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    TBF II Race, Granite Bay

    I did my very 1st mtb race this morning at Granite Bay. It was fun, wet, windy and muddy! But mostly fun....

    I didn't know Granite Bay's sandy, decomposed granite soil, could get that muddy.

    Here's the MotionBased link ....http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/5037730

    I finally met and talked a bit with Zon after the race....Any other mtbr's join in on the fun today?
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    Nice job, was planning on doing the TBF race today, but I whimped out due to the weather. Your a real Man!
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    Looks like great fun! If you had to do it all again in same weather conditions, would you wear jacket and try to stay dry, or is that just a pointless no-win battle and just ride with a jersey? Looks like a jacket would just collect a ton of mud, as would glasses.

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    That was tough

    Tough race this morning. I was metal on metal on the brakes starting in the middle of the second lap, so no brakes for the last 10 miles. I would sit on the top tube and drag my feet or have to walk the more technical sections. i also somehow broke two spokes and had my rear wheel rubbing on the frame for some of it, about a lap and a half. It was tough!! As to the previous poster i wore a base layer, short sleeve jersey with arm warmers and a sleeveless vest. I ended up mid pack in the SS open class. Not my best showing. The shower at home felt awesome.

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    I enjoyed the race. I took third in the Novice 30-39. It was my second race.
    I was a muddy mess at the end. My jacket which I unzipped part way during the first lap will not zip up or down now. To much mud/sand in it.
    My rear brake pads are shot. My front brake pads will not last another ride. I just replaced the front pads and got one ride out of them.

    It is odd that I paid money to ride in conditions I wouldn't ride for free. But I loved it.

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    I raced open ss finished mod pack as well. Felt good first lap, attacked on the first climb to try to catch the leaders. I got them in sight, but couldn't reel them in. Next race i guess I will have to punch it right out of the gate.

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    Yup, I was out there - I was a spot or two behind rockymtnrider in Novice 30-39, my second race as well. Congrats on the podium! I was the guy on the black Stumpjumper that started right next to you - Kept you guys in sight for the first half of the first lap, then I didn't have anything for ya...

    Brakes are shot front and rear on my bike, but oh man, what a fun ride today. I took a digger in one of the soft corners about midway through the first lap, shin landed on a rock. Felt fine, so I finished the race. Got done and peeled off my pants to find a hole in my shin down to the bone. Spend 4 hours at Roseville Kaiser for a good cleaning (it had a bunch of muck in it) and some stitches...

    See you guys again in 3 weeks!

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    In a word,, sufferfest. But still enjoyable in a masochistic sort of way. Don't know how I did yet as I missed my start by 1.5 minutes, and still managed to gap a bunch of single speeders. Oh well.. lesson learned, don't stop to take a pee just before the start.

    Good meetin' ya Brainstump. Way to go on your first race!
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    i made it to one of these last year, but i haven't ridden at all near to what i would have needed to compete. that course was a bunch of fun, and it was muddy/gross last year, too!

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    The EC Racing Club had 8 riders and my son raced, too.

    The rain was nearly horizontal and riders coming up the backstretch into the wind moved like they were going uphill. Awesome performance by everyone.
    I ran into Rockymountain Rider who really laid it down. I was impressed with how he came to race and he got a very nice result.
    The race for my team riders was just a tune-up and rust-shaker and they all did well. I didn't even see their results but debriefed them for attitudes on bike performance and their general feeling. Underlayers, jersey, and jacket, tights/knickers were standard with my crew and everyone was comfortable. Brakes were toast and chainsuck was noted. One cramp. I have to say I am very proud of how well our racers hold up in public races.
    This was the first race for my wife, though I have coached for 6 years and 50 races, our son Miguel was racing and that is a very different story. Miguel (in red) took his category. He had no brakes on that modest downhill and had to drag his feet. He had a great first race .I have to go and buy new brake pads tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bstyle74
    If you had to do it all again in same weather conditions, would you wear jacket and try to stay dry, or is that just a pointless no-win battle and just ride with a jersey? Looks like a jacket would just collect a ton of mud, as would glasses.
    My original thought was I would wear my “rain suit” just for the warm up. But, by the time I got back from taking a pee, my group was already lined up and ready to start. I ended up wearing a short sleeve base layer, with a long sleeve jersey over that, and the rain jacket. On bottom I had shorts and leg warmers with rain pants over that. It turned out to be just right as far as keeping me warm. But it kinda felt like I was wearing a parachute heading into the wind. When I took all my riding clothes off after the race, I swear the plastic bag I placed them in must have weighed over 5 pounds! In retrospect, I think I would have been warm enough without the rain jacket and pants…. and much more aerodynamic!. I knew glasses would be pointless before I even started. You wouldn’t have been able to see the second you hit the first puddle.

    That wind was brutal. Even though I purposely drafted others riders in the exposed area heading south toward the start/finish area, I didn’t have anything left to try and ride through that 1st sand pit.

    My eyes are red and sore from all the mud and sand. I’m still trying to get the rest of the dirt out!!

    My 2 week old brake pads are definitely worn down, but still good for a while. Even with a new drive train, I still had a problem with chain suck on both laps after going through the big pond, just before you cross the paved road.

    See ya’ll on March 16th for TBF #3. Hopefully we will have a nice, clear, and warm day! With super fast tacky trails.

    It was nice to finally meet you Zon. When’s the next “Flea Ride?”

    ,,,,,I did manage 1st in the Old Guy/Novice 50-59 group! But I don’t think there were very many of us old geezers!

    Great effort everyone!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brainstump
    ...It was nice to finally meet you Zon. When’s the next “Flea ride?”...

    ,,,,,

    I was hoping to do one in March however, I am haveing a bit of difficulty finding a boat driver. Know anyone with a boat???
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    I did one of these races a couple years ago and after spending over 60.00 to replace the worn brake pads, outer and inner cables, chain not to mention the hours of cleaning grit and re-greasing the headset, bottom bracket, hubs and so on.

    I would not race there in the rain again. It was not worth it.

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    Pix of a Novice Start

    Since there were a couple of guys who posted here in this start I thought you'd like to see it. Everyone looks so clean!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zon
    I was hoping to do one in March however, I am haveing a bit of difficulty finding a boat driver. Know anyone with a boat???
    The boat driver (or his wife?) finally fired us???? Dang. Sorry. We'll just have to do BR - Peninsula and back, or some other variation.

    Congrats racers. I wasn't thinking of you while I was ripping over 2 feet of fresh pow today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkeley Mike
    Since there were a couple of guys who posted here in this start I thought you'd like to see it. Everyone looks so clean!
    Thanks! That's me, #95...

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    I thought so

    pm me your email address and I will send you the full file and you can print it up.

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    You guys are my heroes! I decided it was much too early in the season to suffer through another muddy disaster of a race, so I went snowboarding instead. It was so flippin' awesome at Sierra that I didn't even feel bad about kissing my pre reg fee goodbye. Best of all, my bike is still in perfect working condition all snuggly dry in the garage ready for the sun to return tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otbp_nocal
    The boat driver (or his wife?) finally fired us???? Dang. Sorry. We'll just have to do BR - Peninsula and back, or some other variation.

    Congrats racers. I wasn't thinking of you while I was ripping over 2 feet of fresh pow today

    I was thinking the same thing,, Dike 8 to Penisuala and back would be a nice 60 or so. Bonus,,, two chances to say hi to Michael at falcon Crest!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zon
    I was thinking the same thing,, Dike 8 to Penisuala and back would be a nice 60 or so. Bonus,,, two chances to say hi to Michael at falcon Crest!!
    We could do the Breakouts trifecta, Dyke 8 to Granite Bay to Hazel Loop and back to Dyke 8 (where we started the flea ride) I know it wouldn't be the flea ride but something different for kicks. Otbp and I have done that before, it's a good loop. Long but not too taxing. About 50ish miles??? I think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zon
    ,,, two chances to say hi to Michael at falcon Crest!!
    HA HA HA HA!!! Prick of the decade.

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    how about dyke 8 to salmon falls, climb to top of flagstaff, down to rattlesnake bar and return. that would be a killer.

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    Way to go everyone, hope to see you in March.

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    Race results are up...

    Race results and pictures are up: http://www.tbfracing.com/results/res...e_OVERALL.html

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    I was too chicken to go..........I didnt want to get my bike dirty

    Actually I was there at race I and trashed my rear drive train. It was fun, but I wasnt interested in doing it in the rain and wind. Just rain, I may have went for it.

    For all you that went and rode, you a better man than me, or uhhhh woman.
    Lead by my Lefty............... right down the trail, no brakes.

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    I wasnt too chicken to go, I was too smart. I learned my lesson last year, when the same or worse conditions cost me too much money in repairs

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    Just got done breaking down my bike, grand total is going to be about $150, after only two laps.

    I can't imagine trying to make my brakes work any longer than that, but I suppose the guys running sport or expert use the brakes less than us novices...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jschwart73
    Just got done breaking down my bike, grand total is going to be about $150, after only two laps.

    I can't imagine trying to make my brakes work any longer than that, but I suppose the guys running sport or expert use the brakes less than us novices...

    That sounds about right. My race cost me: repack headset (free, me) 4 new pads, 1 new rotor, and 1 new brake (piston went out too far with no pad to hold it, silly shimano couldnt be rebuilt)

    I was glad I used my injured ankle as a reason to not race this year

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    The other lesson learned is to coat any exposed metal with WD-40 to disperse water after I was done. Chain had a little rust on it (but the Boeshield T9 in the links kept it loose, it's just cosmetic and will come off in it's NAPTHA bath tonight anyway...) and the cassette has some rust on it. Bike is coming totally apart tonight, repack all the bearings and clean everything till it's grit free.

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    Smile Oh the mud!

    I had to do a "super" load of laundry when I got home from this race, after hosing everything off to get the biggest mud off my clothes. My wife made me clean up the washing machine after this load.
    I obsessed about what to wear and ended up with a base layer and a rain jacket on top - worked pretty good. I was a bit on the warm side during the first lap and on the cold side during the second. I also used a helmet cover. I bought it about 5 years ago and this was the first time I ever put it on. It looked really stupid but at the end of the race, my hair was the only part of me that was dry. My front fender kept most of the mud out of my face and off my glasses.
    I ride this trail every week and have for years - it has never been wetter or muddier. What a great day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jschwart73
    Yup, I was out there - I was a spot or two behind rockymtnrider in Novice 30-39, my second race as well. Congrats on the podium! I was the guy on the black Stumpjumper that started right next to you - Kept you guys in sight for the first half of the first lap, then I didn't have anything for ya...

    Brakes are shot front and rear on my bike, but oh man, what a fun ride today. I took a digger in one of the soft corners about midway through the first lap, shin landed on a rock. Felt fine, so I finished the race. Got done and peeled off my pants to find a hole in my shin down to the bone. Spend 4 hours at Roseville Kaiser for a good cleaning (it had a bunch of muck in it) and some stitches...

    See you guys again in 3 weeks!
    Good job on forth and after taking a bad fall. You were less then a minute behind. I have to watch out for you at the next race. Take care of the leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockymtnrider
    Good job on forth and after taking a bad fall. You were less then a minute behind. I have to watch out for you at the next race. Take care of the leg.
    Thanks dude!

    I actually had to go back to the doc today, most of my lower leg is infected. They put me on wicked anti-biotics, but at least they gave me some Vicodin too.

    See ya in a few weeks!

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    Nice job everyone! It was my first race of the season. I had to run the washer a second time to get all the dirt out of it from washing my race kit the first time through. Did anyone make it through the sand without having to get off the bike????

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    Looks like fun... I might have to join you guys next year. I know that there is one more in March, but I just finsihed building my bike. I need to get some good rides in before I test her limits

    I will be riding up in that area this week-end...

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    Sand not rideable

    Four years ago when I did my first TBF race, I tried to ride the sand and failed. I lost more time than if I just carried my bike across. I have never seen anyone ride the sand but I am sure someone has...
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