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    Julian Death March online registration now open

    The Julian Death March coming up Saturday April 12th, now has it's online registration opened.
    Go to http://www.active.com/event_detail.cfm?EVENT_ID=1552964 to register on line.
    For complete event details please go to our web page at http://www.julianactive.com/Julian7500.htm
    You may also print out an entry form from our web page if you prefer to register via mail.

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    How much of this ride is on pavement? I am going to do it anyway, but I am just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMFC
    How much of this ride is on pavement? I am going to do it anyway, but I am just curious.
    40 percent pavement, 60 percent dirt. About 11,000 feet of climbing for all three loops. Great scenery, but if you detest pavement or demand all single track this is not the ride for you.

    We feel this is a nice change of pace from the standard loop endurance ride.

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    Doesn't bother me one bit. See ya there
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    Pre-ride?

    Is anyone out there interested in pre-riding the first loop with some Death March first timers - me and a couple of others (EMFC included)? Some Sunday this month (in the morning) works best for us.

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    I would like to...

    This will be my first time riding the death march, and Id like to pre-ride each loop prior to the event.

    I was just going to go it alone, but I would prefer to ride with others, and Sundays are great for me.

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    Great event! I recommend it to any endurance-minded rider in SoCal.

    Unfortunately, we've made another commitment this year. Have fun!
    I own and work at Hub Cyclery, Idyllwild CA

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    sorry- learning how to use this

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    Thank you

    Rich for putting on this event...
    Grand claims demand grand proof.

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    We had some people pre ride loop one about a week ago. The Kelly Ditch is a mess from this last winter as far as tree downfall. We plan to get in there in the next few weeks and do some cleanup. We will you posted on the results.

    If you are planning on pre riding I would suggest loop 2 and 3 to pre ride. Remember loop 3 is officially only opened on weekends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by single~minded
    You need someone to hold your hand
    This one will hurt
    No I like to suffer alone.

    You doing this ride?
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    You may have just talked me out of it, at least on the SS. I may knock the dust of the geared bike for this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by single~minded
    No way dude ....If I go you will do it single with me right? Remember the poway century.....singles all the way
    hey single-minded...can i ask what gearing you ran last year?

    i am going to be riding it ss and i will probably go 32x20 on a 29er....not sure.

    i wonder if my ss monster cross would be a good option for this ride since there is quite abit of pavement.

    TIA.
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    I let you talk me into Poway and now this one as well. Hell I'll try it on the SS.
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    How serious is this, really?

    From the U-T article:

    “This first loop was as hard as the race in Leadville,” DeBenedetti said. “This was the hardest thing I have ever done. I have never climbed that much.”

    Thanks for the link. The U-T article doesn't say whether this guy finished the Leadville race, but looking at the elevation maps for the Julian ride, I have a hard time believing that it is really that much more difficult than Leadville. I'd love to hear thoughts/input from folks who have done both, or even just the Julian race.

    Thanks,

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    As hard as Leadville? Probably not, but still at 80 miles with 11,000 feet of climbing, it is plenty tough.
    The last lap is a real test, due to some very steep areas.

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    Hey Rich, been away for awhile. *Saw you and some of the boys on Laguna last year...

    So how does the current course compare to the original 7500??
    Those first couple of 7500's were mutha's....

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    Quote Originally Posted by xjbebop
    Hey Rich, been away for awhile. *Saw you and some of the boys on Laguna last year...

    So how does the current course compare to the original 7500??
    Those first couple of 7500's were mutha's....

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    ...must be nice to be rich....
    A little longer and about another 1,000 feet of climbing.

    Now if I lived in a third world country, I might be considered rich!

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    Hey Death March Team

    Well it looks like The "12 Hrs of Temecula" crew will be out in force for your race Rich. I will hopefully be bringing 4-5 guys to come ride and support a great SoCal race. It sounds like a suffering good time! Hopefully all this trail work and beer will kepp me fit enough to get 3! I look forward to your event!
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    did this last year and you need to be aware of the turns,so you don't get lost. Take a GPS and keep the instructions with you at all times (this makes it fun). I thought the climb out of the second lap was tough, but it was a great great day of riding.
    my wife and I made it into a nice weekend trip staying at the Orchard Hill (really nice and realaxing). I would do it this year, but we just had twins.

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    I am going into the Kelly ditch with a new Husky chainsaw this week.
    Hopefully the dead tree downfall over the winter isn't as bad as I have heard it to be!

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    Yup it needs it!

    Quote Originally Posted by richwolf
    I am going into the Kelly ditch with a new Husky chainsaw this week.
    Hopefully the dead tree downfall over the winter isn't as bad as I have heard it to be!
    I pre rode loops one and two today [great day for it] with a few mates....yup that Kelly Ditch portion needs some love...other than that - great course/conditions.

    FastDDS reply to my PM [I'm looking for your GPS file from today...

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    It was all right....

    Quote Originally Posted by single~minded
    How did you feel after the 2 loops? Did you do it single?
    we rode to align with everyones speed [one guy was knakered after a hard week]...tempo at times, easier at others....tired rider #1 wisely bailed after loop 1...another rider bailed after loop 1 due to family obligations....so only two of us pressed on...

    pain and effort is relative to the individuals and speed - of course...I was riding with last years winner as such I was more tired and he was better [riding well within his abilities all day...4hrs and 50min +/- for both loops.

    DID NOT DO IT SINGLE - not a course that "suits" SS - but all courses "suit" SS for some....

    I can add that my geared HT 29er with a sus post made me happy
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    Got into the "Ditch" yesterday and cleared a lot of the downed trees over the trail. Should be good to go now.
    If anyone else prerides loop one, give us some feedback.

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    Guy is my....

    dentist too....need to schedule an appointment, on that note... Guy and his buddy were out there yesterday....Guy is ready to go fast, based on his VQ time [with a double flat] and all this pre-ridding of his!

    Hey - finish this bad boy on a SS and YOU dah man!
    Grand claims demand grand proof.

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    Pre-Riding the course on 3/29 and 4/5

    I plan to pre-ride the course over the next two weekends. I am going to start at Frank Lane Park on Saturday morning and will start to ride at 8am. This Saturday I am going to ride Loops 2 and then 3. Next Saturday I am going to ride Loops 1 and then either 2 or 3.

    If anyone else wants to come out and join me you're more than welcome.

    Kevin

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    3/29/08 Loop#1 conditions....

    some fresh "deposits" from the horses...Kelly Ditch better to the beginning of the descent down the north side [thanks Rich] - then it gets sketchy with 10+ trees over the trail and even some snapped branches that you can REALLY get punctured by.
    Grand claims demand grand proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardTail29er
    3/29/08 Loop#1 conditions....

    some fresh "deposits" from the horses...Kelly Ditch better to the beginning of the descent down the north side [thanks Rich] - then it gets sketchy with 10+ trees over the trail and even some snapped branches that you can REALLY get punctured by.

    We will get in there in clean up that last section. I had heard that part was good to go. Looks like I had some bad sources!

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    I heard from last year's winner that there was more clearing to be done on the Kelly Ditch so I got in there yesterday and completed the clearing. There are a couple of large trees that my small husky couldn't tackle and my small arms couldn't handle so they are still part of the fun!
    Pre register on line or through active.com and you get an event t-shirt. We will be accepting day of entries but shirts will be limited and optional.

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    Pre-Riding Loops 1 and 2 Saturday 4/5

    A couple of us are pre-riding loops 1 and 2 tomorrow morning, Saturday 4/5. We are going to start from the four corners in Julian at 8am if anyone is interested in joining us.

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    I'm interested in this event but I don't think I can pre-ride. Am I asking for trouble?

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    I hope not....

    cause I'm in and I can't pre-ride either.

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    haha great! Damn, I'm so tempted.

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    I'm a little worried....

    This will be my first mountain bike type race/ride. I'm hoping to complete the first loop and then play it by ear on the second. I've done pretty close to the equivalent mileage/climbing recently here at home so I'm thinking I should survive the first loop. I've done tons of centuries on the road bike and was wanting to try something different. Hope I haven't bitten off more than I can chew.

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    The course is marked (but no guarantees) and we provide route sheets with mileage. We strongly suggest an odometer so you can check any turns where you have a question.
    The route consist of 3 distinct loops and you come back to the start finish area at the end of each loop so you can decide if you want to tackle the second and third loop. There are time limits to start the second and third loop.
    The first loop is tough but if you are in decent shape you should be able to complete that loop.
    60 percent dirt and 40 percent pavement. Lots of great scenery too.
    If you haven't pre rode the course, you can get through it provided you take the time to check your bearings should you have any question.

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    Great course!

    I pre-rode Loop 1 this weekend and Loops 2 and 3 last weekend. It is a great course that is tons of fun, very diverse terrain from paved roads to technical single track, desert to forest. No matter if you do one, two or three loops you'll have a great time. With the printed route sheets from the website it was easy to follow the course. If you want to check out the course in motionbased go to http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5337839 for loop 1 and http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5285944 for loops 2 and 3.

    Kevin
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibclimbn
    I pre-rode Loop 1 this weekend and Loops 2 and 3 last weekend. It is a great course that is tons of fun, very diverse terrain from paved roads to technical single track, desert to forest. No matter if you do one, two or three loops you'll have a great time. With the printed route sheets from the website it was easy to follow the course. If you want to check out the course in motionbased go to http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5337839 for loop 1 and http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5285944 for loops 2 and 3.

    Kevin
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    Kevin,

    That is cool! How accurate are those elevation gain readings?? Your total of all 3 loops shows around 13,300 feet of climbing and almost exactly 80 miles. I measured around 11,000 feet of climbing for the 3 loops.
    Would you mind if I linked those motion based trails you created from our web site.

    Thanks,

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    Motionbased link for ride

    The elevation shown on my Garmin at the end of the ride was less than it shows on Motion based after I uploaded it. From what I understand motionbased takes the data and re-calculates the elevation gain using their algorithm which always gives a higher number. My garmin matched almost exactly with what you said on your website. Note that I made an incorrect turn on loop 1. I took a left instead of a right after I was done with the Kelly Ditch trail and getting onto a fire road.

    No problem using those motionbased links for your website.

    Kevin

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    The weather looks good for Saturday with highs in the 70's. It might be warmer than that at some of the lower elevations of the ride. Bring sunscreen, sun glasses and make sure you have plenty of fluids on board.
    For complete details go to http://julianactive.com/Julian7500.htm

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