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    Victor aka Stalk - rider down.

    On the huge Demo ride today, Victor suffered a serious injury, unfortunately.

    Victor, Dan'ger, Alex and I were on the first of three loops at Demo forest. Coming down the Corral Trail fire road, Victor slipped off a small jump. He put his right foot down to brace the fall but it seemed to get stuck and twisted. When he came down, his foot looked out of place and there was huge bump on his ankle. Once he got in a comfortable position, the the foot and ankle seemed to fall back in place. Initial prognosis is a severely dislocated ankle.

    Dan'ger immediately gave him a Percocet painkiller and a motrin 800. We tried to get Victor in a comfortable position but left right in the middle of the fire road

    We were one mile up on Corral trail from Hihn's Mill road. Danger, Alex and I called 911 and help and rescue were on the way. An hour a half later, we realized the rescue vehicles were stuck a quarter mile below us. The recent rains made the fire road pretty muddy. Victor started shivering and was looking pretty pale. We got him out about an hour later using a gurney with one all-terrain wheel in the middle.

    Good thing we had cell service there and as I was talking to 911. I could hear Victor yelling adamantly.... "NO HELICOPTER!!!!"

    Anyway, when they got Victor out to the parking lot, they gave him the choice of going in an Ambulance that goes to Santa Cruz or going to the hospital on his own. Apparently, Victor felt comfortable enough to have Alex drive him to El Camino Hospital.

    Here's the pics of Victor looking pretty comfortable. He felt better once the drugs kicked in, his leg was stablized and he got a little sun and some barbecue.

    Victor is extremely bummed about not biking for a while. Plus he loves skiing and the season is just about to start. He is very worried about the long recovery and healing process for this type of injury.

    Let's wish him well.

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    Well that answers the question of where the 9 o'clock group went.

    Victor, here's wishing you a speedy and total recovery.
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    Well, that's not good. That explains why you weren't at the picnic table. Sorry to hear Victor. I am sure that you will recover fast, you are a strong lad.
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    Damn, Demo claims another.

    Heal quick! (Good call on the chopper).

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    Victor,

    We all hope to see you out on the trails soon!

    As interesting side note to me is that Victor and Francis (our two big MTBR ride crashes as of late) are both skilled and strong riders. Neither are folks I would describe as reckless and haphazard daredevils on the trails-- I consider them both very responsible riders. Yet, they both ended up hurt fairly seriously.

    Thank goodness for the soft soil of Santa Cruz!

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    Heal up Victor, your Nomad will miss you for a few days-week(s)

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    Get well soon Vic. I hate to see fellow riders down.


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    Sorry to hear about that. Heal quick

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    What's the best All-Mountain gurney? (x-post from AM)

    Well, we got to see it but since Alex, Victor, Francis nor I had a camera, we've got no pictures to prove it. I swear, this thing was a stokes stretcher with a uni-Pugsley wheel attached to it. We had to warn Victor that he wasn't allowed to huck it on his way to the ambulance.

    Anyway, heal up Victor!

    Thanks again to the local CDF and Sheriff's department. IMO, they did a great job of attending to Vic and had a good sense of humor to boot.

    As for everybody else - DON'T GET HURT!!!

    So, OK, the ride wasn't epic but we did get in 11 miles and 1600' of climbing. Not bad for a little over 1 hour of riding.

    ...and...we found out what a "kid stand" was...

    Thanks also to Trail Head - great BBQ and a good time! now if only we could keep the little kids from eating banana slugs...
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    Ouch!

    Sorry to hear about your crash and burn.I hope things set well and you can get some rest. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

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    Great to hear itsallright

    Hey Victor....we were one of the first people to come down and see you on the ground. Really glad to hear everything will be ok.

    Francis- Great to see you on a dirty bike again.

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    Victor,
    sorry to hear this. get well soon.
    hope ride together soon.
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    Ouch Victor...

    sorry to hear about your injury. I hope you heal fast... I know how much you love riding. We will try to keep you entertained. As I was climbing Sulpher I saw a Sheriff SUV coming down and later found out that you were in it, sorry I did not wave.

    Francois, Dan'ger and Alex- You guys are very cool to have helped. I did not realize what you all went through when I saw you as they were loading Victor's bike. I did see the gurney thing Dan'ger was describing thoough it was upside down in the back of that fire truck. Again, you guys did a real good thing. It shows what kind of people we ride with.
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    Does it look like this? Taken from the Arizona boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan'ger
    Well, we got to see it but since Alex, Victor, Francis nor I had a camera, we've got no pictures to prove it. I swear, this thing was a stokes stretcher with a uni-Pugsley wheel attached to it. We had to warn Victor that he wasn't allowed to huck it on his way to the ambulance.

    Anyway, heal up Victor!

    Thanks again to the local CDF and Sheriff's department. IMO, they did a great job of attending to Vic and had a good sense of humor to boot.

    As for everybody else - DON'T GET HURT!!!

    So, OK, the ride wasn't epic but we did get in 11 miles and 1600' of climbing. Not bad for a little over 1 hour of riding.

    ...and...we found out what a "kid stand" was...

    Thanks also to Trail Head - great BBQ and a good time! now if only we could keep the little kids from eating banana slugs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinglePivot
    Does it look like this? Taken from the Arizona boards.



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    It looked EXACTLY like that!
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    Bummer.

    Sorry to hear about the wreck. Just take it easy and follow the rehab and you'll be up and skiing/biking soon.

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    Bummer

    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    Victor is extremely bummed about not biking for a while. Plus he loves skiing and the season is just about to start. He is very worried about the long recovery and healing process for this type of injury.

    Let's wish him well.
    I'm Always at a loss for words when I read about stuff like this. Heal quick.

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    Nice to see everything came out best case. I passed you on my Highline a few minutes before the female paramedic got there. I think she was first the first one up on foot.
    I had to figure you were either in shock or thankfully on meds as I read when you apologized for messing with my flow being sprawled out on the trail. hahha!

    Get well soon Stalk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDawg
    Nice to see everything came out best case. I passed you on my Highline a few minutes before the female paramedic got there. I think she was first the first one up on foot.
    I had to figure you were either in shock or thankfully on meds as I read when you apologized for messing with my flow being sprawled out on the trail. hahha!

    Get well soon Stalk.

    Dude, you did not even pause in your nice ride to check if we were ok or if help was on the way. That was cold-blooded.

    Every rider who passed stopped to help... except you. I'm bummed.

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    Easy there Francois. I could tell he was in obviously good hands and being taken care of -immobilized, covered and alert as I came to almost a complete stop. I checked for cell coverage but before I could make a call I saw another rider escorting the paramedic up to whom I mentioned how much further up the trail the downed rider was. I also stopped at the stuck rescue vehicles and checked with the backup paramedics still at the parking lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDawg
    Easy there Francois. I could tell he was in obviously good hands and being taken care of -immobilized, covered and alert as I came to almost a complete stop. I checked for cell coverage but before I could make a call I saw another rider escorting the paramedic up to whom I mentioned how much further up the trail the downed rider was. I also stopped at the stuck rescue vehicles and checked with the backup paramedics still at the parking lot.
    This is bumming me out even more. You figured all that out as you whizzed by us?? I know you and we're all wearing mtbr jerseys and you don't even say a word?

    Victor was laying down smack down in the middle of the fire road too. We couldn't move move him since it was too painful for him.

    This is advice for others, if you see someone badly hurt in the middle of the trail, stop for 10 seconds, show some support and some sympathy. It means a lot to the injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    This is bumming me out even more. You figured all that out as you whizzed by us?? I know you and we're all wearing mtbr jerseys and you don't even say a word?

    This is advice for others, if you see someone badly hurt in the middle of the trail, stop for 10 seconds, show some support and some sympathy. It means a lot to the injured.

    francois
    As I whizzed by you? WTF? Did you read my post? You weren't there and no I did not recognize the riders or whatever was written on their jerseys because I can't read shiat 10ft in front of me without my glasses and I've obviously not kept up on the MTBR jersey of the day.

    You got some sage advice there bud. I do recall stopping and checking on you a few months ago -remember? Or maybe you didn't recognize me because I wasn't wearing colors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    This is bumming me out even more. You figured all that out as you whizzed by us?? I know you and we're all wearing mtbr jerseys and you don't even say a word?

    This is advice for others, if you see someone badly hurt in the middle of the trail, stop for 10 seconds, show some support and some sympathy. It means a lot to the injured.

    francois
    Easy, Francis...I don't remember anyone "whizzing" by without at least a pause to listen to questions that others were asking if not asking themselves or at least slowing down.

    I thought that the minimal observer response was looks of concern if nothing else, but we did visibly have the situation under some sort of control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    This is bumming me out even more. You figured all that out as you whizzed by us?? I know you and we're all wearing mtbr jerseys and you don't even say a word?

    This is advice for others, if you see someone badly hurt in the middle of the trail, stop for 10 seconds, show some support and some sympathy. It means a lot to the injured.

    francois
    Victor,

    Heal up dude - I need someone to chase!

    Francis - don't be so quick to judge.

    I agree with your advise - but you also realize that the thoughts of a mountain biker meandering through the woods some times lag when confronted with unforseen obstacles and incidents.

    Just today while out in Joquin Miller I found my mouth several steps behind my mind, when passing an oncoming hiker. My usual greeting of "howdy" was lost to my body's contortions to make way for said hiker.

    I would have liked to have greeted the person in my normal fashion - but when the mouth is out of gear, sometimes it takes a moment to re-engage.

    Who knows what was on DDawgs mind when he passed Victor. Hopefully singletrack bliss - which as we all know effects our thoughts in a delightfully pleasing way - sometimes with deleterious effects on our other cognitive abilities.

    Let's just all be sure to be our brothers keeper. We all get hurt from time to time, and need each others help.

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