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    Where's TSP??? Anyone riding this nice Hot weekend?

    Where is everyone? Are we going to have to do a 'where are they now?' thread soon? Do anyone riding this weekend? Been a while since I've been on the road bike-may need to go that route-also anyone doing the Mt. Tam Dirt Fondo coming up? I think some people are racing around that date-luckily for me I'm way to slow to be racing so thinking about trying this.

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    I'm riding Sunday morning. Let's do Nisene.

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    I'm gonna be heading over the hill on the cx bike, on sat morning me thinks. hitting up some epic fire road decents/climbs. YEEEEHAW.

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    Where's Nisene?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Where's Nisene?
    Santa Cruz. The Forest of Nisene Marks is adjacent to Demo.

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    Don't tease me-let's go!

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    Ales & Trails at China Camp Home
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    im down for sunday nisene if i can hitch a ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Don't tease me-let's go!
    think i'm going to be anti-social and grind some road and a bit of dirt. too damn hot this weekend, so hoping i can get an early ride in. i almost never get out early so who knows and if it gets too hot i'm just going to get drunk.

    you're welcome to join if you like, but you'll have to wait for me. mission peak steepness, about 6k+ 50+ miles in 4 climbing spurts....but i talk alot of **** and can't execute.

    i've not been in the mood to drive to a trail lately.

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    I'm running from the hot weather, as well. I think SC is the place.

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    WTH!!! You guys can't handle the heat???? Waaah! Let's do Kennedy at high noon or STP and include Joyce trail!!! Why 12-let's start at 2 pm!
    SC sounds good too! Road ride??? Saturday??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I'm riding Sunday morning. Let's do Nisene.
    Any way to convince you to ride on saturday instead? I can't do sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    WTH!!! You guys can't handle the heat???? Waaah! Let's do Kennedy at high noon or STP and include Joyce trail!!! Why 12-let's start at 2 pm!
    SC sounds good too! Road ride??? Saturday??
    I'm heading over the hill on the cx bike saturday morning if you're interested. Leaving 9ish, up lgct, old sc highway to aptos creek fire road to sc then back that way or up soquel sj rd or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Why 12-let's start at 2 pm!
    SC sounds good too! Road ride??? Saturday??
    that's siesta time. what's wrong with you???

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    Siesta is 2-4 and all day Thursday's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Siesta is 2-4 and all day Thursday's!
    I'll be your Kennedy weekend huckleberry !
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    Did I hear Nisene/Demo? I'll check back after tonight's PR ride and see what you guys decided on.

    SJhiker, me and few other members might do something biggish on Saturday if you're interested. Pace will be somewhat social.

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    Kennedy never fails me-thanks Rascal!
    Maybe we can get a saturday and a Sunday ride going? Bassn details!

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    Depends on how long you're riding on Saturday. My limit is about 30mi or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Kennedy never fails me-thanks Rascal!
    Maybe we can get a saturday and a Sunday ride going? Bassn details!
    I'll have more details later today. Our route and destination is undecided right now. What we do know, leaving the area and heading towards cooler stomping grounds will be in order

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    Depends on how long you're riding on Saturday. My limit is about 30mi or so.
    30 miles on dirt is a good solid ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I'm riding Sunday morning. Let's do Nisene.
    So what's the plan for Sunday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjhiker View Post
    Any way to convince you to ride on saturday instead? I can't do sunday.
    The running joke with me, is, I need one keyboard shortcut that says, "I have to work..." because I work nearly every day of the week. Don't get paid for those days, but hey, fcuk my life! Commission based jobs = free work + lots of hope and desperation.
    Quote Originally Posted by rho View Post
    I'm heading over the hill on the cx bike saturday morning if you're interested. Leaving 9ish, up lgct, old sc highway to aptos creek fire road to sc then back that way or up soquel sj rd or something.
    Big CX ride sounds cherry - if I didn't have to work, I'd join you on that. Is this what... a 70miler? All y'all need CX bikes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    So what's the plan for Sunday?
    What do you want to do? Now I'm leaning more towards Wilder loop - need single track. Fire roads, don't need. I don't know the route from Nisene to Demo, because usually we turn the Nisene climb to a CX ride. I went through Demo once with my bro, but can't remember the loop.

    You need a CX bike. TJ knows! I know Brett is throwing one together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    The running joke with me, is, I need one keyboard shortcut that says, "I have to work..." because I work nearly every day of the week. Don't get paid for those days, but hey, fcuk my life! Commission based jobs = free work + lots of hope and desperation.

    Big CX ride sounds cherry - if I didn't have to work, I'd join you on that. Is this what... a 70miler? All y'all need CX bikes.

    What do you want to do? Now I'm leaning more towards Wilder loop - need single track. Fire roads, don't need. I don't know the route from Nisene to Demo, because usually we turn the Nisene climb to a CX ride. I went through Demo once with my bro, but can't remember the loop.

    You need a CX bike. TJ knows! I know Brett is throwing one together.
    If I don't ride on Saturday I'll be glad to join you guys for Nisene/Demo loop. We could easily get 35 miles and over 5k worth of climbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    The running joke with me, is, I need one keyboard shortcut that says, "I have to work..." because I work nearly every day of the week. Don't get paid for those days, but hey, fcuk my life! Commission based jobs = free work + lots of hope and desperation.

    Big CX ride sounds cherry - if I didn't have to work, I'd join you on that. Is this what... a 70miler? All y'all need CX bikes.
    Hell to the yes on the cx bikes. You can do everything around here on a cx bike, aside from some of demo, some of you see and skeggs.

    But as for dirt, you can climb aptos creek fire road with a road bike on 23's or 25s, so if anyone wants to join we can head down soquel-sj road, get lunch and then have a stupid ride back up the dirt to the ultimate goal of pie at the summit store!

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    2 guy's climbing

    LG man and I are prolly hitting Limekiln/overgrown in the shade/part way Saturday morning 9:15 ish to El Sombroso for an out and back for 3k of up. Out and back to the woods/Kennedy intersection in pic for 2750 from alma bridge rd. Add a bit to go to Sombroso. Where's TSP??? Anyone riding this nice Hot weekend?-0728121233-1.jpg
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    Looks like Ill be riding my singlespeed at STCP Saturday morning. Anyone else interested in a sufferfest? Im planning on being at the Harry@Camden trailhead entrance around 9:00AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    The running joke with me, is, I need one keyboard shortcut that says, "I have to work..." because I work nearly every day of the week. Don't get paid for those days, but hey, fcuk my life! Commission based jobs = free work + lots of hope and desperation.

    Big CX ride sounds cherry - if I didn't have to work, I'd join you on that. Is this what... a 70miler? All y'all need CX bikes.

    What do you want to do? Now I'm leaning more towards Wilder loop - need single track. Fire roads, don't need. I don't know the route from Nisene to Demo, because usually we turn the Nisene climb to a CX ride. I went through Demo once with my bro, but can't remember the loop.

    You need a CX bike. TJ knows! I know Brett is throwing one together.
    Well funny thing is the contractor working on the house really wants my Scott road bike-so if we work a deal out-I was going to either buy another road bike or possibly a CX. I really do like road riding though-maybe ill build one up either way-hopefully by winter. I also want to build up a SS so may have to toss a coin.
    Not sure about riding that far on Saturday and then going out again Sunday-thanks though-my son just came down with a sore throat last night so need to see how he is doing by Sunday. I was thinking of possibly riding my old Cannondale M900 SS to St. Joes from my place to see how I do up-baby steps-was toying with just going to Kennedy-but I know failure would be waiting for me there. So if my son is doing better Ill either do a road ride to Kennedy, SS to St Joes-early in the A.M.-otherwise my son wakes up and I end up not leaving. Sunday---Dion-you choose the route or if anyone can lead us? Let's go out and have some fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient rascal View Post
    LG man and I are prolly hitting Limekiln/overgrown in the shade/part way Saturday morning 9:15 ish to El Sombroso for an out and back for 3k of up. Out and back to the woods/Kennedy intersection in pic for 2750 from alma bridge rd. Add a bit to go to Sombroso. Click image for larger version. 

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    You should expand your horizons & ride something over the hill, 30 minute drive to cool weather and kick ass single track, just saying in case you ever get tired of riding hot fire roads with Nat's swirling around your face
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    You should expand your horizons & ride something over the hill, 30 minute drive to cool weather and kick ass single track, just saying in case you ever get tired of riding hot fire roads with Nat's swirling around your face
    We do hit Demo,Skeggs and the Gap but only on occasion. This prolly sounds crazy but LG man and I like Sierra Azul. We have a terminal case of "Porkstacker syndrome"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Well funny thing is the contractor working on the house really wants my Scott road bike-so if we work a deal out-I was going to either buy another road bike or possibly a CX.
    I highly recommend the CX bike. you can build it with road gearing and with road tires (and discs! or mini-v's) or a compact crank and a road cassette, and its 99% as fast as a full on road bike and much more able to do all around stuff.
    Especially because all these stupid road frames now have frames that can barely clear a 25c tire.

    Get two wheel sets, a fast light set for roadie tires and a sturdier set with knobbies for dirt shenanigans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rho View Post
    I highly recommend the CX bike. you can build it with road gearing and with road tires (and discs! or mini-v's) or a compact crank and a road cassette, and its 99% as fast as a full on road bike and much more able to do all around stuff.
    Especially because all these stupid road frames now have frames that can barely clear a 25c tire.

    Get two wheel sets, a fast light set for roadie tires and a sturdier set with knobbies for dirt shenanigans.
    What are a couple good frames to look at? I think I"ll probably build one up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rho View Post
    I highly recommend the CX bike. you can build it with road gearing and with road tires (and discs! or mini-v's) or a compact crank and a road cassette, and its 99% as fast as a full on road bike and much more able to do all around stuff.
    Especially because all these stupid road frames now have frames that can barely clear a 25c tire.

    Get two wheel sets, a fast light set for roadie tires and a sturdier set with knobbies for dirt shenanigans.
    I'm building one with the above plan, it should be awesome if I'm strong enough to handle it. The only downside is the gearing. I picked 50/34 front and 11-28 rear, as I'm not strong enough to climb these stupid roads without low gearing. I don't think it's low enough though. The only thing I fear is that I won't be able to climb dirt with this setup, but these roads are just as steep so I don't know yet. I guess I'll get stronger as I stop every hundred feet of elevation at 34-28 to find a lung, but it sure sounds like a world of hurt. 12% grade, 34-28...shudder.

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    You'll be just fine. Just think you're on a single speed. Only issue is that on loose stuff you need to stay seated for the most part unless you're good at balancing weight as you transition from sitting to mashing.

    I'm 34/28 as my granny and I'm ok for the most part, except for the Stanford side of mission peak. Also, don't forget you can always run a 32 with a long cage rd or even a triple with a 28 in the rear. Whatever lets you enjoy your ride, do it.

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    Robert: Sell your road bike and get a CX! It's the only "road bike" I have. I think TJ is in the same boat. I think it would be sweet to do these epic dual sport rides as a group. Right now it's just TJ and me from TSP.

    Okay, so Luis says he's down for Sunday. Let's do the single track we missed in Wilder - I know we didn't do some of the trails in there - I'm thinkin gthe traditional Wilder loop, maybe exit through UCSC, and do the tour. This time we can throw in a tour of SC.

    In the morning, I gotta go be a Catholic and hit up mass at 7:30am... I'll be out at 8:30am and probably can get down to SC by 10:00am. You guys good with that? OR. We can car pool. My car only fit's two bikes - Robert, shall we bring the Chebby?

    Who else is down?

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    Now we're talkin! Come on Holland and go ride! Sounds like a plan-just had the Chevy worked on for just such an occasion. I can take Dion and up to 1-2 more depending on how much we want to get to know each other! Kind of like the Francois man soup picture-I have a bench seat up front-and the one in the back-
    Dion-so youre going to St Leo's? You going to bring your bike and I drive from my place? Anyone else? Meeting spot somewhere like last time for everyone?
    On another note-hopefully I can work out a deal for my Scott with this guy-otherwise I'll still get a CX-just may take a bit longer. I can't fund another build that quick without pushing my luck-I just got my Chineese carbon rims-so need to build up the wheels for the Pivot. I may also put the Enduro frame and shock up for sale to see if I can sell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Now we're talkin! Come on Holland and go ride! Sounds like a plan-just had the Chevy worked on for just such an occasion. I can take Dion and up to 1-2 more depending on how much we want to get to know each other! Kind of like the Francois man soup picture-I have a bench seat up front-and the one in the back-
    Dion-so youre going to St Leo's? You going to bring your bike and I drive from my place? Anyone else? Meeting spot somewhere like last time for everyone?
    On another note-hopefully I can work out a deal for my Scott with this guy-otherwise I'll still get a CX-just may take a bit longer. I can't fund another build that quick without pushing my luck-I just got my Chineese carbon rims-so need to build up the wheels for the Pivot. I may also put the Enduro frame and shock up for sale to see if I can sell it.
    HA! Dude, you think I'll trust my bike to be sitting in the St. Leo's ghetto parking lot with the crackheads around the corner?!

    How about it? 9:30am at your house?

    I'll just come home after mass, grab my stuff, and go to your house. PM us your address!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Right now it's just TJ and me from TSP.

    Lies.

    Also, Sunday will be my last day to ride in San Jose. Wooooooooooooo! or is it AWWWWWW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorbacon View Post
    Lies.

    Also, Sunday will be my last day to ride in San Jose. Wooooooooooooo! or is it AWWWWWW?
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    True. Damn work and moving. I'm making it a point to ride with y'all on sunday. Don't care where it is. I'll be the hefty fella. Packed on some pounds this summer :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    . I can take Dion and up to 1-2 more depending on how much we want to get to know each other! Kind of like the Francois man soup picture-I have a bench seat up front-and the one in the back-
    Dion-so youre going to St Leo's? You going to bring your bike and I drive from my place? Anyone else? Meeting spot somewhere like last time for everyone?
    I would have to roll with you guys if i am going. so please save me a seat and pm the final details. thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmHolland View Post
    I'm building one with the above plan, it should be awesome if I'm strong enough to handle it. The only downside is the gearing. I picked 50/34 front and 11-28 rear, as I'm not strong enough to climb these stupid roads without low gearing. I don't think it's low enough though. The only thing I fear is that I won't be able to climb dirt with this setup, but these roads are just as steep so I don't know yet. I guess I'll get stronger as I stop every hundred feet of elevation at 34-28 to find a lung, but it sure sounds like a world of hurt. 12% grade, 34-28...shudder.
    you can also run mtb touring cranks for a 28 or so low and a 42ish "middle" ring, or just go full retro grouch and get a road touring tripple for low gearing. Heck run a medium cage and a mtb 32 tooth rear and you can spin up a lot of stuff.

    Only issue is that with the mtb cassette you almost have to run a double up front to use a medium cage mech or use a long cage with a tripple or greater than a 10 - 16tooth difference.

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    Can I build a CX with the parts off my Enduro-I have a XTR triple 9 speed crankset and rear drailleur and cassette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Can I build a CX with the parts off my Enduro-I have a XTR triple 9 speed crankset and rear drailleur and cassette.
    I don't think the BB spacing will be correct. The "Ride with the Wife Bike" (my Leader frame that I raced at Sea Otter) is now fully outfitted with 29'er wheels. They friggin' FIT! (with 700 X 37 tires). So, go get yourself a Surly Cross Check and take your MTB parts and trasfer them over. Then, grab a set of 29'er wheels with some CX tires and mount them. They will WORK.

    In fact, Brett is building his Leader 510H frame into a pseudo CX monster death machine whatchmacallit.

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    I'd be up for TSP Wilder Sunday (plus some extras ). What time and where? Any carpool from San Jose?

    Bassn, my riding Wilder Sunday wouldn't preclude me from riding it Sat too, if Wilder's what the group decides on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rho View Post
    I highly recommend the CX bike. you can build it with road gearing and with road tires (and discs! or mini-v's) or a compact crank and a road cassette, and its 99% as fast as a full on road bike and much more able to do all around stuff.
    Especially because all these stupid road frames now have frames that can barely clear a 25c tire.
    I dunno man; some local road bike club (hint from San Jose) member might tell you to get a real bike as you pass them

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    [QUOTE=Dion;9581948]I don't think the BB spacing will be correct. The "Ride with the Wife Bike" (my Leader frame that I raced at Sea Otter) is now fully outfitted with 29'er wheels. They friggin' FIT! (with 700 X 37 tires). So, go get yourself a Surly Cross Check and take your MTB parts and trasfer them over. Then, grab a set of 29'er wheels with some CX tires and mount them. They will WORK.

    In fact, Brett is building his Leader 510H frame into a pseudo CX monster death machine whatchmacallit.[/QUOTE
    Jenson is sold out til end of month. I think I can almost build one with parts from my bikes. I'll have to get more info from you. If I can use my Enduro drivetrain that would be good-and if I only need wheels for the most part-ill hold on to my Scott. Maybe I'll order some Chinese carbon rims this weekend.

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    Tushar, it looks like the group will be hitting up Wilder tomorrow. If anyone is interested in the ride feel free to chime in. The pace will be flowy and fun. So far it will be me, Craig, John, Dpham, Tosa, and Mbolt. SJhiker? Nelson? Any others?

    I'll start another thread to get a bit more exposure...

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    Robert, you got room for me Sunday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tosa View Post
    Robert, you got room for me Sunday?
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    Alright. I'm down for Wilder Sunday. 9:30am at Robert's house - we'll do the classic loop-a-roni.

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