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    Been thinking about doing this and his thread got me started, went and picked up a vitamix and a bunch of greens and fruits etc and gotta say I thought it would taste bad or blah but not at all.
    So does anyone make a bigger batch and put it in the fridge for later?

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    adding to daytripper's question about mass quantity... how much juice do you all have per serving? (say you're doing the fast)

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    I use a Nalgene bottle and go 1:10 juice to water, plus some green powder and alkaline drops. On the fast, I drink about 6 of these a day. When I'm eating, it's about 3. I'll make enough for a day during one juicing session, but never more than that. It goes bad pretty fast, even in the fridge. Also, I read an article about how it oxidizes very quickly and loses its maximum potency within 30 minutes. I don't know how practical it is to juice 3 - 6x a day though...

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    I think we need more info on enema's - an important component of this diet!
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    Quote Originally Posted by markj2k4 View Post
    adding to daytripper's question about mass quantity... how much juice do you all have per serving? (say you're doing the fast)
    Not sure it matters as you'll only want to drink so much.
    Day 6 for me, I'm 5 lbs lighter and still haven't grown a vag, kissed a goat or bought a hybrid

    My "plan" differed from SquashYos in that I used a vitamix in lieu of a juicer cuz we have one and I didn't want to spend $200-$1,000 on a juicer I would only occasionally use. There's a lot more sludge to deal with using the vitamix, but many argue that's valuable fiber/vitamins.

    I did my 3 daily El Sereno training rides(1,500 ft/7mi) in a row, the first two were about average, the 3rd was really tough. I'm debating whether to go on a longer ride Today or go to the gym and cross train.

    I'm not experiencing the whole boundless energy deal, but I'm not suffering from lack of it either. Maybe if i stuck a hose up my butt, that would improve, but ill prolly pass on that phase of my development. I am more clear headed, but not spiritual awakenings to speak of, except of course when I see a bunny or deer and want to rip its head off an eat it raw, just sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackho View Post
    Not sure it matters as you'll only want to drink so much.
    Day 6 for me, I'm 5 lbs lighter and still haven't grown a vag, kissed a goat or bought a hybrid

    My "plan" differed from SquashYos in that I used a vitamix in lieu of a juicer cuz we have one and I didn't want to spend $200-$1,000 on a juicer I would only occasionally use. There's a lot more sludge to deal with using the vitamix, but many argue that's valuable fiber/vitamins.
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    NICE. I'll have to look out for you on El Sereno one of these days as I ride there about once a week...if you squint your eyes real tight, you can turn it into single track.

    So, I applaud your program (while standing) but our diets are more different than you state above. Because you are ingesting fiber with every meal, you are using energy needed to digest and breakdown nutrients and work out the fiber from the system. While this is close to mine, it's not technically a food "fast" but a great diet none the less (I think - I guess a "real" fast would just be water). With a fiber free fast (mostly pulp free), you are eating what accounts to a completely digested meal and your system has zero work to deal with thus a faster weight loss process, the clear headed/increased energy feeling, and more of a detox (your vital organs have nothing to do but remove toxins and heal up).

    I stole this quote, "When you consume only green smoothies, you are "feasting" rather than fasting, as you are still consuming whole foods and all the fiber they contain, thus your digestion never rests as it does in a true liquid fast. Still phenomenally beneficial, green smoothie feasts are a great way to transition into and out of a fast."

    I am in no way trying to downplay your program but I highly encourage you or others to try the fiber free fast as a detox/weight loss program someday. This program you are on is an amazing health booster/weight loser but I think we are talking two different animals. Also, I use my juicer everyday now that I feel the benefits of the mass packed nutrient drink I make every morning...and I plan to do two extended juice fasts a year. I went from speculating to buying a very high end juicer once I got into it. You can probably find a used juicer cheap on Craig's List.

    On a positive side note for you, there is no need for an enema with your diet plan because you already have the fiber doing the work required. To go further, there is no need for one on my plan too...but it does make you feel a heck of a lot better during the fast...and you remove those crayons you swallowed when you were a kid.

    Keep it up and sorry if I came off as pretentious here.
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    We are almost at the end of our 2. day of detoxing and so far I have mixed feelings.
    Some of the food is tasty and is going to be used in the future but we both feel pretty sluggish and feel a liitle bit weird in general and light headed.
    But that might be the bodies getting rid of stuff and I do not think I ever ate that much parsley in such a short period of time.

    @squashyo, that is very good info about the fiber.

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    I got a juicer from my brother last week, and he only gave me one instruction "Don't ever bring it back."
    After doing the first juice, I can see why. It's a huge timesuck for very little useable juice.
    If you're thinking about doing this for a few days, I say see if you can buy some juice at the grocery store, you'll save a ton of time and money. If you decide after a few days you want to do it for longer, then consider buying a juicer.

    On a side note, I feel bad throwing out the pulp, so I've been experimenting with it.
    Last night I made a loaf of wheat bread with walnuts, and threw in a cup of carrot/celery/kale pulp. That came out pretty good.
    I just got done with another experiment, where I turned the celery/carrot/kale pulp into veggie patties. I added some canned corn, black beans, diced red onion, spices, and some flour to bind it together. Fried it in a pan for about 10 mins, and it was friggin delicious. Some tweaking and tuning and I won't be buying veggie patties anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-bug View Post
    I got a juicer from my brother last week, and he only gave me one instruction "Don't ever bring it back."
    After doing the first juice, I can see why. It's a huge timesuck for very little useable juice.
    If you're thinking about doing this for a few days, I say see if you can buy some juice at the grocery store, you'll save a ton of time and money. If you decide after a few days you want to do it for longer, then consider buying a juicer.

    On a side note, I feel bad throwing out the pulp, so I've been experimenting with it.
    Last night I made a loaf of wheat bread with walnuts, and threw in a cup of carrot/celery/kale pulp. That came out pretty good.
    I just got done with another experiment, where I turned the celery/carrot/kale pulp into veggie patties. I added some canned corn, black beans, diced red onion, spices, and some flour to bind it together. Fried it in a pan for about 10 mins, and it was friggin delicious. Some tweaking and tuning and I won't be buying veggie patties anymore.
    Very cool ideas

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-bug View Post
    I got a juicer from my brother last week, and he only gave me one instruction "Don't ever bring it back."
    After doing the first juice, I can see why. It's a huge timesuck for very little useable juice.
    If you're thinking about doing this for a few days, I say see if you can buy some juice at the grocery store, you'll save a ton of time and money. If you decide after a few days you want to do it for longer, then consider buying a juicer.

    On a side note, I feel bad throwing out the pulp, so I've been experimenting with it.
    Last night I made a loaf of wheat bread with walnuts, and threw in a cup of carrot/celery/kale pulp. That came out pretty good.
    I just got done with another experiment, where I turned the celery/carrot/kale pulp into veggie patties. I added some canned corn, black beans, diced red onion, spices, and some flour to bind it together. Fried it in a pan for about 10 mins, and it was friggin delicious. Some tweaking and tuning and I won't be buying veggie patties anymore.
    I also dig your veggie patty idea alot!

    As for store bought veggie juice...shelf life kills the nutrients so entirely different ball game. I guess you could try the store bought to see if you like the taste. From a nutritional standpoint, fresh made compared to store bought will be dramatically different.

    As for me, 15-20 minutes to make a juice and clean up. A wee bit of a time suck but manageable in my book. Congrats on the new juicer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    I have one. Raw Chard. Loaded with nutrients but makes a lot of people sick when eaten raw. I got a scratchy throat every time I was using and my bro-in-law threw up when he tried juicing it. I'd stay away from chard. Also, bananas don't juice.
    One other you should have cautioned... broccoli... not the best to start off with yakkk. Did broccoli this morning because I was in a "hey, what other veggies are in the fridge" kind of mood. Boy the taste of broccoli tainted up the batch of juice pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-bug View Post
    I got a juicer from my brother last week, and he only gave me one instruction "Don't ever bring it back."
    We have a basic juicer for citrus (cut in half, place on 'juicer', it rotates) that we rarely use. We don't have a more advanced juicer. And I don't use this one for smoothies.

    We have a commercial Vitamix. Everything that goes in the smoothie enters the vitamix. It does it's thing for a bit and I have something green, fibrous, and vaguely drinkable (depending on ingredients).

    When dealing with carrots, kale, spinach, and the like, something like a Vitamix seems pretty useful.

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    Day Three and I feel good. 6 lbs lost so far.
    That includes 1-2 beers/ or glasses a wine and a healthy dinner...Sushi.

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    I started this today too-but with some mods. I'm doing the 5 day thing. I really need to change my eating habits. I don't think I can go full vegetarian, but I'm thinking about doing as much vegetables, fruit etc during the day and a sensible meal at night. Hoping this year I'll be able to get out and ride more too. 2012 wasn't a great year for bike rides for me, most of the people I was riding with have surpassed me.
    We made plans for a vegetable garden and hopefully a place to keep chickens at our house, so that will be nice to be able to produce some of our own food. Thanks again to everyone for all the info on here-

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    By the way that green drink on day one-oh my-gonna be work taking it down. My fiancé made it last night and let me taste it-I was drinking a beer at the time.

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    so I have a question, beside doing the juice fast, do you eat fruits and carrots throughout the day? specially if you do more that 5 to 7 days?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvega View Post
    so I have a question, beside doing the juice fast, do you eat fruits and carrots throughout the day? specially if you do more that 5 to 7 days?.

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    I am probably going to drive people crazy but Juice Fast and what you are talking about are two completely different animals. If you do the 'juice fast', which I am a proponent of, you eat NO fiber at all. You give your vitals a complete rest...if you do juice with fiber (any kind of chewing) you are simply dieting. Sounds hard but after 2-3 days of a true juice fast, you do not miss eating at all and you will have insane amounts of energy and you will lose 10lbs off the bat with 1lb a day...and you can ride, work out, etc. Best of all, you purge the system of years of crappy toxins.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    I am probably going to drive people crazy but Juice Fast and what you are talking about are two completely different animals. If you do the 'juice fast', which I am a proponent of, you eat NO fiber at all. You give your vitals a complete rest...if you do juice with fiber (any kind of chewing) you are simply dieting. Sounds hard but after 2-3 days of a true juice fast, you do not miss eating at all and you will have insane amounts of energy and you will lose 10lbs off the bat with 1lb a day...and you can ride, work out, etc. Best of all, you purge the system of years of crappy toxins.
    Yes sorry to semi-jack the thread. I am in no way doing this, not because I don't think its good, but I don't wanna

    Also y main concern is weight loss. The weight gain came from a relaxed diet ( still no fast food, soda, Twinkies) and no riding ( two baby girls) Getting back to my old diet and normal riding routine my weight drops quick. this is just a jump start.


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    Try dandelion, collard, and cabbage, beets and their tops. Your toilet will forgive you later.


    Been juicing for over 35 years. Never spent a day in the hospital. Get a cold maybe once every few years. I cycle 3-4 times a week and can keep up with guys half my age. I do drink beer and wine. What else would I drink have with my carne asada burrito?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky View Post
    Yes sorry to semi-jack the thread. I am in no way doing this, not because I don't think its good, but I don't wanna

    Also y main concern is weight loss. The weight gain came from a relaxed diet ( still no fast food, soda, Twinkies) and no riding ( two baby girls) Getting back to my old diet and normal riding routine my weight drops quick. this is just a jump start.


    Back to the juice thread.
    No, no, no, please! I do not mind at all talking about options and alternatives to a bike friendly/healthy eating program. What I am seeing though is a confusion between a 'fast' and a 'diet'...just hope people understand the difference. I hope everyone will try a 'juice fast' someday as it's a cool experience that is not nearly as hard as it seems...and, did I mention, you can still ride a bike?
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    No, no, no, please! I do not mind at all talking about options and alternatives to a bike friendly/healthy eating program. What I am seeing though is a confusion between a 'fast' and a 'diet'...just hope people understand the difference. I hope everyone will try a 'juice fast' someday as it's a cool experience that is not nearly as hard as it seems...and, did I mention, you can still ride a bike?
    One thing I think that scares people off is you think you're going to be starving... in reality you really won't be. I have been only a couple days and my lady constantly is asking if I am hungry. No, no I am not... do I want a giant cheeseburger? Yes, sounds delish, but I am not at all hungry.

    Any more tasty recipes to share??
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    Quote Originally Posted by markj2k4 View Post
    One thing I think that scares people off is you think you're going to be starving... in reality you really won't be. I have been only a couple days and my lady constantly is asking if I am hungry. No, no I am not... do I want a giant cheeseburger? Yes, sounds delish, but I am not at all hungry.

    Any more tasty recipes to share??
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    This is what I've been doing and it's pretty good. The ginger adds a nice little zing to it and it doesn't take much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    No, no, no, please! I do not mind at all talking about options and alternatives to a bike friendly/healthy eating program. What I am seeing though is a confusion between a 'fast' and a 'diet'...just hope people understand the difference. I hope everyone will try a 'juice fast' someday as it's a cool experience that is not nearly as hard as it seems...and, did I mention, you can still ride a bike?
    No confusion here, just a different choice, to me emptying your digestive system of fiber in at best giving you a temporary benefit, as it was designed to use fiber. So maybe you lose a few pounds that you immediately gain back. The amount of energy saved from digestion is maybe 5% of what you use, and if you body uses 5% more, then you'll burn more fat.

    The good news is, you've encouraged many to try something different with positive effects which is commendable. But personally, I can live with a couple pounds of fiber and $300 more bucks in my pocket--more $$$$ for hookers and blow-they are allowed right?? Just sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackho View Post
    No confusion here, just a different choice, to me emptying your digestive system of fiber in at best giving you a temporary benefit, as it was designed to use fiber. So maybe you lose a few pounds that you immediately gain back. The amount of energy saved from digestion is maybe 5% of what you use, and if you body uses 5% more, then you'll burn more fat.

    The good news is, you've encouraged many to try something different with positive effects which is commendable. But personally, I can live with a couple pounds of fiber and $300 more bucks in my pocket--more $$$$ for hookers and blow-they are allowed right?? Just sayin
    Again, a misconception and I mean no disrespect. The fast is meant to detox with a side benefit of weight loss. You will not have a more efficient detox if you are using your organs to process food internally...just not the same. Not sure how many different ways I can say this at this point.

    Additionally, I lost 20 lbs over a month ago with 10 days of fasting and I have kept it off fairly effortlessly (I gained back 5lbs but that's just food in my system). Additionally, I don't think your percentages are accurate...at all...did you make those up or are they sourced? I am not advocating people to not diet or that mine is better. Heck, diet all day long, that's great, wonderful in fact, but the fast and a diet are two totally different topics...I encourage you to do a little research and try it. Or not, I don't care...I just think it's a great detoxification program that's not the same as digesting fiber. Now, I have to do a line off this hookers back if you don't mind.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Oh wow-just had the first juice drink on the 10 day detox-wow that was something else-my head still hurts! That was something else. Says to drink over ice-unfortunately I didn't have any, I think the colder the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Oh wow-just had the first juice drink on the 10 day detox-wow that was something else-my head still hurts! That was something else. Says to drink over ice-unfortunately I didn't have any, I think the colder the better.
    Atta boy! I promise you get used to it and it grows on you. Secret to a great drink...lots of carrots, celery and beats...helps hide flavor of the greens (which I now dig). Throw in an apple or pear to sweeten it up a bit. Good luck buddy!
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    My fiancé is doing it too-the ginger was the culprit! Strong taste. I'm still sitting here going what did I just drink?!? Maybe I'll at least have good breath?

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    Yeah, ginger will give it a kick for sure but ginger is also supposed to be good for the tummy. Wait till you throw some garlic in there or cilantro. Let's go follow LP/AR up Kennedy soon.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Yeah, ginger will give it a kick for sure but ginger is also supposed to be good for the tummy. Wait till you throw some garlic in there or cilantro. Let's go follow LP/AR up Kennedy soon.
    That juice deal worked out well yesterday I must admit. I was following you most of the time if I remember correctly. And let me say it again as per our conversation yesterday ... We kinda have to attempt the sub 40 to the top thingy ... stud !
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    Man-an hour later and I think I'm finally over the drink. Craving a nice juicy burgar now! Had a light salad with little dressing instead. Not going to weigh myself, I'd rather see how my pants and shirts fit as I go along. Maybe my fox shorts won't unbutton themselves when I sneeze would be a nice start!

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    I started over the weekend and today was my first day back at work so I made a big batch to take with me to get me through the day, I must say I can already feel the difference. Crazy part of this is normally the ONLY way I eat greens etc is on a burger, I have been adding ice since these seem to taste better cold.

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    I have a question though, how does it feel when I go to dinner after this and have a big rack of ribs or a steak. Does our body fight back?

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    Cool man! Should start getting easy for you now.

    I can't speak to the rack of ribs but I followed a strict ease back in diet my book recommended which entailed mostly veggies with the introduction of other foods (cheese, grains, etc) throughout the week. When I did get to pizza, it wasn't as satisfying...I craved healthy food...I have pretty much stuck to healthy since...kind of changes your taste needs in a good way.

    Keep it up and keep us posted!
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    We finished our three day detox and the last day we started to feel "normal" and we can not really tell what it did to us but we also made a plan how to go back to normal so we do not feast to much on the not so good stuff.

    We started today with the simple kale/banana/OJ smoothie which we really like.
    But in the moment I have a hard time to fight the mental urge of a nice cup of coffee.

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    We finished our three day detox and the last day we started to feel "normal" and we can not really tell what it did to us but we also made a plan how. to go back to normal so we do not feast to much on the not so good stuff.

    We started today with the simple kale/banana/OJ smoothie which we really like.
    But in the moment I have a hard time to fight the mental urge of a nice cup of coffee.

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    I started on Sunday, mainly to lose the belly fat (I used to be around 100kg in the begging of summer, and due to some lifestyle changes, including being vegetarian, got down to 75kg and stabilized there. With working out, the fat was being transformed into lean mass, but the friggin beer belly didn't seem to go way. It is kinda weird being able to see the top 4 abdominal muscle, and the bottom 4 being hidden by fat). Guess since I was vegetarian, it shouldn't be that hard. I am writing a log, I will publish that when I am done. I am going for a 10-day juice fast followed by a 5-day reintroduction to food. Also, I wanted my blood pressure to lower. When I was 100kg, the pressure was near 11-17, and by 75kg, it got down to 8-15. This is still too damn high, was the doctor prescribed medicine, which I never took. I am 22 years old, I shouldn't be needing medicine right now... The fast should help the blood pressure get back to decent levels.

    Questions:
    1- I have slept a lot less in these nights (like 5 hours), and waking up super-energetic. But since I am waking up at 4 am, I usually get back to sleep until 7am (my normal waking up time). I feel like **** by 7am, no-energy at all. Would you just stay awake from 4am, drink the hot tea and do whatever to kill time?
    2- Spinach juice has a horrible taste, and so does zucchini. I have read that raw brocolli isn't good. I am not fond on beetroot, but maybe it was due to the spinach. This basically leaves kale has the only green that I can easily drink. If I had one apple, the taste of juices becomes manageable. I have read you shouldn't mix fruits with veggies, but apple is ok. So, something like 25% kale/spinach/broccoli/beetroot or whatever, 25% apple, 25% carrot and 25% fennel/celery/cucumber seems ok? As the green juice, ofc. In the fruit juice, I use pear, kiwi, apple, carrot, mandarine. Just pick 3 and mix. The fruit juices are very tasty. I wouldn't mind drinking fruit juices the whole day, but I know I need the veggie ones. Any hints to make the taste less horrible? (I tried ginger and lemon, none of those helped)
    3- Since I have been drinking so much, I am pissing almost clear, and pretty often. On the contrary, after waking up, the pee has a solid color. Is it due to being from a larger time-frame (through the night?)
    4- Could beans, chickpeas, lentills be added? I like their taste quite a lot, but dunno if they yield any juice.
    5- Here I can't find fresh pineapple, only canned ones in "their own juice". Is it ok to use these? I know the nutritional value is lower, but should present another option for the fruit-juices
    6- Cauliflower, ok to juice?
    7- soy sauce or balsamic vinegar can be added to juices, to make taste more manageable?
    8- Whey protein powder shakes (with water) can be introduced in this fasting? I have been drinking them for a while (since I have been working out and being vegetarian to be specific). Can one of these replace the hot tea before bed?
    9- Should some salt be added to this fasting? Like a small pinch in the green juices. I guess we could lack the salt if we seat and dont replenish
    10- Coconut water for after workouts is acceptable?

    Hope you can help.
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    Hey G_g...way to go man! I am thinking your are not in the US.

    So, I am no expert but have thoughts here.

    First, I posted a book in the first page. Highly recommend reading (or internet searches) to get most of these questions tackled.

    Sleeping...most likely induced by stress not diet. Try a little Yoga before going to bed. Go to bed a little later perhaps. Usually when I wake up and know I ain't tired enough to go back to sleep, I read a book.

    I personally got used to the spinach/zuch/broccoli...think of your drink as fuel rather than a meal. Fruit with veggies is fine according to my book but just make sure you are getting 2/3rds veggie over fruit everyday. HIGHLY recommend getting a filter bag of some kind to reduce the foamy pulp which can give drink a gamey feel and taste...you don't need this pulp at all for a "fast". Your percentages above look dead on. Another key to my success was adding 2 TBS UDO's Oil every 1 Quart drink (not sure if that is available where you are). Gave me essential good fats and gave my drinks some body that was really nice.

    I think the dark pee you are seeing through the night are the toxins...good stuff....clear during day means you are drinking the right amount of water...good on ya.

    4) no idea
    5) personally, I'd avoid store bought but couldn't hurt I suppose...as long as it's natural (real) and organic.
    6) no idea...but think about adding bell pepper, cabbage, garlic, romaine lettuce (very high protein ironically)
    7) I am gonna say NO! especially if you are looking to reduce blood pressure.
    8) no idea...innernet that one
    9) No...celery had a crap load of salt in it already.
    10) no idea

    Can't wait to hear progress...I had a beer gut going strong and this fast really helped...and I've kept it off.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    So last night dinner was a plate of steamed broccoli and snap peas. Wow. We made our way to Safeway and bought the rest of the necessary ingredients for the next 4 days. Actually feel ok-energy wise and not terribly hungry. Tried the drink for today' menu last night-tastes like drank-cant wait. Work by Goldilocks this morning-breakfast is always a treat for me there-eggs and Tocino, but today ill be drinking my breakfast.

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    Yep, I'm living in London, but I'm from Portugal. I never check other location forums, just stumbled on this from the MTBR feed on facebook.

    I have been eating vegetables since I was a kid, but the lack of physical activity and eating loads of crap led me to the 100kg (which is a lot for 1.79m). Nonetheless, I am used to Olive Oil for cooking. It is surprisingly one of the best fats for oil, and there is one thing i Like a lot ( at least in the solid state: boiled spinach + garlic + olive oil. I'll try drinking that, just to see).

    Just discovered a whole foods market store that I can go to (the local market is on saturday, and I started on a Sunday.... yeah, dumb me. At least days 8-10 will have fresh veggies from market, as well as the 1st of the rebound days. I try to buy stuff often, even if in smaller amount, I want to keep the freshness as long as I can).

    I realized I need juice at least every 90min. More than that, and I start to lose some energy. The whey protein with water keeps me full for 2h or a bit more.

    All that I read lead in the way that exercise shouldn't stop during the juice fast, and that water based protein shakes are fine (they have no fiber, mine are over 80% protein, with the remainder being close to 10% fat and 10% carbs)

    Stay away from canned fruit, based on the interwebz. Whole food market to the rescue, if it is available. Coconut water recommended for after sweating to replenish what was lost

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    Alright I've been checking this thread for about a week and the peer pressure of needing a new toy has suckered me in. I went to BB&B with my 20% coupon and got an Omega VRT350HD. I just finished my first juice from produce already in the refrigerator. Couple apples, couple carrots, romaine lettuce heart, leftover chopped kale. That green drink was pretty decent with some ice.

    There was a link for Reboot with Joe from an earlier post and I think I'll follow one of its plans.
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    Any difference between the regular lettuce and romaine lettuce? They seem fairly similarly, and the more I juice, the more I realise the dark green are the worst tasting to me. I can like with up to 1/4 of the juice coming from a dark green, but the remainder 50% that should be vegetables are usually occupied by carrot/celery/fennel/cucumber/beetroot (but not fond on beetroot to be honest).

    Got some suede, don't have it in Portugal. Will try it, seems close to turnip in smell, expecting taste to be somewhat similar.

    Also, sweet potato juice, anyone tried? Or pumpkin juice? Peppers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdrewguy View Post
    Alright I've been checking this thread for about a week and the peer pressure of needing a new toy has suckered me in. I went to BB&B with my 20% coupon and got an Omega VRT350HD. I just finished my first juice from produce already in the refrigerator. Couple apples, couple carrots, romaine lettuce heart, leftover chopped kale. That green drink was pretty decent with some ice.

    There was a link for Reboot with Joe from an earlier post and I think I'll follow one of its plans.
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    Awesome! I was checking out those reboots and they looked great. To reiterate earlier comments, after the first 3 days, juice fasting is really easy so don't be afraid to try a longer one. Good luck and congrats!

    On a side note, been on this juice/diet change for over a month now and I undeniably can feel it in my riding. I am without a doubt stronger than I have been in a while...just rode my big 40lb DH bike up some steep hills here in LG, CA for a lunch ride today and it was remarkably easy...I contemplated adding another loop I felt so good...stupid work.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Or pumpkin juice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    ...just rode my big 40lb DH bike up some steep hills here in LG, CA for a lunch ride today and it was remarkably easy...I contemplated adding another loop I felt so good...stupid work.
    Dude, we need to hook up for these mid-day rides during the week. Likes me some Dogmeat pain!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by G_g View Post
    Any difference between the regular lettuce and romaine lettuce? They seem fairly similarly, and the more I juice, the more I realise the dark green are the worst tasting to me. I can like with up to 1/4 of the juice coming from a dark green, but the remainder 50% that should be vegetables are usually occupied by carrot/celery/fennel/cucumber/beetroot (but not fond on beetroot to be honest).

    Got some suede, don't have it in Portugal. Will try it, seems close to turnip in smell, expecting taste to be somewhat similar.

    Also, sweet potato juice, anyone tried? Or pumpkin juice? Peppers?
    What is suede? I know you can wear it or listen to it but eat it?
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    During the 3 day detox my GF lost around 5 pounds and I do not weighted myself but I had to tighten the belt.

    Like others said before it is really amazing how filling it is, I never was never hungry.
    Only the last day I got some little cravings but it convinced me enough to upgrade our old Juiceman Jr. to a little more sophisticated one.

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    tonight's juice:
    1 whole bunch of kale
    a few cups of fresh spinach
    1 bunch of parsley
    ~ 6-8 carrots
    2 pink lady apples
    1 granny smith apple
    1 lime
    small block of fresh ginger
    2 small red beets

    this may be the best tasting juice I've made yet....enough for a large glass for 3 people

    FWIW I juice a few times a week as a way of getting lots of nutrients in, but we are not fasting by any means

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    My SO is planning on doing this and I was thinking about joining in..

    That being said, I'm going to Vegas in about a month and will probably drink and eat a ****load for 3 days. With weight loss being my primary goal, is this a bad idea? I feel I'll gain weight back rather quickly due to metabolic adjustments from just those few days.

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    Protein powders ?

    Hi,

    My wife does a very similar diet routine quarterly. Except the juices are bit more fruit centric and she adds protein powders that were recommended by a doc. These are similar in content to what Hammer products use in their protein mixes for endurance events. I am wondering is anyone else adding a touch of soy or wheat germ ? If so, any side effects ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHANguyen View Post
    My SO is planning on doing this and I was thinking about joining in..

    That being said, I'm going to Vegas in about a month and will probably drink and eat a ****load for 3 days. With weight loss being my primary goal, is this a bad idea? I feel I'll gain weight back rather quickly due to metabolic adjustments from just those few days.
    I had the same dilemma sort of. What I found was after my cleanse was that I had retrained my taste buds and cravings. Though I had ample opportunity to eat crap but I found myself wanting to seek out healthy food. I think once you go this extra mile, you come out of it looking to maintain the health and work you put in.

    As for drinking, I boozed up pretty good over the holidays...I drank about half what I usually drink to but got knockered pretty good all the same. The hang overs weren't super fun but when are they ever.

    If you don't want to put pressure on your self, wait till after your trip and start eating better in the meantime...just a thought.

    Cheers to you for giving this a go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianb00 View Post
    Hi,

    My wife does a very similar diet routine quarterly. Except the juices are bit more fruit centric and she adds protein powders that were recommended by a doc. These are similar in content to what Hammer products use in their protein mixes for endurance events. I am wondering is anyone else adding a touch of soy or wheat germ ? If so, any side effects ?

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    From what my research has showed, you are getting the daily required protein from the green leafy veggie via Amino Acids. Someone also mentioned earlier that your body can only handle so much protein everyday as it is...I'd say not necessary but I imagine it couldn't hurt.

    here's a quote I found: "when you are juice fasting... you are taking it lots of amino acids. the amino acids are your building blocks for protein so you don't need to take in more. you'll be getting plenty!"
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    From what my research has showed, you are getting the daily required protein from the green leafy veggie via Amino Acids. Someone also mentioned earlier that your body can only handle so much protein everyday as it is...I'd say not necessary but I imagine it couldn't hurt.

    here's a quote I found: "when you are juice fasting... you are taking it lots of amino acids. the amino acids are your building blocks for protein so you don't need to take in more. you'll be getting plenty!"
    Some amino acids can be synthesized in the body using other aminos but there are 8 "essential" aminos than cannot. It's possible to get a complete protein (all 8) entirely from plant sources by combining legumes and whole grains but you can't get it from leafy greens.
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    So day three in this five day reboot. Last night had Roasted Acorn Squash for the first time. At first I was like what the hell is that? Then poked at it and took a bite-was'nt bad! Actually quite good, it had a few other fixings with it, but 'discovering' a new vegetable was cool.
    Just like everyone is saying, don't really feel any side effects of eating 'less' food like loss of energy. Actually feel a little more alert, which is good since my 2 year old demands my full attention as soon as I get home from work.
    Do find, which I think is true of any healthy eating program, costs more and takes more time to prepare meals. Which is why I guess so many people just go with 'fast food'. Not sure if I've lost any weight since I elected to not judge this by amount of weight lost. Wish i could get some rides in to supplement the detox, but running around with my son will have to do for now. Hopefully next time I go for a ride and sneeze-my short's button won't unbutton! That'll be a good sign!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWheels View Post
    Can you recommend a substitute for bananas? I'm allergic to bananas so a lot of the juice / smoothie recipes tend to be a problem.
    Do you go into bananaphalactic shock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    Do find, which I think is true of any healthy eating program, costs more and takes more time to prepare meals.
    I dunno about you but a full days worth of veggies and fruits to juice most of which are organic is costing me a paltry ~$7.00 a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan'ger View Post
    Do you go into bananaphalactic shock?
    Always carry an Epi-penana...bahhhhh!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Dude, we need to hook up for these mid-day rides during the week. Likes me some Dogmeat pain!!!
    No doubt! My problem (which is a good one) is that I work from home and am never sure when my schedule opens up so I can never really commit to a specific time...I do however have the luxury of riding at least at some point during the day everyday which kicks ass! Anyhow, I'll PM you when I know I have a window. I am off to ride El Sereno now...seems cold out there.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    I'm getting the hang of using the juicer. Today was an orange colored juice with sweet potato, red bell pepper, carrot, apple and cara-cara orange. I still need to consume all the stuff already bought that is in the refrigerator before starting on any kind of fasting so the juice at the moment is just supplementing regular eating. Unless of course if someone has a juicing recipe for pacific cod...

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy f View Post
    Some amino acids can be synthesized in the body using other aminos but there are 8 "essential" aminos than cannot. It's possible to get a complete protein (all 8) entirely from plant sources by combining legumes and whole grains but you can't get it from leafy greens.
    Thanks Andy...I am definitely no expert by a long shot so appreciate the call out here. The articles I am seeing say you really do not need to add protein but nothing says it's harmful or a bad idea.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatdrewguy View Post
    I'm getting the hang of using the juicer. Today was an orange colored juice with sweet potato, red bell pepper, carrot, apple and cara-cara orange. I still need to consume all the stuff already bought that is in the refrigerator before starting on any kind of fasting so the juice at the moment is just supplementing regular eating. Unless of course if someone has a juicing recipe for pacific cod...
    Cod juice=gag reflex...even just thinking about it.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Thanks Andy...I am definitely no expert by a long shot so appreciate the call out here. The articles I am seeing say you really do not need to add protein but nothing says it's harmful or a bad idea.
    I'm guessing that they don't mention it because protein takes a lot more work to digest than the simple carbohydrates you're getting from juice and you said the idea behind what you're doing is to give those systems a rest while you cleanse. A free form amino supplement might fit in with that idea better than whole protein (chains of amino acids) since those can be directly absorbed into the bloodstream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markj2k4 View Post
    I dunno about you but a full days worth of veggies and fruits to juice most of which are organic is costing me a paltry ~$7.00 a day.
    I cant even come close to that, what do your drinks consist of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytripper63 View Post
    I cant even come close to that, what do your drinks consist of?
    1 day =
    2 granny smith apples ($1)
    4 carrots ($.50)
    1 bunch of dino kale ($1)
    1 celery bunch ($1)
    1 fresh whole pinapple ($3)
    1 cucumber ($1)

    I also have thrown zucchini in there, parsley, braeburn apples, grapefruit, navel oranges all still $7-8 for a full day of juice.

    Admittedly I have an amazing local market that has incredibly cheap produce. If your using whole paycheck or big box supermarket I really can't vouch for prices. If you have a discount retailer or ethnic market locally I bet you can find good prices on produce.



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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    No doubt! My problem (which is a good one) is that I work from home and am never sure when my schedule opens up so I can never really commit to a specific time...I do however have the luxury of riding at least at some point during the day everyday which kicks ass! Anyhow, I'll PM you when I know I have a window. I am off to ride El Sereno now...seems cold out there.
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    Most expensive shopping trip at Costco ever!!! I hadn’t realised the Vitamix thingies were $500.00!!! I was under the impression they were around $200.00. However, I am impressed that the unit is 100% American-made using 70% American-made materials, and that it carries a 7-year warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markj2k4 View Post
    1 day =
    2 granny smith apples ($1)
    4 carrots ($.50)
    1 bunch of dino kale ($1)
    1 celery bunch ($1)
    1 fresh whole pinapple ($3)
    1 cucumber ($1)

    I also have thrown zucchini in there, parsley, braeburn apples, grapefruit, navel oranges all still $7-8 for a full day of juice.

    Admittedly I have an amazing local market that has incredibly cheap produce. If your using whole paycheck or big box supermarket I really can't vouch for prices. If you have a discount retailer or ethnic market locally I bet you can find good prices on produce.
    I am going to have to look around and see what else is near me, apparently whole paycheck is putting a dent in my bike fund from the looks of your prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytripper63 View Post
    I am going to have to look around and see what else is near me, apparently whole paycheck is putting a dent in my bike fund from the looks of your prices.
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    See if there is a sprouts market near you. They have a decent selection of organic produce and prices aren't nearly as bad as whole paycheck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Most expensive shopping trip at Costco ever!!! I hadn’t realised the Vitamix thingies were $500.00!!! I was under the impression they were around $200.00. However, I am impressed that the unit is 100% American-made using 70% American-made materials, and that it carries a 7-year warranty.
    You will not be disappointed. I've had one for over 6 months now and use it practically every day for a smoothie (banana/frozen berries from Costco/kale/oj usually). It grinds everything up, though when you make a smoothie with a thicker consistency like I prefer them you may need to use the masher to help it along.

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    For those of you who are fasting, how much juice do you drink in a day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrzyTuning View Post
    For those of you who are fasting, how much juice do you drink in a day?
    I was content with what my book recommended at 3 quarts a day (1 for B, 1 for lunch, 1 for Dinner) this alongside 3 quartz of water a day. You can have more or less...you can't OD on veggie juice. My wife who is much smaller coming in around 100lbs and finished her 5 day fast today, only needed half that.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markj2k4 View Post
    1 day =
    2 granny smith apples ($1)
    4 carrots ($.50)
    1 bunch of dino kale ($1)
    1 celery bunch ($1)
    1 fresh whole pinapple ($3)
    1 cucumber ($1)

    I also have thrown zucchini in there, parsley, braeburn apples, grapefruit, navel oranges all still $7-8 for a full day of juice.

    Admittedly I have an amazing local market that has incredibly cheap produce. If your using whole paycheck or big box supermarket I really can't vouch for prices. If you have a discount retailer or ethnic market locally I bet you can find good prices on produce.



    The only problem is that this "cheap" produce is not organic and at least a couple of the items are in the "dirty dozen", so the smoothie was like 50 percent pesticide! Apples and celery are like number one and two on the list - so you had a pesticide smoothie.

    Isn't one of the main points of fasting to eliminate toxins from the system?

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    I ended/gave up on my juice fast on the 8th day yesterday so I thought I'd chime in with my experiences.
    My primary motivation to try this is for weight loss. In the 7 days that I did the juice fast I lost about 10 pounds, since eating yesterday afternoon, I gained back 3 pounds already.
    Ideally, I'd like to drop about 15 pounds total to maintain a healthy weight(5'9" 153-155lbs) so I have probably 8 more pounds to go.

    During my fast, I did feel more alert and awake but I also felt like energy level were down. On day 1 and day 3 of the fast I tried to do my normal ride up Pleasanton Ridge. Both rides I was definitely more tired than normal when I got to the top. On both rides I cut my ride somewhat short by taking the most direct way back down to my car. On day 5 and 6 I tried to ride my new trainer and day 5 was ok but day 6 I had to stop after 30 minutes, juice, and then ride another 30 minutes.

    As far as food cravings/being hungry goes, the 2nd day of the fast was the worst day for me with pretty severe food cravings even though I wasn't really hungry, I just wanted to eat stuff for some reason. After the 2nd-3rd day, the cravings subsided somewhat but never really went away completely. My daily routine during the fast seemed to consist of waking feeling good, but as the day wore on I get more and more cravings until dinner time when I'm ready to give up and start eating again. Same thing happened yesterday and in the late afternoon I caved and started eating again.

    For the future I plan to stick to juicing and for now will replace 1 or 2 meals a day with juicing until I reach my weight goal, then I will probably switch over to blending for veggie/fruit shakes to maintain weight.

    Overall it was a good experience and I will probably do a 5-7 day fast once or twice a year and maybe some 2-3 day fasts here and there.

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    to clarify, over 50% of the produce there is organic, some lists as organic on the receipt, some does not. What isn't organic on there is the cucumber (which I peel) and the carrots, which isn't a high risk of pesticide contaminants.

    The apples, kale, celery, and parsley are organic despite the receipt you have to look for that produce with the "9's"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    I ended/gave up on my juice fast on the 8th day yesterday so I thought I'd chime in with my experiences.
    My primary motivation to try this is for weight loss. In the 7 days that I did the juice fast I lost about 10 pounds, since eating yesterday afternoon, I gained back 3 pounds already.
    Ideally, I'd like to drop about 15 pounds total to maintain a healthy weight(5'9" 153-155lbs) so I have probably 8 more pounds to go.

    During my fast, I did feel more alert and awake but I also felt like energy level were down. On day 1 and day 3 of the fast I tried to do my normal ride up Pleasanton Ridge. Both rides I was definitely more tired than normal when I got to the top. On both rides I cut my ride somewhat short by taking the most direct way back down to my car. On day 5 and 6 I tried to ride my new trainer and day 5 was ok but day 6 I had to stop after 30 minutes, juice, and then ride another 30 minutes.

    As far as food cravings/being hungry goes, the 2nd day of the fast was the worst day for me with pretty severe food cravings even though I wasn't really hungry, I just wanted to eat stuff for some reason. After the 2nd-3rd day, the cravings subsided somewhat but never really went away completely. My daily routine during the fast seemed to consist of waking feeling good, but as the day wore on I get more and more cravings until dinner time when I'm ready to give up and start eating again. Same thing happened yesterday and in the late afternoon I caved and started eating again.

    For the future I plan to stick to juicing and for now will replace 1 or 2 meals a day with juicing until I reach my weight goal, then I will probably switch over to blending for veggie/fruit shakes to maintain weight.

    Overall it was a good experience and I will probably do a 5-7 day fast once or twice a year and maybe some 2-3 day fasts here and there.
    Terrific write up and nice work! Curious about a couple things:
    1) this was juice ONLY, yes?
    2) did you do a pre-fast diet or just jump right in? (pre-fast really helps with the first three days and weight loss)
    3) how much did you drink per day and did you equal that with water?

    What surprises me the most was that on the 8th day, your hunger was too strong to keep going. On day 8, I had zero food hunger/craving. Puzzling. (without doing enemas, the body is unable to get the nutrients so if you did not do this awkward step, may have contributed to the cravings as you may not have been getting all the nutrients needed to ward of cravings...just a hunch)

    Also, your weight gain is simply the weight of food in your body and water...fear not!

    Great job all the same...I am certain you purged lots of bad stuff and seems the experience was valuable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Terrific write up and nice work! Curious about a couple things:
    1) this was juice ONLY, yes?
    2) did you do a pre-fast diet or just jump right in? (pre-fast really helps with the first three days and weight loss)
    3) how much did you drink per day and did you equal that with water?

    What surprises me the most was that on the 8th day, your hunger was too strong to keep going. On day 8, I had zero food hunger/craving. Puzzling. (without doing enemas, the body is unable to get the nutrients so if you did not do this awkward step, may have contributed to the cravings as you may not have been getting all the nutrients needed to ward of cravings...just a hunch)

    Also, your weight gain is simply the weight of food in your body and water...fear not!

    Great job all the same...I am certain you purged lots of bad stuff and seems the experience was valuable.
    Yup only juice. I got a cheapie Hamilton beach big mouth juicer off amazon for $40 cuz I wasn't willing to drop $200 on something I might only use for a week(looking to get an omega 8006 juicer now though)
    I didn't really do a per-fast, just jumped in. In fact, the day I started I went in with the thought of just trying it for 1 meal and seeing what happened. I even bought a sandwich for lunch in case I couldn't take it when I went shopping for all the produce.
    I drank a pint glass full each time I juice and I would drink 3 glasses a day if I didn't exercise that day. If I exercised, I would drink 1 or 2 more. As for water I would drink at least 3 or more pint glasses a day. I think more like 5 or 6.
    During the fast, it wasn't like I was feeling hungry, I think it was more wanting something that I knew I couldn't have. Hard to explain

    Looking back, I feel like I should have read the book first or did more research. I'm going to get the book and follow it next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    I was content with what my book recommended at 3 quarts a day (1 for B, 1 for lunch, 1 for Dinner) this alongside 3 quartz of water a day. You can have more or less...you can't OD on veggie juice. My wife who is much smaller coming in around 100lbs and finished her 5 day fast today, only needed half that.
    Just saw this. 1 quart of juice per meal. That's 2 pints so I guess I wasn't drinking enough juice. Maybe that's why I had the food cravings.

    Oh and I forgot to mention, the first 3 days I was dropping 2 lbs a day, then after that it was about 1 lb a day

    Again, I think it would be wise for anyone who wants to try this to either get the book recommended by squashyo or do more research before attempting. Don't do it half assed like I did, haha

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    My poo is not green! Day four of the detox. This morning's meal consisted of a fruit cup of grapefruit, mango, orange and mint. I think my tastebuds are developing a liking to this. Seems I can 'taste' something different in the food that draws me to it over processed food now. Last night we had a few chips on the table and I would usually go for those, but actually preferred the vegetable soup. We have been adding salsa or hot sauce to some of the food-need my hot sauce. Haven't been on a ride so can't say how this had affected my riding, but both I and my fiancé have both agreed we feel more pep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson34 View Post
    My poo is not green! Day four of the detox. This morning's meal consisted of a fruit cup of grapefruit, mango, orange and mint. I think my tastebuds are developing a liking to this. Seems I can 'taste' something different in the food that draws me to it over processed food now. Last night we had a few chips on the table and I would usually go for those, but actually preferred the vegetable soup. We have been adding salsa or hot sauce to some of the food-need my hot sauce. Haven't been on a ride so can't say how this had affected my riding, but both I and my fiancé have both agreed we feel more pep.
    Dude, you are kicking ass buddy! Keep it up!

    Yes, I noticed an enhanced flavor setting especially when I started eating again. Try to get some cardio going if possible...let's ride soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pwu_1 View Post
    Just saw this. 1 quart of juice per meal. That's 2 pints so I guess I wasn't drinking enough juice. Maybe that's why I had the food cravings.

    Oh and I forgot to mention, the first 3 days I was dropping 2 lbs a day, then after that it was about 1 lb a day

    Again, I think it would be wise for anyone who wants to try this to either get the book recommended by squashyo or do more research before attempting. Don't do it half assed like I did, haha
    Yeah, sounds like you could have really boosted your nutritional intake by more than double. Would've helped a lot I think. I went willy nilly and didn't do the pre-diet which made day 1 and 2 a little harder than normal. My wife just finished hers and she had zero problems all the way through (she did 5 days...wanted to go longer but a party next week shot it down).

    I hope you didn't dive right into a pulled pork sandwich...you really should ease back in with mostly veggies and fruit for 5 days.
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    I'm on day 5, the results in weight loss ain't that huge, but in terms of body fat/muscle definition, they are clearly visible. I can relate partially to pwu_1 cravings. I have been vegetarian for a while, so, it ain't craving for bacon or a steak or whatever. It is more like, I want to chew something.

    The sleep patterns keep awkward, but I always wake up full of energy. Also, the more free time I have, the rougher the desire to chew something is... If I keep busy all day, I don't have any. The whey protein + water keep me full for a while, and completely subside the desire to chew. Also, hot tea with a hint of honey tastes really good. I am embracing the green juice taste. It is survivable, not fond on that for now.

    Also, today I had to cook the veggies I had because the expiry date was approaching. After 2h in that damn kitchen, I now realize how long cooking took. I usually taste a bit of the food while cooking to know if it needs to cook longer/more salt/etc. I still did that, and the cooked spinach I tasted to measure the salt content were as good as ever. Weird that I like them so much even just boiled, but I can hardly stand their taste when raw. Hopefully it won't be half of a dessert spoon that ruins my fast. Even the small particles in the juice should be a lot more than what I ate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Yeah, sounds like you could have really boosted your nutritional intake by more than double. Would've helped a lot I think. I went willy nilly and didn't do the pre-diet which made day 1 and 2 a little harder than normal. My wife just finished hers and she had zero problems all the way through (she did 5 days...wanted to go longer but a party next week shot it down).

    I hope you didn't dive right into a pulled pork sandwich...you really should ease back in with mostly veggies and fruit for 5 days.
    I had some mandarin oranges and a little bit of trail mix as a snack and then for dinner had soup noodles(mostly soup) with mostly vegetables and a little bit of meatball.

    Day 2 of eating and I'm finding that I don't feel the need to eat as much as before to feel full.

    Definitely going to try and eat more healthy now and get more fresh fruits and vegetables.

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    I just realised that your 3 quarts of juice would equal around 3 litre... I make around 1l of juice per day, and dilute it 1:1 with water. To make those 3 quarts, I'd need a fckton of vegetables and fruit... I guess since I drink the whey protein, I don't need that many green fuel, but even then, 3 quarts of juice seems a lot now (considering how few juice the greens yield, at least compared to fruit)

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    Going to load up the bike on the truck tomorrow and sneak out of work early. Going to either hit up St Joes, Kennedy or maybe Santa Teresa for a quick ride around noon. Hopefully I'm not any slower than I was or loss of energy-I had none to spare! Thinking I will probably substitute 2 meals with juice at work as often as I can and eat a 'healthier' meal at home with the fam.

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    I am going on day 6 and still feel great, For breakfast I use mostly fruit with some spinach & kale or collard and almond milk and to get through the day I blend up about 3 pints with some pineapple or strawberries and mango, spinach, kale, carrots, celery, lettuce and coconut water and just drink a little every hour or two throughout the day.
    I do notice that if I wait to long to have a drink I start craving real chewable food but almost as fast as I drink my juice the craving for solid food subsides. I have dinner reservations for saturday night so lets see if I can eat somewhat well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytripper63 View Post
    I am going to have to look around and see what else is near me, apparently whole paycheck is putting a dent in my bike fund from the looks of your prices.
    Thanks
    My local market was closed when I finally made it back to the neighborhood tonight, so I stopped at safeway for tomorrows dranks - I got all of the aforementioned ingredients all organic except the carrots and cucumbers (as before) and it was $2 more expensive (less the pineapple since I have a few at home - so add $3.50 for that).

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    Feeling pretty good about myself. I had originally planned on a 3-7 day detox (or more), but instead I have been juicing during the day (usually 3 juices of ~20 ounces each) and eating a sensible meal (often organic and meat-free) for dinner and exercising ~4 days a week with one of those days being a big ride. The results have been fantastic thus far.

    My weight at the start of juicing (December 27th).
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    My weight today (Jan.12th) just over two weeks later (and a day after a big ride). Probably twice a week I have had big dinners at family gatherings, or watching football, but the weight still keeps coming off.
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    Definitely getting addicted to seeing the weight come off, even though I know I am at the stage where it will come off slower. I've been drinking less beer, eating less ice-cream (none in fact, though there are two 1/2 gallons in the freezer), avoiding fast food, and just eating less all around. This morning was a big deal. I was at a fundraiser at my daughters school and they had free donuts for all the volunteers. I walked over, looked at them (a few of my favorites were in there--old fashion and cake donuts), I smelled them and they smelled great, but then went to my car and grabbed an apple. Sure it was solid food, but I knew they would have donuts there, so eating that apple while others were scarfing down donuts...well, lets just say I felt pretty damn proud and knew at that point that I will indeed achieve my overall weight and fitness goals.
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    We have a dehydrator and dried apples saved me more than once when my sweet tooth started itching.

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    Well done

    By the end of day 7, I have dropped from 75kg to 69kg. That should be like 13 pounds. I guess when I restart eating, at least 3-5 pound will come back. If the body fat doesn't return, that is fine by me. I'll try to keep up to day 10, but today everyone at home made piri-piri chicken, a traditional dish from home. I ended up tasting the sauce with a bit of bread. I didn't eat the chicken, or anything else, but had to taste the sauce (both for respect to the cooker, and due to the smell).

    I am actually considering restarting eating salad tomorrow, and in Monday introduce cooked veggies, and by wednesday resume with my veggie diet. It is not that this is hard, but I miss chewing something. The idea would be juices through the day and salad at night. I still don't enjoy that much the darker greens, while lettuce and the other light greens are easy peasy. I guess since my eating has me losing weight since August, then getting back to it with the lunch and breakfast changed into juice, will only keep that behaviour. Basically, as long as I keep eating smart, it should be fine.

    Any idea why in the reboot with joe they don't juice exclusively for more than 5 days? Yesterday was rough for me, possibly due to the below freezing temperatures outside, but since the weather has been this cold, getting up in the morning is hard, I don't feel the same energy spike that I felt in days 2-5... Maybe my body is fighting the cold from the night (the heating is broken, so even inside, it is cold.) On the other hand, everyone else at home went sick, and I have been fine

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    How is muscle recovery on this diet? My gf and I are about to to take on a juice diet starting Wednesday or Thursday.

    I'm mostly vegetarian these days and tend to feel all of these bonuses described (more energy, more alert, faster on the bike, etc) when I go full vegetarian for weeks on end. Meat seems to slow me down. That being said, I'm a bike commuter that puts in 45 minutes of hard riding to the office and coming home and can feel the difference the next day if I dont have my hemp protein smoothie at the end of the day.

    Not sure if its just the green stuff that I put in the smoothie (hemp protein + spinach and kale) or the protein itself that makes me feel so well the next day but if I skip the smoothie I'm in pain trying to ride days in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTscoob View Post
    How is muscle recovery on this diet? My gf and I are about to to take on a juice diet starting Wednesday or Thursday.

    I'm mostly vegetarian these days and tend to feel all of these bonuses described (more energy, more alert, faster on the bike, etc) when I go full vegetarian for weeks on end. Meat seems to slow me down. That being said, I'm a bike commuter that puts in 45 minutes of hard riding to the office and coming home and can feel the difference the next day if I dont have my hemp protein smoothie at the end of the day.

    Not sure if its just the green stuff that I put in the smoothie (hemp protein + spinach and kale) or the protein itself that makes me feel so well the next day but if I skip the smoothie I'm in pain trying to ride days in a row.
    I can only speak for personal experience but I felt no ill effects mentioned above. 45 minutes both ways should be no problem at all as long as you are juicing at work. You will have so much energy that I think you will KOM this commute. One thing I would recommend however is to start on a Friday so that when Monday rolls around, you have hit that energy phase. If you start Wed/Thurs, you may find it hard to work as your body flushes the remaining foods and settles into the detox. I say try without the additional protein and if you find it's not working, have the protein on hand...either way, you're gonna benefit.

    ALSO, HIGHLY recommend doing the pre-diet (something I didn't do). Use the first three days to purge your system of bile/mucus/toxins by starting the day drinking a healthy shot of olive oil, garlic, and lemon juice. This tricks your system into thinking a double cheeseburger is on the way so takes into the stomach all kinds of bad stuff and bile to prepare for the digestion. You follow this shot with tons of raw veggies/fruit and herbal laxatives/liver tonic which flushes all that crap out. This really helps in detoxing in mass quantities right off the bat which makes for transitioning into the fast WAY easier. Most people say the first three days are rough but with this regiment, you can reduce and almost eliminate the side effects of starting a fast.

    Personally, I would read the book I mentioned on page one and follow that to a tee.

    Good luck and have fun...it's a wild but fun ride.

    Great job SOB and G-g by the way!
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    I finished up the 5 day detox on Friday. Went on a leisure ride to St Joseph's from Campbell around noon. Felt ok, had enough strength to make it up and back with no problem, but did feel a little lack of energy. Took a honey stinger package half way into St Joseph's which helped.
    Saturday and Sunday ate 'normal' food. Went to the supermarket to grab stuff for juicing this week. I know my pants feel looser and I feel better overall. I need to read the book further to understand this better. Overall I think this is something I want in my life. Thanks for starting the thread. Congrats to everyone doing it and those who tried and got something out of it!

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    I am on day 2 of normal food. Surprisingly, food doesn't taste anywhere near as good as it did before.
    I'll stick with fruit juice for breakfast, and keep juicing until lunch, and only from them onwards eat solid.

    I feel so full with so less food it is impressive. I lifted while doing the fast, but took protein shakes (whey protein and water), 1 scoop each (25g), twice a day. Never felt so good. Day 6 was rough, but I guess it is relate do a 10ºC drop in temperature in London.

    I am feeling pretty bad after dinner, I ate what would have been 2/3 of my regular meal and I feel like I'm going to burst (and it was a salad... I can't imagine those who go back to meat and whatnot may feel).

    Another problem with solid food is that it takes long to cook. It requires chewing. It requires dedicated eating time (I can easily drink juice and work, but fork and knife food isn't compatible with multitasking). Oh, solid food requires you to poop... Surprisingly, between days 4-8, I didn't require that xD And solid food produces gas in your intestines, just sayin. The GF noticed that today, I guess after a week of clean air, a small leak today made her rage about that... She reinforced the idea about extra energy.

    The only side effect from the fast for me was the weird sleep patterns. Waking up at 3 or 4 a.m. full of energy wasn't easy, and rolling to the other side and sleeping more is the worst thing one can do. By day 6 and 7, I was waking at 5 a.m., would drink the tea, watch TV/read book/reply to emails, to make time. Yesterday (day 8), went for a walk at like 6am, still dark, super cold, but perfect to clear the mind.

    I have been doing a diary, and I plan to keep doing that until like day 15 or so. By day 2 with food, regained under 2 pounds (I am on 70.0-70.1kg, the number floats). Even if I regain more weight, as long as it isn't fat (if it is only food and leftovers in the digestive system), I don't care about the weight coming back. The reduction in body fat is very noticeable, I could see difference on a daily basis, not through the day, but in the following morning.

    I also have pics of that, but dunno if they should end up in the internet. Unfortunately, no day 0 or day 1 pic, only day 2-8 (forgot today also...)

    EDIT: I only stopped after day 7 due to a social event this wednesday, and I wanted to give a few days to readapt. Day 1 of normal food was only raw vegetables and fruit (lettuce, tomato, corn and onion salad, some fruits) and juice.
    Today, I reintroduced cooked veggies, and since GF baked cookies, I ate two (my taste buds changed, I would have been all over that cookie tray, but not now...).
    Guess tomorrow I'll bring beans and similar, by day 4, put pasta and rice, and by day 5 carry on with my regular veggie diet. But changing the breakfast and lunch for juice will be forever, so much more energy in the morning. The oatmeal in the morning was a pain to digest in retrospective

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    Quote Originally Posted by G_g View Post
    I am on day 2 of normal food. Surprisingly, food doesn't taste anywhere near as good as it did before.
    What I noticed is regular food is SO SALTY, blah! I had vegetarian pho last night for dinner and got a migraine from the salt in the broth and chapped lips. Jebus, I don't remember stuff being so salty. I also ate a single ruffle chip and had to spit it out because it was so salty tasting.

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    What is the difference between eating the stalks of kale, celery, carrots
    vs consuming in the form of juice

    does the juicing actually break it down better so it absorb in your digestive tract better?

    obviously, I can't afford a juicer.

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    I think it just makes it more convenient to drink rather than eat a plate full of veggie delights.

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    Juice contains no fibre, hence no digestion required. My juicer was 30 pounds which is less than 50 dollars.
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