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    Silky Saws for NorCal

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    Great saw. It's what I use.

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    Worth it!

    Ive got 2 of em and will never get a cheapy Corona, etc again.

    There a thread somewhere in the trail advocacy forum on hand saws with lots of praise for Silky there as well...



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    I use one to great effect, and....

    Pro tip: Bring your old saw too, so if the Silky gets stuck after a tree shifts, you can get the Silky out.

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    The have them at Japan Woodworker in Alameda, and some other brands too, ICYGAS: Japan Woodworker Search for silky saw
    All's well that ends.

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    My favorite trail saw say STIHL on it, slightly heavier but much more efficient....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackies Pasture View Post
    I use one to great effect, and....

    Pro tip: Bring your old saw too, so if the Silky gets stuck after a tree shifts, you can get the Silky out.
    Wedges are good for that.
    All's well that ends.

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    Just bought this:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I really like my Corona but I've cut a LOT of trees with it. Time to upgrade.

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    Do the Silky saws have a set to the teeth? I can't tell from the pix and a lot of Japanese saws do not.
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    My Katana Boy makes me giggle every time I use it. It's amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryman View Post
    My Katana Boy makes me giggle every time I use it. It's amazing.
    Hey now. Family channel. LOLz
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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Hey now. Family channel. LOLz
    Bwahahahahaaha. I see what you did there, and I like


    Quote Originally Posted by RHEL View Post
    Do the Silky saws have a set to the teeth? I can't tell from the pix and a lot of Japanese saws do not.

    Please elaborate
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanxj View Post
    Please elaborate
    Sorry, "set" is the deviation from the centerline of the cut. In forestry saw tooth patterns, some of the teeth are set(bent) slightly outward, but many Japanese patterns do not.
    Saws without set cut faster, but tend to stick when they get in deep.
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    No offset

    Quote Originally Posted by RHEL View Post
    Sorry, "set" is the deviation from the centerline of the cut. In forestry saw tooth patterns, some of the teeth are set(bent) slightly outward, but many Japanese patterns do not.
    Saws without set cut faster, but tend to stick when they get in deep.
    Silky Saws do not have offset teeth. Blades can also be re-sharpened if you have the right equipment. All the use I've gotten from my Silky, I have only gotten if stuck once. Be really careful extracting a stuck blade as the teeth can get broken off.
    Be careful on the push stroke with any saw as it can bend the blade. The cutting stroke is a pull.

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    This one doubles as a bear/cougar weapon.

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    Ok, looks like I'm getting one. Which is the best one if I can just get one? Big Boy? Or maybe a little one and a big one?

    They have this 'chopper' too that looks awesome for camping

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    Silky Big Boy 2000

    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Ok, looks like I'm getting one. Which is the best one if I can just get one? Big Boy? Or maybe a little one and a big one?

    They have this 'chopper' too that looks awesome for camping

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    FC,
    The Silky Big Boy 2000 is all you'll need to do any trail work. The long handle gives you leverage to drive the long blade.

    Anything shorter would be a waste of money if you intend to do "Man's Work" on your trails. This is the Weapon of Choice for the down trees on the north coast with future possibilities for taking out the "DEAD" Wood in DC!

    P.S. Forget chopping! Extra, unnecessary weight to carrying unless you must justify that extra Pliny at days end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RooHarris View Post
    FC,
    The Silky Big Boy 2000 is all you'll need to do any trail work. The long handle gives you leverage to drive the long blade.

    Anything shorter would be a waste of money if you intend to do "Man's Work" on your trails. This is the Weapon of Choice for the down trees on the north coast with future possibilities for taking out the "DEAD" Wood in DC!

    P.S. Forget chopping! Extra, unnecessary weight to carrying unless you must justify that extra Pliny at days end.
    Roo, not all of us live in lumberjack country I got the smaller version to carry around all the time. I'm probably going to get the Big Boy 2000 for when I know there are some big trees down...well, that and so I can post again without being teased for having a "small" one

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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    Roo, not all of us live in lumberjack country I got the smaller version to carry around all the time. I'm probably going to get the Big Boy 2000 for when I know there are some big trees down...well, that and so I can post again without being teased for having a "small" one
    Griz,

    Don't worry, just rub it harder and no one will give you any sh*t when they see that monster! Just be careful putting it back, those teeth will make short work of your zipper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RooHarris View Post
    FC,
    The Silky Big Boy 2000 is all you'll need to do any trail work. The long handle gives you leverage to drive the long blade.

    Anything shorter would be a waste of money if you intend to do "Man's Work" on your trails. This is the Weapon of Choice for the down trees on the north coast with future possibilities for taking out the "DEAD" Wood in DC!

    P.S. Forget chopping! Extra, unnecessary weight to carrying unless you must justify that extra Pliny at days end.
    Fine teeth, medium, or xl teeth? Curved or straight blade? What does it all mean?
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    Xl

    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Fine teeth, medium, or xl teeth? Curved or straight blade? What does it all mean?
    Extra large teeth. The larger the teeth less chance of binding up. Cuts much quicker too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Fine teeth, medium, or xl teeth? Curved or straight blade? What does it all mean?

    Get the aluminum big boy with curve and extra large teeth. Just order your back up blade at same time. You will need it eventually. I have cleared a lot of stuff in the area while hiking.

    I went with the Ultra because is easier to conceal in a pack. But if you don't mind it sticking out the top of a riding pack then Big boy it is.

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    I've got a Big Boi and a smaller 7 or 8" one. I've only used the big one a few times. Anything up to dinner plate size the little guy handles ok. Anything smaller than that and the Big boi is too much imo; you're way too likely to taco that blade without enough of it engaged.

    Are you buying one to primarily clear blow downs? With little to no brushing maintenence type work? BigBoi

    You gunna do some brushing maintenance where you'll be making lots of cuts in a short amount of time all under 6" diameter? Then something smaller

    Of course, one of each will have you covered 👍
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    fc,
    How's about an mtbr hand saw shootout/article?!
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    I'll throw my favorite into the ring! The sven comes in a 21 inch, and a 15 inch. It's much sturdier than any other portable saw that I've found.

    https://www.rei.com/product/404013/sven-folding-saw-21

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanxj View Post
    fc,
    How's about an mtbr hand saw shootout/article?!
    That is not a bad idea. I'm pretty green on the subject. Who's experience and words on the subject? What to buy, what to look for, etc. Best options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    That is not a bad idea. I'm pretty green on the subject. Who's experience and words on the subject? What to buy, what to look for, etc. Best options.
    Will you change the Thread to: Silky Saws for NorCal? I don't want yer buddies moving my threads to the dark corners of MTBR

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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    Will you change the Thread to: Silky Saws for NorCal? I don't want yer buddies moving my threads to the dark corners of MTBR
    I know man. There was another thread about saws in general and it's gone. :9 Went to the black hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    That is not a bad idea. I'm pretty green on the subject. Who's experience and words on the subject? What to buy, what to look for, etc. Best options.
    found it! lol
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c43B0X3siSw



    The folding saw is my go to for non motorized wood work. I might have more hours with one than you, but Im not necessarily informed on the nuances of blades, and Im pretty sure you're more accustomed to reviewing product than I am

    Things to consider:
    -ergonomics
    -speed of cutting
    -quality of build
    -Latch - Some of the saws Ive used make it all too easy to unlock the blade under use, normally when using in tight quarters and confined spaces
    -replaceable blade?
    etc etc etc
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    I use this el cheapo saw. Works fine for me.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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    This is what I have and I really like how it performs as well as how it compacts into itself. I have used it on the trail as well as taking down a medium sized tree on my property.


    Quote Originally Posted by MudderNutter View Post
    I'll throw my favorite into the ring! The sven comes in a 21 inch, and a 15 inch. It's much sturdier than any other portable saw that I've found.

    https://www.rei.com/product/404013/sven-folding-saw-21

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    I don't see the Katana Boy 650 mentioned much usually the 500. Is it just overkill or just a pain to haul in?

    My thought is, if your getting a big ass saw, you might as well get the Günther version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RHEL View Post
    The have them at Japan Woodworker in Alameda, and some other brands too, ICYGAS: Japan Woodworker Search for silky saw
    The actual store closed when it sold out to some internet company. I discovered that awesome place two weeks before it closed shop. It was sad, but saved me major bucks. I did buy an insane axe first.
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    Silly boys....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_Beer View Post
    Silly boys....


    soo wierd...I mean one with nature? there are times to be naked and times to protect oneself....this has to be Germany.
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    Is this website rated "PG"?

    PLEASE NO CHILDREN UNDER 13!

    Not sure that these women have some sort of physical abnormality, but as a doctor (of sorts), I'd say those black spots look possibly like some form of melanoma?

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    That sure made my Silky BIG BOY Bigger!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RooHarris View Post
    PLEASE NO CHILDREN UNDER 13!

    Not sure that these women have some sort of physical abnormality, but as a doctor (of sorts), I'd say those black spots look possibly like some form of melanoma?

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    That sure made my Silky BIG BOY Bigger!
    All over that wood ... Is it too early to bring in the dam building creatures?
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    I got the Silky PocketBoy and tried it out today. Amazing little work of art. 160 grams and looks like it's gonna be very handy.
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    Like my Silky Bigboy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    I got the Silky PocketBoy and tried it out today. Amazing little work of art. 160 grams and looks like it's gonna be very handy.
    I got the pocket boy 170 w/large teeth (red handle), it's perfect for carrying in my pack. It's not too big, and the aggressive teeth cut right thru everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MudderNutter View Post
    I'll throw my favorite into the ring! The sven comes in a 21 inch, and a 15 inch. It's much sturdier than any other portable saw that I've found.

    https://www.rei.com/product/404013/sven-folding-saw-21

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    With that saw, the frame severely limits the size of tree you can cut. The capabilities of open blade trail saws are much more robust.

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    can someone explain all the naked lady lumberjacks?

    and my trail saw is (i'm 90% sure) is make by PIA. Prison Industries Ass...it is crappy, but cuts pretty well. it was free when a maintenance worker tossed it, cuz he got poison oak over it. i'm not allergic, so i took it home and cleaned it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomchakabowwow View Post
    can someone explain all the naked lady lumberjacks?
    How did you think all the wood is made?

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    I have the medium teeth. Broke one blade. Tried Corona. It was OK but ... Bought new blade for Silky. Happy Silky.

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    Here the Silky Pocketboy in action. We cut 6 trees blocking the way.

    The saw has a 130mm blade and weighs only 160 grams

    https://youtu.be/chV6GCyjaYY

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    We took down this log with the Silky Big Boy. We cut the small side but the thing would not budge and just got hung up. We had to cut the thick side. Damn. That was a tough bugger. Doesn't help that we ha no upper body strength.

    Saw was good. Very ergonomic and rarely got hung up. Nice clean cut!

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    Nice work with the Silky FC! Last year we cleared all of Elwell with the Big Boy, cutting logs up to 24". That's a little big but we didn't have to go back with a chainsaw. I imagine I'll be back to the big saw up there this year. We always preride the bigger trails like Elwell to see what we'll need, but of course we bring a few Silky's on the preride.

    Great to see NorCal peeps packing saws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronski View Post
    Nice work with the Silky FC! Last year we cleared all of Elwell with the Big Boy, cutting logs up to 24". That's a little big but we didn't have to go back with a chainsaw. I imagine I'll be back to the big saw up there this year. We always preride the bigger trails like Elwell to see what we'll need, but of course we bring a few Silky's on the preride.

    Great to see NorCal peeps packing saws.
    Found out the tree was a tanoak. Hard and heavy!!! Diameter was about 16 inches.Silky Saws-img_4971.jpg
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    Ya, we were mostly cutting Red Firs on Elwell, which are easier to cut. Of course they can be 3 to 4 feet in diameter. You can see all the ones we've cut up high on Mills and Elwell and elsewhere in the Lakes Basin. Good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtJunky View Post
    With that saw, the frame severely limits the size of tree you can cut. The capabilities of open blade trail saws are much more robust.
    Yeah, Sven saws suck for trail clearing. Once you've gotten a few inches into a log, your stroke keeps getting shorter and shorter because it's limited by the saw frame. You have to keep rotating around the log. And to top it off, you have to repeatedly assemble and disassemble the saw when you come across another downed tree. Whereas with a folding saw, you just pull it out and open it.

    I don't see much reason to own anything smaller than a BigBoy. It's not that heavy, and it fits in most hydration packs (an Acre in my case). I also have a Sugoi, but although the convenience of a strapped-on scabbard is nice, it's not as good for trail work- the pistol grip tires you out faster than the straight handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swinkey View Post
    Just bought this:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I really like my Corona but I've cut a LOT of trees with it. Time to upgrade.

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    I have this. I bent the blade yesterday cutting a small diameter ponderosa pine. It still works but it doesn't fold up well.

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    Here was my battle. I am learning how to use a trail saw and developing a little bit of technique and strength. I think I'll be good by summer.

    When done with a group, it's really fun.

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    The tree is a Tanoak about 50 feet long. We are near the base of it.
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    Silky Saw-OFF World Championships in New Zealand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    Silky Saw-OFF World Championships in New Zealand.
    nice. Sily Saw porn for the win!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RooHarris View Post
    Extra large teeth. The larger the teeth less chance of binding up. Cuts much quicker too.
    yes been rocking a silky BigBoy 2000 XL for 4 years now
    ...and it will cut a car in half.

    nothing you can fold up and carry in a camelbak
    works as well as a silky xl

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    Are they using straight blades in the saw-off? I have wondered which is better for trail work, straight or curved?

    I currently use the 170mm folding straight black handle Silky. I seldom cut pieces larger than 6 in diameter. We have many, many smaller (than NorCal) trees with lots of branches that fall or grow across the trail.

    Curved or straight?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elder_mtber View Post
    Are they using straight blades in the saw-off? I have wondered which is better for trail work, straight or curved?

    I currently use the 170mm folding straight black handle Silky. I seldom cut pieces larger than 6 in diameter. We have many, many smaller (than NorCal) trees with lots of branches that fall or grow across the trail.

    Curved or straight?

    Thanks.
    Curved saw! It generates more cutting power as the blade naturally digs in to the wood at normal cutting angles... up high or down low.

    Here's a vid. Lady says straight saws are good for waist high cuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw07LJ0DOI0
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    Agreed on curved. I hate my straight blade saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraxFactory View Post
    I don't see the Katana Boy 650 mentioned much usually the 500. Is it just overkill or just a pain to haul in?

    My thought is, if your getting a big ass saw, you might as well get the Günther version.

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    My 500 is plenty big for anything I can imagine tackling. It's not something you'd ride with every day like you might with a saw that fits inside a pack, but they're no problem to ride with when you need to. They come with a case that has a single strap, I just sling that over the top of my camelback and it's out of the way and fine.

    I have to say that everyone who uses mine, A: starts giggling, and B: says "Now that's a saw!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Curved saw! It generates more cutting power as the blade naturally digs in to the wood at normal cutting angles... up high or down low.

    Here's a vid. Lady says straight saws are good for waist high cuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw07LJ0DOI0
    I'mma gonna say straight saw is best 'overall' (any situation)
    becuz
    if you are tackling blowdowns bigger than your blade, like monsters, and/or close to the ground or laying on them...you can better control the blade and avoid it getting jammed or touching the dirt. also thread it in-between crud to reach tough spots.

    I tried curved before...left it back at the shop for garden work.

    it's silky straight blade for me on mtb rides after storms hunting new blowdowns

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    I'mma gonna say straight saw is best 'overall' (any situation)
    becuz
    if you are tackling blowdowns bigger than your blade, like monsters, and/or close to the ground or laying on them...you can better control the blade and avoid it getting jammed or touching the dirt. also thread it in-between crud to reach tough spots.

    I tried curved before...left it back at the shop for garden work.

    it's silky straight blade for me on mtb rides after storms hunting new blowdowns
    This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I do a lot of cutting at inconvenient angles and in semi-cluttered areas. However, I don't do big ones - like never one footers or larger. I'm using the 170mm Silky.

    Thanks!

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    I cut down over 60 trees/large branches last year with a curved blade $20 Corona 8" saw. The blade is dull so I decided to "upgrade" and got a straight blade Silky.

    I only cut two trees over the weekend and I hate my straight blade Silky 210 already. For a small 3" tree that fell in my favorite parking space, the straight blade did fine. It left a lot to be desired for the 8" tree that fell on a trail. It should have been an easy tree to clear but I never felt comfortable with two hands on the saw and the straight blade made it difficult to cut under the tree.

    I went home and bought a curved blade silky 240. This thing is huge and barely fits inside my Camelbak so I recommend going for a smaller one if you only cut a few trees a year. I'm excited to try it out this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elder_mtber View Post
    This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I do a lot of cutting at inconvenient angles and in semi-cluttered areas. However, I don't do big ones - like never one footers or larger. I'm using the 170mm Silky.

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    Oh man I am always taking on gigantic stuff as big or bigger than my silky bigboy..and solo too. I'd say one tree a year is outsized...the rest are just about silky size.

    -first I see it, and determine if this should be a new ride feature, or it has to go

    -remove all the small stuff and branches if there are any, so i have space to work
    silky blasts though the stuff 4 inches and under in mere seconds

    -hunt nearby areas for deadfall, or rocks... the right shape and size to use as levers, fulcrums, or rollers, or stands... so when I try to move this 5 ton monster or cut it I have room, or don't trap the saw...ya know...get my engineering hat on...

    -cut and cut and cut, poke, prod, get that 6 footx4 inch oak tree limb I found as a lever, whatever I need to use...and convince this sucker to move, slide, drag, get offa the trail.

    *I once did trap my saw
    and I found an old creosote railroad tie in the woods and (man it was heavy and I was in my roadie lycra skinsuit!) picked that thing up and used it as a battering ram on a 16 inch oak so my saw would drop out. saw got trapped because I miscalculated the angle of the dangle and wasn't paying attention to the obvious closing of the gap.

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    Looking forward to the weekend work report. Thanks!

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    Based on the discussion, just bought this:

    New Silky GOMBOY Curve Large teeth 210 mm 463-21 Hand Folding Saw Japan | eBay

    Slightly larger than the pocket and with a curved blade. Should fit nicely in my pack. I'm psyched!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryman View Post
    My 500 is plenty big for anything I can imagine tackling. It's not something you'd ride with every day like you might with a saw that fits inside a pack, but they're no problem to ride with when you need to. They come with a case that has a single strap, I just sling that over the top of my camelback and it's out of the way and fine.

    I have to say that everyone who uses mine, A: starts giggling, and B: says "Now that's a saw!"

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    Put in some time with the KB 500 this weekend and worked amazingly well. We were able to get through a messy log jam of blow downs. Resulted in 12 large cuts ranging from ~8in - ~16in with several smaller cuts. Mostly Oak with some Bay Laurel

    Very impressive and straps onto pack easily. $100 Amazon, could not pass it up.

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    More storms coming! Not too late to get the Silky saw!!!
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    Just got in on the action. My corona has shit the bed, so some kind japanese ebay gentleman is now packing a BIGBOY 2000 and a SUPER ACCEL 210 for delivery sometime in the near future. Can't wait to PEZ my fingers like ssulljm.
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    I just went outside and pruned a bunch of branches. It's pretty therapeutic how a Silky saw cuts in to fresh wood. Wax on, wax off, Pull.... and let the saw do the work for you.

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    https://youtu.be/zpMhhkf6q3s if its good enough for Cody at 10:00 im buying one. Have a fixed blade now and its just dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomchakabowwow View Post
    I did buy an insane axe first.
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    I just ordered 3 bigboys. One for myself and 2 as gifts. There's a tree down on the Mule Mountain summit trail I'll test it out on if I get to it first.

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    Ordered a Bigboy 2000 myself last night!

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    Here's a little bit of Katana Boy action at Henry Coe filmed by Ted of Sustainable Trails Coalition fame:



    We'd made most of the previous (smaller) cuts with the Silky; next post.
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    Heavy breathing

    We took the upper limbs off with the Silky before doing the final cut with the 2-man.



    Worth its weight in gold this little capstan winch got the logs clear of the trail:

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    This photo gives a better sense of the size of tree:

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    I heard I'm doing a 10-saw shootout this week. My man snowjnky has collected all the saws and he's got the muscle to get it done.
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    I'm looking forward to receiving a Silky Bigboy 2000 tomorrow!

    I've used the Bahco Laplander a lot; it fits great in my pack or pocket, cuts brush quickly, and can get through small trees. It's getting dull after 3 months, and the steel blade tip bends (I bend it back).

    Ordered the Bigboy from REI, so if it is too big for my pack, I will use it and then exchange for a smaller Silky. There are some 10-14 inch trees blocking my local trail(s) that I will tackle with the Silky ASAP! There also lots of pruning around the yard to do....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    I heard I'm doing a 10-saw shootout this week. My man snowjnky has collected all the saws and he's got the muscle to get it done.
    Get some 4x4 posts for control cuts.

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    Bigboy slides right into most camelbaks. I use a double sided velcro strip to wrap the blade closed into it's slot. thing is so f'n sharp I treat it like a loaded firearm

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    I was checking out YouTube videos and it looks like the Ultra Accel might be a better alternative to the Gomboy.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B19MA84...=IDEMKC5VHBR9L

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    I enjoy these Dutch buschcraft guys channel and they raced a Silky with a Stihl and the Silky won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    Bigboy slides right into most camelbaks. I use a double sided velcro strip to wrap the blade closed into it's slot. thing is so f'n sharp I treat it like a loaded firearm
    This CANT be overstated. Carry ample first aid with you when cutting, at least something to slow excessive bleeding
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    How long do the blades last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andytiedye View Post
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    I can't believe how some of you geek out over a handsaw.

    I also can't believe that I'm actually considering one too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andytiedye View Post
    How long do the blades last?
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    Well, has anyone here used their Silky enough that its cutting ability began to degrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andytiedye View Post
    Well, has anyone here used their Silky enough that its cutting ability began to degrade?
    Of course; it depends what and where you're cutting. Cutting pine branches at shoulder level a blade might stay sharp for years. Cutting chaparral near the ground line you'll need a sharpening/new blade in a day.

    Which brings up another point; some Silky blades can be easily resharpened; other can not. (Silky sell files for those blades) 2 of the 3 types of Silkys I use are of the non-sharpenable type; they have induction-hardened teeth the tips of which are harder than files. (Why the blades stay sharp a long time in moderate sawing conditions)

    I can still sharpen the non-sharpenable type; I use diamond discs in a Moto-Tool---something the average bloke will probably find not worth the trouble. I can usually get 3 sharpenings before I need a fresh blade. I started to put together a You Tube on the technique but haven't finished it.
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    Bang for the buck the Corona Razor Tooth wins. Even without the bang for the buck factor, pretty sure I'd take the Corona over the Silky.

    I spent many hours with hand saws and have owned Silkys, Fiskars, Stihls, Bacho, and Corona.

    The Silky is very well made but they don't make a curved blade in my preferred length. Also, their blades, while super high quality, are very thin, and if you get to feisty with your cutting and do a push instead of a pull its too easy to bend the blade.

    The Bacho is nice and light and compact but does not cut fast enough for trail work purposes. I take the Bacho on hiking trips.

    The Corona Razor Tooth can be had at Lowes for like $18. Very comfortable grip, easy to open and close, curved blade. And fits snuggly inside the side pocket of Carhartts. Maybe the blade dulls a bit faster than others, but that I'm not sure of.


    Take my recommendations with this in mind. I rarely use the saw to tackle any tree/limb larger than upper arm's width. Anything larger than that gets a chainsaw, which I take for a trail walk about 3 times a year.

    Curved vs straight... No brainer. Curved. Especially if you are taking down overhanging limbs. For larger downed trees, no comment, as I don't use a hand saw for that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andytiedye View Post
    How long do the blades last?
    I have broken a blade but not worn one out. I have not used a blade for a whole year yet due to the breakage. Saw user needs to take care when pushing and don't try to go too fast.

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    Was wondering if these saws work well for grass too. Most of our trails need a serious trimming after this past winter. I haven't seen any foldable machetes - this seems like it would be the better solution. Can these saws slash through grass and other plants pretty easily?

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    Short answer is yes. long answer is oh god nooooo. It would be slow and not worth it.
    An electric weed wacker is much more efficient. We use one to clear grass from trails in record time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eman555 View Post
    Was wondering if these saws work well for grass too. Most of our trails need a serious trimming after this past winter. I haven't seen any foldable machetes - this seems like it would be the better solution. Can these saws slash through grass and other plants pretty easily?
    Does it lock open? If not, swinging it like a machete might risk having it close on your hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by eman555 View Post
    Was wondering if these saws work well for grass too. Most of our trails need a serious trimming after this past winter. I haven't seen any foldable machetes - this seems like it would be the better solution. Can these saws slash through grass and other plants pretty easily?
    It locks open but I wouldn't use it for that. It has crazy profile teeth that cut in 3 directions so it won't be efficient cutting through grass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eman555 View Post
    Was wondering if these saws work well for grass too. Most of our trails need a serious trimming after this past winter. I haven't seen any foldable machetes - this seems like it would be the better solution. Can these saws slash through grass and other plants pretty easily?
    Yes but hitting a rock hidden in grass is a bummer (I've done it).

    Slashing at brush can snap a Silky blade, in this regard they're not as tough as say a Corona or Fiskar. (I've got a post somewhere here about breaking a Silky)

    Silky actually has a saw model with a hooked tip for hacking at ivy or some such material.
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    Agree, cutting through grass probably not good, will hangup on teeth too much and too flexy blade. A beast for logs!

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