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    DMM turning into a freeway

    Hearing this Wednesday at PQ Library on Salmon River.

    Please attend the City Scoping meeting this Wednesday evening (6pm) at the Rancho Penasquitos library! The city will hear public comments regarding the VERY large commercial development by Seabreeze Properties/Merge 56 that will border Carmel Mountain Road, Camino del Sur and Dormouse. The original community plan called for 250K of commercial space - The new plan includes 525K of commercial, office, theatre and hotel uses.
    To recap (this 41.34 acre site):
    The plan is going from Commercial - Med High Density to Local Mixed Use.
    The commercial footage is going from 250K to 525K
    They are changing the residential to 242 residential dwelling units
    47 affordable units
    111 townhomes
    84 small lot single family homes
    Camino del Sur will be a 4-6 lane Road and Carmel Mountain Road will be a 4 lane road
    Please note!!! This will be the ONLY opportunity for the community to have input on this project.
    For more information -
    http://docs.sandiego.gov/citybulleti...%207-21-14.pdf
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    That'll teach those fairy shrimp who's boss!
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    Actually, Ray, this will be good for the fairy shrimp. Imagine how well-protected they'll be from those nefarious mountain-bikers, once they're covered by umpteen gazillion tons of dirt and condos!

    Either that, or SDG&E will have to make some new vernal pools with their truck tires, next time it rains.

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    Good old San Diego BS strikes again.

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    I think the lesson here is to ride it while it's there. All evidence will be erased once the developers have their way.

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    So everybody knows, the land impacted by this is NOT the tunnels. It is adjacent to it. If you look at a map, Camino del Sur from the gas station just off the 56 will be extended down to Park Village. This has been part of the community master plan from the beginning. The land has always been slated to be developed into residential and light commercial use. This is the land that is between the end of Carmel Mountain and Camino del Sur on the north and the CDFW land on the west.

    The issue at hand is the width of Camino del Sur and how the developer plans to get past Deer Canyon (tunnel one east end) and descend the canyon to the road next to Park Village. Originally plans call for dirt fill. The fight should not be against the development as that is a hopeless fight. The fight needs to be about reducing the width of the road and changing the filling of the canyons into bridges to allow access.

    The 1980's era plans called for Camino del Sur to extend down to Mira Mesa, including an overpass in PQ. The road was planned as a second Black Mountain artery. Since that is no longer the plan and it only will server the community of Park Village, the road does not need to be as wide as the original plans. That makes it easier to realign and change the canyon fill plans to bridges. I hope the community can be represented at the meeting. This is one meeting that I cannot make since I am out of town right now. It would be nice to see a turn out similar to what we saw in 2010 and 2011 for the original tunnels trail plan.

    If you go, remember, be courteous and respectful. Fill out a request to speak and keep to a consistent point. Access to Tunnel one under the extension needs to be preserved as does future access for the Darkwood connector down to Park Village. Easements are the key to a successful trail system. Land use should accommodate everybody, not just the pocket of the developer.
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    Thanks for the clarification and details bb.
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    Did anyone make it to the Wednesday meeting? Any interesting news?
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    In LA this week so I couldn't go but others did.

    The meeting was to address the need for an environmental study. It was not about the road width, density or impact to surrounding human communities. Right now the city is trying to figure out how to help the project proceed but ensure they are covering their butts from a CEQA requirement. Most of the speakers addressed things like the severing of wildlife coridors, watershed impacts, increased urban runoff and things like that.

    There was a handful of people who wanted answers to things that they could not answer; the what ifs and NIMBY type of questions.

    There will be other meetings, mostly PQ planning board meetings that will be helpful for those questions. I can post up schedules as they become available.
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