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    Big Bear riding....

    Looking to venture out into new territory and want to get up to Big Bear and try some trails out. I'm from the high desert and have hit most of the local stuff around here and Marshall Canyon. I'm intermediate rider and looking for a fun challenge!
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    Going to be heading up there this coming Sunday.

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    Are you looking for XC or all mountain, DH? Lots of trails for all disiplines. Try Snow Summit Adventure Park for list assited riding, for XC trails, lots of trails on the Snow Summit side including the newly built Skyline trail and others, on the Fawnskin side there are some fire roads and also the Grout Bay/ Grays Peak trail which is over 7 miles of nice single track. Pick up "Follets trail map of Big Bear" all of the trails are represented, except the Skyline trail which is a new trail

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    Looking for trail riding...not much of dh guy! Desert trails are fun but I need new scenery and challenges. I hear SART is a great trail but not exactly sure where it's at. Going to google what I can find and go from there. Thanks for the input
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    Big Bear riding....

    A common starting place for the SART is at the Angelus Oaks post office. SART is amazing... The Hannah Flats/Grout Bay/Grey's Peak trail is great, too.

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    If you want a fun trail with some tech built into it (but not extreme), ride Exploration Trail in the Deerlick area on Hwy 330. You can shuttle to the top on pavement or just grind your way up. If you're feeling up to the challenge, pedal up the trail.

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    Hi gaiz, I'm new here and had a few questions about BB.

    I've got a 29er - XC/Trail bike w/ 130mm, figure I'll put it to some use while I go up this weekend for a friend's bday getaway.

    Haven't done any DH/FR riding on it, but wondering if there's something I should know before I head up. I usually don't wear much body armor riding, since I do more climbs and distance riding, but I was going to order some if not rent some for the trip.

    Any suggestions if it's not a good idea? I've seen videos of guys doing DH/FR on a XC bike, but I don't think there are many areas in BB where a DH bike is absolutely necessary, is there? Not going to blow out my suspension am I?

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    This is the roughest trail in the bike park. There are some out of bounds trails that are more extreme.
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    Thanks for the video reply! I think I'll do fine this weekend and gonna have a blast.

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    I've got video of the other two trails as well. They are a little smoother and faster.

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    are there only three ways down from the lift? if that's the toughest option, how does it rate against the stuff at mammoth? this seems more tame but not as well kept

    i'll be there this weekend btw...

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    Well, mammoth has a much wider range of terrain. I would say miracle mile and cruiser are similar to a flatter, easier version of follow me for the most part.

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    Agree on the follow me comparison...maybe a lil bit of lower velocity style with miracle mile as well?

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    How busy is it in Big Bear or Snow Summit for riding on Sundays?
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    When we went opening day there was about 300 riders. If you aren't doing the DH like miracle mile, you should be fine. Skyline has some amazing views and some fun terrain for xcrountry riding. Can't wait to go back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterMTB29 View Post
    How busy is it in Big Bear or Snow Summit for riding on Sundays?
    Sundays are vacant. It appears that in general the weekends are less busy than they were at the beginning of the season. The only time there are ever more than 30 second lift lines are 11am-1:30pm on Saturdays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirsam84 View Post
    maybe a lil bit of lower velocity style with miracle mile as well?
    Nah, even lower velocity (I assume you're talking about all velocity below mccoy station?) is significantly rougher, faster, and steeper I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini2k05 View Post
    Nah, even lower velocity (I assume you're talking about all velocity below mccoy station?) is significantly rougher, faster, and steeper I think.
    Ok, it's coming back to me now...you're right! Looser and more lil drops n stuff on lower velocity...although recently some of the switchbacks on Miracle have gone pretty rogue, but they will probably be fixing those...

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    Well I went up this weekend and rode Friday all-day and Sunday afternoon. Never done downhill like this before, so I gotta say it was blast, but would've liked a few more trails open. I was told some of the trails might be closed, I got lost a few times too since the map didn't match what was open I guess.

    Anyhow, I rode my 29er and did just fine. It really helped crawl over holes, roots and rocks at fast speeds, didn't feel out of place either. It was a bit tough getting around some turns, but maybe that's just my lack of experience, so I took them a bit slower.

    I'll be up again soon, that's for sure! Seems like the trails have changed since a few weeks ago based on youtube videos. I'm stoked to see what else they add or open later this season.

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    Anybody know when they might close for the season, plan to be down that way early Sept.

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    Big Bear riding....

    Heading up tomorrow. Anyone else?

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    Was hoping to go up this weekend but Pineknot campground is booked all month.

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    that turn at 4:38 kicked my butt. the entry was all wonky and i never got up enough nerve to hit it with enough speed to carry it so i just dismounted each time.



    Quote Originally Posted by lanceuppercut View Post
    This is the roughest trail in the bike park. There are some out of bounds trails that are more extreme.
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    You cannot even begin to compare mammoth and big bear. Miracle mile would be a difficult blue trail at mammoth (nevermind black or double black).

    There are 2 trails in the santa Monica mountains that are harder than miracle mile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vqdriver View Post
    that turn at 4:38 kicked my butt. the entry was all wonky and i never got up enough nerve to hit it with enough speed to carry it so i just dismounted each time.
    Last time I was up there it rained and the wood was wet. That thing is horribly dangerous when it is wet.

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    the new fixed up cruiser and westridge trail is more fun then miracle mile. really enjoying it.......

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    Yeah, pretty much stuck with that trail all Sunday this past weekend. I'm stoked to head up again sometime soon.

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    Yah a couple of weekends ago I spent the while day riding that same trail and had so much fun. Didn't see the need to play on cruiser or miracle mile. Maybe next weekend I'll spend the day on one of those two.

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    were you guys able to get enough speed to clear those table tops?

    even pumping the face and going down the ramp and through the berm without touching brakes i still had to pedal to clear them

    I saw a better rider than me clear them easily by going through the bridge with so much speed he ramped off the bridge where it starts dropping off, and landed halfway down the bridge, so he took much more speed into the berms and jumps

    But i cannot go around the bridge nearly that fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    were you guys able to get enough speed to clear those table tops?

    I saw a better rider than me clear them easily by going through the bridge with so much speed he ramped off the bridge where it starts dropping off, and landed halfway down the bridge, so he took much more speed into the berms and jumps
    It's not too bad, just carry as much speed up the bridge and around that turn as possible, and then sprint till you jump off the bridge. Should have plenty of speed then.

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    Yeah next time I'm there I'll pedal when the bridge straightens out before it drops off

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    I wish they had done a wooden berm at the entrance to the bridge to carry more speed in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    were you guys able to get enough speed to clear those table tops?

    even pumping the face and going down the ramp and through the berm without touching brakes i still had to pedal to clear them

    I saw a better rider than me clear them easily by going through the bridge with so much speed he ramped off the bridge where it starts dropping off, and landed halfway down the bridge, so he took much more speed into the berms and jumps

    But i cannot go around the bridge nearly that fast
    I wasn't clearing any table-tops the first day I went, it'd been my first few times actually riding DH. But I've got an XC 29er, so the 2nd day I went riding I did clear the first table-top once, and towards the end of the day I cleared the second table-top kinda sloppy. It picks up momentum quickly, so I was sketchy about going in too hot on a few berms at first. I realized I didn't have to pedal as much as other riders, so that was cool, but when I did pedal...I was droppin' other riders. (Wooot!)

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    Im going up there for the first time in a few weeks with a few buddies. I was wondering if a full face and pads are needed, or if a regular open face helmet will be enough?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blown240 View Post
    Im going up there for the first time in a few weeks with a few buddies. I was wondering if a full face and pads are needed, or if a regular open face helmet will be enough?

    Thanks!
    I was in the same boat last week. I usually sport my "sexy spandex" (as my GF calls it) when I ride out in OC since it's more XC riding I'm doing, but I'm glad I bought myself some gear last week.

    I figured if I ride at Snow Summit or anywhere else doing DH riding at least 4 times, I'd justify the purchases made for a FF helmet and body armor, because I'd probably be renting it all anyhow.

    Anyway....I crashed on my first ride. I have a cut on the inside of my lower left leg cuz my pedal scratched me, but I was covered in dirt on my left side. Didn't realize it til I got up, but my knee hit a rock when a I fell. Glad I got knee/shin pads. I crashed on my 2nd day riding taking a turn too fast, slid and fell on my right knee and used my elbow pads to catch myself. Glad I got those too.

    Here's the helmet I got, it's on sale: Six Six One Comp Shifted Helmet | Competitive Cyclist

    I feel much safer in it than not having one while doing DH. I would highly recommend knee/shin and elbow pads. Even if you don't use them that often, if you'll use them enough times to justify the purchase, it's worth not getting a nasty injury.

    You can always rent all the gear up there though. Cheers!

    You can also rent all the gear though

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirsam84 View Post
    I wish they had done a wooden berm at the entrance to the bridge to carry more speed in...
    Nah, if they did that you'd have way too much spend. Those 3 trails have been laid out for speed control very deliberately and very well IMO. Expert and above level DH riders don't have to brake much in general on those trails, and all the features can be at least cleared with minimal pedaling effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane Jeff View Post
    Are you looking for XC or all mountain, DH? Lots of trails for all disiplines. Try Snow Summit Adventure Park for list assited riding, for XC trails, lots of trails on the Snow Summit side including the newly built Skyline trail and others, on the Fawnskin side there are some fire roads and also the Grout Bay/ Grays Peak trail which is over 7 miles of nice single track. Pick up "Follets trail map of Big Bear" all of the trails are represented, except the Skyline trail which is a new trail
    Gray's beak is really nice

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    Snow Summit has a free map that pretty much shows every legal trail on the south side of the lake. Follets is good, too.

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    erickbrain - Thanks for the info, Ive got a full face, knee and elbow pads ill wear. My buddies that Im going with will have to either rent, or be careful. Its a bummer, because my one buddy crashes alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blown240 View Post
    erickbrain - Thanks for the info, Ive got a full face, knee and elbow pads ill wear. My buddies that Im going with will have to either rent, or be careful. Its a bummer, because my one buddy crashes alot.

    Yikes! I hope your buddy doesn't bruise easily. Enjoy the ride, I got some friends that just went up today. Lovin' it.

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    fwiw, the only protective gear i had was my roadie helmet and long sleeve t shirt. other than a few scrapes i was pretty clean all day. all day until late afternoon that is. after fatigue starting setting in, i couldn't follow a line to save my life. my mind slowed way down and couldn't keep up with my eyes. every rock i saw, i hit. two good tumbles and both my lower legs and elbows were bumped, cut, scraped, and drenched in blood.

    got in two more runs after that tho.....

    i'm getting pads for sure next time. also, fyi. both of the guys i went up with rented their bikes and pads and the pads were really really stinky. just to keep in mind.

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    Big Bear riding....

    With all of the deals on Chainlove and competitive cyclist, you can get a full kit of elbow, knee, and shin guards, and a full face helmet for about $150. If you're going to SS, you're going to get better and more aggressive and you'll crash harder. As they say - better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

    All Sport has some good packages, too.
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    Just got back from Big Bear... rode Grout Bay/ Grays Peak trail Saturday, Skyline trail/ Pineknot today... miles of great single track...

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    I know everybody has a different opinion, but I've found that the ability to clear those tabletops doesn't depend on how fast you ride across the bridge, it's about how fast you hit the right hand paver berm. You can roll the bridge at a walking pace and as long as you don't touch any brakes from when the bridge straightens out until the jumps you'll have the perfect amount of speed. Like Gemini2K said, those trails are designed very well and the key to most of the sections is minimal braking.

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    I went up on Saturday for the first time and had a blast. We rode all three trails then I found myself on "cruiser" for most of the day, probably the least technical of the three. So I made it through the day with only some minor pedal rash not too bad for a rookie. I wore my trail helmet but next time out I will for sure be wearing a full face. Also it was good to see a lot of kids riding and ripping it up. (future of our sport)

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    Is there any good backroad camping in the area? Planning on coming down early Saturday morning, riding, crashing somewhere in the bed of the truck, riding again Sunday before heading home.

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    Quick Question:

    How much bike do you need to be able to enjoy the trails at Summit? There are 4 of us going, me and a buddy are on Yeti 575s, another on a 4" mongoose Otero, and the last on a hard tail 29er.

    Im sure the 575s will be fine, but what about the other 2?

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    I took my Scott Genius 930, XC 29er with 130 travel, and it was awesome! I saw one guy riding a hardtail 29er and another guy riding a xc 26" bike, didn't see them have much problems. I think it's all dependent on how fast they plan to ride or if they want to get some air. I think they'd be fine, but if they don't like, maybe just rent one the next time.

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    I'm gonna head up there August 18th and 24th if anyone wants to go ride. I want to get a few more rides in before they close in september

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    As said above there's a big spread of bikes from hardtails to full on downhill bikes. Myself I wouldn't ride with less than FS 140mm but that's me. Go up and check it out its a lot of fun. Also they have some nice rental/demo bikes for a pretty good deal. Trek, Intense, KHS. Tip, make sure your brakes are working good you can generate a lot of speed. There's also a shop you can get some parts if you break something. Tubes, Tires, Cables , ect. Lunch is good also, seven bucks with your lift ticket.

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    What's the last day they are open?

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    Sept 14th I believe

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    None of my buddies want to drive up to bigbear from san Diego so if anyone lives up there or makes the trip a lot I'm up for riding.

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    That's the day I'm planning on going. I bet it will be crowded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor Lord of Thunder View Post
    Is there any good backroad camping in the area? Planning on coming down early Saturday morning, riding, crashing somewhere in the bed of the truck, riding again Sunday before heading home.
    Yes only in Yellow Post no water except site #25 and no fires.

    https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?gl=u...f2a5934e8be2f9

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    Anyone going up on the 31st or 1st for the day that I can tag along with? I live in vista and can help with gas. I just don't have a car I'd be willing to drive out there to keep it cheap.

    Edit: wrong dates.

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    I might try to go the 30th. I live in mission valley so vista is on the way up. Pm me if you want to work something out.

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    just saw the post on fb, new 22ft jump feature on miracle mile! oh man, oh man... someone please post pics or video if they have it.

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    Just checked SS site and open weekends only after Sept 14 till winter season starts.(snow) Could stay open into late November.

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    tons of pics going up this morning on the snow summit page of the new jump features on miracle mile. if anyone has more pics or (preferably) vid, please post! super excited to see the new 22 footer. step down into it to get speed

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    Here's the new jump at 25 seconds

    Not me.<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/fUxNLbyyLq0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanceuppercut View Post
    Not me.<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/fUxNLbyyLq0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    That was pretty awesome even if the video was sped up.
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    What makes you think the video was sped up?

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    well that was ballsy on a full dH rig.

    nice move

    he almost ate it though, that would have been nasty, the landing looked like he didn't finish the rotation and came down very nose heavy.

    still way better than anything I can do.

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    Ummm, that wasn't sped up at all. I think you need to rude faster.

    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    That was pretty awesome even if the video was sped up.

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    Wasn't expecting that. Landing almost turned ugly though especially with that guy right behind him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini2k05 View Post
    Ummm, that wasn't sped up at all. I think you need to rude faster.
    I'm gonna agree with klure, after seeing the initial edit. This guy added music, presumably to cover up his chipmunk voice. The video got shorter too.

    Still badass.

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    Another angle<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/h-LE6U-dzts" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    I'm gonna agree with klure, after seeing the initial edit. This guy added music, presumably to cover up his chipmunk voice. The video got shorter too.

    Still badass.
    yeah i think they speed up the twisty trail parts and then left the straights and jumps at normal speed

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    does anyone know if you can take miracle mile and bypass the big jump? im an intermediate rider at best and dont think i could take a 20ft jump on my giant trance..

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    Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
    does anyone know if you can take miracle mile and bypass the big jump? im an intermediate rider at best and dont think i could take a 20ft jump on my giant trance..
    It's not a gap, you can just roll it.

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    Yeah from what I have seen from pictures, it's a big table style jump and you can roll it. That's all I'm going to do, I can't jump to save my life. Although this jump might make me wanna learn

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    Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
    does anyone know if you can take miracle mile and bypass the big jump? im an intermediate rider at best and dont think i could take a 20ft jump on my giant trance..
    Miracle Mile is an advanced trail, black diamond. Definitely not suitable for intermediate riders. There are other easier trails on the mountain you should probably stick too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini2k05 View Post
    Miracle Mile is an advanced trail, black diamond. Definitely not suitable for intermediate riders. There are other easier trails on the mountain you should probably stick too.
    Yes it is an advanced trail, but if you don't push your limits and stay on the easier trails all the time you never progress as a rider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini2k05 View Post
    Miracle Mile is an advanced trail, black diamond. Definitely not suitable for intermediate riders. There are other easier trails on the mountain you should probably stick too.
    I wouldn't take a beginner down it, but it's hardly only for advanced riders. I consider myself intermediate and did just fine down it my first time..even had fun on it my 2nd and 3rd. Even the big jumps you can just roll over the first time. Give it a try, OP, but go with a buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    I wouldn't take a beginner down it, but it's hardly only for advanced riders. I consider myself intermediate and did just fine down it my first time..even had fun on it my 2nd and 3rd. Even the big jumps you can just roll over the first time. Give it a try, OP, but go with a buddy.
    Thanks. Gotta learn somehow! I'm not afraid of taking a tumble, I've certainly had my fair share lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post
    Thanks. Gotta learn somehow! I'm not afraid of taking a tumble, I've certainly had my fair share lol
    Just bring some armor. You may not use it but you'll approach things more confidently because you're protected, and everyone's better when they approach riding confidently.

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    yea i got elbow and knee pads all lined up.

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    Re: Big Bear riding....

    For the guys who haven't seen it

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    I have been riding for about 9 months when I went. Some of the areas are more technical than others but as long as you are respectfully and curtious of the more advanced riders you should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonjm View Post
    yeah i think they speed up the twisty trail parts and then left the straights and jumps at normal speed
    Ah I only watched the 5 seconds before and after the flip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Even the big jumps you can just roll over the first time. Give it a try, OP, but go with a buddy.
    Rolling over lips ruins them. Either hit the jump or go completely around it (unless it's a wood takeoff of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini2k05 View Post
    Rolling over lips ruins them. Either hit the jump or go completely around it (unless it's a wood takeoff of course)
    If its soft at the top, yes. Those shits are hard as a rock, though. Unless you're braking hard up the ramp, you're not going to do any damage to it, and it's useful to get a look at the landing before you try and launch yourself off of it. Even if you DO do damage (which you won't), you're paying $30 (+$7 for a damn tasty lunch!) for a lift ticket which includes trail maintenance. It's not like its Jedi where all the jumps are soft, maintenance is done sporadically by volunteers, and there are super easy alternates around all of the jumps. To stuff like that, I fully agree with you - hit it or go around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    If its soft at the top, yes. Those shits are hard as a rock, though. Unless you're braking hard up the ramp, you're not going to do any damage to it, and it's useful to get a look at the landing before you try and launch yourself off of it. Even if you DO do damage (which you won't), you're paying $30 (+$7 for a damn tasty lunch!) for a lift ticket which includes trail maintenance.
    Buddy, that is a really bad attitude to have towards trail etiquette. If you have the skill to hit a jump that size the full distance, you should have no reason to roll over it the first time without clearing the lip. And if you don't have the skill to hit that jump you should try to protect the shape and integrity of it for those who can and are behind you by at least clearing the lip. You might not think you do damage by rolling over lips, but you do. Just jump past it a few feet please. That's what a tabletop is for! Tell your friends too.

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    From the pic it looks like they may have a small little bypass trail right to the left of the jump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIaco290 View Post
    Buddy, that is a really bad attitude to have towards trail etiquette. If you have the skill to hit a jump that size the full distance, you should have no reason to roll over it the first time without clearing the lip. And if you don't have the skill to hit that jump you should try to protect the shape and integrity of it for those who can and are behind you by at least clearing the lip. You might not think you do damage by rolling over lips, but you do. Just jump past it a few feet please. That's what a tabletop is for! Tell your friends too.
    Sorry, but you're not going to convince me that it's uncool to check out your landing before you try to hit a jump, especially when you're not super confident in your skills. I'm not going to hit a jump I've never even seen before at full speed, especially when my local trails don't have those kinds of features.

    When I "roll over" a jump, I might get a few inches of air. It's almost impossible to actually roll over the lip unless you have the perfect amount of speed to do so, so this argument is probably moot. You have to leave room in your trail etiquette rules for people to learn, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    You have to leave room in your trail etiquette rules for people to learn, though.
    Go around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini2k05 View Post
    Go around.
    Preachy preachy, dude. Going around doesn't help you get a feel for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    If its soft at the top, yes. Those shits are hard as a rock, though. Unless you're braking hard up the ramp, you're not going to do any damage to it, and it's useful to get a look at the landing before you try and launch yourself off of it. Even if you DO do damage (which you won't), you're paying $30 (+$7 for a damn tasty lunch!) for a lift ticket which includes trail maintenance. It's not like its Jedi where all the jumps are soft, maintenance is done sporadically by volunteers, and there are super easy alternates around all of the jumps. To stuff like that, I fully agree with you - hit it or go around.
    honestly your attitude $ucks,,....I said it and it is true....feeling entiltled since you paid your 30 bucks for them to do trail maintenance....it is hard enough for Snow Summit to keep up with building new trails and features. plus they have done pavers on a lot of turns. Give them a break...there are ride arounds to all jumps...don't ruin lips....just pop them a few feet ....BUT NEVER ROLL LIPS....if you ever did maintenance on trails then you would know my words are true...to argue shows your lack of doing trail work.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS View Post
    honestly your attitude $ucks,,....I said it and it is true....feeling entiltled since you paid your 30 bucks for them to do trail maintenance....it is hard enough for Snow Summit to keep up with building new trails and features. plus they have done pavers on a lot of turns. Give them a break...there are ride arounds to all jumps...don't ruin lips....just pop them a few feet ....BUT NEVER ROLL LIPS....if you ever did maintenance on trails then you would know my words are true...to argue shows your lack of doing trail work.....
    Again, read my following post when I talk about how I "roll" jumps, then get off of your internet high horse. Actually rolling lips (no air) and doing so repeatedly is bad for jumps, no shit, but they're built for people's pleasure, and everyone deserves a chance to ride them. Someone like the OP I was responding to IS entitled to learn, if it means blowing out berms because they carried too much speed into it (an error) or actually rolling a lip because they wanted to get a feel for the ramp but didn't carry enough speed (an error), it's just fine. His $30 in lieu of trail work earns him his right to make a damn mistake. It's not a big deal, and doesn't warrant a bolded caps command. We are all adults here..

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    anyone know if they will stay open past sept 14th?

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    I thought I saw in earlier posts that said they would be open only on weekends provided good weather.

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    In the past, they've stayed open into October. (Before they started managing the bike park again)

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    Took the hardtail up there this weekend for an XC ride. Got to ride Skyline finally - excellent trail! Flows real nice, so much better than taking the fireroad over to the other trails. Big thanks to those who built the trail!

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    Is that the trail that runs alongside the 2N10? I think they were still completing it last time I was up there. Are there any jumps or obstacles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Island20v View Post
    Is that the trail that runs alongside the 2N10? I think they were still completing it last time I was up there. Are there any jumps or obstacles?
    That's the one. There's some little jumps off rocks and stumps you can catch air off of but it's a smooth XC trail not a downhill trail.

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    Nice. Figured there might be a couple tabletops in the downhill segments. That's cool though.

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    The riding was great yesterday! The rain from Saturday kept the dust down and the soil tacky. They've done some great work up there this year.
    I was talking to an e player up there and he gave me this info in their plan when opening next year: finish the top of Westridge, make a 6 mike long beginner run to keep the advanced trails flowing to advanced riders, and build a double black diamond run on the east side of the Mtn. He specifically said the double black diamond will have drops, etc.

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