do recall a few months ago that a cyclist was hit by a car on sullivan ridge . . . might that be the same incident? It wasn't that long ago.


    Yeah i would like to know more about this as well....
  • 01-25-2013
    stencil
    First, wait... there's a haunted house on the ridge?

    Second, I can't imagine running into a horse on Squirrel Cage... I ran into some bikers coming up (do people actually ascend Squirrel Cage btw?) as I was descending last week and had to hike-a-bike around them.
  • 01-25-2013
    007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stencil View Post
    First, wait... there's a haunted house on the ridge?

    Second, I can't imagine running into a horse on Squirrel Cage... I ran into some bikers coming up (do people actually ascend Squirrel Cage btw?) as I was descending last week and had to hike-a-bike around them.

    The old Nazi camp. Here's the entrance:


    And I think most folks head down squirrel cage.
  • 01-25-2013
    stencil
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    The old Nazi camp. Here's the entrance:


    And I think most folks head down squirrel cage.

    Ahh, I heard about this. How did I miss it on Sullivan Ridge though? So if I'm coming down from above, say from Jedi or the fire road, is this before Squirrel Cage or after?
  • 01-25-2013
    007
    Coming down the ridge, its way after . . . its closer to the bottom. If you were taking the ridge down and dumped into the canyon via Squirrel Cage, you'd miss this.
  • 01-27-2013
    LandSpeed
    I've ridden over there lots of time, and even though I haven't seen the crazy horse woman, there is a similarly moronic woman that takes her guard dogs for walks along the entrance road to that fire trail from Capri --> Sullivan Canyon Fire Road.

    She purposefully let her dogs slip on the leash as I was riding by, and they almost took my leg off.

    So, FYI, if you see two german shepherds on a leash with some ditzy looking blonde 50'ish woman, don't call out and say that you're going to pass by. Just find another way around.
  • 01-27-2013
    jackbombay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LandSpeed View Post
    She purposefully let her dogs slip on the leash as I was riding by, and they almost took my leg off.

    Bear spray.
  • 02-03-2013
    noish
    Saw the crazy lady on the white horse again. She was on the steep paved road coming up out of sullivan canyon. Again, paved road, 40 feet wide. She was super nervous and could hardly control her horse as I rode around about 30 feet from her, slowly climbing the hill. I think she is truly a public danger - either she does not have the skills to control her horse or her horse does not belong on public trails. Either way she does not belong out there, and with the amount of use that trail gets, it's only a matter of time until she hits someone again.
  • 02-04-2013
    Bbbrad
    Gawd I'm so tired of all the mentally disturbed people wandering around Sulli...
    Some woman with her dog on Horse trail the other day began yelling the usual 'trespassing...kill somebody' stuff at me. Questions like "If its private property, why are you here? Why are the property fences on either side of the trail? Why is there no fence/gate/sign at the entrance to keep people out?" all met with zero response, just more ranting about me killing somebody.
    I told her I'd been riding 15 years & had never hurt/hit anyone, although I had been bitten several times by off-leash dogs, just like hers was.
    I don't think she heard a word I said. Just kept spewing her BS in a VERY antagonistic way. Like someone else said, sooner or later one of these nut-bags is gonna mess with the wrong person and its not going to be pretty. And I for one will have a very hard time feeling sorry for them when that happens...
  • 02-04-2013
    007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bbbrad View Post
    Gawd I'm so tired of all the mentally disturbed people wandering around Sulli...
    Some woman with her dog on Horse trail the other day began yelling the usual 'trespassing...kill somebody' stuff at me. Questions like "If its private property, why are you here? Why are the property fences on either side of the trail? Why is there no fence/gate/sign at the entrance to keep people out?" all met with zero response, just more ranting about me killing somebody.
    I told her I'd been riding 15 years & had never hurt/hit anyone, although I had been bitten several times by off-leash dogs, just like hers was.
    I don't think she heard a word I said. Just kept spewing her BS in a VERY antagonistic way. Like someone else said, sooner or later one of these nut-bags is gonna mess with the wrong person and its not going to be pretty. And I for one will have a very hard time feeling sorry for them when that happens...

    This is pretty much why I'll only ride Sulli Canyon and HT at night anymore . . . that and its a whole lot more fun to bomb down the canyon at max speed :D
  • 02-04-2013
    Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    This is pretty much why I'll only ride Sulli Canyon and HT at night anymore . . . that and its a whole lot more fun to bomb down the canyon at max speed :D

    Don't let these loons keep you off the trail. The point in them acting like that is to make you not want to be there. The best thing you can do is act like you don't notice them and keep riding. At the very most, give them the single finger international peace sign, don't say anything and keep riding.
  • 02-05-2013
    2w4s
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Don't let these loons keep you off the trail. The point in them acting like that is to make you not want to be there. The best thing you can do is act like you don't notice them and keep riding. At the very most, give them the single finger international peace sign, don't say anything and keep riding.


    haha love it, the single finger coalition. it's about time santa monica area bikers started proactively fighting for our right to party, it seems like every other riding community has an organization to handle and mitigate some of the issues we have. before moving to santa monica i lived in aliso viejo and the riding community there was instrumental in getting trails opened, doing trail maintenance, and basically handling trail conflicts.