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    Sport legs - do they really work?

    As a bigger guy i can go on long rides but eventually it's my legs that tire out more so than anything.

    Does the product Sports Legs help during the ride or is it for recovery only?

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    they help keep me from turning into a small-wincing-ball-of-crampy-mess for loooong days in the saddle......

    so far nuthin' has really helped on the shorter hi-intensity XC rides.....i'll cramp anyway...ugh
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    Sport legs does work a little, during a ride and after. I used it to build up my quads when I started riding.

    Also drink some Muscle Milk, Available at Target, Wal-Mart, Safeway GNC, and some times Chevron or your local liquor store. Comes in powder or pre mix. Muscle milk will help burn fat, build muscles and give you stamina.

    I like muscle milk better. Drink it a 1/2 hour before you ride, I have had a couple of beginners ride with me and I give them muscle milk before the ride and they are amassed about how far they go.

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    Hammer Nutrition

    I started using their products last year after having paralyzing muscle cramps half way through the Lemurian race. After using a mix of the Endurolytes, Anti Fatigue caps and hammer gel I raced the 24HOA 4 man team and had no problems. We got 2nd in that race. Hammer Nutrition is a real cool company owned by doctors who ride. If I recommend you, you get %15 off of your first order. PM me if your interested.

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    Hydration always works for me, drink plenty the night before a ride, during and after. I do have some Hammer Endurolytes for tomorrow's ride.

    But CHUM swears by these for cramping.


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    Quote Originally Posted by baycat
    Hydration always works for me, drink plenty the night before a ride, during and after. I do have some Hammer Endurolytes for tomorrow's ride.

    But CHUM swears by these for cramping.


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    Tums, and Edurolytes.
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    Watch the Vitamin D in Sport Legs

    Sport Legs can OD you on Vitamin D if you take too much of Sport Legs. I would check dosages and be careful on that one. I use Heed, Endurolytes, and especially Salt Stick Caps (online orders only) The SaltStick caps were recommended by a sport nutrition specialist who trains enduro runners. They give you more sodium -which REALLY helps on long rides in hot weather.

    I do long XC rides and can cramp late in the day if I'm not careful. On Epics, I bring an extra dose of Heed for the water bottle refills, and take Salt stick caps to supplement. Stretch legs at every break, and massage calf & thigh muscles if you feel you're getting in the "cramp zone".

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    yeah, salt is good. I just lick my arms, recycling the minerals....
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    Sport Legs work for me if taken as suggested, before and during long rides. If not taken prior to cramping they don't seem to help me..... It's too late... I'm in trouble.

    Muscle Milk works as a post weight training drink to help build muscle and recover. Never tried it for cycling. Doesn't make sense to me. I am lactose sensitive so it would be percolating the entire ride. I always stay away from high protein bars and protein drinks when cycling.
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    Any protein drink thats easy to quickly absorb will help rebuild and build the muscles that were used during the workout. Since a race is a workout, I would assume the muscle milk just helps rebuild the legs muscles ... more than any other.

    I was thinking of brining some of those individual containers for post-ride swills. Not sure its of much use before a ride ... don't want to overdo it with protein digestion while you're trying to ride, now do you?

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    If your stomach can handle the high protein, then I'm sure it can do no harm. It just doesn't agree with me when I am pushing myself on a ride.

    It doesn't make sense for me to think that protein would help prevent cramping, but I could be wrong. Just my two cents.
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    Folk remedies for cramping from Health 911

    Mustard - For years coaches have given mustard to their athletes with leg cramps. Cramps are sometimes caused by a deficiency in acetylcholine, the neurotransmitter that stimulates your muscles to work. Mustard has acetic acid, which helps the body make more acetylcholine. Take a spoonful or two of mustard.

    I carry a couple packets of mustard packets - after cramping 30 minutes after the start of the Dville XC last year. Haven't had the opportunity to experiment yet.

    Pickle juice - As with mustard coaches have given pickle juice to their athletes with leg cramps. Cramps are sometimes caused by a deficiency in acetylcholine, the neurotransmitter that stimulates your muscles to work. Pickle juice has acetic acid, which helps the body make more acetylcholine. Take a few ounces of pickle juice.

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    Can I get an amen on the pickle juice!!! Stuffs a miracle drug.
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    I dont get cramps, I drink alot of water every day.
    Muscle milk will help your legs work harder and better. It is recomended to drink it 30 min before or after a work out and it countains no Dairy products.
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    I like SportLegs

    SportLegs definitely cuts down on the burn for me. I feel like I can push 1 to 2 gears harder when taking it vs. not. I'm curious about this Muscle Milk stuff, though. I'll have to try some...

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    I know we're off topic with this muscle milk stuff, but damn, look at all that protein. Maybe drink 1/4 of it about 30 min before workout, then the rest after.


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    Muscle milk is high in protien, but also notice, it is REALLY high in fat. There is NO reason for a protien supplement to be so high in fat. There is a lot of better protien supplements on the market that have little or no fat.

    For pre-ride, you can not beat Arnge Crush. I drink a small water bottle of it before every ride. The difference is HUGE! It is a L-Arginine based supplement that helps it dialate blood vessels. This helps boost blood flow to sore and cramping muscles. Unlike other similar products (like NOXplode), it has an eight hour time release, so it lasts all day.

    And I will second zon on the pickle juice. It is great for racing, if you can handle the dill!

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    last years cool race i was cramping bad after three laps I ate a cheese burger, a red bull, and some sun chips and powerd out two more laps(22 more miles) all the while snacking on the sunchips and red bulls. I cant wait to try the mustard and pickle juice thing. Licking the arms works great too.

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    After yesterday's ride

    I will have to say, yes they work
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    Quote Originally Posted by ridindog
    last years cool race i was cramping bad after three laps I ate a cheese burger, a red bull, and some sun chips and powerd out two more laps(22 more miles) all the while snacking on the sunchips and red bulls. I cant wait to try the mustard and pickle juice thing. Licking the arms works great too.
    I quit eating cheeseburgers in enduro rides after my first MI at 38 - got a genetic disadvantage and no matter what I have Athrosclerosis. L-Arginine helps with vascular dilation, which is good. Spasms are bad though, as is having your blood saturated with LDL, when the dilation wears off.

    Lucky guys who can process this stuff and have real athletic performance.... O- neg blood seems to do it pretty good AFAIK.

    I'd bet the chips are what did it.... carbs AND salt.
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    I had a Muscle Milk today after my china camp ride .. boy oh boy, those things (at 7-eleven you can get a small ready-to-drink bottle) taste disgusting. This one had 27g of protein and yes, I noticed the Saturated fat was actually way higher than the one listed above. I prefer whey protein blended with soymilk.

    I did three laps at china camp and had a bagel sandwich somewhere in between. I think the banana or something did not mix well with the Accelerade I was drinking ... you don't want to know the results of this experiment.

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    Sport legs did nothing for me, but I've also never had a problem with cramping. Guess I'm either
    1. genetically lucky or
    2. fortunate to never have had them.
    I'll go with the second, but the first option would be cool.

    I gave my Sport Legs to scheckler ages ago, looks like it paid off for him.

    I find peanut butter and jelly on Eggo waffles get me through my rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBikerDan
    I quit eating cheeseburgers in enduro rides after my first MI at 38 - got a genetic disadvantage and no matter what I have Athrosclerosis. L-Arginine helps with vascular dilation, which is good. Spasms are bad though, as is having your blood saturated with LDL, when the dilation wears off.

    Lucky guys who can process this stuff and have real athletic performance.... O- neg blood seems to do it pretty good AFAIK.

    I'd bet the chips are what did it.... carbs AND salt.
    whats an "MI" ?

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    Hammer nutrition really works?

    Just curious when people try to sell nutrition products. Not saying they don't work, just a little skeptical. Ever here of Advocare? I have used their meal replacement shakes and they were good but the company is the pyramid type. Some people go way overboard trying to sell you stuff and for some reason they think that they will become millionares. So my question about Hammer is what kind of company is it? Also, like dan51, i didn't notice a difference with sportlegs but then I don't cramp much. Maybe I don't ride hard enough.
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    I realize this thread is several months old, but thought I'd chime in for others who may read it. I am currently only riding road, but will do some MTB soon. Just got into bikes again after several decades off due to weight gain and other health problems. I walk daily about 2 hours and 8 miles, so my legs were pretty good for when I started riding, then they went dead and no matter what treatment I did they stayed dead. I got a free sample of Sportlegs and thought I'd give them a try. Now I'm very skeptical about ergogenic aids as most just drain your wallet, and while this is anecdotal evidence, I used the Sportlegs twice and noticed a huge improvement in my legs and was able to equal, and then surpass my longest ride (35 mi then 40 mi) while taking these pills. So it is worth a try at least to take some.

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    I recommend two shots of Yager and two beers, this will usually get you through the ride, but taking a 12 oz. "snack" for along the ride really pushes you through.

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    I have found that sport legs work.

    I've just also started taking more gel / electrolytes along in general, bananas before the ride, and extra hydration, as I have cramping issues.

    Why is it that nobody stretches before or after a ride? I'm always the only one.

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    Sportslegs works great for me too. I take it before the ride and during the ride only though, I dont do the post ride dose as it starts to get pricey. For me I can tell that my legs feel much better the next day and during the ride they dont get to the burning stage as fast. I drink a muscle milk after the ride to replenish the proteins, just started that recently so not sure yet how well it works. I felt a bugger difference with the sprotslegs than with the mucslemilk.
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    I find that they do nothing unless I'm keeping a REALLY fast pace (judge as you will for what you think my "really fast pace" is) for over 3 hours. The first set of pills doesn't seem to do much but the second dose on a 3-4 hour ride really kicks in well.

    SportLegs doesn't give you energy. But it totally keeps your legs from cramping.
    Meh.

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    I have used em consistently for a while and sometimes I think they help fight back fatigue a little bit but they do nothing for me in terms of cramping.

    I took them before downieville this weekend and still cramped so badly I spent 30 minutes on the side of the trail whining like a little girl.

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    Muscle Milk is Garbage

    Gotta warn you muscle milk people.

    Muscle Milk Bad

    If you care about you body do not drink muscle milk. Read the label. If you dont know what to look for, check the links below.

    Muscle Milk contains MSG and other garbage not good for you. MSG aka, aspertyme
    sp?and excitotoxins = Glutamate. Bovine colostrum, Sucrose, Corn syrup, to name afew. Lots more crap than that.

    Glutamine is different than glutamate.

    Read here to see how MSG is hidden in ingredient labels. (using other names)

    http://msgmyth.com/
    http://www.naturalnews.com/020550.html

    Your better off with a clean whey protein like designer protein, hammer, jrob, cowboy to name a few.


    Hammer Whey

    Ingredients: Whey Protein Isolate (milk), L-Glutamine, Natural Flavors, White Stevia
    **Unflavored Hammer Whey does not contain Natural Flavors or White Stevia.

    Protein and some natural sweetner, no garbage.

    Muscle Milk Ingredient Details:


    EVOPRO(micellar alpha and beta caseins and ceseinates, whey concentrates rich in alpha-lactalbumin, whey isolates, whey peptides, colostrum extract, l-glutamine, taurine, lactoferrin), leanlipids (trans fat free lipic complex consisiting of canola oil, sunflower and/or safflower oil, mct's, l-carnitine), fructose, cocoa powder maltodextin, cytovite 1 (vitamin and mineral premix consisting of vitamin A acetate, cholecalciferol, d-alpha-tocopherol acetate, ascorbic acid, folate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, niacinamide, pyridoxine hcl, cyanocobalamin, biotin, pantothenic acid, di-calcium phosphate, potassium iodide, potassium chloride, ferrous fumerate, magnesium oxide, copper gluconate, zinc oxide, chromium nicotinate), GCC (proprietary endogenous creatine precursor consisiting of glycocyamine, betaine anhydrous), natural and artificial flavors, acesulfame potassium, sucralose, soy lecithin.

    Not trying to push and hammer products, just trying to show the difference in what is in the product. On a label the 1st thing listed is in the greatest quantity, then down the list in smaller quantities.

    Hope that protects you from wasting your $$ and hurting yourself.

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    Tried it, Sports Legs

    so so.

    If you want something that actually does work very well as advertised...


    http://www.therightstuff-usa.com/


    I've used it on 3 rides now with a noticeable difference. Doesn't make you stronger or faster, but it does keep you hydrated to go longer without cramps or blood sugar issues.

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