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    EPIC RIDE- Cuyamaca to Noble Canyon

    In the June issue of MTB Action it lists Cuyamaca to Noble in its list of top epic rides. Has anyone ridden this? I'm familiar with Noble but not the Cuyamacas.
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    It is a good ride.

    Quote Originally Posted by bjammin
    In the June issue of MTB Action it lists Cuyamaca to Noble in its list of top epic rides. Has anyone ridden this? I'm familiar with Noble but not the Cuyamacas.
    Info???

    Not sure how MBA has the route. I've done it parking at East Mesa Trailhead. And I didn't feel too epic worthy. I just rode across the two ranges and around Big Laguna and back.
    It is truley an epic ride in August and September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elivingston
    Hey man, thanks for the link - very helpful. From the looks of it, you need two cars. One at either end. Am I correct?

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    I Am Sorry, But Did You Say

    Quote Originally Posted by bjammin
    Hey man, thanks for the link - very helpful. From the looks of it, you need two cars. One at either end. Am I correct?
    "EPIC?" Never in my life did I hear the words EPIC and SHUTTLE in the same sentence.

    EPIC mtbers DON"T shuttle!

    If you're going to go one way, please don't use the word EPIC. It gives us who don't shuttle and do EPICs a bad name.

    If only Aqua were here to save the day.....if only he hadn't fallen for the old (tried and true), "I saw a half-nekkid girl going that way" on the trail yesterday, he might still be "with us."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief
    "EPIC?" Never in my life did I hear the words EPIC and SHUTTLE in the same sentence.

    EPIC mtbers DON"T shuttle!

    If you're going to go one way, please don't use the word EPIC. It gives us who don't shuttle and do EPICs a bad name.

    If only Aqua were here to save the day.....if only he hadn't fallen for the old (tried and true), "I saw a half-nekkid girl going that way" on the trail yesterday, he might still be "with us."
    It is possible to do an epic ride and a shuttle ride all in one. There are plenty of mega-long trails that could be considered epic and require shuttles - Kokopelli trail comes to mind. It's all relative, Chief.

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    Whoa....what was that going Mach five

    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    It is possible to do an epic ride and a shuttle ride all in one. There are plenty of mega-long trails that could be considered epic and require shuttles - Kokopelli trail comes to mind. It's all relative, Chief.
    right past you?

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    Here are a couple

    Quote Originally Posted by ssmike
    It is possible to do an epic ride and a shuttle ride all in one. There are plenty of mega-long trails that could be considered epic and require shuttles - Kokopelli trail comes to mind. It's all relative, Chief.
    In my book anyway.

    The Palm Canyon Epic

    Of course I know of at least one hairly-legged manly man who makes a 55+ mile loop out of this.

    During Last Years Lake Tahoe Gathering We did a 39.5 miler from Mount Rose along the the Tahoe Rim Trail to the Flume Trail to Martlett Lake to Spooner Lake then to Diamond Peak. After that we headed towards Kingsbury Grade and picked up the Chinese Downhill to finish. Most of it above 7,000 and some above 8,000 feet.

    Now I do not consider those shuttles, I consider them point-to-point rides.

    A shuttle to me is something that could be done as a loop by an above average intermediate (fitness-wise) rider. There are some exceptions such as a dangerously busy paved roads that make the loop or the connector is a poach etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbbill
    .....Now I do not consider those shuttles, I consider them point-to-point rides. ....
    I used to think just setting up the shuttle for Coyote Canyon was a driving epic alone. Is that ride legal anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjammin
    Hey man, thanks for the link - very helpful. From the looks of it, you need two cars. One at either end. Am I correct?
    When I did the ride with Bill we parked on 79 at the East Mesa Fire Road access point. we went up East Mesa fireroad and hooked up with Indian Creek Trail. From there, we climbed IC to Champagne Pass, down IC to Noble, and up Noble to get water. We then headed left (North?) on Sunrise Highway to the Pioneer Mail campground to pick up the Pioneer Mail trail. This trail takes you back to Champagne pass. Down IC to hook back up with the East Mesa Fireroad and you're done.

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    the difference being

    shuttles are used for going down. Point to Point can be very length when there is no loop option. I've done plenty of 4 plus hour point to point rides that require cars at each end............

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    don't forget about

    The Plunge............I'd never punish another human by making them do that bad boy backwards..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti_Rider
    When I did the ride with Bill we parked on 79 at the East Mesa Fire Road access point. we went up East Mesa fireroad and hooked up with Indian Creek Trail. From there, we climbed IC to Champagne Pass, down IC to Noble, and up Noble to get water. We then headed left (North?) on Sunrise Highway to the Pioneer Mail campground to pick up the Pioneer Mail trail. This trail takes you back to Champagne pass. Down IC to hook back up with the East Mesa Fireroad and you're done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti_Rider
    When I did the ride with Bill we parked on 79 at the East Mesa Fire Road access point. we went up East Mesa fireroad and hooked up with Indian Creek Trail. From there, we climbed IC to Champagne Pass, down IC to Noble, and up Noble to get water. We then headed left (North?) on Sunrise Highway to the Pioneer Mail campground to pick up the Pioneer Mail trail. This trail takes you back to Champagne pass. Down IC to hook back up with the East Mesa Fireroad and you're done.

    YR
    Thanks for the connector loop.(GOD forbid it's a shuttle!)
    We're going to map this out on GPS and put it on Geoladders for others to enjoy.
    Thanks again for everyones (almost) info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeti_Rider
    The Plunge............I'd never punish another human by making them do that bad boy backwards..........

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    Might try that this year. Know someone who's done it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivet
    Might try that this year. Know someone who's done it.

    I'd skip it for the danger factor alone. Riding up SJT is bad enough with the shuttle monkeys riding down- at least on the SJT they actually expect uphillers. On the Plunge? No way. You'd likely get killed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    I'd skip it for the danger factor alone. Riding up SJT is bad enough with the shuttle monkeys riding down- at least on the SJT they actually expect uphillers. On the Plunge? No way. You'd likely get killed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bjammin
    Thanks for the connector loop.(GOD forbid it's a shuttle!)
    We're going to map this out on GPS and put it on Geoladders for others to enjoy.
    Thanks again for everyones (almost) info.
    The Cuyamaca to Noble Canyon Epic ride originated from “The IMBA Epics” here is the link to the rides and the Cuyamaca to Noble Epic ride. http://www.imba.com/epics/ http://www.imba.com/epics/julian_ca.html
    The course we (SDMBA) designed for the Cuyamaca to Noble IMBA Epic started from the Parking lot with the large turnout used for horse trailers, it’s located about one mile past Green Valley Falls off the 79, from the parking lot we rode up East Side trail to East Mesa Fire Road, up East Mesa fire road to Indian Creek Trail, at Champagne Pass we went left on Pine Mountain trail to Sunrise Highway, (the Pine Mountain trail is often confused with Pioneer Mail trail) from Sunrise Highway we rode to Penny Pines/Noble Canyon trail head, from there we did a loop around the Big Laguna trail back to the Noble Canyon trail head, down Noble Canyon to the Noble Canyon trail head in Pine Valley, from the trail head we rode up Pine Creek road back to East Mesa fire road, up East Mesa to East Side trail back to the Parking Lot.
    I hope that helps and this ride is not a shuttle
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    Quote Originally Posted by TCB
    The Cuyamaca to Noble Canyon Epic ride originated from “The IMBA Epics” here is the link to the rides and the Cuyamaca to Noble Epic ride. http://www.imba.com/epics/ http://www.imba.com/epics/julian_ca.html
    The course we (SDMBA) designed for the Cuyamaca to Noble IMBA Epic started from the Parking lot with the large turnout used for horse trailers, it’s located about one mile past Green Valley Falls off the 79, from the parking lot we rode up East Side trail to East Mesa Fire Road, up East Mesa fire road to Indian Creek Trail, at Champagne Pass we went left on Pine Mountain trail to Sunrise Highway, (the Pine Mountain trail is often confused with Pioneer Mail trail) from Sunrise Highway we rode to Penny Pines/Noble Canyon trail head, from there we did a loop around the Big Laguna trail back to the Noble Canyon trail head, down Noble Canyon to the Noble Canyon trail head in Pine Valley, from the trail head we rode up Pine Creek road back to East Mesa fire road, up East Mesa to East Side trail back to the Parking Lot.
    I hope that helps and this ride is not a shuttle
    talkin about! 45-50 miles, plenty of elevation, rocks, heat, flies, sweat, 8-10 hours total, and NO shuttle. Truly of EPIC proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief
    talkin about! 45-50 miles, plenty of elevation, rocks, heat, flies, sweat, 8-10 hours total, and NO shuttle. Truly of EPIC proportions.
    sounds likes you got a narrow view of epic if you don't allow the various point to point rides that have been mentioned. personally the cyumaca to noble sounds like a yawnnnn ride, borrring. but then again the "imba epic" rides contain many over hyped rides, like national trail in south mountain. they describe that as epic, pleease! the most epic ride i do in my life is only 22 miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dft
    sounds likes you got a narrow view of epic if you don't allow the various point to point rides that have been mentioned. personally the cyumaca to noble sounds like a yawnnnn ride, borrring. but then again the "imba epic" rides contain many over hyped rides, like national trail in south mountain. they describe that as epic, pleease! the most epic ride i do in my life is only 22 miles.
    it's all just opinion-based rhetoric here. You say potato...I say potatoe. (Ode to Dan Quayle)

    Btw, I can't even do more than 35 miles XC in one day, w/o my back going out, so no more EPIC rides for me.
    Just keep your greensleeves on there, D Fing T, and you'll find your chi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCB
    The Cuyamaca to Noble Canyon Epic ride originated from “The IMBA Epics” here is the link to the rides and the Cuyamaca to Noble Epic ride. http://www.imba.com/epics/ http://www.imba.com/epics/julian_ca.html
    The course we (SDMBA) designed for the Cuyamaca to Noble IMBA Epic started from the Parking lot with the large turnout used for horse trailers, it’s located about one mile past Green Valley Falls off the 79, from the parking lot we rode up East Side trail to East Mesa Fire Road, up East Mesa fire road to Indian Creek Trail, at Champagne Pass we went left on Pine Mountain trail to Sunrise Highway, (the Pine Mountain trail is often confused with Pioneer Mail trail) from Sunrise Highway we rode to Penny Pines/Noble Canyon trail head, from there we did a loop around the Big Laguna trail back to the Noble Canyon trail head, down Noble Canyon to the Noble Canyon trail head in Pine Valley, from the trail head we rode up Pine Creek road back to East Mesa fire road, up East Mesa to East Side trail back to the Parking Lot.
    I hope that helps and this ride is not a shuttle
    That is one of my favorite rides, and by any stretch would be considered epic. Covers some great terrain, beautiful scenery, and fun techy stuff. Great ride, but probably a bit hot these days.

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    if you yawn at a 55 mile ride including descending Noble Canyon, there isn't much that can be done.

    no length of ride makes it epic. i would however venture to guess that somewhere before 55 miles the hallucinations start (probably climbing Alp d' Wheez) and that makes it epic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief
    "EPIC?" Never in my life did I hear the words EPIC and SHUTTLE in the same sentence.

    EPIC mtbers DON"T shuttle!

    If you're going to go one way, please don't use the word EPIC. It gives us who don't shuttle and do EPICs a bad name.

    If only Aqua were here to save the day.....if only he hadn't fallen for the old (tried and true), "I saw a half-nekkid girl going that way" on the trail yesterday, he might still be "with us."
    come on now........there are epic shuttlable trails
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