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    Conditions of the Gab trail below Switzers?

    Anyone ridden the Gab to JPL recently? I know below Switzers got pretty messed up with the storms a couple years ago, but was curious how it's looking these days.

    With a little work, this trail and it's 18 miles of almost all downhill could potentially be one of the best in California. If anyone knows of any trail days coming up for this, please let us know.

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    The Gab? Is that the same thing as Red Box? That's the only thing I know about that links up with the bottom of Switzers. There isn't really anywhere else to go out of that valley without a serious climb involved.
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    The lower section past Switzer's is ridable all the way down to JPL if you like hiking over boulders and creek crossings. The water was over 1 ft deep in some sections with no way around except to ride through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHidiot
    The Gab? Is that the same thing as Red Box? That's the only thing I know about that links up with the bottom of Switzers. There isn't really anywhere else to go out of that valley without a serious climb involved.
    Red Box is the name of the visitors center area that the Gabrielino trail runs through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHidiot
    There isn't really anywhere else to go out of that valley without a serious climb involved.
    Most would still consider it a downhill trail.
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    That must be why

    Quote Originally Posted by endo verendo
    Most would still consider it a downhill trail.
    People look at me weird when I ride up.

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    E, people give you weird looks for OTHER reasons...

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    Quote Originally Posted by noslogan
    People look at me weird when I ride up.

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    I would in no way consider that a downhill trail. I rode that during the winter at some point and it was fine, except for the dozens of creek crossings you had to walk....and the climbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHidiot
    I would in no way consider that a downhill trail
    I guess the 3460' of elevation drop doesn't count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by endo verendo
    I guess the 3460' of elevation drop doesn't count.
    not if you're riding up it.

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    rode it a couple weeks ago, it's fine all the way from Red Box to JPL.... stream xings aren't that bad right now.... no rain this year.

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    Rode Ken Burton this morning, water levels even lower than a week ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHidiot
    I would in no way consider that a downhill trail. I rode that during the winter at some point and it was fine, except for the dozens of creek crossings you had to walk....and the climbs.
    Yeah, that 800' of climbing is BRUTAL.

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    its back to how it was before the big rains.
    mostly ridable except for the big bouldery stream crossings.
    loads of hikers above switzers and all the way down to the waterfall turn off.
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    can't you just build skinnies across the creek crossings?
    oh wait, this is LA, not BC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dft
    can't you just build skinnies across the creek crossings?
    oh wait, this is LA, not BC.
    that and do you really want to build 15+ skinny bridges?

    on that topic, does anyone have the total number of creek crossings on Gab?

    i miss that trail- some sort of gethering might need to be organized- let's get DAS to come down again!!!

    all I know is that I'm not driving both time's ive done this ride my poor WRX loses paint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSSer
    that and do you really want to build 15+ skinny bridges?
    Thanks for volunteering!


    i miss that trail- some sort of gethering might need to be organized- let's get DAS to come down again!!!
    I think it's time! Let's do it!!


    all I know is that I'm not driving both time's ive done this ride my poor WRX loses paint.
    Uhrm yea.... I'll be in the... one of the other cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSSer
    that and do you really want to build 15+ skinny bridges?

    on that topic, does anyone have the total number of creek crossings on Gab?

    i miss that trail- some sort of gethering might need to be organized- let's get DAS to come down again!!!

    all I know is that I'm not driving both time's ive done this ride my poor WRX loses paint.
    if i lived close by and it was legal,in a hearbeat! you could prebuild them, install pretty fast, make it super flowy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dft
    you could prebuild them, install pretty fast, make it super flowy.
    You forgot, 'carry them for about six miles'. I'd like to see you carrying 12 or so 15-20' prebuilt bridges or are you going to call in a helicopter drop? Even with bridges it would still not even be close to flowy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTM
    Even with bridges it would still not even be close to flowy.
    The bridges would be really flowy.... as they're floating down the arroyo after the next rain. (if it ever rains again).
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    I rode it yesterday. It is in pretty good condition. There is one left hand turn before the debris dam that could be easily missed. Other than that, it is easy to follow. The water is low enough that you can hike-a-bike the larger stream crossings without getting your shoes wet.

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    A few bridges would still be nice though. Saves a lot of time going down.

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    Quick update on this trail.

    Had chance to ride the Gab from Red Box to JPL on Saturday. The trail is in good shape, almost the best it's ever been. The exposed climb toward Switzer falls has seen some improvement... widening and brush work. The exposed descent into the canyon just after that could still use a hair cut.

    About the same number of creek crossings require dismount below Switzers. Enough to be inconvenient, but not ruin the ride.

    The cliffhugging canyon section is looking better also, now all the eroded sections are rideable. I had forgotten how visually stunning this section is, and the pucker factor has increased now that the trail is even skinnier.

    Down in the Arroyo the trail has been re-established, except for the last 100 yards or so, it gets a little confusing until you find the first uphill switchback to get around the dam.

    Beyond that, the trail is elementary.

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    The Arroyo is rideable but at the big stram crossing, it can be very confusing. We came down from Ken Burton today. Overall it was nice with the exception of a lot of water flow.

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