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    New question here. Skeggs Routes?

    Ok, as a pseudo-noob to Skeggs (I've ridden there three times in 8 years), I'm looking for some good routes in the park.

    Trails I've been on in the park:
    - ECdM Trail (down)
    - Gordon Mill (up)
    - Hike-a-bike (did as the name said)
    - Tafoni (up, ugh)
    - Sierra Morena
    - Manzanita (I think)
    - Resolution (lower part I think)
    - Fir trail (I think, it was the entrance of one of the routes)

    The only one I was really having a hard time with was hike-a-bike (which I think has now been replaced?). Oh yeah, and going up Tafoni sucks (then again, my climbing is probably better now, but I didn't enjoy it).

    I'm looking for a ~10-15 mile loop. Any suggestions on what to do and what to avoid?

    Also, I plan on going Saturday or Sunday. Any particular time recommended?

    Thanks!

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    New news: Giant Salamander, N & S Leaf and Methusala are open. Any time is good. Watch out for rangers with radar guns on the fire roads especially . I suggest the following:

    Tafoni (Gate 1)
    left on Fir
    Manzanita
    left on Timberview
    right on Crosscut
    left on Timberview
    right on Giant Salamander
    left on Methuselah
    left on Star Hill
    left at Gate 9
    right on S Leaf
    right at Virgina Mill to Gate 11
    right on Star Hill
    right at Gate 8 on Methuselah
    left on N Leaf
    right on ECDM
    right on Resolution
    left on Fir
    right on Sierra Morena to Gate 4
    At Gate 4.5 (green Gate) Steam Donkey
    right on Spring Board
    right on Gordon Mill
    left on Sierra Morena
    to Gate 2 and then back on the road
    or to Fir, right down to Gate 1

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    Thanks for the suggestion

    How steep are these routes? Are they doable by mere mortals (I ride at more of a D level ride by MTBR standards right now), and how long is the mileage?

    Also, are these routes signed? I do remember some routes being not-so-obvious everytime I rode.

    Thanks for the recommendation, I really appreciate it! From what I remember, this all seems pretty doable.

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    All of the trails I listed are on the trail map. There are signs at every junction. The route is probably close to 15 miles. They are all doable, withj ust a couple of steep uphill sections to walk.

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    Bob, thanks for the route. Me (newb) tried that today...

    Quote Originally Posted by justbob
    Tafoni (Gate 1)
    This is where I already got lost - seriously. I went down tafoni and after 3 miles of fireroad I realized that I must have started out wrong. Wasted some energy on this.
    Quote Originally Posted by justbob
    left on Fir
    Manzanita
    Holy mother of god! I have to learn a lot to ride Manzanita...
    Quote Originally Posted by justbob
    left on Timberview
    right on Crosscut
    left on Timberview
    right on Giant Salamander
    left on Methuselah
    left on Star Hill
    left at Gate 9
    right on S Leaf
    right at Virgina Mill to Gate 11
    right on Star Hill
    right at Gate 8 on Methuselah
    left on N Leaf
    About here I got pretty tired and conserved energy by hike-a-biking more.
    Quote Originally Posted by justbob
    right on ECDM
    right on Resolution
    left on Fir
    About here started getting confused "Which side is left again?". So I skipped the rest and rode/hiked back to the parking lot.
    Quote Originally Posted by justbob
    right on Sierra Morena to Gate 4
    At Gate 4.5 (green Gate) Steam Donkey
    right on Spring Board
    right on Gordon Mill
    left on Sierra Morena
    to Gate 2 and then back on the road
    or to Fir, right down to Gate 1
    The other thing that drove me nuts was my disk brakes dragging. When going at the right speed (e.g. walking the bike) it was really loud. I tightened all bolts, but that didn't help. It's dragging all aroud, so I don't think it's a bent rotor.

    All in all 12.5 miles and a great afternoon. Thanks!

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    Glad to hear you got out today. I did chores followed by a road ride.

    I'll add some info that may help you not get off track. Take a look at the official map to follow along:

    http://www.openspace.org/preserves/m..._creek_map.pdf

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    Tafoni (Gate 1) - follow this till 4-Corners
    left on Fir - left intersection here
    Manzanita - go past the road on the left, at 4 way intersection go straight
    left on Timberview - at end of Manzanita go left
    right on Crosscut - at first intersection take singletrack on right
    left on Timberview - go past new single track on left, trail exits back on Timberview Rd
    right on Giant Salamander
    left on Methuselah - take the trail down to the creek crossing and then climb up (this used to be called 914 because the trail went thru a Porsche 914!), take left trail up to Star Hill
    left on Star Hill
    left at Gate 9 - keep eyes open so you don't blow by the trail junction
    right on S Leaf - take all of the way to the end where it junctions on a fire road
    right at Virgina Mill to Gate 11 - a couple hundred yards to the right gets you back on Star Hill
    right on Star Hill
    right at Gate 8 on Methuselah - this is the trailyou climbed up earlier
    left on N Leaf - trail on rightr you climbed up - take left trail
    right on ECDM - trail drops back down to the creek
    right on Resolution - after crossing the creek climb up to start (or end) of Resolution, climb up Resolution
    left on Fir - at tope of Resolution turn left on fire road, take right trail at 4 Corners, then left to stay on Fir
    right on Sierra Morena to Gate 4 - take right singletrack shortly before pavement/gate, take Sierra Morena past Gates 2 & 3
    At Gate 4.5 (green Gate) Steam Donkey - stay on left singletrack where it comes out to Gordon Mill
    right on Spring Board - this is short section to Gordon Mill
    right on Gordon Mill - climb back towards Skyline
    left on Sierra Morena - take parallel Skyline singletrack back to Skegg's parking
    to Gate 2 and then back on the road
    or to Fir, right down to Gate 1

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    Middle route ...

    Sierra Morena -> Blue Blossom -> up Crossover -> across Crosscut -> down Giant Salamander -> up Methusela -> out StarHill/Swett Rd.

    I'll say this is an intermediate ride. You don't go all the way down to the bottom of Skeggs, but you still see a lot of single track.
    "Cycle tracks will abound in Utopia" - H.G. Wells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justbob
    All of the trails I listed are on the trail map. There are signs at every junction. The route is probably close to 15 miles. They are all doable, withj ust a couple of steep uphill sections to walk.
    Sorry, I didn't remember all the trails being signed, especially one like "Hike a Bike". Also, the map on MidPenn seems out of date.

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    I'm pretty sure the midPenn map is the up to date version of what's legally rideable. I think they have closed and re-routed several trails and changed the maps accordingly. Most, if not all, of the intersections have signs.

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    Dig a little

    Why not pick up a shovel before your ride and help out maintaining a few trails with MROSD staff this Saturday 9:30 - 3:30

    RSVP to volunteer@openspace.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yet
    Why not pick up a shovel before your ride and help out maintaining a few trails with MROSD staff this Saturday 9:30 - 3:30

    RSVP to volunteer@openspace.org
    I volunteered for 6/3, and asked how many more spots are available. I'm sure I can take a few more people with me
    Last edited by Stripes; 05-16-2006 at 08:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev1n
    I'm pretty sure the midPenn map is the up to date version of what's legally rideable. I think they have closed and re-routed several trails and changed the maps accordingly. Most, if not all, of the intersections have signs.
    Cool, thanks. I checked out the data on the PDF and it's May 2005, so it should be the most up to date.

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