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    Trail Conditions Report - Week of Jan. 14

    Sixty degrees is going to feel like seventy. Hoo-rah!

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    looks like a busy weekend coming up, might need to get out early to beat the crowds.

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    Today at oat hill was icy Trail Conditions Report - Week of Jan. 14-imageuploadedbytapatalk1358218875.203172.jpg

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    It would appear as though this week’s forecast is b¡tchin’ with a heapin’ helpin’ of awesome. I think I’ll go for a ride somewhere tomorrow.
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    Skeggs was very fine midday on Saturday and Tamarancho was perfectly acceptable for two full loops today with it being only a bit mucky at the start of Wagon Wheel after Serpentine and the later coming up Broken Dam, but A-ok, much warmer this afternoon too.

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    Rockville was rockin' on Saturday. Hoping to hit Skeggs this weekend.

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    Resist the temptation to check out the newly reopened Tractor at Demo. Logging road, nasty little water bars, mud bogs, etc - no fun down or up. Braille is in great shape except for the big tree down near the bottom.

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    Should have dried out by...

    ...now but some trails at Coe are being kept muddy due to the freezing conditions:
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    Auburn, Annadel or Demo conditions?

    Im looking to do a 20+ mile wednesday ride at 1 of the 3 places tomorrow. I just can't decide which one. Any word on conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuenstock View Post
    Auburn, Annadel or Demo conditions?

    Im looking to do a 20+ mile wednesday ride at 1 of the 3 places tomorrow. I just can't decide which one. Any word on conditions.
    annadel had a few muddy spots this weekend, but not bad over all. i went up canyon, up marsh to buick meadow, then down south burma and back down canyon.

    99% of south burma was perfect, just the last 100' or so that was super muddy, and rutted. not sure if its a drainage design issue, or if its the soil type.
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    Cold and Frozen! At lease fairly dry though....

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    Waterdog was good on Friday except for a few peanut-buttery (but rideable spots) on the outer loop (John Brooks ->Rambler > Finch > Upper Creek > Lower Elevator > Chapparal > John Brooks > Berry > Lake road. With dry conditions this week, it should be primo.

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    Just finished riding Waterdog. It was good then it sucked. Lake Loop has a mud bog, Finch Trail and Chaparral are pretty soft in spots.

    It's classic Waterdog as once it gets wet, it takes so long to dry off as many areas get so cold and never see the sun.

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    is demo going to be ok by sunday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rox View Post
    is demo going to be ok by sunday?
    Why yes! What about our putbol party though?

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    but sunday is my only free day to ride </whine>

    long early ride at waterdog?

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    Why yes! What about our putbol party though?

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    Skyline NAPA. Not so great 1-17-2013

    So I expected Skyline to be very dry as we have only had one rain day in the last 2 weeks. Unfortunately, that place is so North facing that it just will not dry. The trails are getting pounded by bikes, and the 16 inch single track is 3 feet wide as people try to bypass the muddy sections. Kind of sad looking, and I hope the grass grows back on the edges. Some of the S turns are being straightlined too, and that is just wrong. Trail Abusers! Sorry Napa locals, I probably will stop riding until spring up there.

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    Demo/SDF (mostly) perfect 01-18-2013

    Rode Demo today, Buzzards-Cossacks-Ridge-Sawpit. Other than mud in the usual spots on Cossacks, conditions were spectacular (and real). No mud, no moisture on the wood, no dust. Perfect!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikesroll View Post
    Rode Demo today, Buzzards-Cossacks-Ridge-Sawpit. Other than mud in the usual spots on Cossacks, conditions were spectacular (and real). No mud, no moisture on the wood, no dust. Perfect!
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    Anybody ridden Skeggs lately? It's been a while for but don't want to return yet if it's gonna cause damage.

    Thanks!

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    Skeggs was great last Saturday, will be better now...

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    Gap was good (and finally open) early yesterday morning. Some frozen mud on Peters Creek... But not too bad.

    Skeggs was amazing this afternoon... Except for Mid Pen. No other cars out there with bike racks this afternoon. I didn't see anyone else out on the trails the entire time I was there... except for 1 ranger hanging out with his radar gun on the lead up to Blue Blossom waiting to pull me over. Weak sauce. Dirt was great though. Still a huge tree down on BB. The tree on Methuselah got cleared out though.

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    waterdog is muddy

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    Skeggs was good yesterday. THe only mud I encountered was on Fir (and it's a fire road so no big deal).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rox View Post
    waterdog is muddy
    Frickn Waterdog. It will be the last to dry. The reason is it does not get direct sun at all. In the last couple of weeks, everything was frozen. So now that the ice has melted, the water is just mixing it up with the saturated soil.

    It is rideable if you don't go to Lake Loop. But really every other trail in the Bay Area will be in better shape.

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    Heading out to Skeggs in about an hour. Looking forward to it.

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    just want to chime in.....
    rode Nisene last night.....
    not cold......
    tried and tried but couldn't break my tires loose!!!!

    ran into a husband/wife from Hood River who shuttled up and did a loop in Demo and came down my side and they were grinning "ear to ear".

    they just got in before dark though.

    Have fun out there today!

    edit: forgot to mention, it was 72 degrees when I started my ride yesterday.
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    Rancho Canada del Oro was perfect this morning. Maybe 15 yards were slightly muddy all told.

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    Rode most of Auburn on Thursday. The lower half of FHDL (first half going ccw) was pretty messy...so much so that I ended up avoiding it. Culvert was also a mess, but Stage, Quarry and Connector were fine.
    Just returned from a hike today and it seems many areas have firmed up nicely. Might still want to avoid the single-track section that leads to the Foresthill road crossing at the peak of the trail as it is likely still a mess. It is also tough enough taking the steep gravel road climb out of there to hit Foresthill road, so no effort is lost.
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    Skeggs was awesome this morning with just a few soft spots in the usual places. I'm seriously out of shape--Skegg is tough, but today seemed like the hardest 16 miles I've ever done.

    - A couple trees down on Blue Blossom. One small and another huge one near the climb to the Springboard intersection. You can crawl under it.

    - A massive tree(s) down on ECdM between the creek and North Leaf. You can get through.

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    STCP was great with the exception of some unfortunately placed Meadow Muffins... lots of hikers out for the day and I probably saw a dozen riders.

    Saw a ton of Sheriffs out there. Orange vests and carrying some sort of tracking device.

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    demo sawpit, braille and coral are really dry, climbed tractor and had some mud bogs, that hurts more then sulfer...

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    Peters creek was a mudfest at the bottom, great tacky dirt at both ends and almost sandy at the top on the fire road

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    I rode Tamarancho today; good conditions...a little wet/muddy in a few spots that don't get any sun. Not very crowded, sunny and mid 60's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjhiker View Post
    STCP was great with the exception of some unfortunately placed Meadow Muffins... lots of hikers out for the day and I probably saw a dozen riders.

    Saw a ton of Sheriffs out there. Orange vests and carrying some sort of tracking device.
    They were doing some SAR drills for downed aircraft. At least thats what I overheard when I stopped for a water refill.

    everything was in pretty good shape in STCP. RR was kinda wet at the bottom where it was facing north, same with some parts on Ohlone.

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    Skeggs was 95% dry. But lots of downed trees.

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    On the southern edge of Northern Ca. the Big Sandy LC Trails (Fresno and Madera Counties) are great and there's no ranger cops with radar guns anywhere to be seen!

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    Jackson Demonstration State Forest

    Great conditions and a lot of the downed trees have already been cleared by MCC.

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    Rode up the Stanford side of Mission Peak (dry all the way) and along the ridge and down to Ed Levin Park today. In the shaded spots along the ridge, there are a few muddy spots and even some small patches of snow. Didn't bring the camera since it was going to be pretty hazy, but would have been a good picture of the snow up there. The descent from Monument peak was great at the top, almost lost the trail one time as everything was covered in new green grass. Followed the road on the GPS screen until I found it again. But once you hit about 1500', the dirt gets wetter and softer and is totally chewed by by the cattle. Finally at about 1000' it dried out and is better riding. After cresting the ridge, saw almost nobody after dodging hikers all the way to the top:
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    Back side of RR at STCP is still a little slick and soft. Not terrible though.
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    Got sucked into an "easy" ride today with the wife. Hit up Wilder. Did Wilder Ridge, Enchanted, and Baldwin before hitting up the Ohlone Trail to head back to town. For a day like today, the "north end" of Wilder + the Ohlone Bluff Trail really do show off the beauty of this area. I was nagged with "why didn't we bring picnic items".

    Watching 8-10 ft surf at both four mile and three mile beaches was pretty fun.

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    Great weekend of riding. Rode Skeggs early Saturday conditions were primo. Rode Saratoga gap early Sunday, petes creek trail was open and in good shape. I rode out to the tree farm and back and there were some wet slick conditions, but not too bad. Trails were in good shape for this time of year after the heavy rains and cold conditions.

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    demo is epic

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    Pleasanton bike park was nice and dry with some re-worked jumps. Good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes View Post
    Arastradero is still slick in some spots, either due to bad drainage or being too cold and in the shade. Everything is open but definitely watch out for the slick spots that can surprise you.
    Is it possible to ride Arastradero without getting the bike caked in mud? I was thinking of riding there tomorrow, but don't want to ride for an hour if I need to clean my bike for an hour after.

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    how is Fremont Older right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitnessgeek View Post
    how is Fremont Older right now?
    Hardpacked like cement!

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    Anyone ride Waterdog over the weekend? Thinking about going out there this afternoon. thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by rox View Post
    demo is epic
    This! Never had so much fun on sawpit, traction is unreal. It's play hookie from work good.

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    three of us rippin' some single track last night....
    I saw clouds of DUST !!!
    looks like that will be changing later this afternoon!

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    Does anyone know how Wilder/UCSC will be this weekend? Haven't been there in awhile, so I'm not sure if the rain last night will make it super muddy.

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    light rain

    Quote Originally Posted by rex_racer View Post
    Does anyone know how Wilder/UCSC will be this weekend? Haven't been there in awhile, so I'm not sure if the rain last night will make it super muddy.
    We've been getting a fairly consistent light rain this morning.

    Last weekend there were still some lingering muddy spots in UCSC/Wilder (those places that take awhile to dry out). I suspect those places will be in the same condition this weekend that they were last.

    That said, the bulk of the other trails should be in pretty good shape.

    General rule, this time of year, if it doesn't get a lot of sun or is in a seep zone, it stays muddy for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumblingcrustacean View Post
    We've been getting a fairly consistent light rain this morning.

    Last weekend there were still some lingering muddy spots in UCSC/Wilder (those places that take awhile to dry out). I suspect those places will be in the same condition this weekend that they were last.

    That said, the bulk of the other trails should be in pretty good shape.

    General rule, this time of year, if it doesn't get a lot of sun or is in a seep zone, it stays muddy for awhile.
    Is that going to be generally the same for Demo? I was thinking about going this weekend but don't want to if its going to be muddy with the rain we just got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quizinavenger View Post
    Is that going to be generally the same for Demo? I was thinking about going this weekend but don't want to if its going to be muddy with the rain we just got.

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    The rainfall total we got was about .08 inch everywhere. On the peaks, it was about .15 inch. Given it really hasn't rained at all in January, that rainfall is nothing.
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    By tomorrow and the weekend, everything will be perfect, or better than it was last weekend.

    Waterdog will still be sticky though as that has other issues. UCSC is an illegal area so let's not talk about conditions there.

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    Awesome thanks Francois. Demo it is this weekend.

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    Still raining a good amount, jury is still out on how much Demo and other spots will get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by locoyokel View Post
    Still raining a good amount, jury is still out on how much Demo and other spots will get.
    Ahh yes. I'm in Redwood City with zero rain all day. But south bay is a different story.

    Need to check that rain guage link tomorrow.

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    It's been raining like this in Los Gatos since noon!



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    just got home and checked my gauge here in Aptos and I got just under a tenth of an inch.
    Should be good riding Friday all around!
    These showers should be perfect cause it was just starting to dry out to the point where dust clouds were beginning to appear!

    I'm going to ride the westside (S.C.) tomorrow afternoon.

    Think I'll choose the SS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    The rainfall total we got was about .08 inch everywhere. On the peaks, it was about .15 inch. Given it really hasn't rained at all in January, that rainfall is nothing.

    By tomorrow and the weekend, everything will be perfect, or better than it was last weekend.

    Waterdog will still be sticky though as that has other issues. UCSC is an illegal area so let's not talk about conditions there.

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    Maybe I'm getting my park names mixed up. Is UCSC different from Pogonip? I was under the impression that Pogonip is bike legal.

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    Pogonip: legal

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    I was disappointed that it rain all day today in milpitas but its seems like Demo should be okay tomorrow morning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fujiblue1 View Post
    I was disappointed that it rain all day today in milpitas but its seems like Demo should be okay tomorrow morning?
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    Looks like half an inch now.

    It'll be wet. It'll probably be rideable but the smart money will wait til the afternoon and allow it to air out a bit. Weekend will be way better.

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    Stcp?

    If anyone gets a chance to ride Santa Teresa Friday AM/mid-day, give us a heads-up!
    Prime conds or got a bit too wet?

    Some may want to partake in a Friday mid- afternoon ride and it's hard to guess whether the ~half-inch that hit elsewhere around SJ hit STCP too(?), and if it did whether it over-taxed the trails a bit??

    (Trail hotline still has the Monday "all clear" recording as of just now.)

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    thanks fc! Not sure if time will allow me to ride later in the afternoon. If not Demo, what's an alternate trail like demo to ride between 9-1pm
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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    UCSC is an illegal area so let's not talk about conditions there.

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    Not to be disrespectful Francis - but coming from a guy who regularly posts pics and videos from the place, you are not being a good role model when it comes to practicing what you preach.

    There is no hiding the fact that a lot of people have been riding there lately. I'd rather have people come here and read about potential hazards on said illegal trail(s) than come here and read about someone getting hurt because on them because they hit some trail debris or down tree for example..
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    Quote Originally Posted by primordial View Post
    If anyone gets a chance to ride Santa Teresa Friday AM/mid-day, give us a heads-up!
    Prime conds or got a bit too wet?

    Some may want to partake in a Friday mid- afternoon ride and it's hard to guess whether the ~half-inch that hit elsewhere around SJ hit STCP too(?), and if it did whether it over-taxed the trails a bit??

    (Trail hotline still has the Monday "all clear" recording as of just now.)
    It was pretty dry for the most part all week, prior to the rain on Thursday. With the amount of rain I got (I live < 1 mile from STCP) on Thursday morning and last night, I'd wait till Saturday morning if it doesn't rain today. The last time we got rain, the clay trail were a mess.

    Our local STCP lunchtime rider Dion, would probably have better information.

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    Anyone know how the Pleasanton BMX Park holds up after a bit of rain? Doing some work in the East Bay today and was planning to take the DJ w/ me to get in a session this afternoon.

    It does not look like the East Bay got too much rain on that map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone No Balone View Post
    just got home and checked my gauge here in Aptos and I got just under a tenth of an inch.
    Should be good riding Friday all around!
    These showers should be perfect cause it was just starting to dry out to the point where dust clouds were beginning to appear!

    I'm going to ride the westside (S.C.) tomorrow afternoon.

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    get some! i hit the fort up twice last weekend, there was actually mud in some spots. just gettin back into it a bit after takin that nasty fall over the break, been ridin to work though. probably hit up the westside/wilder tomorrow w/a buddy tomorrow. hit me up for some wed rides tone, daylight just keeps getting longer.

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    Tamarancho--- I've been waiting for 2 weeks, and now rain?

    I've been really excited to get back to my old stomping grounds and ride this weekend. Unfortunately, it looks like rain.

    Any idea about conditions for Saturday or Sunday morning?

    If the trails are too muddy, any alternatives?

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    Pleasanton BMX was a little too wet... Plus got done early, so headed to SC to see how the trails are.

    Just need to pick SS or squish.
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    Wildcat/Tilden conditions

    I haven't been out there in a few months. Is it a muddy mess? Especially on Wildcat Creek Trail. Thinking of a very quick spin this afternoon.

    Any input is much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddprocter View Post
    Pogonip: legal
    ...to hike.

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    If anyone gets to Demo this afternoon, give us a report. The Google maps precip map for the past 48 hr says anywhere from 0.04 to 0.39 inches for the nearby gauging stations....0.08 for the closest station.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Hungus View Post
    ...to hike.
    Well some of it anyway. Much less than I thought now that I look at it.

    http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/Modul...ocumentid=4969

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    Annadel 1/25

    Wet but still a good ride. Rocks weren't as slimy as yesterday (or so I told myself). If I can say without preachiness: lots of tire tracks veering into the (former) vegetation to avoid puddles. The trail was actually pretty solid under the water. S. Burma sloppy at the bottom.
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    Norred Trail at STP has some sticky mud right now. Could not proceed past the trail by the canal on the Santa Teresa side. At least the soil isn't the clay kind that turns in to cement - I hope
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddprocter View Post
    Well some of it anyway. Much less than I thought now that I look at it.

    http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/Modul...ocumentid=4969
    Yes, Rincon/U-Conn is it and that's barely Pogonip. There will be another trail open to bikes in a few months though.

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    Just got back from Demo. Its definitely rideable. Couple wet spots more so down at the bottom.
    The 2nd pic is when I started to hit sawpit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moto'n'PushBiker View Post
    Norred Trail at STP has some sticky mud right now. Could not proceed past the trail by the canal on the Santa Teresa side. At least the soil isn't the clay kind that turns in to cement - I hope
    I’m shocked the trails are open after the most recent rains that passed through.
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    Just got back from Santa Cruz area... very ridable. Warm and mostly sunny. Some areas were full of perfect, loamy goodness... other shady spots were a little wet.

    Wet Pleasanton BMX park


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    Saw the Fox Raptor in SC... such a sweet truck!
    “Truck” and “sweet” in the same sentence. I guess refrigerators and orbital sanders are sort of sexy, too. I guess I haven’t quite reached my mid-life crisis stage yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squareback View Post
    I've been really excited to get back to my old stomping grounds and ride this weekend. Unfortunately, it looks like rain.

    Any idea about conditions for Saturday or Sunday morning?

    If the trails are too muddy, any alternatives?
    I rode there last Saturday; trails were in good shape, with a few wet/muddy spots. We didn't get tons of rain here but, it will make the spots that were wet just a little sloppier. I'm going to ride there tomorrow and you should too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    “Truck” and “sweet” in the same sentence. I guess refrigerators and orbital sanders are sort of sexy, too. I guess I haven’t quite reached my mid-life crisis stage yet.
    That's just too much! I'll bet you actually have a pretty nice 'fridge now don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nativeson View Post
    get some! i hit the fort up twice last weekend, there was actually mud in some spots. just gettin back into it a bit after takin that nasty fall over the break, been ridin to work though. probably hit up the westside/wilder tomorrow w/a buddy tomorrow. hit me up for some wed rides tone, daylight just keeps getting longer.
    a little spray up from the wheels but just sweet goodness I say! Great ride this afternoon!
    I little slippin' and slidin' in a few spots and a sprinkling of puddles but certainly good mild January riding.
    Not bad

    I'll text you on a weds ride.We'll get Jen out too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by squareback View Post
    I've been really excited to get back to my old stomping grounds and ride this weekend. Unfortunately, it looks like rain.

    Any idea about conditions for Saturday or Sunday morning?

    If the trails are too muddy, any alternatives?
    It's doable, rode it today, a little mucky, but not everywhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinnyl26 View Post
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