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    What kind of bike/tires are you guys using?

    Trek Superfly 100 Pro with Conti X-King 29x2.2 set up tubeless.

    Mostly riding in Auburn or XC trails in Sacramento.
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    Commencal Meta 55- Excavator 2.35 DTC 1ply up front/ WTB wolverine 2.2 folding comp 27tpi rear. both with tubes.
    I have been riding and racing these tires around California all year.
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    Pretty happy with these tires/bikes in Santa Cruz mtn redwood duff and late-summer hardpack:

    Mojo HD (AM bike) - Hans Dampf front, Bronson rear
    On-One Lurcher (XC hardtail) - Racing Ralph 2.4 front (they don't make them in 2.4 anymore ), Maxxis Ikon rear.
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    Rear 27.5 wolverine 2.2 / Ardent Tire 27.5x2.25 front . I like to climb on hardpack with
    loose sprinkled in on top . I ride on a paved bike path about 2.5 miles then up steep dirt hills and then go fast down the fire road and some cow trails - straightaways leading into off camber turns . The Ardent sticks like glue and is great on front and is ok for the climb because the front end want to come up when I climb. The Ardent corners great and I can lean the bike with confidence and hold my line on turns .I had a Ardent on the rear but it stuck so good I was a gear or 2 slower so I switched to the wolverine 2.2 and it works great on the hardpack uphills.
    This setup works great for me but the weather is changing and now .
    I need to find some tires that will shed mud so I can keep climbing and long as I can this winter. My plan now is for Ardent front and rear . I also got a new SCHWALBE RACING RALPH 27.5 X 2.25 ready to try out its 585 grams .

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    Trek Fuel EX8 and just put on WTB Wolverine 26x2.2 front and rear. Kind of an impulse buy last Friday at Performance Bike as they were on sale for $25 each. Have one good ride on them in rocky (granite) terrain and they were awesome.

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    What kind of bike/tires are you guys using?

    I am riding a Diamondback Sortie Comp, I just switched to a Wolverine 26x2.3 on the back and a Weiwolf 26x2.4 on the front.

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    What kind of bike/tires are you guys using?

    Spec enduro 26, minion dhf 2.5 Exo front, minion dhr2 tr rear 2.35 but when it wears out I think I will try a high roller tr 2.35

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    Looks like you guys are using much chunkier tires than me... am I missing out?

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    Spec stumpjumper carbon, have spec tires on it now that are about worn and will replace with conti mountiain king 2.4 (very small for a 2.4 though).

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    2.4 Nobby Nic Evo TLR (26") front and back on a 5" bike...

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    Do you guys think I should swap my 29x2.2 X-Kings for some 29x2.4 Mountain Kings when these wear out?

    I'm a big fan of trails like the Foresthill Divide.

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    I am no tire expert, but recently put the mountain king 2.4 tires on one of my xc bikes. I have always been a fan of conti tires (car and bike), and like these a lot so far...in fact, I bought them for my other bike as well.

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    Re: What kind of bike/tires are you guys using?

    Currently very happy with 2.35 Hans Dampf front, 2.2 Trail King rear. Riding in Nevada City, Auburn, Downieville, Tahoe.

    I've been less than impressed with Nobby NICs (torn thin sidewalls) and Nevegals (fast wearing, not confident cornering).

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    Specialized Stumpjumper 26". Hans Dampf 2.35 front and rear tubeless.

    Mostly Nevada City, Auburn and Downieville with occasional trips to Tahoe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
    Do you guys think I should swap my 29x2.2 X-Kings for some 29x2.4 Mountain Kings when these wear out?

    I'm a big fan of trails like the Foresthill Divide.
    I see that lots of folks, including myself, use a lighter/faster rolling tire on the back and more chunky up front for typical norcal trail/AM riding. So, if I were you, I'd save the 2.2's for the rear, and just replace the front with the 2.4. The rear tire sliding out is no biggie, but it's painful to drag a heavy, chunky rear tire uphill. I had a Hans Dampf 2.35 as a rear tire once. Never again. But a Hans Dampf or another similar chunky tire in the front works great - the front tire is where you want all the traction. Perhaps it's nicer to use two chunky tires when it's muddy, but this type of setup works for me for most of the year.

    I don't know foresthill, but if it's sandy conditions, the more balooney and lower the psi the better. Tubeless 2.4's would probably be good on both wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shredchic View Post
    I see that lots of folks, including myself, use a lighter/faster rolling tire on the back and more chunky up front for typical norcal trail/AM riding. So, if I were you, I'd save the 2.2's for the rear, and just replace the front with the 2.4. The rear tire sliding out is no biggie, but it's painful to drag a heavy, chunky rear tire uphill. I had a Hans Dampf 2.35 as a rear tire once. Never again. But a Hans Dampf or another similar chunky tire in the front works great - the front tire is where you want all the traction. Perhaps it's nicer to use two chunky tires when it's muddy, but this type of setup works for me for most of the year.

    I don't know foresthill, but if it's sandy conditions, the more balooney and lower the psi the better. Tubeless 2.4's would probably be good on both wheels.
    Foresthill/Auburn are mostly rocky hardpack, smooth hardpack, or loose over hardpack. Haven't ridden much other places so I can't really compare. Not sandy though.

    I have a friend who races and said the x-king is more of a front tire. I take everything he says with a grain of sand because his needs are very different from mine. You think it'll be fine for a rear and get a chunkier front? Mountain King II, Ardent, High Roller?

    I have 3 of the x-kings that are almost new so hopefully I can use them as rears because the front leaves me wanting more and I don't want to scrap these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
    Foresthill/Auburn are mostly rocky hardpack, smooth hardpack, or loose over hardpack. Haven't ridden much other places so I can't really compare. Not sandy though.

    I have a friend who races and said the x-king is more of a front tire. I take everything he says with a grain of sand because his needs are very different from mine. You think it'll be fine for a rear and get a chunkier front? Mountain King II, Ardent, High Roller?

    I have 3 of the x-kings that are almost new so hopefully I can use them as rears because the front leaves me wanting more and I don't want to scrap these.
    OK, I was trying to think of conditions where the narrower XC rear and chunk up front advice wouldn't be ideal, but looks like for your conditions this would work great. I still think if you are wanting more up front than the x-king 2.2, it should be perfect for the back. Save your money, and when those wear out, then take your friend's advice for a faster rear tire. If he's racing XC he'd be wanting faster-rolling tires all around. But it's fun to have a big and chunky tire up front for non-competitive riding.

    As for which brand for the front, maybe someone else can comment. I think it is entirely a matter of personal preference and/or current sale pricing Go with 2.4 or 2.35, (for DH-specific riding, 2.5) look closely at the knobs. Do they look chunky with a gradual progression from center to outer knobs? (i.e. no dead spot?) If so, it will hook up well and instill confidence.
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    Thanks.

    If the x-king will work decently out back I'll just buy a new front and replace the rears as needed and won't have to buy a new one of those for a long time.

    I have

    3x conti x-king
    1x bontrager xr1
    1x specialized fast trak
    1x geax saguaro

    Seems like all better served as rear tires...

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    Trek 8000 w/ZR9000 frame
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    FM056 with Conti X-Kings 2.4's or Maxxis Ikons 2.25

    Typically ride Auburn, and Annadel
    I do a lot of XC racing and don't change my bike setup between rides and races.
    Considering getting Mountain King II's 2.4's for my front and keeping X-king 2.4 on the rears. I love running ~20 psi and floating over everything.

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    I notice on some Spesh tires the recommended psi range starts at 35, even on tubeless! I too like to run them around 20-25, especially the front tire, so that's a no-go for me.
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    SC Tallboy - Maxxis Ardent 2.2 in the front and Maxxis Crossmark 2.2 in the rear. Both used to run tubeless but after a few flats they are running with tubes now. (I feel guilty when all the goo spills out into the forest after a burp/flat so might not got back to tubeless)

    I'm a clydesdale and run front and rear at 28-30psi usually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHH View Post
    SC Tallboy - Maxxis Ardent 2.2 in the front and Maxxis Crossmark 2.2 in the rear. Both used to run tubeless but after a few flats they are running with tubes now. (I feel guilty when all the goo spills out into the forest after a burp/flat so might not got back to tubeless)

    I'm a clydesdale and run front and rear at 28-30psi usually.
    What kind of fluid are you using?

    I'm using Stan's and have ridden over a dozen blackberry bush branches in a row and never gotten a flat. I see dark spots on the tire where sealant has leaked and filled a hole but that's it.

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    Typically ride my mountain bike with rubber tyres ;-)

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    2012 Specialized Stump Jumper Comp 29 HT.
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    I'm around 190 mostly ride Lake Natomas /Granite Bay and other local trails around Roseville area.
    Really like how the Captain hooks up in the front.
    The Renegade in the rear rolls good and works well for climbing.
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    I'm still trying to find a tire that rolls well but can handle abuse. Switching to a Maxxis high roller exo in the rear KILLED the roll. Bogging. And still looking.

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    2014 Nomad C - 2.3 Maxxis High Rollers Front and Rear.
    2012 Intense Tracer 2 - 2.3 Maxxis High Rollers Front and Rear.
    2012 Specialized Demo - 2.5 Minion in front 2.5 High Roller in back

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Trail Bum View Post
    2014 Nomad C - 2.3 Maxxis High Rollers Front and Rear.
    2012 Intense Tracer 2 - 2.3 Maxxis High Rollers Front and Rear.
    2012 Specialized Demo - 2.5 Minion in front 2.5 High Roller in back

    High Rollers are sick!
    Hook up great, hold up great, Bogggggg. Are you using the EXO casing?

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    Seems like OP rides a 29er. I am on a 26 so the mileage may be different. I am currently running a WTB mutano 2.4 up front with a Conti trail king 2.2 rear. The rear will be replaced when my WTB Wolverine 2.2 race comes in the mail. So mutano 2.4 up front wolverine 2.2 in the rear.

    I am not racing at this point so the weight savings and minimal rolling resistance improvements weigh less that a fun tire that can be run tubeless. Weights on these are not that bad and I have run a few Wolverine tubeless for many many miles on more than one bike and they perform great.

    When replacing my once front, then moved to rear tubeless, then tubed due to air loss Wolverine I toyed over pretty much every other tire mentioned in the thread. In the end I chose to get another wolverine.

    For me this tire combo gives great traction up front, a great climbing rear tire that also has a lower rolling resistance and a larger casing that allows for lower psi and a more plush ride.

    I chose the race over their tubeless versions based on weight. Sure the sidewalls may weep a bit but performance is what I am after. They wear fairly well for our area and I have enjoyed days at D-Ville just as well as the local race series.

    For now WTB has been my best bet. After gathering new tire buying info my thoughts are Conti's have let me down in the past, Maxxis has mixed reviews and Schwalbe's don't have staying power but perform really well.

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    Tallboy C, nobby nic snakeskin front, saguaro rear. It was little sketchy when it was dry and dusty, but now when we got some moisture and not much dust over the rocks its fine. Running tubes because easton is out of valves.

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    Bontrager XR4 Team issue 2.35 F&R on a Trek Stache (29). Great so far and have been a lot more durable then I was expecting. Pretty good not too well known intermediate tire (kinda like an ardent)

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo233 View Post
    Bontrager XR4 Team issue 2.35 F&R on a Trek Stache (29). Great so far and have been a lot more durable then I was expecting. Pretty good not too well known intermediate tire (kinda like an ardent)
    Yeah the Bontragers are surprisingly good! (I just put on an xr3, friend loves his xr4's).
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    Racer X 26" - Specialized Captain 2.3 Tubeless Front / 2.1 Capital UST rear. I like the rolling resistance / grip trade-off of these tires. Won't be changing anytime soon.

    Tallboy LTc - High Rollers UST 2.2 front & rear. Very grippy, but heavy and not fast rolling. Will save for Downieville shuttling. Probably more tire than I would ever need though.

    2.2 Ardent UST front and 2.2 Ardent Race UST ordered and should be delivered by early next week. Ardent Race coming from Australia as I couldn't find any supply in the U.S. These will be replacing the High Rollers.

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    I got a Purgatory 29x2.3 for up front... hoping that helps.

    Going to leave the X-King in the rear for now.

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    I've been loving the 2.35 Butcher/2.2 Purgatory combo on my Mojo (26").

    But since Specialized sucks Schweddy Balls (corporately speaking), I'm open to suggestions!
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    dirt jumpin 53 psi front 60 psi rear sb8

    trail bike (tb2) 29 34 psi front nobby nic 37 psi racing ralph rear

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtvert View Post
    I've been loving the 2.35 Butcher/2.2 Purgatory combo on my Mojo (26").

    But since Specialized sucks Schweddy Balls, I'm open to suggestions!
    What's wrong with them? They seem heavy compared to competitors but that's it.

    The Conti is a sidewall protection model and the Specialized isn't and it's still 50g lighter.

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    I've been using Nevegal's front and rear for quite some time. I have a 5" travel bike and ride Auburn all the time. In my opinion one of the best tires I've ridden in terms of hooking up. But really slow rollers. I tried doing something with a smaller block but it just broke loose too much. I'm a big guy though 250 w/o gear. I've been really thinking about trying something new though. It's just tough to spend $120 just to see if I like a tire.
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    Maxxis Ardent front and rear of my Kona TanukiDL because that is what they came with and I don't know any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbg33k View Post
    I've been using Nevegal's front and rear for quite some time. I have a 5" travel bike and ride Auburn all the time. In my opinion one of the best tires I've ridden in terms of hooking up. But really slow rollers. I tried doing something with a smaller block but it just broke loose too much. I'm a big guy though 250 w/o gear. I've been really thinking about trying something new though. It's just tough to spend $120 just to see if I like a tire.
    I'm just going to replace as needed. Not trying to spend hundreds of dollars experimenting

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    Yeah, I still feel like it really sucks when I replace a set of tires and don't like the new ones at all. When I bought the slant six set I could say they rolled a hell of a lot faster, however didn't hook up at all when I was bombing. I felt like I was going to injure myself with them so I ended up just buying another set of Nevegals.
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    I ride the shall not be named "S" brand Rockhopper Expert 29er (got it used) with a rigid Salsa fork. Running Geax Saguaro 2.2 F/R right now (tubeless). I am switching to a Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.35 front and a Maxxis High Roller II Tire 29x2.30 rear. Looking for a little more squish and just something a little different. The Saguros have been really durable. They were a pain in the a$$ to mount up but have been trouble free since.

    I ride Rockville, Pena Adobe/Lagoon Valley and Annadel in my area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    I ride the shall not be named "S" brand Rockhopper Expert 29er (got it used) with a rigid Salsa fork. Running Geax Saguro 2.2 F/R right now (tubeless). I am switching to a Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.35 front and a Maxxis High Roller II Tire 29x2.30 rear. Looking for a little more squish and just something a little different. The Saguros have been really durable. They were a pain in the a$$ to mount up but have been trouble free since.

    I ride Rockville, Pena Adobe/Lagoon Valley and Annadel in my area.
    That's a really aggressive combo!

    I've completely signed off from using Schwalbe tires because of how expensive and fast wearing they are, but I'd be interested in hearing how the High Roller is.

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    I was a little apprehensive about plunking down the cash as I have heard about the fast wearing nature of the Schwalbes too but I figured that I'd give 'em a shot and then decide for myself if the wear was a big enough issue to not use them. I have heard great things about their traction and tracking.

    I will try and remember to post up after breaking them in a couple of months.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
    That's a really aggressive combo!

    I've completely signed off from using Schwalbe tires because of how expensive and fast wearing they are, but I'd be interested in hearing how the High Roller is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
    I've completely signed off from using Schwalbe tires because of how expensive and fast wearing they are, but I'd be interested in hearing how the High Roller is.
    That really depends on the compound. The softer compounds wear quickly, the pacestar is not too bad. The saguaro on the other hand, seems like it will last forever, and it costs less.

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    I purchased the Pacestar compound on the Hans Dampf. I figured the trailstar, while reportedly tacky, would wear too fast for my comfort.

    My Saguaros have lasted forever. Solid deal on a great tire. I was just looking to try something new and different. If I "had" to keep rolling them, I wouldn't be upset.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrozCountry View Post
    That really depends on the compound. The softer compounds wear quickly, the pacestar is not too bad. The saguaro on the other hand, seems like it will last forever, and it costs less.

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    Re: What kind of bike/tires are you guys using?

    Quote Originally Posted by OnThaCouch View Post
    I purchased the Pacestar compound on the Hans Dampf. I figured the trailstar, while reportedly tacky, would wear too fast for my comfort.

    I'm using the Hans Dampf Trailstar as a front tire. As is one of my regular riding partners. Based on the wear we are seeing to date, I fully expect this tire to last about 1600 - 1800 miles.

    Current mileage on my tire is about 800. Mileage on my buddies is around 1200.

    I certainly couldn't justify running this as a rear tire for the cost... But I think it could possibly be justified for the front.

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    Ibis Mojo with Conti Trail King 2.2 in the back and Kenda Excavator in the front. The Trail King is my fave rear tire right now and I'm not planning on swapping this on my trail bike. Still looking for a better front though. Love the Conti Der Kaiser on my dh bike so I'm kind of a Conti whore right now.

    I will never ever buy Schwalbe again...3 pairs of Fat Alberts (they sent me 2 more after I showed them the first) and all of them had ripped knobs after a few rides. Lame and the ride wasn't anything great.

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    What kind of bike/tires are you guys using?

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    Huffy SuPrChunk 900 with HanzDampf argon charged rear shock with 34.565" rear travel.
    Dude. I read on page 417 of the latest comment thread on pinkbike that the first production run shox on the SuPrChunk 900 really isn't compatible with argon, unless you cross pre-filter it with redbull. But if you scored the dynamite promodel SuPrChunk we've all been searching for, then it's all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huck Pitueee View Post
    Hook up great, hold up great, Bogggggg. Are you using the EXO casing?
    Using the LUST Casing on the Nomad and tracer and a 3C, Triple compound on the DH bike

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    I've done a lot of experimenting. I weigh about 210 fully laden and put a premium on traction on technical terrain. I thought the Ardents were good, but a nasty crash at Downieville due to a washout on the front tire made me want more.

    So for the full suspension bike (Santa Cruz Tallboy LTc) I have been running Hans Dampf 2.35 front and rear since September. I very rarely slip or skid, even when slowing down on a steep descent. Climbing is not so great; I may switch out the rear to a Nobby Nic or Ground Control 2.3. The wear is very fast; the rear tire is fraying after only about 350 miles.

    On the hardtail (Stumpjumer 29er) I am running Mountain King 2.2 front and X-King 2.2 rear. Previously tried Nobby Nic 2.35 (nice traction but sloow tire, overkill for fire roads and buff trails) and Fast Trak 2.1 front and rear (not quite enough traction for me). I am reasonably satisfied with the current Continental setup. They are not showing much wear and roll uphill very nicely, while hooking up when I need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htek View Post
    I'm using the Hans Dampf Trailstar as a front tire. As is one of my regular riding partners. Based on the wear we are seeing to date, I fully expect this tire to last about 1600 - 1800 miles.
    I would love if they made 29" tires in trailstar, NN trailstar 29 has my name all over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by James.Hamilton View Post
    The rear will be replaced when my WTB Wolverine 2.2 race comes in the mail. So mutano 2.4 up front wolverine 2.2 in the rear.

    Weights on these are not that bad and I have run a few Wolverine tubeless for many many miles on more than one bike and they perform great.

    When replacing my once front, then moved to rear tubeless. In the end I chose to get another wolverine.

    For me this tire combo gives great traction up front, a great climbing rear tire that also has a lower rolling resistance and a larger casing that allows for lower psi and a more plush ride.

    For now WTB has been my best bet.
    Same tires but reversed placement for me. I had run Mutano's front and back on hardtail several years ago but found somewhat unpredictable up front once they wore some, followed by a nasty front end washout just never felt confident after that. I may have let it go too far as a front tire. My bad.... Having one on the back of my full suspension B6r with a 650 Wolv up front has proven a good setup given the extra cush the 2.4 provides. I wish they made them in 650/27.5 to run on my SS HT.

    Seeing alot of the Enduro guys running them now. WTB, are you listening??
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    Kenda Nevegal front, Hutchinson Spider rear, both tubeless 2.10 x 26 on an Ellsworth Epiphany.
    My first experience with tubeless, so far a bit finicky. The experience reminds me a bit of the "sew ups" i had on a Schwinn Paramount in the 60s. The rear burped on me once and the front had a micro leak that took a couple of days to seal. I'm still pumping them before I ride just like my old 120 psi sew ups.
    These tires are like velcro (just perfect) in the current conditions in the Sierra Azul, bring on the mud please!!!
    The Nevegal's a bit noisy on the street, but the ride is fine on dry streets, so far.

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    Intense Spider Comp with 2.4 Ardent front, and 2.25 out back. I've been happy with this combo for our pine needle duff in Boggs, although I'd like to try the Nobby Nic/Hans Dampf combo some day.
    Santa Cruz Highball C with 2.25 Ardent up front, Crossmark rear. This has been a fairly predictable combo, fast rolling with enough bite up front to keep me upright.
    Salsa Mukluk Fatbike with 45north Husker Du 4.0 27tpi F/R. Lots of grip in all conditions, crappy sidewalls are cracked and look like they are rotting. Going for the surly Lou/Nate combo next.

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    Love Ikons or most the hardpack, light and fast with good traction. Due find they wear fairly quick.
    Currently running a Trail King 2.4 up front as it was a freebee from a friend and although a little heavy for my taste the grip on downhill runs and turns is fantastic.

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    For trail riding I have a Reign X. My standard summer tires are Minion DHFs. This year I mostly used Michelin Wild Grip'r 2 Advanced 2.35s. Nice tire, not as much outright grip but even more predictable drifting. When it starts getting muddy I switch to a Dirty Dan/Muddy Mary combo.

    For DH I ride a Yeti 303 RDH. Summer tires are Minion DHFs, when it gets muddy I switch to Swampthings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    Intense Spider Comp with 2.4 Ardent front
    Santa Cruz Highball C with 2.25 Ardent up front
    Surprising as a lot (well maybe not "a lot a lot") of peeps seem to not like them up front. They look like a good hook up tread to me!
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Surprising as a lot (well maybe not "a lot a lot") of peeps seem to not like them up front. They look like a good hook up tread to me!
    Interesting.. I think it's a great front tire. Could just be the difference in terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Surprising as a lot (well maybe not "a lot a lot") of peeps seem to not like them up front. They look like a good hook up tread to me!
    I think they're popular because they have similar ride qualities to a DHF (predictable breakaway, good side channel), but pedal much better (although with less grip). They have a large channel before the side knobs engage, which rewards being aggressive in leaning the bike and throwing it into turns. That doesn't suit everyone's riding style, and you notice it more in the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huck Pitueee View Post
    I'm still trying to find a tire that rolls well but can handle abuse. Switching to a Maxxis high roller exo in the rear KILLED the roll. Bogging. And still looking.
    I love the Geax Gato 2.3 TNT front and rear up in Sierra, in summer. 680 g for 26er. I have been using front 2.5 Neuron TNT lately (1100g), but will go back to Gato when we get rain.

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    Edit, all mtn version with thick sidewalls

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    First ride today on Clementine/Stagecoach/Culvert/Confluence with the Purgatory front tire I put on to replace the X-King and LOVE it.

    Confluence was pretty technical! Had to walk a few spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoolie View Post
    I love the Geax Gato 2.3 TNT front and rear up in Sierra, in summer. 680 g for 26er.
    Mine was 810g for 26" TNT. Bad luck?

    The claimed weight of Gato 29" TNT 620g is hard to believe, unless someone actually put it on a scale.

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    810 is way off from advertising, maybe the worst I have heard about. I will assume your scale is correct, as I don't have a need for one. I guess switching from Gato to Neuron in front is not as much of a weight penalty as I thought, maybe I stick with the Neuron TNT 2.5, it is new favorite (same tread pattern as Maxxis Minion DHF). I was at an Auburn bike shop talking to locals ( I live in Oakland ), and they were saying the Schwalbe offerings get pretty torn up around that area. I had no problems at all with GATO anywhere around Sierra Nevada. Trying out some Big Betty 2.4 soft rubber tires this winter (still waiting for wet conditions before installing), but I am taking them right off when things dry out. I don't want to tear them up with aggressive summer riding. We will see.
    On a side note, the GEAX Mezcal TNT is a really fun tire in summer. Micro knobs, but same side lugs as GATO. Very fast tire, and fun on stuff like Connector. I think it's the same kind of deal as Kenda Small block 8, or Maxxis Larson. Fun tires for summer, but it's just too expensive for me to run different tires all the time. Now I just run summer or winter. I have to admit those micro knobs are super fun though.

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    I'm a clyde so I tend to like bigger tires. My riding style has changed this last year, as my son discovered downhilling, so we spent about 15 days as Northstar. As a result, I have moved from easing tires over to their side, to being more aggressive and laying the bike over harder. Part of the change was because in the powdery west sierra dirt, you have to get the edges planted to get traction. All of my bikes are the ancient 26" size, so my choices may be biased based on that size. All that said:

    Hardtail- Specialized Ground Control 2.3- I haven't liked these as much as I thought I would. They are light, roll well, and have a decent casing volume. Mostly they are fine, but in loose over hardback (ala China Camp), they will let go when partially leaned over and then catch. Previously I was running the WTB Wolverine's in 2.2. The Wolverines have as much traction and roll just as well, but weigh nearly 200 grams a tire more.

    Turner Spot- Hans Dampf 2.35- These are the first Schwalbe tires I haven't been happy with. Within 2 rides I started tearing knobs off. More importantly, in the West Sierra dust, they do not hook up well (Downieville and Northstar). You lean them in and they just never bite like other tires (even with the pressure down at 28 psi). They work great everywhere else. I am replacing these with the WTB Vigilante.

    Norco Shore- Maxxis Minion 2.5 DHF- There is a reason so many people use these downhilling. At first I didn't like them. One I learned to trust them, I found you can throw them in a corner and they hook up wonderfully. I am going to go tubeless next year (I run tubeless on all the other bikes), so will be trying the Schwalbe Magic Mary.

    Other Bikes- My son has had great luck with the Michelin Wild Gripper 2. We first ran the advanced versions on his Santa Cruz Nickle. They hooked up wonderfully and lasted 10 days at Northstar until he finally tore the sidewall on one on a rock. I replaced them with a Specialized Butcher on the front and Ground Control on the rear and he has been asking me to put another set of the Wild Grippers back on. I have a set on his hardtail (in the non-advanced), which gets ridden for everything from the BMX jump park, to trails, to pavement. They hook up well and are showing virtually no wear after 2 months (unlike the Schwalbe Rocket Rons which were a great tire but wore out in 3 months; no complaining about them as this was not what they were meant for).
    Riding slowly since 1977.

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    Cary, I like the Neuron 2.5 TNT better than DHF. Check out Geax website about technology. Same tread pattern. I will have to try a DHF next summer to qualify this opinion. Last month I rode Hans Damf 2.35 up in Seattle in slimy roots and torrential rain and was impressed in wet conditions. But the side knobs are too squirmy in dry (1 st day up there was dry ), as you point out. Also, the owner of Bronson I was riding had snipped off all of the transition knobs, ala Minion/Neuron. But I am trying schwalbe Big Betty 2.4 this winter instead of my go to GATO. Will add to MTBR reviews in spring. I hope side knobs don't let me down.

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    Tires: 26"x3.8" Surly Nate up front, 26"x3.8" On-One Floater out in back

    Other bike: Santa Cruz Tallboy carbon
    Tires: 29"x2.35" Panaracer Rampage up front, 29"x2.2" Kenda Nevegal out in back

    OTher other bike: 2009 Surly 1x1 11th Anniversary “Rat Ride” Limited Edition
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    Rode skeggs today with those tires on TallboyC. Conditions were as good as dirt gets, 1% drier than perfect. Smooth, moist and sticky.

    Nobby nic 2.25 front: Good traction when you lean with the bike, super when you lean the bike more and keep the body upright. The weird thing is that it does not feel like there is more traction, it just feels like the bike is planted and rails when you lean it deep. Maybe it's the frame geometry, who knows.

    Saguaro 2.2 rear: Good cornering. I didn't really notice it was there, I was focused on the front in corners. Easily match the NN as a rear in turns. Climbing and breaking, different story. Very easy to lock the rear on downhills where nevegal, nobby nic or mountain king would still hook and have plenty of margin beyond that. Span on climbs a few times as well. I don't think I would spin a NN rear. In both climbing and descending loss of traction is docile, unlike other tires which loose traction abruptly. I think this tire is at its limit in skeggs, which is actually easy cross country for the most part. If you like to bomb I would not use that tire. I think big part of its good nature is the 29" wheel size, not the tire. I would guess it will not be as nice on a 26. Probably spin more and lock even quicker.

    Rolling resistance of this combo is excellent. Feels like riding one higher gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    Interesting.. I think it's a great front tire. Could just be the difference in terrain.
    I'm sure it is Captain. Reflecting back I had moved the ~half worn out 2.4 from the back of SS to up front when I tried the new 2.25 in back that they had come out with. Didn't care for that one at all, heavier and rolled worse than a Nevegal it seemed. ORMV of course.

    I do think a fresh set of 2.4's would be a great for up your way this time of year, how are the conditions in Boggs anyway?
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    I'm running Maxxis Highroller 2.35's on my Heckler. They are awesome but I'm wondering if there is something better (there almost always is). I ride in Redding where we have a large variety of terrain.

    I'm still bummed they got rid of the Mobster, these were my favorite tires. They were similar to the highrollers but they did everything a little better, I miss them so...

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    Weirwolf 2.25 up front. Exiwolf 2.1 rear.

    Rigid Titanium SS. Carbon fork. Tubes.

    Non technical venues.

    Bam!

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    Specialized Enduro with Specialized Butcher Control 2.3's up front (@27 PSI) and specialized Eskar Control 2.3 rear (@30 PSI). Does everything well. No plans on changing anything. Mostly riding STCP - Bernal Ranch entrance up to Coyote peak, then down Rocky Ridge and Stiles.

    For good float over Tahoe silt (Northstar), I used a Purgatory 2.4 front. Awesome for loose stuff, but not too good for hardpack.

    Always Tubless with stans...

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    Running Purgatory front/Ground control rear now. Good combo but I might want a little more traction in the rear if I went to anything even slightly more technical or aggressive terrain than I ride now.

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    I have a question for you guys. I am 1.5 yrs in to MTB. I ride a fs 29'er ( rumblefish) so def not XC...I ride around fhdl and Auburn. ( Some Granite bay ) Mostly all Auburn though. I want to replace the Bontragers which have been ok but the front gets a lot of lateral movement. I am 170 dry. I want to know what is the best to run tubeless for where I ride. My lbs is telling me the weirwolf for this area. Yet I don't see them mentioned a whole lot...what would you run in Foresthill/Auburn? I prefer lots of traction over speed. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpo View Post
    I have a question for you guys. I am 1.5 yrs in to MTB. I ride a fs 29'er ( rumblefish) so def not XC...I ride around fhdl and Auburn. ( Some Granite bay ) Mostly all Auburn though. I want to replace the Bontragers which have been ok but the front gets a lot of lateral movement. I am 170 dry. I want to know what is the best to run tubeless for where I ride. My lbs is telling me the weirwolf for this area. Yet I don't see them mentioned a whole lot...what would you run in Foresthill/Auburn? I prefer lots of traction over speed. Thanks!
    If you really want traction over speed, Maxxis Minion or even Kenda Nevegal. A more balanced option for faster rolling with good grip would be Hans Dampf

    Weirwolf is a great tire but wear out way too fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpo View Post
    I have a question for you guys. I am 1.5 yrs in to MTB. I ride a fs 29'er ( rumblefish) so def not XC...I ride around fhdl and Auburn. ( Some Granite bay ) Mostly all Auburn though. I want to replace the Bontragers which have been ok but the front gets a lot of lateral movement. I am 170 dry. I want to know what is the best to run tubeless for where I ride. My lbs is telling me the weirwolf for this area. Yet I don't see them mentioned a whole lot...what would you run in Foresthill/Auburn? I prefer lots of traction over speed. Thanks!
    Which Bontragers are you using?

    I use a Purgatory front/Ground Control rear set up tubeless and I like them a lot. I may go Butcher front/Purgatory rear just because the rear skids just a hair sooner than I want on heavy braking but I'm 240. At 170 it would probably be perfect for you.

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    '09 GT i-Drive 5 (5" rear 120mm front) I had been using some 2011 IRC Mythos XC's the last season and a half but didn't like how narrow it was. It was labeled a 2.1" but actual width was only 1.9". I just ordered some Geax Mezcal's in 2.3" and have heard the tire runs true to size to slightly bigger than labeled. I mainly ride at Granite Bay after work which is loose sand over hardpack and the Geax tire I got is supposed to work well for this.

    If anyone is interested in the IRC's I'm taking off let me know. The rear has minor wear and the front still has most of the casting nubs still on the tread blocks, 26".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
    Which Bontragers are you using?

    I use a Purgatory front/Ground Control rear set up tubeless and I like them a lot. I may go Butcher front/Purgatory rear just because the rear skids just a hair sooner than I want on heavy braking but I'm 240. At 170 it would probably be perfect for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpo View Post
    Bontrager 29-4 Expert, 29x2.3"
    Try the purgatory. Money back guaranteed too.

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    Bought some new tires and I'm considering the following combos, what combo do you think would work best for Auburn?

    All tubeless on a 5.5" 29er, listed as F / R, all 29x2.3 unless otherwise listed

    Purgatory / Ground Control (current)
    Purgatory / Ardent 2.25
    Butcher / Purgatory
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    HRII 3C / HRII dual compound
    HRII 3C / Ardent 2.25

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    My new combo that has 2 rides on it so far is a Hans Dampf Evo casing in front and the new Rock Razor Evo casing in back. So far so good with it and that back tire is super fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzorich View Post
    My new combo that has 2 rides on it so far is a Hans Dampf Evo casing in front and the new Rock Razor Evo casing in back. So far so good with it and that back tire is super fast
    How is the Rock Razor traction in climbing and turning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrozCountry View Post
    How is the Rock Razor traction in climbing and turning?
    Turning is where it is at with this tire which is what i wanted. Climbing isn't bad either. the only thing that has really shown to be its weaker point is on gravel. This this is fast though. i could instantly feel how much snappier the bike got coming off my purgatory. and to think about it the purgatory hard a way worse time climbing. get one i think it will be a great summer tire. now time will tell how long it will last. i only have about 100 miles on mine but its holding up well

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    Using Butcher/Ardent 2.25 now and it's good.

    Purgatory/Ground Control didn't have enough braking traction
    Butcher/Purgatory bogged too much

    (all F/R)

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    Re: What kind of bike/tires are you guys using?

    I just put on a 2.35 kinda kinetics front tire on, and a 2.1 kenda rear tire. I forget the rears name but it looked like the tread could work like a paddle cause some of the places we go gets pretty loose.

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    I see guys on really light duty tires like small block 8's. I thought even x-kings were scary light duty.

    Loving the butcher front right now

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    What kind of bike/tires are you guys using?

    26x2.4 Weirwolf up front and a 26x2.3 Wolverine in back, both tubeless of course works awesome on these Marin Trails

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    On a Reign X0...

    Kenda BBG 2.35 Back (most underrated tire ever)

    Minion EXO front

    Rolls well, corners like mad.
    Last edited by Esses; 04-28-2014 at 09:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esses View Post
    On a Reign X0...

    Kenda BBG 2.35 Back (most underrated tire ever)

    Minion EXO front

    Rolls well, corners like mad.
    That BBG kind of looks like the idea behind the Rock Razor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
    That BBG kind of looks like the idea behind the Rock Razor.
    Yeah, totally. I tend to shred Schwalbe tires, though. The Kenda seems to hold up way better for me although I did tear the sidewalls on one.

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    Moved to a Hans Dampf up front and it kicks ass.

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    Running a Geax Gato 2.3 (non-TNT) in front, and a Saguaro (TNT) 2.2 rear for the Summer on Flows. Great mix of front traction and rear speed, with bombproof casings (the Gato on the rear rolls slow, but gobs of traction and good in the winter). Non-TNT aired up easily on Stans, TNT is a mofo to set-up. I'm biased to Geax's, since they have been really consistent with quality, are relatively cheap, and wear really well. The Goma will be next to try out.

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    Hans Dampf indeed rocks. What took me so long to figure it out. Its an odd tire, it just grips, no matter what. It feels a little like you are riding on a road and not a trail, its like there is no effect for the knobs (which you can always feel with other knobby tires).
    I think I will learn a lot of bad techniques on it

    Pretty much seals the deal on "which front" questions, if you can afford it and not a racer, its a safe bet.

    The Saguaro on the back is doing good so far, good combo of grip and speed, leaning more to the speed side. Not for downhill bombers. I can spin it out on hard climbs, especially going over a rock. Saying "I will replace it when it wears out" is really crazy talk, it looks like it will never wear out But NN will be there soon anyways.

    Having tried a few versions of schwalbe tires, what makes them rock on the front is the trailstar compound. NN is a good example. Too bad they are making some sizes only in pace star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrozCountry View Post
    Hans Dampf indeed rocks. What took me so long to figure it out. Its an odd tire, it just grips, no matter what. It feels a little like you are riding on a road and not a trail, its like there is no effect for the knobs (which you can always feel with other knobby tires).
    I think I will learn a lot of bad techniques on it

    Pretty much seals the deal on "which front" questions, if you can afford it and not a racer, its a safe bet.

    The Saguaro on the back is doing good so far, good combo of grip and speed, leaning more to the speed side. Not for downhill bombers. I can spin it out on hard climbs, especially going over a rock. Saying "I will replace it when it wears out" is really crazy talk, it looks like it will never wear out But NN will be there soon anyways.

    Having tried a few versions of schwalbe tires, what makes them rock on the front is the trailstar compound. NN is a good example. Too bad they are making some sizes only in pace star.
    Yes, I think part of it is that it's non-directional and has no gaps. It's just evenly spaced knobs all around. It doesn't brake as well as the Butcher it replaced and it's a front tire so I can't comment on climbing traction, but it's definitely a fantastic front tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
    Moved to a Hans Dampf up front and it kicks ass.
    You still running the Hans up Front? 2.35" Trailstar I assume??

    I've been toying with the idea as well.....currently have a HR2 3C 2.4 front and Ardent 2.4" rear. I'm hesitant to get rid of the HR2 as the front because it is SO reliable. It corners no matter what and never washes out. It has awesome grip on off-camber rocks, roots, etc. especially better than anything else I've tried when wet. Being in the PNW you almost need to run something year round that is prepared for wet. The Ardent definitely rolls better than the HR2 in the rear, however braking traction it lacks. Add wet soil, wood, or rocks and the traction decreases even more, though it too is better than others I have run in the rear.

    I've run the following in many different mixes: Nevegals, minnions, HR's, Geax, Datura, TK's, HR2's, Ardents. SO far for PNW (west of the Cascades) the best I have run with least rolling resistance is HR2-F, Ardent-R. I do run a Hans Trailstar on my 29er and so far (without much 'wet' testing) it is very good. Seems to roll pretty well (as much that can be noticed on a front) even at 25psi and has noteable off-camber wood and rock traction, so much that it was definitely noticeable compared to the former Ardent 2.25" it replaced. If I was 100% confident in the Hans Dampf's wet capabilities, I would not hesitate to have the Trailstar 2.35" on the front and most likely the rear although in pacestar compound. I guess worse case scenario, the HR2 goes back on the front for wet season.

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    I'm currently running hans up front and ardent 2.25 rear. It's great but like you said braking with the ardent isn't perfect.

    I'm gonna replace the hans with an HRII 3C cuz after only 85 as a front tire I'm tearing knobs on the hans. Gonna save it for when the ground is softer.

    these are all 29" models FYI

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    Just threw on the HRII, it looks like a cyclocross tire compared to the Hans Dampf, so small by comparison

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