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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtJunky View Post
    With that saw, the frame severely limits the size of tree you can cut. The capabilities of open blade trail saws are much more robust.
    Yeah, Sven saws suck for trail clearing. Once you've gotten a few inches into a log, your stroke keeps getting shorter and shorter because it's limited by the saw frame. You have to keep rotating around the log. And to top it off, you have to repeatedly assemble and disassemble the saw when you come across another downed tree. Whereas with a folding saw, you just pull it out and open it.

    I don't see much reason to own anything smaller than a BigBoy. It's not that heavy, and it fits in most hydration packs (an Acre in my case). I also have a Sugoi, but although the convenience of a strapped-on scabbard is nice, it's not as good for trail work- the pistol grip tires you out faster than the straight handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swinkey View Post
    Just bought this:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I really like my Corona but I've cut a LOT of trees with it. Time to upgrade.

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    I have this. I bent the blade yesterday cutting a small diameter ponderosa pine. It still works but it doesn't fold up well.

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    Here was my battle. I am learning how to use a trail saw and developing a little bit of technique and strength. I think I'll be good by summer.

    When done with a group, it's really fun.

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    The tree is a Tanoak about 50 feet long. We are near the base of it.
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    Silky Saw-OFF World Championships in New Zealand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    Silky Saw-OFF World Championships in New Zealand.
    nice. Sily Saw porn for the win!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RooHarris View Post
    Extra large teeth. The larger the teeth less chance of binding up. Cuts much quicker too.
    yes been rocking a silky BigBoy 2000 XL for 4 years now
    ...and it will cut a car in half.

    nothing you can fold up and carry in a camelbak
    works as well as a silky xl

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    Are they using straight blades in the saw-off? I have wondered which is better for trail work, straight or curved?

    I currently use the 170mm folding straight black handle Silky. I seldom cut pieces larger than 6 in diameter. We have many, many smaller (than NorCal) trees with lots of branches that fall or grow across the trail.

    Curved or straight?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elder_mtber View Post
    Are they using straight blades in the saw-off? I have wondered which is better for trail work, straight or curved?

    I currently use the 170mm folding straight black handle Silky. I seldom cut pieces larger than 6 in diameter. We have many, many smaller (than NorCal) trees with lots of branches that fall or grow across the trail.

    Curved or straight?

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    Curved saw! It generates more cutting power as the blade naturally digs in to the wood at normal cutting angles... up high or down low.

    Here's a vid. Lady says straight saws are good for waist high cuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw07LJ0DOI0
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    Agreed on curved. I hate my straight blade saw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraxFactory View Post
    I don't see the Katana Boy 650 mentioned much usually the 500. Is it just overkill or just a pain to haul in?

    My thought is, if your getting a big ass saw, you might as well get the Günther version.

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    My 500 is plenty big for anything I can imagine tackling. It's not something you'd ride with every day like you might with a saw that fits inside a pack, but they're no problem to ride with when you need to. They come with a case that has a single strap, I just sling that over the top of my camelback and it's out of the way and fine.

    I have to say that everyone who uses mine, A: starts giggling, and B: says "Now that's a saw!"

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    Thanks, FC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    Curved saw! It generates more cutting power as the blade naturally digs in to the wood at normal cutting angles... up high or down low.

    Here's a vid. Lady says straight saws are good for waist high cuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw07LJ0DOI0
    I'mma gonna say straight saw is best 'overall' (any situation)
    becuz
    if you are tackling blowdowns bigger than your blade, like monsters, and/or close to the ground or laying on them...you can better control the blade and avoid it getting jammed or touching the dirt. also thread it in-between crud to reach tough spots.

    I tried curved before...left it back at the shop for garden work.

    it's silky straight blade for me on mtb rides after storms hunting new blowdowns

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    I'mma gonna say straight saw is best 'overall' (any situation)
    becuz
    if you are tackling blowdowns bigger than your blade, like monsters, and/or close to the ground or laying on them...you can better control the blade and avoid it getting jammed or touching the dirt. also thread it in-between crud to reach tough spots.

    I tried curved before...left it back at the shop for garden work.

    it's silky straight blade for me on mtb rides after storms hunting new blowdowns
    This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I do a lot of cutting at inconvenient angles and in semi-cluttered areas. However, I don't do big ones - like never one footers or larger. I'm using the 170mm Silky.

    Thanks!

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    I cut down over 60 trees/large branches last year with a curved blade $20 Corona 8" saw. The blade is dull so I decided to "upgrade" and got a straight blade Silky.

    I only cut two trees over the weekend and I hate my straight blade Silky 210 already. For a small 3" tree that fell in my favorite parking space, the straight blade did fine. It left a lot to be desired for the 8" tree that fell on a trail. It should have been an easy tree to clear but I never felt comfortable with two hands on the saw and the straight blade made it difficult to cut under the tree.

    I went home and bought a curved blade silky 240. This thing is huge and barely fits inside my Camelbak so I recommend going for a smaller one if you only cut a few trees a year. I'm excited to try it out this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elder_mtber View Post
    This is exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I do a lot of cutting at inconvenient angles and in semi-cluttered areas. However, I don't do big ones - like never one footers or larger. I'm using the 170mm Silky.

    Thanks!
    Oh man I am always taking on gigantic stuff as big or bigger than my silky bigboy..and solo too. I'd say one tree a year is outsized...the rest are just about silky size.

    -first I see it, and determine if this should be a new ride feature, or it has to go

    -remove all the small stuff and branches if there are any, so i have space to work
    silky blasts though the stuff 4 inches and under in mere seconds

    -hunt nearby areas for deadfall, or rocks... the right shape and size to use as levers, fulcrums, or rollers, or stands... so when I try to move this 5 ton monster or cut it I have room, or don't trap the saw...ya know...get my engineering hat on...

    -cut and cut and cut, poke, prod, get that 6 footx4 inch oak tree limb I found as a lever, whatever I need to use...and convince this sucker to move, slide, drag, get offa the trail.

    *I once did trap my saw
    and I found an old creosote railroad tie in the woods and (man it was heavy and I was in my roadie lycra skinsuit!) picked that thing up and used it as a battering ram on a 16 inch oak so my saw would drop out. saw got trapped because I miscalculated the angle of the dangle and wasn't paying attention to the obvious closing of the gap.

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    Looking forward to the weekend work report. Thanks!

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    Based on the discussion, just bought this:

    New Silky GOMBOY Curve Large teeth 210 mm 463-21 Hand Folding Saw Japan | eBay

    Slightly larger than the pocket and with a curved blade. Should fit nicely in my pack. I'm psyched!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harryman View Post
    My 500 is plenty big for anything I can imagine tackling. It's not something you'd ride with every day like you might with a saw that fits inside a pack, but they're no problem to ride with when you need to. They come with a case that has a single strap, I just sling that over the top of my camelback and it's out of the way and fine.

    I have to say that everyone who uses mine, A: starts giggling, and B: says "Now that's a saw!"

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    Put in some time with the KB 500 this weekend and worked amazingly well. We were able to get through a messy log jam of blow downs. Resulted in 12 large cuts ranging from ~8in - ~16in with several smaller cuts. Mostly Oak with some Bay Laurel

    Very impressive and straps onto pack easily. $100 Amazon, could not pass it up.

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    More storms coming! Not too late to get the Silky saw!!!
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    Just got in on the action. My corona has shit the bed, so some kind japanese ebay gentleman is now packing a BIGBOY 2000 and a SUPER ACCEL 210 for delivery sometime in the near future. Can't wait to PEZ my fingers like ssulljm.
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    I just went outside and pruned a bunch of branches. It's pretty therapeutic how a Silky saw cuts in to fresh wood. Wax on, wax off, Pull.... and let the saw do the work for you.

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    https://youtu.be/zpMhhkf6q3s if its good enough for Cody at 10:00 im buying one. Have a fixed blade now and its just dangerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomchakabowwow View Post
    I did buy an insane axe first.
    $105 on Amazon

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    I just ordered 3 bigboys. One for myself and 2 as gifts. There's a tree down on the Mule Mountain summit trail I'll test it out on if I get to it first.

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    Ordered a Bigboy 2000 myself last night!

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    Here's a little bit of Katana Boy action at Henry Coe filmed by Ted of Sustainable Trails Coalition fame:



    We'd made most of the previous (smaller) cuts with the Silky; next post.
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    Heavy breathing

    We took the upper limbs off with the Silky before doing the final cut with the 2-man.



    Worth its weight in gold this little capstan winch got the logs clear of the trail:

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    This photo gives a better sense of the size of tree:

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    I heard I'm doing a 10-saw shootout this week. My man snowjnky has collected all the saws and he's got the muscle to get it done.
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    I'm looking forward to receiving a Silky Bigboy 2000 tomorrow!

    I've used the Bahco Laplander a lot; it fits great in my pack or pocket, cuts brush quickly, and can get through small trees. It's getting dull after 3 months, and the steel blade tip bends (I bend it back).

    Ordered the Bigboy from REI, so if it is too big for my pack, I will use it and then exchange for a smaller Silky. There are some 10-14 inch trees blocking my local trail(s) that I will tackle with the Silky ASAP! There also lots of pruning around the yard to do....

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    Quote Originally Posted by fc View Post
    I heard I'm doing a 10-saw shootout this week. My man snowjnky has collected all the saws and he's got the muscle to get it done.
    Get some 4x4 posts for control cuts.

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    Bigboy slides right into most camelbaks. I use a double sided velcro strip to wrap the blade closed into it's slot. thing is so f'n sharp I treat it like a loaded firearm

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    I was checking out YouTube videos and it looks like the Ultra Accel might be a better alternative to the Gomboy.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B19MA84...=IDEMKC5VHBR9L

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    I enjoy these Dutch buschcraft guys channel and they raced a Silky with a Stihl and the Silky won.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    Bigboy slides right into most camelbaks. I use a double sided velcro strip to wrap the blade closed into it's slot. thing is so f'n sharp I treat it like a loaded firearm
    This CANT be overstated. Carry ample first aid with you when cutting, at least something to slow excessive bleeding
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    How long do the blades last?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andytiedye View Post
    How long do the blades last?
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    I can't believe how some of you geek out over a handsaw.

    I also can't believe that I'm actually considering one too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andytiedye View Post
    How long do the blades last?
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    Well, has anyone here used their Silky enough that its cutting ability began to degrade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andytiedye View Post
    Well, has anyone here used their Silky enough that its cutting ability began to degrade?
    Of course; it depends what and where you're cutting. Cutting pine branches at shoulder level a blade might stay sharp for years. Cutting chaparral near the ground line you'll need a sharpening/new blade in a day.

    Which brings up another point; some Silky blades can be easily resharpened; other can not. (Silky sell files for those blades) 2 of the 3 types of Silkys I use are of the non-sharpenable type; they have induction-hardened teeth the tips of which are harder than files. (Why the blades stay sharp a long time in moderate sawing conditions)

    I can still sharpen the non-sharpenable type; I use diamond discs in a Moto-Tool---something the average bloke will probably find not worth the trouble. I can usually get 3 sharpenings before I need a fresh blade. I started to put together a You Tube on the technique but haven't finished it.
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    Bang for the buck the Corona Razor Tooth wins. Even without the bang for the buck factor, pretty sure I'd take the Corona over the Silky.

    I spent many hours with hand saws and have owned Silkys, Fiskars, Stihls, Bacho, and Corona.

    The Silky is very well made but they don't make a curved blade in my preferred length. Also, their blades, while super high quality, are very thin, and if you get to feisty with your cutting and do a push instead of a pull its too easy to bend the blade.

    The Bacho is nice and light and compact but does not cut fast enough for trail work purposes. I take the Bacho on hiking trips.

    The Corona Razor Tooth can be had at Lowes for like $18. Very comfortable grip, easy to open and close, curved blade. And fits snuggly inside the side pocket of Carhartts. Maybe the blade dulls a bit faster than others, but that I'm not sure of.


    Take my recommendations with this in mind. I rarely use the saw to tackle any tree/limb larger than upper arm's width. Anything larger than that gets a chainsaw, which I take for a trail walk about 3 times a year.

    Curved vs straight... No brainer. Curved. Especially if you are taking down overhanging limbs. For larger downed trees, no comment, as I don't use a hand saw for that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by andytiedye View Post
    How long do the blades last?
    I have broken a blade but not worn one out. I have not used a blade for a whole year yet due to the breakage. Saw user needs to take care when pushing and don't try to go too fast.

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