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    Are we going to lose Dirt Alpine?

    I haven't ridden there in a couple months due to all the rain, but Dirt Alpine has been my twice-a-week ride-from-home-to-dirt go-to for the past 3.5 years. Two years ago, heavy rains led to erosion of the "unauthorized" (but very fun) singletrack, and the single track got fenced off and closed down. Now the heavy rains of this December have led to a big washout about 2/3 of the way from the bottom of Dirt Alpine. There are new orange signs (posted into the ground) at the lower and upper trailheads that read "Road Closed - No public access", with folding signs/barricades next to the gates. And there is a big metal barricade at the washout, with ribbons. Are they going to shut this down permanently? They don't seem to be much for maintaining or repairing that trail, and who knows if there is money to do so. I am going to be so bummed if this closes. It would leave me with only Arastradero and Windy Hill within riding distance of my home.

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    MROSD manages the section x Coal Creek OSP.
    Openspace.org - Your Preserves - Coal Creek

    SM Co supposedly manages the graveled section above the 1st bypass through Coal Creek OSP..

    Whose signs were posted(signs should be marked by agency that placed them), should be one of the previous agencies mentioned.
    Best recourse is to contact these entities directly+inquire as to what the plan(if any) is.

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    I loved coming down that single track section. Definitely miss that loop. Hope they open it back up...including single track.
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    That's a bummer. I only rode it once this past summer, with the reroute. It was fun, and would be nice to do it again.

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    I hope they reopen Alpine. It was a good way to connect to White Oak.

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    I just spoke to a guy in the San Mateo County Roads department, and he said the plan is to eventually close down and barricade just the newly washed-out portion on Alpine Road, and have trail users bypass it via the the Cloud's Rest and Meadow trails. He said they will try to have this finished, weather permitting, in the next few weeks. Though there are signs posted at the top and bottom gates of Dirt Alpine right now that read "Road Closed - No public access", it sounds like they will be removed once the bypass routing is finished. Fairly good news!

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    Could be worse. Thanks for the update!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopaminer_09 View Post
    …have trail users bypass it via the the Cloud's Rest and Meadow trails…
    Hmmmm, if they are talking the full existing trails, that would not be a trivial bypass. And those stay pretty saturated in the Winter.

    Thanks much for all the information in this thread!
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    I wish the bypass is restored. It was fun, and it was not eroding - compared with the road itself.

    Singletrack all the way up would be very fine with me. Not a huge fan of climbing Cloud's rest while it is still wet.
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    Yeah, that is what it sounded like. Definitely not ideal, because you are right - that steep fire road (Cloud's Rest) stays wet for a long time in the winter. It would be great if they could actually create a new singletrack bypass for the new washout.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    Hmmmm, if they are talking the full existing trails, that would not be a trivial bypass. And those stay pretty saturated in the Winter.

    Thanks much for all the information in this thread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopaminer_09 View Post
    Yeah, that is what it sounded like. Definitely not ideal, because you are right - that steep fire road (Cloud's Rest) stays wet for a long time in the winter. It would be great if they could actually create a new singletrack bypass for the new washout.
    Would a small bridge there work? $$$ obviously. Hard to see that happen.

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    It would be much easier if they'd just allow us to build a ramp and a landing ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by erisch View Post
    It would be much easier if they'd just allow us to build a ramp and a landing ...
    Uphill? Damn... man.

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    Yeah, seems like now we have a solution to make trails directional ...

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    Pictures from my ride today





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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopaminer_09 View Post




    You need to use an actual image URL or upload it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    You need to use an actual image URL or upload it.
    How do you upload directly from your computer hard drive to Mtbr?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopaminer_09 View Post
    How do you upload directly from your computer hard drive to Mtbr?
    There is a button "upload image" below the advanced editing box. You may choose an option of also adding it to your "gallery", or just linking in the post.

    I have uploaded your pictures from direct URLs in your photobucket, but you can do it from the local disk.

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    I went out there today too, and took the same photos as Dopaminer so no need for me to post mine.

    Looks more like a sink-hole than a wash-out.

    You can see that folks are simply going to the left of the hole:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dopaminer_09 View Post

    This is located midway between Meadow Trail & Alpine and Cloud's Rest fireroad & Alpine.

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    How blocked off is the single track?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopaminer_09 View Post
    I just spoke to a guy in the San Mateo County Roads department, and he said the plan is to eventually close down and barricade just the newly washed-out portion on Alpine Road, and have trail users bypass it via the the Cloud's Rest and Meadow trails. He said they will try to have this finished, weather permitting, in the next few weeks. Though there are signs posted at the top and bottom gates of Dirt Alpine right now that read "Road Closed - No public access", it sounds like they will be removed once the bypass routing is finished. Fairly good news!
    Quote Originally Posted by Dopaminer_09 View Post
    Yeah, that is what it sounded like. Definitely not ideal, because you are right - that steep fire road (Cloud's Rest) stays wet for a long time in the winter. It would be great if they could actually create a new singletrack bypass for the new washout.
    I agree that this would not be ideal. Meadow to Cloud's Rest would be a steep and long detour to go around that sinkhole/slipout.

    The SM Co. roads vs. MROSD maintenance seems to result in no long term plan to keep this important bicycle route open. Re-routing people on an 1.3 mile detour with 300-400 feet of (steep) elevation gain does not seem like a good alternate route to me.

    At least Crazy Pete's is still open...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopaminer_09 View Post
    I just spoke to a guy in the San Mateo County Roads department, and he said the plan is to eventually close down and barricade just the newly washed-out portion on Alpine Road, and have trail users bypass it via the the Cloud's Rest and Meadow trails. He said they will try to have this finished, weather permitting, in the next few weeks.
    I rode down Dirt Alpine today and found this barricade across Alpine at the intersection with Meadow Trail:



    So I had to go up Meadow Trail and as expected, it was a muddy mess :-( That was enough for me, I didn't check the other end of Dirt Alpine.

    ///Charlie

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    I have contacted San Mateo County Roads asking if this is a temporary or a permanent closure (I sure hope it's temporary), and if they will work with MROSD to develop a single-track by-pass (similar to the one lower down on Alpine) that doesn't require such an extensive detour.

    I'm hoping for a positive response...

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    I heard back from the roads manager at SMCO and it sounds like this section will be closed at least until this summer. It also sounds like the county would repair the road section if emergency funding becomes available (that's a pretty big IF nowadays). Without funding, the county will likely perform minimal repairs to address drainage and erosion issues at the road failure location. It is unclear if the more limited repair will also make that section passable for bikers and hikers.

    For now it's closed, but I am hopeful that even the more limited repair will allow that section to be re-opened to bicycle/hiker traffic.

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    The closure notices at the upper end (Page Mill Road) have disappeared. I hope this is good news for those of you who ride old Alpine. (I pass the point daily on my road bike...)

    Best wishes.

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    How much money would it take? Maybe we should get a donation fund going...


    Quote Originally Posted by r3r3r View Post
    I heard back from the roads manager at SMCO and it sounds like this section will be closed at least until this summer. It also sounds like the county would repair the road section if emergency funding becomes available (that's a pretty big IF nowadays). Without funding, the county will likely perform minimal repairs to address drainage and erosion issues at the road failure location. It is unclear if the more limited repair will also make that section passable for bikers and hikers.

    For now it's closed, but I am hopeful that even the more limited repair will allow that section to be re-opened to bicycle/hiker traffic.

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    This bubbled up on the ROMP list today:


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    Great video! I just rode it today, with the detour, and was taking note again of how long it takes for that steep (and ugly) fire road to dry out.

    How do we let the San Mateo County Roads department know that we highly value dirt Alpine - call them, email them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    This bubbled up on the ROMP list today:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dopaminer_09 View Post
    How much money would it take? Maybe we should get a donation fund going...
    I rode past the fences and the sinkhole when I was late getting down. It is easy to ride by that hole, but that is one big frigging hole. Not sure if it is easy to repair - the ridable edge of the road will likely erode after a few more rains.

    A single track to replace the fireroad (maybe going along the edge of the forested area to meet Meadow trail midway?) would be great. But it will probably take 10 to 15 years to plan and approve.

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    Can the single track they closed prior to the road wash out get you up still? If you're going to hop the barricade, might as well go all in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    Can the single track they closed prior to the road wash out get you up still? If you're going to hop the barricade, might as well go all in.
    Different area.

    We should restore that community maintained trail near the bottom. It was nice.

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    I was up on Dirt Alpine yesterday and bummed to discover the "road" closure at Clouds Rest intersection, mostly because I road bike dirt alpine (been doing so for ~25yrs; it's one of my favorite climbs to get up to skyline (beautiful, no cars, challenging, etc)). So anyway, I managed to climb parts of Clouds Rest, and walked the parts where I couldn't (probably could've ridden almost all with (much) lower gearing). The mud is drying out, but there's still some. Having the non-muddy surface being damp seemed to give road tires better traction than when it's totally dry and dusty -- less rear wheel slippage when out of the saddle.

    I /really/ hope we can keep dirt alpine open in at least the shape its been in the past 15 yrs. The present lower "single-track" bypass isn't too bad, there's only about four sections I have to walk. but having another steepish mtn-bike-gearing-required-to-ride-the-entire-thing bypass would be unfortunate, although not the end of the world.

    Dirt Alpine has really deteriorated since the mid-ninety's washout that necessitated using that present "lower" bypass. Before that it was much less overgrown throughout and seemed to be more-or-less maintained. It wasn't as much as a "trail" as it is now, it was more of a "dirt road". The rumor, back when I was first introduced to the route, was that it was maintained more-or-less as a fire road and/or escape route for the residents up at the top. Dunno about veracity of that rumor. A noticeable improvement though in the past decade or so has been the spreading of the coarse gravel -- i don't recall as much back in the "way old days" and it wasn't nearly as passable after rains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobileuser View Post
    I was up on Dirt Alpine yesterday and bummed to discover the "road" closure at Clouds Rest intersection, mostly because I road bike dirt alpine (been doing so for ~25yrs; it's one of my favorite climbs to get up to skyline (beautiful, no cars, challenging, etc)).
    Was it you walking up the bypass? (I was coming down on a blue bike).

    I am doing this climb as a training ride for almost 20 years now, bummer it is deteriorating. Double bummer those idiot bureaucrats sabotaged a couple of community singletrack bypasses as well. They have no time or resources to maintain it, but enough to create barricades and destroy trails.

    But.. Too Crazy Pete up instead, and got to Borel hill through Ridge trail. Longer ride and I like it more, I think.

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    It is a bummer about this trail. I used to enjoy the lower single-track that has been covered up. I do still like Alpine as an after work ride and over to White Oak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpfy View Post
    How blocked off is the single track?
    It's really well blocked off. About 15 feet of branches and logs. Definitely not something you can get through easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Was it you walking up the bypass?
    Nope, I didn't see anyone coming down as I was going up, until when I emerged on Skyline (as a result of the new detour) near the viewpoint just north of the intersection with Page.

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    I am not sure if my memory is completely accurate, but I seem to remember that 5-6 years ago, that little trail was fenced off, and that at some point access was restored. It was quite a fun descent, and a great challenge to climb in one particularly steep part. I loved that trail, the way it was 3 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Different area.

    We should restore that community maintained trail near the bottom. It was nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobileuser View Post
    Nope, I didn't see anyone coming down as I was going up, until when I emerged on Skyline (as a result of the new detour) near the viewpoint just north of the intersection with Page.
    It looks like it is quite popular with road biking folks. I have met two guys (I guessed you could have been the polite gentleman on the bypass trail. ) on road/cross bikes going up.

    I hope roadies lobby for Alpine road as well, (given how dangerous it is to take the Page Mill uphill)

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    There is now a petition on Change.org(not mine) to get Alpine reopened. I'm not sure how effective it would be, but I'd urge everyone to sign it. (I'd post the link, but don't have enough posts to do so).

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    Quote Originally Posted by syount View Post
    There is now a petition on Change.org(not mine) to get Alpine reopened. I'm not sure how effective it would be, but I'd urge everyone to sign it. (I'd post the link, but don't have enough posts to do so).
    https://www.change.org/petitions/ple...-trail-segment

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    Thanks for posting the link. Much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fourgasm View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    A single track to replace the fireroad (maybe going along the edge of the forested area to meet Meadow trail midway?) would be great. But it will probably take 10 to 15 years to plan and approve.
    A citizen built singletrack could be built on a weekend afternoon with one person and some hand tools. Too bad the bureaucratic tools override common sense and hand tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cornfish View Post
    A citizen built singletrack could be built on a weekend afternoon with one person and some hand tools. Too bad the bureaucratic tools override common sense and hand tools.
    But what about brown legged spotted butterfly snakes? Ten bikes a day could disturb them.

    ..if that citizen clears up the old one, it would be much appreciated.

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    A friend forwarded this update to me:

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    Progress on Dirt Alpine Repairs?

    Last week we received the following words from Joe LoCoco, the County's man in charge of Alpine Road's trail segment, above and to the south of Portola Valley:

    "The Mid Peninsula Open Space District has been authorized to excavate around the failed pipe in an effort to reestablish drainage underneath the road. We anticipate this work to occur in the coming weeks and that we will have a better sense, during this effort, of whether reestablishing the drainage is in fact viable.

    Any additional strategies for the site will be largely be dependent on the findings and success of this effort, as having a workable drainage system is a critical component of any plan, since without a functioning drainage system, the remainder of the road will wash out."

    Many thanks to MidPen for this work and thanks also to anyone that wrote a letter encouraging a resolution to this trail closure.

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    Alpine Road: Repaired!

    On Friday a deft Midpeninsula Regional Opens Space District crew completed work on repairs to the damaged section of “Dirt Alpine”. The road has not as yet reopened, but it seems as if this should happen shortly.

    Big thanks to San Mateo County and MidPen for banging out this project in few days of work: This put a stop to a severe erosion problem, stabilized the roadbed and prevented a need to “wait out the winter” to affect repairs next summer. Bravo, well done!

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    Wow. That was a much quicker resolution than I expected.

    Kudos!
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    I thanked the MROSD for the action taken. So appreciative. I intend to have a look at the trail tomorrow and take some photos. If I manage to, I will post here.

    On yesterday's ride I noticed that the log-over is gone, cut-up, near the creek ford in Upper Stevens Creek Canyon (Santa Clara County land, but the MROSD shares corridor management).

    Also saw much heavy work in advance of winter in Fremont Older going on yesterday on my ride over to the Stevens Creek Canyon.

    Funds being spent!

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    Today's update from the Concerned Outdoorspeople for the Preservation of Alpine Road – Portola Valley :

    Alpine: Good news and bad

    First the good: The barricades are down and the route is open.

    The Bad: San Mateo County has now described the fix as “temporary” and they say they “anticipate the need to again close the trail when large and/or regularly occurring storms occur since the road will not be considered stable under typical mid-winter conditions.”

    I’m bummed. I thought we were done. Apologies for the premature optimism.

    MidPen reports the remaining “good part” of the drainage pipe that had partially collapsed causing the problem was far deeper than anticipated. This greatly increased the cost and complexity of a robust conventional repair approach. Instead large boulders were used to back fill the excavation pit. It's hoped that flow through this “gigantic french drain” will be adequate this winter. We won’t know until the storms hit.

    The County remains hopeful that a substantial amount of funding will be released by the state department of emergency services for a full repair next summer.

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    Hi, and now it's Fall 2014 and we know the above-described further repairs did not get done, unless they've been done since the last time I was up there on Sun 17-Aug-2014.

    Anyone have any more info?

    Also, when I went up that day, there was a sign in the road down near the lower windy hill trailhead (off of that long driveway) that stated that the "road" would be closed from 19-Aug to ?-Oct-2014 (I forget the date). Some folks I know were up there a few weeks ago and said dirt alpine was open to the top but that sign was still there.

    any further news?

    thanks.

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    It's the paved part of the road that's closed. The dirt part of it remains open. I was there last Thursday, and the paved road was closed from Willowbrook to Joaquin. The closure specifically mentioned cyclists as well as motorists. Since it was a weekday and I didn't want to go halfway up and be turned back, I turned around and went to the bottom of the dirt part via Los Trancos Road and Joaquin, a nasty little warmup. The dirt part of Alpine was the same as usual.

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    Yup, just the lower paved part. I've done it twice this month, coming down from the top at Page Mill, where this sign is. 8AM to 5PM weekdays thru Oct 31. The Joaquin go-around is insanely steep. Are we going to lose Dirt Alpine?-img_1755.jpg

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    The paved detour is insanely steep in either direction.

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    > MidPen reports the remaining “good part” of the drainage pipe that had
    > partially collapsed causing the problem was far deeper than anticipated.
    > This greatly increased the cost and complexity of a robust conventional
    > repair approach. Instead large boulders were used to back fill the excavation
    > pit. It's hoped that flow through this “gigantic french drain” will be adequate
    > this winter. We won’t know until the storms hit.

    Looks like it mostly held thru the Nov-Dec 2014 storms -- the trail is fine but it looks like there was some serious water action down in the pit.

    I note the big barriers were totally removed but don't understand why they placed wimpy standard-issue folding barricade units where the big barriers were.

    anyway, I hope the county indeed secures funds for a better fix.

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    > I note the big barriers were totally removed but don't understand why they
    > placed wimpy standard-issue folding barricade units where the big barriers were.

    the folding barricade units are apparently there to mark the vertical pipes that were being used to anchor the previous big barricades.

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    Passing along this update...

    "…Public works has recently surveyed the site and has a design for the repairs to the drainage system. An environmental assessment of the work area is the last major piece to be put in place as funding for construction has been secured. Public works is relatively confident that the work will be complete by next summer…"

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    Well it's February 2017 and still no more work has been done on Dirt Alpine. Happily the two existing washouts haven't got worse this winter but now there is a new washout:





    That is 100 yards down from the Meadow Trail intersection.

    As you can see, it is no problem to ride past it. In fact Dirt Alpine was all open and ride-able today except a dismount was required to get under this tree:



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    Alpine is open now get out and ride.
    Just watch out for the rangers their ticket happy right now. parking tickets,poaching tickets, raffle tickets.

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    And its gone! It is a huge wash out. It took out the rest of where it started a few years ago. Its a huge canyon now.

    I was running down it today and was staring into the abyss. I found a way across but I don't recommend it. The water was narrow, maybe 3-4 feet across. I was getting sucked into he mud so I decided to jump into the water to prevent loosing a shoe in the mud. I figured it was going to be about shin deep. BAD idea. That water was 5 feet deep.

    I got up laughed and kept on running, but it took a while to warm up. The other trails are still passable to get around it, but I don't think they will be fixing this one. After the rainy season Im sure where I snuck through a trail will get blazed.

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    Bummer.

    You know what did not have any washouts? The single track they destroyed in the name of erosion control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heythorp View Post
    And its gone! It is a huge wash out....
    It was captured on film:




    The accompany text...

    While making my way up “Dirt Alpine” yesterday afternoon I passed the “Alpine Sink Hole” as some hikers and cyclists refer to it. It's about 2/3’s of the way up the unpaved section. The hole has been slowly expanding over the past few years as the drainage system under the road bed slowly crumbled. Long story shortened, this drain got clogged with the heavy rains and the water level rose above the “dam” i.e. the road bed. From there water flow quickly eroded a "V" shaped gorge across my favorite trail.
    San Mateo County had been planning to repair the drainage system this coming summer. Not sure how this will effect things, but they will have less soil excavation to do wink emoticon;-)

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    Where did this happen - before or after Meadow Trail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenBeat View Post
    Where did this happen - before or after Meadow Trail?
    Descending, the landmarks are...

    • Upper gate (Page Mill Rd.)
    • Meadow Trail intersection
    • Sinkhole/washout causing the closure
    • Cloud's Rest intersection
    • Crazy Pete's intersection
    • Single-track "by-pass" section
    • Lower gate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    Descending, the landmarks are...

    • Upper gate (Page Mill Rd.)
    • Meadow Trail intersection
    • Sinkhole/washout causing the closure
    • Cloud's Rest intersection
    • Crazy Pete's intersection
    • Single-track "by-pass" section
    • Lower gate
    Thanks for the info. My typical ride was going up from Alpine Road (parking at Windy Hill parking lot) all the way to Meadow Trail, then over into Russian Ridge. Sounds like I'll be taking Cloud's rest instead for a while.

    Unless...can you pedal really fast and jump the gap?

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    June 10 trail work day on Dirt Alpine:

    https://www.facebook.com/svmtb/posts/628906723967286

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    I'm in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agtuck View Post
    June 10 trail work day on Dirt Alpine:

    https://www.facebook.com/svmtb/posts/628906723967286
    Cool. I'll see if I can make it. Hope it turns out like the old bypass trail, that one is fun.

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    Based on the stakes that were out last weekend it'll be a lot shorter than that - but should be rideable rather than the steep hike-a-bike that's there now.

    The section lower down between the bypass and Crazy Pete's needs work too (it's kind of a rutted out mess and not nearly as fun as before IMO), but at least it's rideable.

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    I am probably going to arrive by dropping in from the top off Page Mill Road.

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    Here's 80 feet of new trail.

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    Thank You to the trailworkers !!!


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    While volunteers did trail work on the morning June 10 many riders and a few hikers went by going up the social trail to get across the slide. It was difficult for some people.



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    The other side is steep as well. No work was done to this part of the trail. There exists a way to reduce the grade of this and make it less prone to erosion with a reroute. This section approaches 34% gradient. Most people can ride up this.

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    Looking across the gap in the road, you can see the gulch which must be crossed and get an idea of the amount of fill that went down the hill when the flood occurred. In the bottom of the gulch there is a buried 4' corrugated steel culvert structure which by account was clogged and unmaintained during the preceding drought. Due to meager rainfall, nothing bad happened, until the mega storm showered down. That culvert, further down from its surface exposure is buried under 20' of silt and gravel.

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    As the reroute began to take shape and become usable, the crew closed the old social rope climb ramp. The knob of dirt that the rope route was on supported a few mature trees and is filled with roots. Hopefully the trees can continue to flourish and also maintain stability of the hillside here.

    (An alternative reroute was considered to cross this slope, but it was not selected. That's good because these trees would have suffered more for it.)

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    The final results are nice and usable for now. I am not confident in the long term integrity of it though.

    It is going to receive some improvement in the near future, and it should be rebuilt in sections from the bottom up, using anchored crib cells. Also the grade can be slightly reduced at the bottom, which will help some riders.

    The section is 77' long, with an average grade of 22.5%, and an average width of 4.9'. It is 29" at it's narrowest point. This achievement is phenomenal to me.


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    Awesome! Thanks for the photos and report Jack!
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