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    Tamarancho Flow Trail Party - if you live in the Bay Area you should show up

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    Will there be Rainbows? This add looks like you are saying there are going to be double rainbows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermachete View Post
    Werd. Zombie Treez Crew will be there.

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    I'll be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoolie View Post
    will there be rainbows? This add looks like you are saying there are going to be double rainbows.
    triple rainbow!

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    Bump.

    I'll be there! I'm going to be so disappointed if there aren't unicorns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermachete View Post
    Werd. Zombie Treez Crew will be there.

    Hopefully I will be there!

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    Ill be there

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    Never ridden Tamarancho before, but from what I've read, it sounds like a heap of fun. Do able on a rigid SS? And the forecast says rain tomorrow. Just saying.

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    These days, I only take single speed 29er to Tamarancho

    Many locals also use rigid, I use FOX Fork as my body is getting thrashed. If you are set up 29er, 32 x 20 is perfect. Figure 2 or 3 hours to do both loops at casual pace, meeting a few people, eat snack, session a few jumps(not many, but good ones) etc (Strava if you need to see fast times).

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    Is it on rain or shine?

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    Yeah its rain or shine. Forecast says it will be drying out early afternoon. The tunes might not be as loud since apparently the sound system can't get wet. Expecting a lot of people.

    Last work day since it was too wet we did some prepping work down the hill clearing the first layer of duff. So be prepared for not digging an awesome berm or roller. However the rain is not nearly as bad this time.

    Having experienced builders who know how to finish rollers berms and other features will be awesome. So if you are at all interested check it out. Hopefully we will get a for sure dry day and we can plan on dirt feature work. It may not be this Sunday but there will be many more this winter and spring.

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    Sounds Killer either way!
    Tamo has needed this for a looooooooooooooooong time.
    Great ride, but could step it up a bit IMHO.
    And this sounds like it's just the start!!
    I'll be there early like, 8-9 o clock, rain or shine, probably setting up the cable cam before we start diggggin.


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    With the stated policy at Tamarancho of "when it rains, let it drain," I was thinking of driving to center of camp and walking down to the work site - instead of riding. Dumb question: what is the best way to do that - I've never driven to the center of the camp? I.e., where exactly do I drive to and park? And from there, what trail/fire road is the quickest way to the B-17/Broken Dam intersection?

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    Driving and walking is pretty easy. The best way to do it is to drive to Whites Hill near Brown Bridge and hike up porcupine to the top of the B-17 ext and then hike down. If you drive into camp on Iron Springs Road please be respectful of the caretaker. He lives right at the first set of buildings you get to. Those buildings are the "ranger station". That is the best place to park but it is a long walk from the center of camp. The fastest way is whites hill

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    I also wanted to say we may run short of trail tools. I want everyone to have a good time and make it easy to ride in (carrying a trail tool in is the pits). However if you can bring a shovel or a rake (a Mcloud is best) please do. Since it will be muddy I don't know if we can do much finishing work: tamping and shaving berms and rollers. This is still a great chance to meet everyone and let us know if you have some feature building experience. We can really use your help and if the weather is good you can move plenty of dirt.

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    Oof. Work obligations are going to prevent me from making it out today. I thought I could sneak out in the morning to dig and then work in the afternoon, but alas, that was wishful thinking.

    Are there more work days scheduled yet?
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    Good times out there today!! This is going to be a SWEET trail

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    I just want to thank everyone who came out and helped. You guys are doing a fantastic thing for mountain biking. Hope to see you all out there again. I can't thank everyone enough. Cheers.

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    Went out there today, helped, had a great time, and let me tell you, an incredible thing is about to happen at Tamo.
    A great session area off of B-17 is developing and it will be the Shidizzle!
    Really good and Really pro!
    Awesome, long, Flow trail with sweet berms and jumps!!
    Jim, Kevin, and Dave are doing a incredible job.
    Go check it out.
    Help out when you can.
    Lots more to do before it's finished.
    It's hard work but the payoff will be something Marin doesn't have, but has needed for a Loooooong time.
    Thank you BSA Tamo!!
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    more pics!
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    Flow trail drainage?

    As an old Tamarancho dirt devil, I look forward to some new action in camp. But my experience with soft earth, and the effects of gravity & heavy rain makes me wonder about the sustainability of a grade like this. How will this weather the elements? Looks like it might become a rutted watercourse over time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairfaxian View Post
    As an old Tamarancho dirt devil, I look forward to some new action in camp. But my experience with soft earth, and the effects of gravity & heavy rain makes me wonder about the sustainability of a grade like this. How will this weather the elements? Looks like it might become a rutted watercourse over time.
    Fairfaxian. Please, do come up and check out the trail. I would love to speak with you and hear about the original trail projects. We have so much respect for the guys who started the Tamarancho MTB tradition.

    Your question is really great. It is a good one and it shows that mountain bikers really care about the environment! The trail does indeed cover some steep grades because we needed to respect a BSA camp site. The trail was routed around a camp site in the best way possible to keep the trail out of site of a camp. This presented a challenge and the trail is being built in a unique way that handles rain very well. Grade reversals are everywhere. These direct water flow so the trail is not harmed. It is hard to tell from the photo but there are two grade reversals visible. These drain the trail without waterbars or benching. In fact the trail shed water so well in the photo you selected that we were able to finish the berms and tamp the trail bed, further protecting it. The new trail is more of a drainage system that happens to be a trail. It is much different than any public trail in Marin. During the hike out we noticed a lot of problems with the traditionally designed open space trails that have sections without drainage 40 to 100 feet long. The flow trail has drainage every 10 - 20 feet. Keep in mind Jim has been closely supervising our work. Give us a chance and I think we will prove that mountain bike trails could be more sustainable than a hiking trail

    I think it would be great if you came out to say hello this week. If it isn't raining I will be there. I would love to give you a tour. This next weekend you will see a lot of motivated "new school" crew. These guys are super stoked on helping at Tamarancho and ensuring that your legacy lives on for another generation or two.

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    what are you guys thinking of naming the trail?

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    I didn't know what to expect when showing up to Tamo on Sunday. I gotta say, I was blown away by what is happening here. What Davey + crew have managed to get going is really special. If you haven't seen it- come see it for yourself. The new flow trail will undoubtedly set a new standard for what a legal trail can be. I'm penciling Saturday in as another dig day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by normarin View Post
    what are you guys thinking of naming the trail?
    My guess it would depend on what they find along the way, per the other surrounding trail names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haus Boss View Post
    I didn't know what to expect when showing up to Tamo on Sunday. I gotta say, I was blown away by what is happening here. What Davey + crew have managed to get going is really special. If you haven't seen it- come see it for yourself. The new flow trail will undoubtedly set a new standard for what a legal trail can be. I'm penciling Saturday in as another dig day.
    Totally agreed on the new standard. I'm just a (new) MTBR geek. This is Jim Jacobsons project. Without him it wouldn't be happening. I'm stoked you came out and I am looking forward to seeing you Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by normarin View Post
    what are you guys thinking of naming the trail?
    I dunno? If you help a lot maybe you can name it

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    We have work days everyday this week call or email for details 916 337 9939. If I wake up exhausted enough I take a day off and go ride.

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    ENDOR, or Forest Moon of Sandor!

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    Davey, I can make it Thursday early. Got to coach in the afternoon

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    This looks pretty awesome. Looks like I'll be making a trip to Fairfax when this is done.

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    "Flow Trail" or "Fred Trail"
    Now all it needs its some nice exposed roots, a bunch of piles of rocks, some off camber exposed sections, some chunk, and a dash of gnar. Does it have to be smooth to flow? Not really.

    In all seriousness tho, looks awesome. Good to see trails like this being built, in Marin of all places!

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Ironshirt View Post
    Davey, I can make it Thursday early. Got to coach in the afternoon
    I have work for you trail boss!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davey Simon View Post
    I dunno? If you help a lot maybe you can name it
    Howa bout the "Jim Jacobson is the man trail"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGoGordo View Post
    Howa bout the "Jim Jacobson is the man trail"?
    Now you got it!!!!

    I tried to PM you Gordo. Are you going to come out this week? We need your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGoGordo View Post
    Howa bout the "Jim Jacobson is the man trail"?

    While we are shouting out:

    Kevin Smallman has done more work on this project in 3 hours than I could have in 3 months:

    Video is from another project but Kevin has been running the ST240 and bringing in experienced, motivated and cool volunteers.

    Brian Popplewell is a Fairfax local and the reason this project is even happening. So if you see him at Iron Springs buy him a beer.

    Jason Van Horn has been a huge contributor and he is a great writer as well. This is my favorite piece of Jason's: The “Secret” Singletrack at Crockett Hills Regional Park SPOT ON. Should be required reading for land managers IMHO

    Dylan Renn is our DH expert and he has the most experience with building large features. He is keeping us XC guys in check. This summer when you are feeling some flow up at Tamarancho thank Dylan.

    Plus all of the volunteers!!!! Hope to see you all this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yody View Post
    "Flow Trail" or "Fred Trail"
    Now all it needs its some nice exposed roots, a bunch of piles of rocks, some off camber exposed sections, some chunk, and a dash of gnar. Does it have to be smooth to flow? Not really.

    In all seriousness tho, looks awesome. Good to see trails like this being built, in Marin of all places!
    I've got some rock for you to carry! Sound like fun?

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    ... and if we just ...

    Some of the work done on Sunday that leads into Renn's sweepers. Sorry for crappy phone photos...image 1 is the take off for the first step down...image 3 is the landing and berm after into the back to back 180 Sweepers(image 2).
    Special thanks to "TrailKing"...Davey Simon and TWBT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davey Simon View Post
    Now you got it!!!!

    I tried to PM you Gordo. Are you going to come out this week? We need your help!
    Ill be there friday
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    Im good for a couple hours Dave
    Im bringing another helper
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    I could throw down a couple hours on Friday. Will you guys be out there? What times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davey Simon View Post
    While we are shouting out:

    Kevin Smallman has done more work on this project in 3 hours than I could have in 3 months:

    Video is from another project but Kevin has been running the ST240 and bringing in experienced, motivated and cool volunteers.

    Brian Popplewell is a Fairfax local and the reason this project is even happening. So if you see him at Iron Springs buy him a beer.

    Jason Van Horn has been a huge contributor and he is a great writer as well. This is my favorite piece of Jason's: The “Secret” Singletrack at Crockett Hills Regional Park SPOT ON. Should be required reading for land managers IMHO

    Dylan Renn is our DH expert and he has the most experience with building large features. He is keeping us XC guys in check. This summer when you are feeling some flow up at Tamarancho thank Dylan.

    Plus all of the volunteers!!!! Hope to see you all this week.
    Davey - no props for Buddy?!? Really?!?

    Sorry I missed Sunday but I was feeling full of snot. I'll be there on Saturday before me and BP head to the NICA awards dinner. You guys are doing a great job out there and I'm thrilled to see both the trail and its crew coming together!
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    Found any arrowheads yet, that would be a cool name. Trail is looking great!

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    you should call it new-er paradigm

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    Quote Originally Posted by abcdefg View Post
    you should call it new-er paradigm
    It is! Still not sure what we will call it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splatworldwide View Post
    I could throw down a couple hours on Friday. Will you guys be out there? What times?
    10 to ? I usually bail around 3. It gets dark and cold super fast. There will be a few of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piranha426 View Post
    Davey - no props for Buddy?!? Really?!?

    Sorry I missed Sunday but I was feeling full of snot. I'll be there on Saturday before me and BP head to the NICA awards dinner. You guys are doing a great job out there and I'm thrilled to see both the trail and its crew coming together!
    Budddyyyyyyy! Super cool dog was running the first lines before any of us

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGoGordo View Post
    Ill be there friday
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    Im good for a couple hours Dave
    Im bringing another helper
    Cheers
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    Sweet thanks Gordo!

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    My son and I will be out helping Sunday.

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    Henry and Jim building a crib fence. Henry came out from Berkeley to build a trail, in Marin. If you see Henry on his red 29er say hi and buy him a beer.

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    Allen D sends it! Allen has spent a lot of time up at the project and is a big part of the inspiration to get started.

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    I took the day off today. Sorry if anyone came out. Tomorrow Saturday and Sunday will be big work days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davey Simon View Post
    I took the day off today. Sorry if anyone came out. Tomorrow Saturday and Sunday will be big work days
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    I'd like to come out on Saturday. Was going to try and ride early and get a few hours in late morning. Just show up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by etuck View Post
    I'd like to come out on Saturday. Was going to try and ride early and get a few hours in late morning. Just show up?
    Just show up

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    Im trying to make it out sunday. We should grab beers again.

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    This is really awesome, massive respect to everyone involved in this project!

    I'm in the middle of moving to Fairfax, hoping to be all moved by the 15th, then I will have time to definitely help in anyway I can, minimal trail building experience but will work hard and follow directions closely!

    So excited to be moving so close to this project, BIG UPS everyone!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrieRider View Post
    This is really awesome, massive respect to everyone involved in this project!

    I'm in the middle of moving to Fairfax, hoping to be all moved by the 15th, then I will have time to definitely help in anyway I can, minimal trail building experience but will work hard and follow directions closely!

    So excited to be moving so close to this project, BIG UPS everyone!!!
    Sounds like you will fit right in IrieRider

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    I just want to thank everyone who came out today. Jim Jacobson was there organizing, Kevin came out and built another section of super hard to build trail (I'd guess about a months worth of hand digging) he also brought out David and Matt (I think). Matt is from Santa Cruz and is writing a story about bike access in California, can't wait to read it. Henry came out again all the way from Berkeley still on the red 29er. GoGoGordo and Dan came out - it is always fun to see them. Tmax came out at dark o clock and fixed a section near the top so it will be even more fun. He brought his bike and got a test run. Allen D and Dan B were regulating the dirt. If I forgot anyone I'm SUPER sorry. Tomorrow and Sunday will be even bigger days. Please come and help.

    Again I will ask that everyone keeps it mellow and just walks the trail for now. We had some guest stars that are unknown ride the trail sometime late Wednesday or Thursday. If you come out and help you can get a hall pass on riding short sections. We need to see how it lines up sometimes. So if you are just dying to ride what little has been roughed in please come help. Mostly we just want to protect the super soft dirt while it is so fresh. Also we want to protect YOU. I am always leaving tools lying around in the trail that could really hurt you. Not on purpose at all but I am not thinking about riders just working for the moment, be careful.

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    More good times and progress today.
    Here's some more pix to keep everyone motivated.
    Thanks again Dave, Kevin Jim et al!!
    Lots to do this weekend so git out there and move some dirt.

    Tamo Flow Trail work 1-11-2013 - a set on Flickr
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    This trail is what I have been wanting in Marin since I put down the BMX bike and picked up the MTB. The last two days digging have been inspiring, and I think I'm going to have a hard time staying away from this place!

    -Dan B

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    http://www.facebook.com/TAMOFLOW

    Please join the page. I am a little too tired to thank everyone who came out this weekend just yet. You know who you are. All of you are key to the success of the project. This would not be happening if it were not for YOU!

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    Please post photos add, add comments and make suggestions here.

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    Check

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    out this trail Idea

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    That Davey will post, b/c i dont have enough posts yet

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    Tamarancho Flow Trail Party - if you live in the Bay Area you should show up-imageuploadedbytapatalk1358231803.579915.jpg

    Keep in mind this is only the top 1/3 and its just a proposal. But a rather good one.

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    Ummmm....yes please!

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    I cannot thank all of you enough. I will make the 3 hour drive to help at least once...........
    Master of Nothing, but dammit if I don't try..............

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