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    I'm going to upgrade to a new juicer. We are selling our old juicer. Here's a link if you want a cheap way to get going on this new lifestyle:

    omega 4000 juicer

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    So I mentioned this thread to my wife a week or so ago and somehow ended up with a Jack Lalanne (Walmart special?) juicer from my in laws. Does this thing suck balls or what?

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    I think almost every manual for a juicer says not to put your balls in any opening no matter what the circumstance. My Super Angel 5500 just arrived in San Fran today...should be here tomorrow! yes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    I think almost every manual for a juicer says not to put your balls in any opening no matter what the circumstance.
    Thanks for the tip. I guess it's back to asking my wife if she'll do it then.

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    After today's terrible performance on my bike at Ft. Ord, I read this thread with some enthusiasm. I think my diet is partly to blame for my current mental (lack of serious interest or enthusiasm for anything) and physical (slow, tired, bleh) state despite being at what I think is a good BMI (6'4", 215lbs).

    But you lost me at enema.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Thanks Dion...good stuff! I am also a vegetarian but eat seafood.
    Nope, you're an omnivore. I don't eat much meat, zero through the week and even on the weekends usually, but today I had a tibeten pork sandwich, which was rare for me. I'd say one meat-meal per week is about my average. I wouldn't ever call myself a vegitarian, as long as I occasionally eat some kind of meat. I've found that cutting out almost all meat doesn't have any negative effect, the problem is that most of us eat way too much meat, far more than we process or "need" as a result of exercise. We think we HAVE to eat meat for every meal, because that's simply how we've always done it. There's a lot of ways to lose weight, but exercising to keep metabolism up, eating less and more frequently to limit calories while still keeping energy up, and just making smart choices that aren't loaded with sodium, sugar, oil or fat make a huge difference. Drink a lot of water too, but those "big three" will likely get great results for anyone. Sticking to it can be tougher. I dropped 60lbs before I started getting a little back as muscle.

    It's not that I don't still like a nice steak, hamburger, or roast, it's just that I like myself more
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    Awesome thread squashyo, this has given me a kick in the pants to get my diet corrected too.
    Tomorrow i am going to try the pre-fast diet according to Steven Bailey's book as i've been reading it today. So it looks like he advises going into the juice diet directly after that.

    I'll give those recipies everyone provided a try next with my soon to be arriving juicer!
    Although i cant give up coffee just yet...

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    Stoked to hear how it goes Randomroot...coffee was a ***** for me and I had headaches for a couple days but I am now off it entirely and have more energy for it. If you are looking to do a cleanse, I'd try to do it without coffee...I think the whole point is to relieve your system of dealing with the chemicals so they can just chill out for a change and detox. I dunno though...I do think you will find that you absolutely do not 'need' the coffee in the AM because you'll have crazy weird energy and clarity from the cleanse...my $.02 but I aint no expert.

    On another topic, my Super Angel 5500 arrived today and just had my first drink...holy crap!!! Hands down, best juice drink I ever had...very stoked about this investment.

    Cheers everyone
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    Thoughts on why a good juicer is better than a good blender like a vitamix for heath reasons?
    My instinct is that its better to eat the whole veggie/friut, but I don't really know.
    Thinking of giving this thing a go, better health is more important than ever as we all age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Mayhem View Post
    Thoughts on why a good juicer is better than a good blender like a vitamix for heath reasons?
    My instinct is that its better to eat the whole veggie/friut, but I don't really know.
    Thinking of giving this thing a go, better health is more important than ever as we all age.
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    I am not entirely sure but they both have great qualities. The Juicer allows you to consume greater amounts of nutrients in one sitting because that's all you're digesting. Good luck powering down 6 carrots, 6 celery sticks, a large beat, Kale, and an apple with the blender...just too much fiber. And also, the juicer is key to participating in the fast mentioned...the fast is designed to eliminate all fiber and give your internals a break.

    However, I hear great things about the blender or full fiber shakes. Still encourages great eating and the fiber is a good thing. You can also power down large quantities of good stuff rather than having to eat it the old fashioned way.
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    Fiber is awesome. I've never pooped so well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdubsl2 View Post
    But you lost me at enema.
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    I had my normal Kale shake this morning. Ready to go clean DogMeat!

    *yeah right*

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Mayhem View Post
    Thoughts on why a good juicer is better than a good blender like a vitamix for heath reasons?
    My instinct is that its better to eat the whole veggie/friut, but I don't really know.
    Thinking of giving this thing a go, better health is more important than ever as we all age.
    Thanks.

    The blender is to a juicer what a road bike is to a mtb.

    Not sure if that sentence makes any sense whatsoever

    But certain things you or maybe its just me, make more sense to be used in a blender
    like blueberry, strawberries, bananas and such.


    @squashyo, I would be really interested how the blender holds up over time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I had my normal Kale shake this morning. Ready to go clean DogMeat!
    The kale shake works! I lost 4 pounds this past week and the only thing that has changed in my diet is that I've been drinking 2 kale shakes a day for the past week.
    4 pounds in a week for me is a big deal, because it is very hard for me to drop weight.
    I'm just using a $50 hand blender and blending up a big handful of kale with stalk's a banana and an orange with enough water to make a shake consistency. If I'm having this shake after a ride I'll put a scoop of protein powder in.
    I have high cholesterol that runs in the family and is hard to control without medication. This is why I think the fiber from blending is important to me versus juicing. I need the fiber. The fiber also is keeping me full through the day which is stopping the snacking and probably what is leading to my losing 4 pounds in the past week.
    So for those not wanting to spend alot of money on a juicer, don't discount a hand blender. Cheap with low replacment cost, easy to use and fast to clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I had my normal Kale shake this morning. Ready to go clean DogMeat!

    *yeah right*

    Thanks for the recipe. I made one and it was pretty good! AND I felt awesome all day yesterday.

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    Do you actually juice/blend as needed or a batch for one, two or how many days?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Fiber is awesome. I've never pooped so well.
    I poop great all the time, and am on and off the toilet in a jiffy. It’s all the fresh habañeros. I call them power poops.
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    This thread makes me feel like I'm in some weird twilight zone, where all the stuff I did that made me seem weird to other people now feels oddly... mainstream!

    Blended vs. Juiced:
    Blended drinks are great for your normal, everyday diet. Everyone should have them every day. Juicing is great for a periodic fast/cleanse, or a cleansing daily pre-breakfast ritual. It's important during a fast/cleanse to give your intestines a rest, so you don't want the fiber/roughage. Fruits and veggies are naturally cleansing anyway, so you probably could do a cleanse on 100% blended drinks, but it would be a slow, mild cleanse. In short - both have their purpose, like having a 29'er and a 26'er.

    Just a word about food combining: The rules of proper food combining can get really "OCD", like don't mix acid fruits with sweet fruits, (etc.) but meh - doesn't effect me at all. One rule I find useful is to not mix fruits with anything except greens. So, for example, don't have a smoothie with your eggs & toast. The only other big rule worth following (imo) is to not mix grains & proteins - so don't even eat your eggs with toast. Drink the smoothie, wait an hour or so for it to empty the stomach before having anything else. I also don't add protein powders or nuts other weird supplements. Just fruit and greens.

    This is a winter blended drink I've been doing lately to boost my immunity and it tastes great!
    1 or 2 bananas (or more depending on how hungry you are)
    3 peeled tangerines or mandarins - they are awesome this time of year. Navel oranges work, but they are not sweet and tasty enough. I look for citrus where the skin looks loose as they are easier to peel.
    Juice from 1/2 a lime squeezed into the blender
    1/2 a package of frozen mango chunks (on sale now!)
    handful of spinach or chard
    teeny tiny bit of water (there's a lot of juice from the citrus)

    Greens have a lot of iron (among other vital minerals/electrolytes), and Vitamin C from the citrus helps with iron absorption.

    Here is a pic of one I made without the greens:
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    Anyone who is interested in changing their diet for the better should watch "Hungry for Change".

    It is on Netflix this month, and you can sign up for a free for 30 day trial to see it.

    This show makes it very easy to understand just why most of us have or have had problems with food and our diets at some point.

    It explains why we get addicted to food, and how to kick the "Dead Food" habit.

    You will never look at the grocery store the same again.

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    Excited to check out that movie!

    So, I just learned some crazy facts about Romaine Lettuce...the protien part tripped me out:

    1 – Protein. Believe it or not, romaine lettuce is 17% protein with 7.7 grams per head. It is also a complete protein! That means that it has all 8 essential amino acids, 9% RDA of some and up to 26% RDA of others.

    2 – Calcium. One head of romaine has 206mg of calcium (about 21% RDA). Blend it with calcium rich fruits like papaya and oranges and you’ll get more calcium than a glass of milk!

    3 – Omega-3s. One head of romaine lettuce contains 44% RDA of Omega-3 essential fats. Forget the tainted fish oils, reach for some leafy greens instead!

    4 – More Vitamin C Than An Orange. One head of romaine contains 167% RDA of vitamin C while an average sized orange contains only 92%.

    5 – Iron. One head of romaine contains 6mg of iron, which ads a significant source of iron to the diets of vegetarians and vegans.

    6 – Romaine Lettuce is Rich in B-vitamins: Thiamine (B1) – 38% RDA, Riboflavin (B2) – 32% RDA, Niacin (B3) – 12% RDA, Pantothenic Acid (B5) – 18%, Pyridoxine (B6) – 36 %, Folate (B9) – 213%!

    7 – Water. One head of romaine provides 16% of your daily water needs with about 20 ounces of water per head!

    8 – Rich Source of vitamin A (as beta-carotene) and K. As with most leafy greens, romaine is super rich in beta-carotene with 1817% RDA per head and has 535% RDA of vitamin K.

    9 – Low Levels of Oxalic Acid. If you have problems with calcium oxalate kidney stones, romaine lettuce might be a good choice for leafy greens since it is very low in this anti-nutrient.

    10 – Mineral-Rich. Don’t let the lighter color of romaine lettuce fool you. This not-so-dark leafy green is rich in minerals. One head contains copper (33% RDA), magnesium (22% RDA), manganese (42% RDA), phosphorus (27% RDA), potassium (33%), selenium (5% RDA) and zinc (13% RDA).
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    Glad you guys are enjoying the Kale shakes! I actually got the idea from Joe Rogan.

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    One of my concerns with 'Juicing' was shrinking testicles...oops, wrong type of juicing. What I meant was, my main concern was maintaining energy& strength during rides. The last few days I have been juicing during the day (3 juices, lots of water) and a sensible dinner (grandma's veggie soup and mushroom/spinach ravioli). Took the SS out on the 3rd morning, and after a breakfast juice I packed a bottle of pear/apple juice and a bottle of water w/squeezed lemon...to make a long story short, I don't think I felt any different from any other ride, but am still curious how I will feel with full-time juicing (I am confident I will feel fine). This ride was only ~18 miles w/just over 2k of climbing. The big test will be a 30+ mile ride with 5k+ of climbing.
    My goal, lose 20lbs with juicing and overall diet/lifestyle change. I will post updates on the blog (hey, at least my mother reads it) but will come back here to update periodically.
    Many good recipes out there, but my favorite thus far: 1/2 pineapple, 1 orange, 3 mandarins, 1 lemon, 1 lime, ~3/4 thumb of ginger. De-licious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.O.B. View Post
    One of my concerns with 'Juicing' was shrinking testicles...oops, wrong type of juicing. What I meant was, my main concern was maintaining energy& strength during rides. The last few days I have been juicing during the day (3 juices, lots of water) and a sensible dinner (grandma's veggie soup and mushroom/spinach ravioli). Took the SS out on the 3rd morning, and after a breakfast juice I packed a bottle of pear/apple juice and a bottle of water w/squeezed lemon...to make a long story short, I don't think I felt any different from any other ride, but am still curious how I will feel with full-time juicing (I am confident I will feel fine). This ride was only ~18 miles w/just over 2k of climbing. The big test will be a 30+ mile ride with 5k+ of climbing.
    My goal, lose 20lbs with juicing and overall diet/lifestyle change. I will post updates on the blog (hey, at least my mother reads it) but will come back here to update periodically.
    Many good recipes out there, but my favorite thus far: 1/2 pineapple, 1 orange, 3 mandarins, 1 lemon, 1 lime, ~3/4 thumb of ginger. De-licious!
    Please...keep us posted! My concern with this last juice is that it is a great deal of sugar. If you go full juice fast, I would stick with LOTS of carrots, celery, beets, and greens...use fruit sparingly to add slight flavor enhancements. I think you will find yourself sugar crashing with an all fruit juicet and you will find an amazing amount of benefits from all the veggie nutrients.

    Speaking of sugar, this video got me off sugar drinks...it's very long but insanely informative:

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    For those that are juicing, what do you do with all the pulp? I've always thought that the pulp in the fruits you juice, being high in fiber is very good for you. More so than just the juice itself. Also, since it's hard for the body to break down fibre, if you're looking to lose weight a high fibre diet would be a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.O.B. View Post
    One of my concerns with 'Juicing' was shrinking testicles...oops, wrong type of juicing. What I meant was, my main concern was maintaining energy& strength during rides. The last few days I have been juicing during the day (3 juices, lots of water) and a sensible dinner (grandma's veggie soup and mushroom/spinach ravioli). Took the SS out on the 3rd morning, and after a breakfast juice I packed a bottle of pear/apple juice and a bottle of water w/squeezed lemon...to make a long story short, I don't think I felt any different from any other ride, but am still curious how I will feel with full-time juicing (I am confident I will feel fine). This ride was only ~18 miles w/just over 2k of climbing. The big test will be a 30+ mile ride with 5k+ of climbing.
    My goal, lose 20lbs with juicing and overall diet/lifestyle change. I will post updates on the blog (hey, at least my mother reads it) but will come back here to update periodically.
    Many good recipes out there, but my favorite thus far: 1/2 pineapple, 1 orange, 3 mandarins, 1 lemon, 1 lime, ~3/4 thumb of ginger. De-licious!
    Food is medicine. Think about how badass bright red tomatoes, green kale, organic rice, black beans, plantains, avocados, organic carrots, tofu, or big, juicy apples are. Grilled veggies in a wheat tortilla with hot sauce, or a veggie sandwich with bright green sprouts, coconut water and some homemade chips. Garlic, onion and basil potatoes fried in coconut oil.

    This is pretty much how I eat.

    I like juicing, but, like I said, I don't think it's sustainable for long periods.

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    While eating better is wonderful and we have established that there are many ways to improve health, the point of this thread was to introduce a detoxification method known as veggie juice fasting. I think everyone should try it and it's not very hard at all. It is quite an experience and an adventure to boot...it also opens doorways to a much healthier lifestyle as I have found. I hope some will give it a go and report back to see if you got the same kick ass results that I did. For me, I have been off the fast for about a month...blood pressure still normal and weight loss has been maintained at mid 170s where I like to be. I no longer crave crappy food and reach for the fountain of youth foods I used to avoid. I plan to do my next fast in July...but in the meantime, psyched to start eating much better using many of the tools introduced in the delightful thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Please...keep us posted! My concern with this last juice is that it is a great deal of sugar. If you go full juice fast, I would stick with LOTS of carrots, celery, beets, and greens...use fruit sparingly to add slight flavor enhancements. I think you will find yourself sugar crashing with an all fruit juicet and you will find an amazing amount of benefits from all the veggie nutrients.
    Yeah, the only sugar drinks in our house are store bought organic juices, or the juice I make for my detox...certainly better than soda etc. (my wife would not allow it).
    I am going to allow myself one yummy fruit drink a day during my detox, and the one listed will likely be my favorite. Might even freeze some for dessert pops (might lose something in enzymes/nutrients, but still yummy!). My 'meal' drinks will be mostly veggy concoctions, like these:

    Morning 'Green' Glory
    1 cucumber
    3 kale leaves
    1 handful spinach
    3 celery stalks
    1 apple (I used a Fuji)
    1 mini lime (or 1/2 regular lime)
    1 mandarin
    Pretty darn good...my first ever concoction

    Veggie Experiment:
    2 kale leafs
    handful spinach
    2 celery stalks
    3-4 carrots
    3 tomatoes
    1 lime
    When mixed, it turns an earthy brown. Taste is earthy, but I like the kick the lime adds.

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    As far as the pulp, the juicer handbook comes with a nice recipe for making vegetable soup with the juice and pulp...also I plan on using some of the vegetable pulp in muffins and casseroles. I have read of people saving the fruit pulp to use in deserts. Fruit-Pulp-Pie anyone? Mm mmm!
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    Okay, I'm in

    Just got an Omega J2006 at Blood Bath and Beyond for $207 + tax. ($259.99 - 20% coupon.) Macy's online has it on sale for $208 until New Year's Day.

    Gonna do this Gonna get healthy. Gonna get back on the bike. Thanks to Squashyo for the thread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    Excited to check out that movie!

    So, I just learned some crazy facts about Romaine Lettuce...the protien part tripped me out:

    1 – Protein. Believe it or not, romaine lettuce is 17% protein with 7.7 grams per head. It is also a complete protein! That means that it has all 8 essential amino acids, 9% RDA of some and up to 26% RDA of others.

    2 – Calcium. One head of romaine has 206mg of calcium (about 21% RDA). Blend it with calcium rich fruits like papaya and oranges and you’ll get more calcium than a glass of milk!

    3 – Omega-3s. One head of romaine lettuce contains 44% RDA of Omega-3 essential fats. Forget the tainted fish oils, reach for some leafy greens instead!

    4 – More Vitamin C Than An Orange. One head of romaine contains 167% RDA of vitamin C while an average sized orange contains only 92%.

    5 – Iron. One head of romaine contains 6mg of iron, which ads a significant source of iron to the diets of vegetarians and vegans.

    6 – Romaine Lettuce is Rich in B-vitamins: Thiamine (B1) – 38% RDA, Riboflavin (B2) – 32% RDA, Niacin (B3) – 12% RDA, Pantothenic Acid (B5) – 18%, Pyridoxine (B6) – 36 %, Folate (B9) – 213%!

    7 – Water. One head of romaine provides 16% of your daily water needs with about 20 ounces of water per head!

    8 – Rich Source of vitamin A (as beta-carotene) and K. As with most leafy greens, romaine is super rich in beta-carotene with 1817% RDA per head and has 535% RDA of vitamin K.

    9 – Low Levels of Oxalic Acid. If you have problems with calcium oxalate kidney stones, romaine lettuce might be a good choice for leafy greens since it is very low in this anti-nutrient.

    10 – Mineral-Rich. Don’t let the lighter color of romaine lettuce fool you. This not-so-dark leafy green is rich in minerals. One head contains copper (33% RDA), magnesium (22% RDA), manganese (42% RDA), phosphorus (27% RDA), potassium (33%), selenium (5% RDA) and zinc (13% RDA).
    I'm glad to hear it and Thank You for all the great info above! I am interested in what your opinion is after viewing "Hungry for Change". I had to watch it twice, because of all the good information.

    My latest improvement to my diet is purple carrots. They are 25-30 times higher in anthocyanins than the orange carrot, which are the antioxidants found in blueberries and raspberries. Also putting cilantro and parsley in salads and juices for their detoxifying effects.

    Isn't getting healthy fun!
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    The only thing missing from this thread is FC offering to host a juice/shake taste test party, with continual showings of Forks Over Knives, Food Matters, etc...
    Bring yer blenders, juicers, fruits and veggies and we can swap recipes and see who's tastes the best.
    That might be enough to get Dion out of the house and to a MTBR party.

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    Do any of you hardcore motherfuckers throw the citrus peels (from oranges, lemons, limes, etc.) into your juices as well? Plenty of nutrition to be had in them, from what I have read.

    Meanwhile, my wife bought one of those “Magic Bullet” (“As seen on TV!” ) chingaderos last month, we are about to fire it up today for shits and giggles, but have metric craploads of key limes from a friend’s backyard… hoping to use the peels too just to be extra crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d-bug View Post
    That might be enough to get Dion out of the house and to a MTBR party.
    No doubt!!! Dude needs to UNPLUG and get some freakin’ R and R!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Do any of you hardcore mother****ers throw the citrus peels (from oranges, lemons, limes, etc.) into your juices as well? Plenty of nutrition to be had in them, from what I have read..
    I peel the mandarins and oranges because it is easy to do. I am lazy so the lemons and limes go in, peel and all. I guess another option would just be to squeeze the juice into your cup and stir, but again, I am lazy and I love watching my juicer beat the pulp out of those things (pun intended).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Do any of you hardcore mother****ers throw the citrus peels (from oranges, lemons, limes, etc.) into your juices as well? Plenty of nutrition to be had in them, from what I have read.
    Not hard core enough yet, though I am doing a morning smoothie regularly.

    I definitely use the citrus peels, making sure I wash the skin thoroughly. I've done so with lemons, limes, and tangerines.

    My usual morning smoothie is:

    A base of:
    A couple of celery stalks (supposed to burn more calories digesting than it actually has)
    A couple of leaves of Kale
    Ginger (probably a 1/2" by 1" section)
    1/2 a lemon or lime

    I then add, depending on mood/whats around:
    A spoon full of vanilla yogurt
    Pineapple
    Apple
    Carrot
    Berries
    A spoon full of nut butter (almond, usually) if I want a bit more fat/protein
    A hot pepper (ginger + pepper + lemon/lime are a great combo)
    A few leaves of spinach

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    first $60 if you're from mtbr and you're planning to juice more in the new year
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    A piece of advice if you are wondering what whole foods or real foods are. Real food does not have nutritional labels. And also, don't listen to anyone's fitness / nutritional tips who has less fitness / nutrition than you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord View Post
    And also, don't listen to anyone's fitness / nutritional tips who has less fitness / nutrition than you.
    I guess every coach and nutritionalist in the world is faster, stronger, better, and more fit than the athletes they are training?

    This thread is great. Keep it going. It's made a lot of folks re-think food, which is very positive. Squashyo, myself, or anybody who has positive experiences with these nutrient dense concoctions and sharing these recipes and experiences are doing many a great favor - and having "less" fitness or nutrition has nothing to do with that. It has to do with sharing a great experience and getting results, and opening peoples minds to different diets.

    I used to get extremely sick every year, with ridiculous temperatures and I'd be out for a week or more. This was at least 3X a year. Since drinking these kale shakes, supplementation and a dietary change, I have not been sick since day one. Is it out of line to share that with a stronger rider than myself?

    Anyway...

    This lady has it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    I guess every coach and nutritionalist in the world is faster, stronger, better, and more fit than the athletes they are training?

    This thread is great. Keep it going. It's made a lot of folks re-think food, which is very positive. Squashyo, myself, or anybody who has positive experiences with these nutrient dense concoctions and sharing these recipes and experiences are doing many a great favor - and having "less" fitness or nutrition has nothing to do with that. It has to do with sharing a great experience and getting results, and opening peoples minds to different diets.

    I used to get extremely sick every year, with ridiculous temperatures and I'd be out for a week or more. This was at least 3X a year. Since drinking these kale shakes, supplementation and a dietary change, I have not been sick since day one. Is it out of line to share that with a stronger rider than myself?

    Anyway...

    This lady has it right.

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    Awesome...my new morning smoothie will be a 3 lb block of cheddar with a handful of cheezits for fiber. Thank you for the inspiration...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gr8xscape View Post
    Awesome...my new morning smoothie will be a 3 lb block of cheddar with a handful of cheezits for fiber. Thank you for the inspiration...
    You will have to juice it for maximum effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gr8xscape View Post
    Awesome...my new morning smoothie will be a 3 lb block of cheddar with a handful of cheezits for fiber. Thank you for the inspiration...
    I was with you till the cheezits, that is just wrong, wheats would be okay but no you have to go overboard with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Dion, you never cease to amaze us with your ability to find the most offensive, disgusting pictures on teh intarwebs. “Yup, jus gon have mysef uh block uh chedduh fo launch tdaye, Skeeter!”
    Do St. Joe's with us tomorrow, homie.

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    Do St. Joe's with us tomorrow, homie.
    Would love to, but I will be riding the Los Alamitos singletrack with my wife and boys, hopefully we’ll end up all the way out to the Fortini side of STCP. My boys need a good 16-mile round trip.
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    You guys are funny.
    Just wait until you do a group ride with us (Team Social Pace). Dion, Ancient Rascal, Nelson34, just to name a few, will have you rolling in stitches with laughter. Freakin’ serial jokesters.
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    Just watched Hungry for Change last night with family. AWESOME documentary. My kids are now super fired up to eat veggies and fruit...wow!
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    juice of the day....kale, spinach, celery, beets, oranges, apples, ginger. Pretty tasty!

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    I got:
    Carrots, celery, snap peas, apple, beet+stems/leaves, purple cabbage, zucchini, purple kale and UDOs Oil...damn good!!!!
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    My kids are now super fired up to eat veggies and fruit...wow!
    That is VERY cool!

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    Two pieces of advice I received a long time ago regarding nutrition:

    1. If your great grandmother wouldn't have recognized it, skip it. Take yogurt. Yes, she would have recognized basic yogurt. But chemical concoctions like "GoGurt" she would not. Juices yes. Monster "Energy drinks" nope. This pretty much eliminates almost all processed foods.
    2. Stick to the border of the supermarket. What's on the walls? Fruits, vegetables, fish, chicken, dairy etc.. In the middle... "fish sticks", "chicken tenders", fruit "smoothies"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Try this

    Get a bundle of kale - $2
    A bunch of bananas - $2
    High quality orange juice

    6-8 oz. of OJ
    4-5 de-stalked kale
    1 banana
    Did that yesterday and it was approved by the misses,
    our kale is still going strong even it dipped onto the low 20's more than once.
    It is very fulfilling for me to be able to go out in the garden and just pick stuff.

    I am trying to stay simple and also use the blender,
    this worked also for us.

    1 apple or pear, cut into large pieces
    2 stalks of celery, cut into large pieces
    2 handfuls of spinach or other dark leafy greens
    1/2 banana
    add 1 or more cups of water to blend very smoothly.

    credits to Mimi Kirk's Live Raw book.

    I also watched Hungry for change again yesterday and it was a good reminder about a lot of things.

    One thing I need to keep myself reminding of is that food companies do not necessarily have your best interests in mind.

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    @Dion. The simple statement of wasn't meant to attack you - not sure why you'd interpret that way. "A piece of advice if you are wondering what whole foods or real foods are. Real food does not have nutritional labels. And also, don't listen to anyone's fitness / nutritional tips who has less fitness / nutrition than you."

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    Just watched Hungry for change. I found it pretty disappointing.
    While I agree with everything they were saying, they had no facts or studies or proof to backup any claims or statements. It seemed to be a bunch of "experts" all agreeing with each other. I thought forks over knives was better in that they site specific studies, or were even the people conducting the studies.
    I eventually turned off hungry for change before finishing it. It felt more like a 90 minute infomercial, even incorporating a "here's Jane, unhealthy, no makeup, hair a mess, with a sad color filter on the camera", followed by "here's Jane after juicing one day. She wakes up to a new life, beautiful hair, perfect makeup, and a happy color filter on the camera".

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    "Colonics" not "Enemas"

    Sheesh don't mess up years of marketing strategy! (maybe more on this later)

    but...

    Quote Originally Posted by d-bug View Post
    Just watched Hungry for change. I found it pretty disappointing.
    While I agree with everything they were saying, they had no facts or studies or proof to backup any claims or statements. It seemed to be a bunch of "experts" all agreeing with each other. I thought forks over knives was better in that they site specific studies, or were even the people conducting the studies.
    I eventually turned off hungry for change before finishing it. It felt more like a 90 minute infomercial, even incorporating a "here's Jane, unhealthy, no makeup, hair a mess, with a sad color filter on the camera", followed by "here's Jane after juicing one day. She wakes up to a new life, beautiful hair, perfect makeup, and a happy color filter on the camera".
    ...I felt the same way; couldn't get all the way through it---"infomercial" indeed. I was able to watch the whole 1-1/2 hours of "The Skinny on Obesity" with Dr. Lustig ( Sugar: The Bitter Truth - YouTube! ) previously linked here and found it time well spent. But even this "scientific" presentation is slightly biased IMHO in that researchers need to sell their research to keep that funding coming. No matter, as Lustig says; "politics".

    My commentary on "juicing" comes more from anecdote than personal experience; I have (do) enjoyed "juices" but have never bothered with a juice fast. Didn't need to; while I was still a young lad I had several relatives (and a couple of neighbors) very much involved in the "movement". (yes pun intended) Observing their triumphs and tribulations was enough for me to adopt the "anything in moderation" philosophy. (Nothing moderate about an enem...errr colonic)

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    Inherited from my uncles; these units dispel the myth that "if you juice; you'll live forever". I think for a little while, they actually believed this mantra. Which at the time wasn't too extreme as there were (are) some "quacks" claiming that if you were totally "clean" you could live on air/sunlight alone ("Breatharians")

    Lest I waste the rest of the day ranting I'll leave with the comment that this topic is great in that it promotes nutritional awareness...

    ...be careful what you put up your butt...

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    Inspired by this thread and started my 90 day weight loss plan. Hopefully this works.
    Breakfast today:
    2 kale stalks
    1 kiwi
    1 green apple
    1 bananna
    8oz OJ

    Down the hatch we go

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    Um, that seems like a LOT of sugar.
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    I would not call Hungry for change a informercial since they are not really plugging their products like they do in informercials.

    I would see that movie more like a easy to digest entree for people who want to change their lifestyle
    and do not need full depth information.

    Besides, who wants to live forever anyway?
    Not me, I just want to cut down on the adult diaper years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pliebenberg View Post
    ...be careful what you put up your butt...
    Wiser words were never spoken.

    In prep for a juice fast, I have been experimenting with juicing during the day and eating a sensible meal at night (all vegetarian until a couple turkey meatballs on NewYears Eve). Now I find that since I started (Dec. 27th) I have lost nearly 6lbs. I can still exercise and feel strong doing it. In fact today was 25+ miles with over 4k of climbing...felt better than ever coming up the final 2 mile climb (Stagecoach)...and all I had for breakfast was a high sugar citrus blend juice and then lemon water in two bottles for the ride.

    This has me rethinking my intended detox and just continuing with what I have been doing (a slower detox). Ultimately my goal is to loose weight and get healthier...I think I am.

    Here was my post ride drink:
    2 leafs kale
    2 tomatoes
    3 carrots
    1 handful spinach
    1 beet (stalks, leafs and all)
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    It was pretty darn good.

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    I got a Nutribullet for Xmas. Been eating lots of greens and feeling great because of it.

    That afternoon nap that I always feel necessary is no longer there and my winter riding has been very strong.

    My wife thinks I'm hilarious because I now just discovered "the vegetable" but I have been telling everyone about it.

    Good to hear I'm not the only one going on a health kick

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    Sounds interesting. It is interesting that after 3 days the hunger cravings subsided some for the OP. I think that there is a withdrawal effect the more you eat and what you eat. I have found that eating big meals, made my hunger increased after the food digested and I got just caveman hunger for the next meal.

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    This thread got me all excited. I am and have been a giant fan of juicing vegetables and fruits for some time..
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    So do you guys peel your root vegetables like beets, ginger, and carrots or just throw the whole thing in there?

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    I don't but I read that the skin of the beet can be bitter. I have tried peeling this skin but didn't notice any changes. I am told that you should peel Cucumbers if they feel waxy (organic usually does not have this).
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    I would peel them almost all if they are not organic but I try to eat less and switch to fully organic or home grown for juicing and blending and than I do not peel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Novice View Post
    I got a Nutribullet for Xmas. Been eating lots of greens and feeling great because of it.

    That afternoon nap that I always feel necessary is no longer there and my winter riding has been very strong.

    My wife thinks I'm hilarious because I now just discovered "the vegetable" but I have been telling everyone about it.

    Good to hear I'm not the only one going on a health kick
    +1 on the nutribullet. I'm loving it.

    So much easier than a juicer.

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    Just read that the sweet potato is packed with a lot of goodies so it will make it into the juicer soon.

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    Day 3

    Just to clarify: I LOVE red meat, don't drive a hybrid and love the smell of race gas and double IPAs

    I'm on day 3, hopefully I'll see the "break through" shortly. This am, I went for my first ride (El Sereno semi-daily trainer) whilst on the program. I was super sensitive of my energy level after 2 day fast-was about average, though my stomach felt better while riding.

    Other observations:
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    The average veggy juice looks like goat diarrhea, but actually tastes a tad better
    The first few days I was unusually *****y-least I have an excuse

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    Every year my goal was to not gain weight during the holidays. But I always did gain a couple. Then I'd work really hard to get rid of them in Jan-March. This year after watching forks over knives and hungry for change we decided to adopt the veggie life style. I've followed palieo and mostly non gluten for over 2 yrs. We purchased a Vitamix 5200 from Costco for $350. But after you use it a few times it justified the high price. I also downloaded a free app call Myfitnesspal to monitor daily calories. Sounds extreme, but it's very simple to use. Not only does it add up you calories minus your exercise, it gives a summary of your fats/carbs/protein for the day. With the new veggie diet I wanted to see how much protein I was getting. I was surprised to find protein in a lot of different things, including veggies. Quinoa is my new protein staple. In the month of December where I typically gain a couple of lbs, I shed 8 lbs from juicing. I did the Dr Oz 3 day detox Dr. Oz's 3-Day Detox Cleanse One-Sheet | The Dr. Oz Show This will give you everything you need, including the grocery list. I lost 5 lbs just during this process. The second day at dinner time was tough, but the third day was much better. I felt tons of focus and energy. I could have kept going. I'm digging the shakes and so far don't see any down side except for being associated with the hippy connotation. Happy blending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackho View Post
    Just to clarify: I LOVE red meat, don't drive a hybrid and love the smell of race gas and double IPAs

    I'm on day 3, hopefully I'll see the "break through" shortly. This am, I went for my first ride (El Sereno semi-daily trainer) whilst on the program. I was super sensitive of my energy level after 2 day fast-was about average, though my stomach felt better while riding.

    Other observations:
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    The average veggy juice looks like goat diarrhea, but actually tastes a tad better
    The first few days I was unusually *****y-least I have an excuse
    This is awesome you red neck! So, you should start feeling oddly clear headed soon and moments of trippy energy bursts.

    One note you may want to consider is that if your juice is diarrhea consistency, you may want to consider running your juice through a filter bag. You want to avoid pulp to a point because you have no fiber scrubbing the walls (notice the film on your teeth yet?). If too pulpy, you may have to work harder to pull nutrients and water into the system thus the 'unusually shitty' feeling. Sorry to say this again but the enema will make you feel much better if you are feeling crappy (ha) in the head. Clears that pulp lining the walls and your body doesn't lack in absorption processes. Keep it up!!! How many days are you shooting for?
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-bug View Post
    Just watched Hungry for change. I found it pretty disappointing.
    While I agree with everything they were saying, they had no facts or studies or proof to backup any claims or statements. It seemed to be a bunch of "experts" all agreeing with each other. I thought forks over knives was better in that they site specific studies, or were even the people conducting the studies.
    I eventually turned off hungry for change before finishing it. It felt more like a 90 minute infomercial, even incorporating a "here's Jane, unhealthy, no makeup, hair a mess, with a sad color filter on the camera", followed by "here's Jane after juicing one day. She wakes up to a new life, beautiful hair, perfect makeup, and a happy color filter on the camera".
    Forks Over Knives presents itself as scientific but there's a lot of cherry picking of data going on there in pursuit of an agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy f View Post
    Forks Over Knives presents itself as scientific but there's a lot of cherry picking of data going on there in pursuit of an agenda.

    “Forks Over Knives”: Is the Science Legit? (A Review and Critique) « Raw Food SOS
    Not sure if I going to bother after reading this in his intro.

    In case you aren’t yet convinced that I’ve made it my life’s mission to critique everything related to T. Colin Campbell, this should seal the deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acer66 View Post
    Not sure if I going to bother after reading this in his intro.
    There are plenty of other critiques out there. This one just happens to be very well documented despite the author's motivations.
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    There is always gonna be naysayers (especially those funded by deep pocketed interest groups on the other side - not saying this guy was but ya never know).

    I can only speak for personal experience which seems to be reiterated by others in this thread. Moving towards this diet just works. Can't argue with my highly reduced blood pressure, my 15 lbs weight loss some 30 days after the diet ended, general feeling of energy throughout the day, and this odd six pack under my, much smaller version of, man boobs.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    There is always gonna be naysayers (especially those funded by deep pocketed interest groups on the other side - not saying this guy was but ya never know).

    I can only speak for personal experience which seems to be reiterated by others in this thread. Moving towards this diet just works. Can't argue with my highly reduced blood pressure, my 15 lbs weight loss some 30 days after the diet ended, general feeling of energy throughout the day, and this odd six pack under my, much smaller version of, man boobs.
    My favorite juice fasts consist of celery, cucmbers, strawberries, carrots, romaine lettuce, and just about any other veggies/fruits I can juice. I did my first juice fast in late 2009 and lost 25 lbs in 30 days. Now I am a big guy to begin with, I needed to be as work made me that way. Then I changed jobs (chasing money instead of dreams) and now I am training to re-enter my previous career...I did sporadic juice fasts all of 2010, and felt fantastic. In 2011 I gained 10 lbs, and couldn't really juice fast due to work and other stuff. In 2012, I started again mid year and have lost that 10 lbs and am going for an all time loss of 25 more....that will keep me right at perfect.

    I am currently on a month long fast which started on 1-1-13 with the first 3 days slowly weening (salads and light fiber) towards a complete juice fast which will last till months-end.

    I have had naysayers saying I need to eat complex carbs and stop juice fasting in order to maintain my health and ride. This one bozo would send me bullcrap photos and articles from unknown sources and tell me that this was the proof. That it is all snakeoil...smoke and mirrors...TBH, I think the guy fried his brain out smoking to much sensi...

    The truth is, you have to do what feels right for you. If someone does not like the way you want to live, especially if it is healthy...ask them to start paying your bills and you'll then consider living according to them. Otherwise screw them.

    I hope that more mountain bikers consider implementing this into their fitness goals!

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy f View Post
    There are plenty of other critiques out there. This one just happens to be very well documented despite the author's motivations.
    Yah, there's a ton of miracle diets out there. It seems all have some validity - but most of them also espouse questionable science. And many of them really push their agenda like so many religious fanatics.

    I'm sort of over it. There's a lot of good things in veggies, fruits, naturals meats, dairy and staying away from processed crap.

    if you really wanna keep it simple - just dont eat anything that has any ingredients list on it. Buy whole foods, eat whole foods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles View Post
    Yah, there's a ton of miracle diets out there. It seems all have some validity - but most of them also espouse questionable science. And many of them really push their agenda like so many religious fanatics.

    I'm sort of over it. There's a lot of good things in veggies, fruits, naturals meats, dairy and staying away from processed crap.

    if you really wanna keep it simple - just dont eat anything that has any ingredients list on it. Buy whole foods, eat whole foods.
    Wow. Iheart and I agree on something.

    So I'm on about day five of juicing in the morning. I'm not going on a fast or anything but just starting the day off with juice (some combo of celery, carrot, kale, beet, apple and orange) and maybe a piece of toast with peanut butter. So far, I like the results. Maybe it's a placebo but the energy boost feels real. I didn't intend to stop drinking coffee but I haven't needed/wanted it. I don't really feel like I want or need to "diet" as I'm 6'2"-180 but the increased energy and sharpness has been really nice. We'll see where it goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Hungus View Post
    Wow. Iheart and I agree on something.

    So I'm on about day five of juicing in the morning. I'm not going on a fast or anything but just starting the day off with juice (some combo of celery, carrot, kale, beet, apple and orange) and maybe a piece of toast with peanut butter. So far, I like the results. Maybe it's a placebo but the energy boost feels real. I didn't intend to stop drinking coffee but I haven't needed/wanted it. I don't really feel like I want or need to "diet" as I'm 6'2"-180 but the increased energy and sharpness has been really nice. We'll see where it goes.
    My chiropractor got me started doing smoothies. More as a meal replacement, than anything - but I do add vegitable based protein (meat doesnt do well in blenders, and i try to limit soy intake) and add some antioxidants and omega 3's. I also limit the sugar - and just mix with water.

    But I dont consider this a diet - just something I can make quickly that is healthier than an egg mcmuffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles View Post
    My chiropractor got me started doing smoothies. More as a meal replacement, than anything - but I do add vegitable based protein (meat doesnt do well in blenders, and i try to limit soy intake) and add some antioxidants and omega 3's. I also limit the sugar - and just mix with water.

    But I dont consider this a diet - just something I can make quickly that is healthier than an egg mcmuffin.

    Quick Healthy Smoothie Recipe with Dr. Bruce Presnick - YouTube
    I do a morning smoothie too. Pineapple, blueberries, a scoop of whey protein, a scoop of Green Vibrance (powdered greens + pre- and probiotics + some other stuff), a tablespoon of ground flax seeds, and almond milk. I change around the fruit for variety but always come back to pineapple and those little frozen wild blueberries from Trader Joe's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartbicycles View Post
    Yah, there's a ton of miracle diets out there. It seems all have some validity - but most of them also espouse questionable science. And many of them really push their agenda like so many religious fanatics.

    I'm sort of over it. There's a lot of good things in veggies, fruits, naturals meats, dairy and staying away from processed crap.

    if you really wanna keep it simple - just dont eat anything that has any ingredients list on it. Buy whole foods, eat whole foods.
    Pretty much sums it up for me.

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    too much to read ...BUT I GET MY VITAMIX TOMORROW !!!!!!
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    Tell us how beer in the Vitamix changes the flavor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumblingcrustacean View Post
    Tell us how beer in the Vitamix changes the flavor...
    Funny you should mention that. Earlier this evening I made some blender sludge (using my Cuisinart SmartPower Duet™ since we don’t have a proper juicer yet) for my family and I. Well, to get the scrapins’ out of the glass, I douched it out with some Lagunitas Cappuccino Stout that I was drinking along side the sludgy treat. Tasted sorta strange, but nonetheless, no plant fiber was wasted.
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    Anyone use wakame or hijiki in their mixture? Stuff is higher in vitamins in minerals gram per gram than any land-based vegetable or fruit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    Anyone use wakame or hijiki in their mixture? Stuff is higher in vitamins in minerals gram per gram than any land-based vegetable or fruit.
    I'm pretty sure a healthy mix of ginger, lemon, and hot peppers will mask any weird flavors the wakame/hijiki might bring.

    If concerned still, add beer. (This crowd continues to scare me ... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumblingcrustacean View Post
    I'm pretty sure a healthy mix of ginger, lemon, and hot peppers will mask any weird flavors the wakame/hijiki might bring.

    If concerned still, add beer. (This crowd continues to scare me ... )
    I’ve made beer milkshakes before (heavy coffee stout or porter + vanilla ice cream = ). Pretty tasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    I’ve made beer milkshakes before (heavy coffee stout or porter + vanilla ice cream = ). Pretty tasty.
    This is a diet thread for ****s sake...have some compassion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    This is a diet thread for ****s sake...have some compassion.
    Sorry, I keep on forgetting that I have a metabolism rate of a 14 year old boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squashyo View Post
    This is a diet thread for ****s sake...have some compassion.
    but this also the Norcal forum...take it easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky View Post
    but this also the Norcal forum...take it easy
    This mornings smoothy - pea protein, organic plain yogurt, banana's, baby food.

    Well the baby food was just pureed mango's. But it still counts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowjnky View Post
    but this also the Norcal forum...take it easy
    touche!
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    This weekend we will do the Hungry for change three day detox program.
    I tried the three stage detox from Dr. Schulze once but I bailed during the first stage
    because I basiclly moved into the bathroom, I hope this one will be a little less moving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acer66 View Post
    This weekend we will do the Hungry for change three day detox program.
    I tried the three stage detox from Dr. Schulze once but I bailed during the first stage
    because I basiclly moved into the bathroom, I hope this one will be a little less moving.
    Very cool! The only thing I don't understand about a three day fast is that that is the hardest part...after three days, it is quite easy to keep going...for weeks actually. The three day will certainly help purge the system but don't shut the door on a longer fast...maybe down the road. Good luck with the 3 day and let us know how it goes!
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    so you kids have a bunch of helpful recipe do-s do you have any recipe don't-s? last thing i think one would want is green vomit. ew.

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    I have one. Raw Chard. Loaded with nutrients but makes a lot of people sick when eaten raw. I got a scratchy throat every time I was using and my bro-in-law threw up when he tried juicing it. I'd stay away from chard. Also, bananas don't juice.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    shake of the day (made in the Vitamix instead of the juicer) - chocolate whey protein, full fat coconut milk, almond butter, dates....delicious and tons of Calories

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    OK finally started the juice/beer diet.

    got my late Xmas present, Vitamix.

    Time to experiment.
    First try:
    Kale
    Beet
    Spinach
    Carrot
    Celery
    Apple

    Not bad but I can do better; filling though.
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    Lunch:
    two leafs of kale, handful of spinach, handful of grapes, half cucumber, quarter apple and some lime juice. Way better
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    My wife just started her first 5 day fast today. She did a 3 day prep of raw veggies. I have never seen her with so much energy...I am in trouble.

    My breakfast: carrots, celery, arugula, cucumber, 3 cloves of garlic, snap peas, raspberries, and one whole orange (with skin). delightful! Wish I could ride today...Stevens Creek run tomorrow.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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