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    Tahoe Shuttle/Ride buddy: Rose to Van Sickle, Truckee Super D, etc

    Mr. Mud and I are planning to return to Tahoe next weekend (Aug 11) for some more fantastic riding.

    Wanted to do Rose to Van Sickle the first day.
    Q1. Is there any local who'd like to shuttle or/and ride with us? If shuttle only, we are happy to pay; if ride with us too, here is how I'd describe our riding -- not used to Tahoe granite, we may slow down a bit (and walk) at big rocks, but otherwise, we ride at a pace that falls between intermediate and advanced. And I normally try to be efficient and keep rolling. Our vehicle can take three bikes and riders (i.e. one more besides us).

    Q2. I'm aware of the even-day recommendation for the Mt. Rose TRT section, but I've also seen tracks that do not observe that, some of which by locals. After all, it's not enforced. I don't want to upset the majority (but ok if it's just a few), so let me ask, how bad is it if we start early and be done with it before people show up on that section of the trail? (Please PM me if you'd like to keep your advice offline.)

    Was thinking about doing Truckee Super D the next day before heading back to Bay Area.
    Q3. Again, anyone wants to ride (thus shuttle) with us? For that ride, we probably will not stop at all since it's pretty short (20mi).

    Anyway, just putting the questions out there. If the logistics turn out to be too complicated (I got a small brain), I may just start looking into commercial shuttles.
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    I'll send you a track that starts from Rose but bypass's the Voluntary closure section (don't worry is still really fun and unique) If you Start early (which knowing you is not gonna happen ) it's typically not an issue, otherwise expect a bunch of dirty looks and comments. Even though it's legal best to adhere to it, especially with the potential of Snow Peak being opened up with the same Odd/Even day thing going, just gives the haters more ammunition.
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    What he said....

    it is voluntary so you are not breaking any laws. starting early makes it a moot point. odd/even day trail use is a great idea when done fairly and enforced properly. not for all trails but for some of the ones that have really high horse, hike, bike usage. I would love to see it implememnted on sections of PCT and the WS from Foresthill to Auburn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudworm View Post

    Q2. I'm aware of the even-day recommendation for the Mt. Rose TRT section, but I've also seen tracks that do not observe that, some of which by locals. After all, it's not enforced. I don't want to upset the majority (but ok if it's just a few), so let me ask, how bad is it if we start early and be done with it before people show up on that section of the trail? (Please PM me if you'd like to keep your advice offline.)
    All local closures are voluntary unless you see a ranger Start early and you will be fine, local hikers are always nice when met with a smile
    Always respect rangers, they are doing their job-Everyone else has no authority, so get out of the way of the of the ATrain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    If you Start early (which knowing you is not gonna happen )
    Hmf, now I want to do it once just to prove to you that I'm fully capable of getting up early, esp. when people's lives are on the line, or, when some trail access is on the line in this case! As a matter of fact, I've started practicing, only hoping this weekend (tomorrow) will not over throw my effort made so far.

    But the other track looks good too. Oh... choices, choices.

    I don't worry about encounters with hikers really. Tahoe hikers are the cool kind. I always slow way down, greet cheerfully, apologize for the dust, compliment on their dogs, and wish them the best hike. By the time we part ways, they normally are just about to adopt me, or so I wishfully think.

    Anyway, we still have time. And most likely when the time comes, it'll be a last minute coin toss just like how I normally make any life altering decision. We might even try to take Friday off. Life is tough when there are so many possibilities and so much flexibility.
    Last edited by mudworm; 08-03-2012 at 02:55 PM.
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    Where in the bay area are you leaving from? I'm in SF.

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    not all of the hikers near tahoe mdws are the cool kind - there've been a few issues over the last couple years.
    imo one of the challenges is that most people don't realize that the even/odd closure is a request/advisory and not law, so it occurs as a breach on our part.
    & although I stick with even days per the request (and recommend that other riders do too), it would probably be very different to ride that stretch on a midweek even day in, say, october. august is pretty slammed throughout the week, and when it's warm people start out early.
    probably not what you wanted to hear, but my 2 cents.

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    I can never understand why the "is it OK to ride odd days" question still comes up. There are TWO days on every weekend (unless you hit 31st & 1st). As stated by another poster, it just makes us look bad. Why not just wait a day? There's plenty of non regulated riding around the lake, much of which is just as good at the ONE SECTION WHERE WE ARE ASKED TO MAKE A TINY CONCESSION. There are other trails currently off limits to bikes (some in Bay Area, Marin etc) that are being considered for odd/even bike access. If we show a bad example on a high profile trail like the TRT, why should we be granted a privilege in other areas? Don't think this won't get trotted out by our adversaries.

    I'm not a stickler for rules & regs, I just don't like providing easy fodder to our detractors. And isn't it better to show the land managers who work to create new trails & bike access that we're deserving of their efforts?
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    I ask because I care. Thanks everyone for sharing your candid view! TahoeBC has convinced me -- there is no way I can get up THAT early! A relief to everyone?

    If we end up riding alone, once we pop into town after the ride, we'll be calling a shuttle to get back up for our car. If anyone in the area (SLT on Saturday, Truckee on Sunday) don't mind earning a little cash and being treated a beer in town if you have time, please reply or PM me. I'll also offer to guide you on a quality ride in the Bay Area should you come to visit.

    If anyone is interested in joining us for either ride (see title), we can meet at either end. Ideally, there should be one vehicle that can take all the rider-bikes, but it can still work out if that's not the case since in the end, it's really the driver that needs a ride to fetch the car at the start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairfaxian View Post
    I can never understand why the "is it OK to ride odd days" question still comes up. There are TWO days on every weekend (unless you hit 31st & 1st). As stated by another poster, it just makes us look bad. Why not just wait a day? There's plenty of non regulated riding around the lake, much of which is just as good at the ONE SECTION WHERE WE ARE ASKED TO MAKE A TINY CONCESSION. There are other trails currently off limits to bikes (some in Bay Area, Marin etc) that are being considered for odd/even bike access. If we show a bad example on a high profile trail like the TRT, why should we be granted a privilege in other areas? Don't think this won't get trotted out by our adversaries.

    I'm not a stickler for rules & regs, I just don't like providing easy fodder to our detractors. And isn't it better to show the land managers who work to create new trails & bike access that we're deserving of their efforts?
    If I'm lucky I'll be able to fit that ride in once a year into my schedule. I ride erly and curtiousily. If it happens to fall on a volunteer closure day, sorry, I'm riding it. I'm not one to ride over my head and come barreling into blind corners either so it's easy for me to slow dowadn have a chat as I pass other trail users.

    How any mountain bikers do you think blast pass other non bicycling users on the 'bike day's and scowl and be gruff to them since it' supposed to be a 'bike day'?
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    An unrelated (to the subject) question: does anyone know of a good place along Hwy 80 near Auburn for legal crash camping (i.e. not require prior reservation)? Primitive is fine since we are just passing through and will get breakfast in town (probably Truckee) next morning as long as there is no "brown bear" poking into our tent. Was thinking BLM land or first come first serve campgrounds although the latter might fill up on Friday nights. Will appreciate any local intel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudworm View Post
    If we end up riding alone, once we pop into town after the ride, we'll be calling a shuttle to get back up for our car.
    Generally shuttle company's are not like cabs, typically you need to arrange a shuttle a head of time and generally done at the beginning of the ride being taken to your start point. Always best to leave your car were you are going to end the ride, that way there are no timelines to keep & you can just load up and go when you finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    Generally shuttle company's are not like cabs, typically you need to arrange a shuttle a head of time and generally done at the beginning of the ride being taken to your start point.
    Ugh, all the logistics! After last time we rode with you, Mr. Mud said to me I should shuttle him. Wonder where that idea came from?

    Too bad he doesn't have a sweetie to shuttle him and neither do I, but the good part is there are so many ride options out there and we are flexible. We'll make it work.
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    Mudworm -
    Back to the shuttling. For TAMBA events I have used Joe at Shuttle it before and he is fantastic and has the best rates around:
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    Q1 When are the "mountain bike only days" on any trail anywhere?
    Q2 Where are any trails closed to hikers or horses?
    Q3 We share trails why can't others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amydalayna View Post
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    Thanks Amy for the information!

    It's going to be hot in Tahoe this weekend, but I can't wait!

    [RANT]I remember hearing people say how lodging in Tahoe is cheap due to all the casinos. Well, anything but cheap! Even a run down motel is either fully booked or asking to see Benjamin Franklin plus change. Yikes! [/RANT]
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    remember hearing people say how lodging in Tahoe is cheap due to all the casinos. Well, anything but cheap
    First two weeks of August are Hot August Nights, the huge muscle car show. Last weekend focused in South Lake Tahoe, this weekend is Reno, but it seems to fill the motels in both towns.

    That said, if you do get rooms it is cool to see all the old cars driving around.

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