Is there any such thing as fight club any more? We've had unofficial rules of keeping certain topics out of this forum (which I used to be a big supporter of), but given the rise of some other websites, (ahem, cough, cough, you know what I'm talking about) it seems kind of pointless.
Personally I was holding the torch until last November. Then I logged onto one of those sites and found that 165 people had ridden one of my favorite trails. At that point I figured if you can't beat them then join them. Sometimes I think it's really fun, but other times I think the sh!t's going to hit the fan some day and we're all going to lose.
So, is Fight Club dead? Is there any point anymore? Is there any way back? How do you get 165 (now 330+) people to change their minds? Is it just up here in the North Bay that the game is over or is it the same everywhere?
I dunno... my beer might be empty, but my glass is half full. Maybe if "the authorities" see that these no-bike trails are ridden a ton and there are zero injuries and deaths, they'll come to grips that mt. biking ought not be banned from said trails.
Also, show me where gps tracks lead to action from authorities.
I dunno... my beer might be empty, but my glass is half full. Maybe if "the authorities" see that these no-bike trails are ridden a ton and there are zero injuries and deaths, they'll come to grips that mt. biking ought not be banned from said trails.....
Maybe there's a silver lining to all this, that increased traffic all of a sudden is a way of mainstreaming these areas and making it clear that it's not just the activity of some "rogue elements" (or pick whatever alarmist tag The Other Side might use in a MarinIJ rant). I know it's risky -- and I'm not sure I buy the argument myself, just thinking aloud -- but it might be time for a new strategy. At a certain size, our constituency won't be as easy to ignore by those pesky elected officials, and this is a way of making those numbers evident.
there's a state park where i ride that is in the process of officially opening 'undocumented' trails that have been ridden regularly for over 15 years.
Rangers are coming to realize that there is virtually zero trail conflict, most users a good stewards, we keep the riff-raff out....and we are enjoying the outdoors....which is generally a good thing.
Slightly OT but can anyone tell me how to create a segment? There is a legal trail that runs close to another that has been created. The problem is when I look on the Strava map it doesn't come up. I can see it on the official trail map from the park. Thoughts??
the UI changed a little since that video was posted, but it should give you a general idea. this one is a little more up to date on what the interface actually looks like:
So I posted a request for private group segments (segments that aren't in segment explorer and only show up if you've ridden the trail) My request never showed up. I asked them about it and they review all requests before posting them for the public, but I didn't get the sense that it was going to show up. I'd suggest that other people post there as well, the more people request it the more likely they are to add a feature like this. Here's what I posted:
Strava needs segments that aren't visible to the population at large and don't show up in the segment explorer. Suppose I have a trail on my sprawling 1000 acre ranch that me and my buddies race on. We want to keep the leaderboard, but not have people finding it on strava and coming and riding on my property without an invitation. Here's how this could work.
1) Allow segments to be marked private/hidden (different from the current definiton of private segments...)
2) private/hidden segments don't show up in segment explorer
3) People can only see private/hidden segment leaderboards if they've ridden the trail
4) private/hidden segments don't show up in your profile except to your followers
5) If 5 or more people request it a segment becomes private/hidden.
Thanks for your consideration!
Post up here if your request gets posted for public comment so others can chime in.
I, for one, do appreciate publicly shared GPS trails. I usually ride alone, due to time constraints and most of my friends having different interests, and I had no means to get that information previously. I did not grew up in the area.
Until strava does something about it I'm out. I took down all my tracks. I didn't have many KOM's, but I had some second and thirds and top 10's that I was pretty psyched about and it hurt a little to take those down. But screw it, it never felt right and there's indirect evidence that a couple trails were logged in response to an increase of activity on those trails on strava. That's enough for me.
Thinking I might upload tracks for a day or so post ride so I can still share with friends but mark them private after that so there's no history. Compromise.
sweet revive...Slide, ur **** has staying power bro.
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