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    Juicy surprise in Spring Canyon today

    At about 100 yards south of the entrance to the side trail best known as Barrels. 6:45AM today. Try to remember these canyons (Oak, Spring, Sycamore and everything in between) has been the buffet restaurant for these carnivores WAY BEFORE the Marines called it theirs! Keep your eyes open and ride in pairs! Juicy surprise in Spring Canyon today-springdeer.jpg

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    Wow, I was going to ride today, too. I always ride there alone and start at around 5:30 A.M. Thanks for the heads up!
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    Good thing that carnivore got a bit of its fill on that before you came along. As long as you didn't try to claim that juicy carcass for yourself, I bet you probably couldn't detect it was still nearby.
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    Oh my goodness . . . I know the apex predators are out there, but I hate getting such a graphic reminder. I suppose that's the mountain-biking equivalent of a bite-marked seal carcass washing up on shore. Pretty soon every trail in Spring, Oak, and Sycamore will be called "Cat Canyon" or "Deer Kill." Thanks for the heads-up.

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    Whoa, nice find! Keep your eyes open...
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    I'm just back from a ride that included that trail -- didn't see hide nor hair of that poor creature even though its half-eaten carcass was probably hidden somewhere on the hillside. Timing is everything, I guess.

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    There was loads of blood and intestinal "innards" on the trail. Good 'ol ma nature sent in her "clean up crew" thus every morsel found a belly. Another part of the story: When the four of us rolled up and saw it, there was one other deer about 30 yards away walking around looking stunned and kept looking back to the area of the carcass. We rode away quite quick northbound to our first canyon run WITHOUT taking any pictures, as the kill was "glistening" fresh. Once we completed half our route (R1 to R2) then south to ride up Barrels then down Western (Teote) was when I went back and found what you see in the pic. The carcass was moved about 20 yards south (distinct drag mark). I took the pic and BOOGIED THE HECK OUTTA THERE QUICK back to Barrels and rode FAST up Barrels all the while thinking that cat has got it's eyes on us. Yeah, I was a bit spooked.

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    I've been riding there for years and never got spooked.....until last night. I didn't see a soul out there at dusk and for some reason I kept thinking something was following me at the bottom between GN and Iron. Never once thought about the critters other than the occasional snake on trail until last night. Damn.......I got chills thinking about that and seeing the aftermath!!

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    Guys, when you see that, the cat is very close. They never go far from their kill. Get the heck away from there quickly whenever you happen upon a kill like that. The cat may defend it's kill if you approach. Watch out!

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    Wow, that really is an incredible find. I get excited if I manage a picture of a cool lizard or snake. We are not the most aggressive users of our trails by a long shot.

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    Hrmmm. Think my Friday night riding plans may have just changed.

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    I'm kinda jealous. I've seen 3 mountain lions in my life, not counting the ones in the Desert Museum in Tucson, but all of them were in the Lagunas. I know they are around MTRP and LPQ, but I've never seen one in those places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Raton View Post
    I'm kinda jealous. I've seen 3 mountain lions in my life, not counting the ones in the Desert Museum in Tucson, but all of them were in the Lagunas. I know they are around MTRP and LPQ, but I've never seen one in those places.

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    Meh. It was probably a victim of a Stavasshole flying down 3B while being pursued by military police dogs and ATVs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CEB View Post
    There was loads of blood and intestinal "innards" on the trail. Good 'ol ma nature sent in her "clean up crew" thus every morsel found a belly. Another part of the story: When the four of us rolled up and saw it, there was one other deer about 30 yards away walking around looking stunned and kept looking back to the area of the carcass. We rode away quite quick northbound to our first canyon run WITHOUT taking any pictures, as the kill was "glistening" fresh. Once we completed half our route (R1 to R2) then south to ride up Barrels then down Western (Teote) was when I went back and found what you see in the pic. The carcass was moved about 20 yards south (distinct drag mark). I took the pic and BOOGIED THE HECK OUTTA THERE QUICK back to Barrels and rode FAST up Barrels all the while thinking that cat has got it's eyes on us. Yeah, I was a bit spooked.

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    I was kinda shocked you stopped to take pics at all..... I don't think I would have....
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    That would be crazy to come up on. Luckily it was still fresh. Imagine the scent later in the day...

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    Highly doubt anything would be left later in the day....Or 2 hours later for that matter

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    Gona go do a night ride there tonight, screw it. Kitty has eaten well this week, should be safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRingGrinder View Post
    Gona go do a night ride there tonight, screw it. Kitty has eaten well this week, should be safe.
    Sort of but there were trucks tracks very close a day later

    Imagine if the kitty was interrupted by a mountain bikers then his food were taken away by a truck!

    That's be one pissed kitty...

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    I know some riders who saw a lion kill in that area back in February. I am definitetly going to be ringing a lot of bells on the trail. Bill

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    I stopped to catch my breath for a second after descending rusty barrels last night. During the course of the ride i had completely forgotten about kitty. Heard rustling of something in the bushes on that ridge above the barrels and realized i was alone in the dark at ground zero kill zone. I literally roared as loud as i could and took off.

    Was probably a rodent or bird or something small, gave me a fun little adrenaline rush though! Weeeeeeee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRingGrinder View Post
    I stopped to catch my breath for a second after descending rusty barrels last night. During the course of the ride i had completely forgotten about kitty. Heard rustling of something in the bushes on that ridge above the barrels and realized i was alone in the dark at ground zero kill zone. I literally roared as loud as i could and took off.

    Was probably a rodent or bird or something small, gave me a fun little adrenaline rush though! Weeeeeeee!
    Glad you didn't get eaten otherwise we would never find out your true identity.

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    What are all you guys worried about? Here kitty kitty kitty cat!

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    On second thought, maybe that deer kill was the result of poachers. With the DFG understaffed as they are, deploying wardens to DMM to write tickets to cyclists and runners on the trails there, there ought to be plenty of new opportunities for poachers to go out and kill game illegally!

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    Poachers would have cleanly slashed the stomach to gut it. The deer is clearly chewed up and I'll bet the big cat that killed it had a bead on all who passed by there that day. If that doesn't give you the heebee geebees, nothing will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Raton View Post
    On second thought, maybe that deer kill was the result of poachers. With the DFG understaffed as they are, deploying wardens to DMM to write tickets to cyclists and runners on the trails there, there ought to be plenty of new opportunities for poachers to go out and kill game illegally!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirtrider127 View Post




    maybe they need to leave the mesa and post out there all day long looking for the guys that did this
    My sentiments exactly. Although, if they do "post" out there....would that mean they would just turn to ticket-writing out there, while they were there on 'stakeout' duty? Do bad habits die hard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Poachers would have cleanly slashed the stomach to gut it. The deer is clearly chewed up and I'll bet the big cat that killed it had a bead on all who passed by there that day. If that doesn't give you the heebee geebees, nothing will.
    From the pic I saw, the wounding was not typical for the average lion kill. But then again, it was hard to tell from that pic. Usually, the first thing most cats go for in a deer kill is the fresh liver. Thinking about that, I also believe that is usually true in most cases where they killed/ate humans............

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    Unless some big cat liked double IPAs, I doubt it would consider my liver "fresh."

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    Quote Originally Posted by random walk View Post
    Unless some big cat liked double IPAs, I doubt it would consider my liver "fresh."
    But it might be good with some fava beans and a nice chianti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by random walk View Post
    Unless some big cat liked double IPAs, I doubt it would consider my liver "fresh."
    Ha! Good one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Raton View Post
    My sentiments exactly. Although, if they do "post" out there....would that mean they would just turn to ticket-writing out there, while they were there on 'stakeout' duty? Do bad habits die hard?
    Actually, mountain lions DO seem to have a preference in mtb riders. They have a thing for Ellsworth riders.

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    I've never seen a mountain lion in the wild, but about 1/2 a year ago while ridding
    in LPQ I saw some big cat tracks on the trail. They were very close to some houses.

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    Juicy surprise in Spring Canyon today

    Quote Originally Posted by Billinsd View Post
    I know some riders who saw a lion kill in that area back in February. I am definitetly going to be ringing a lot of bells on the trail. Bill
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