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    Pliny's "Tree Down at Henry W Coe SP" Contest.

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    Remember "Pliny's Missing Marker Contest"???

    This is kind of like that only different; points will be awarded for posting the description a tree within Henry W Coe SP that's blocking a trail or otherwise posing a hazard in the park.

    An accurate description ("24 inch diameter oak tree down on Cross Canyon 3/4 mile from Coit Rd") is good for one point; this plus a photo will get you another point, a geo-tagged photo yet another point, including a kmz (like from Google Earth) will net you 4 points.

    If you've cleared a tree yourself, we'd like to hear about that too---that info is also worth a point. (Maybe more if the tree was gnarly big)

    Also; downed trees (that haven't been cleared) previously reported on MTBR qualify to be included here.

    Prizes TBD but will be the usual swag and beverages; this'll be a monthly contest.

    Here's a couple of mine from 2 weekends ago:
    <a href="http://s1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/TASC%20Live%20Oak%20Springs%20TWD%2020110924/?action=view&amp;current=DSC01836.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/TASC%20Live%20Oak%20Springs%20TWD%2020110924/DSC01836.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    24" pine down on Live Oak Spring Trail about 1/2 mile N/E of Wagon Rd

    <a href="http://s1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/TASC%20Live%20Oak%20Springs%20TWD%2020110924/?action=view&amp;current=DSC01851.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/TASC%20Live%20Oak%20Springs%20TWD%2020110924/DSC01851.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    16" pine down on Live Oak Springs Trail (upper) about 1/4 mile N of the springs

    The info gathered will be prioritized and a) if the tree is large the DPR will be notified for removal by chainsaw, or b) the Uniformed Volunteers will send out a work party.

    Downed trees at Coe are becoming a huge problem at Coe due to the deadfall from the Lick Fire.

    Coe will also be losing maintenance workers next July so the more trees we can get on the list the more the State will be able to remove before then.

    BTW; "Pliny's Missing Marker Contest" is alive and well; it's just too far ahead of the group in charge of making repairs to the signs---when they catch up it'll start again.
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    For your workday amusement...

    Here's an oak I partially cleared from the Jim Donnelly Trail yesterday:
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    About 3/4 of a mile up from Hunting Hollow Rd---don't bother reporting this one! It still needs complete removal to allow equestrian traffic; hikers and bikers can pass under it OK.

    Must've fallen late Sunday or early Monday---maybe because of the storm???

    Before you ask, that is a Surly Pugsly!
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    Good sized tree (4' diameter) on either lower Middle Ridge by the creek, or the creek trail to China Hole.

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    I'm thinking about bringing a big saw for this weekend's festivities...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pliebenberg View Post
    Here's an oak I partially cleared from the Jim Donnelly Trail yesterday:
    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/byNY13xtjSI?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    About 3/4 of a mile up from Hunting Hollow Rd---don't bother reporting this one! It still needs complete removal to allow equestrian traffic; hikers and bikers can pass under it OK.

    Must've fallen late Sunday or early Monday---maybe because of the storm???

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    Awesome contest. It's been great riding past new signs that resulted from the sign contest.

    All my photos are geotagged.

    Clearly, you've already got the Cross Canyon tree:
    Latitude 37.144933° N
    Longitude 121.463774° W

    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/eXjD8wl8d21FSC6IPNTBUg?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-JjxUE5bQWzk/Tn9_bAcBbwI/AAAAAAAAmUw/fVV2gOb4e-M/s800/P1040614.JPG" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/patrick.herlihy/HenryCoeCurseOfTwoSep2011?authuser=0&feat=embedweb site">Henry Coe (Curse of Two - Sep 2011</a></td></tr></table>

    This one.. hmm.. too far out to worry about


    Turkey Pond Trail has 3 trees down.
    Latitude 37.164562° N
    Longitude 121.401952° W

    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ORUjVr-aBks-mARxDY2azA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0FKyvIjFoJY/TdldMqPP_AI/AAAAAAAAk0A/QNUuAPpi_JQ/s800/P1030873.JPG" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/patrick.herlihy/HenryCoeParadiseLakeRobisonCreekMay2011?authuser=0 &feat=embedwebsite">Henry Coe (Paradise Lake, Robison Creek) - May 2011</a></td></tr></table>

    The Cross Canyon Wall would be much better if this tree was removed (the top one)
    Latitude 37.139011° N
    Longitude 121.447090° W

    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/vVWk4zEZm7UxTH616bJByA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-19F0nBWgIA0/TokNSSkMZjI/AAAAAAAAmYY/XOi_T8X6a-4/s800/P1040661.JPG" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/patrick.herlihy/HenryCoeEverestChallengeOct2011?authuser=0&feat=em bedwebsite">Henry Coe Everest Challenge - Oct 2011</a></td></tr></table>

    So many more... I have a habit of taking photos of downed trees in case they would be useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ratpick View Post
    All my photos are geotagged.
    How? This is the first really compelling reason to get a GPS, IMO. I'm not fast enough for KOM and I've only been lost once. In that case a compass would have worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddy View Post
    How? This is the first really compelling reason to get a GPS, IMO. I'm not fast enough for KOM and I've only been lost once. In that case a compass would have worked.
    My camera doesn't geotag but it's a fairly quick process to add later:
    - make sure the clock on my camera is close to GPS time (or know the difference and adjust later)
    - upload photos from my camera to PC
    - upload GPS track from Garmin (I use SportTracks)
    - export GPX track from SportTracks (could use mtbguru or Ascend or something else for this)
    - use geosetter to do the actual geotagging
    - geosetter adds a location description into the image's metadata which makes searching later easy (I usually change the local setting to "Henry Coe State Park" or wherever I'm riding).

    If you only want to geotag, all you need is a GPS logger and you can get those fairly cheaply. There are some memory cards that will geotag, but only if near a wifi network and last I checked, there aren't many of those out on trails!

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    GPS enabled cameras...

    Quote Originally Posted by ratpick View Post
    My camera doesn't geotag but it's a fairly quick process to add later:
    - make sure the clock on my camera is close to GPS time (or know the difference and adjust later)
    - upload photos from my camera to PC
    - upload GPS track from Garmin (I use SportTracks)
    - export GPX track from SportTracks (could use mtbguru or Ascend or something else for this)
    - use geosetter to do the actual geotagging
    - geosetter adds a location description into the image's metadata which makes searching later easy (I usually change the local setting to "Henry Coe State Park" or wherever I'm riding).

    If you only want to geotag, all you need is a GPS logger and you can get those fairly cheaply. There are some memory cards that will geotag, but only if near a wifi network and last I checked, there aren't many of those out on trails!
    Ratpick, keep doing it the way you are!

    A few months back I bought and higher-end Sony point-and-shoot with GPS and found out that it's not well suited for this kind of an assignment. It takes too long in most circumstances for the GPS to find enough satellites for an accurate position report. The camera can be forced to stay on so the GPS will track from photo to photo but this sucks down the batteries.

    Some of the newer smartphones might work pretty well but there's still apparently the battery issue when GPS tracking.

    I usually just use Google Earth to visually locate the photos using the placemark tool; this is usually close enough. We're not targeting cruise missiles here!

    Anyway, keep those photos coming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pliebenberg View Post
    I usually just use Google Earth to visually locate the photos using the placemark tool; this is usually close enough. We're not targeting cruise missiles here!
    Yea, but it must take forever. His method will tag them all, even the ones I don't want to spend time editing, etc because they are crappy. I'd still like them tagged for future usage.

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    iPhone and Android phone cameras will deliver crappy photos but they will be automatically geotagged, hassle-free... so digging up the cellphone when seeing a down tree may be the simplest.

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    Hi Paul

    Here’s what I got…


    Domino Pond 50’ from Rock Tower







    You already have this one: Cross Canyon Trail on the descent from Coit Road:



    Add a 24” diameter Pine 50’ from Millias, and a 24” Oak mid-way up the climb to Willow Ridge Road (a go-around is pretty established here). No pics, sorry.



    Ridge Trail 50’ from Pacheco Ridge Road







    Ridge Trail 50’ from Pacheco Creek Trail





    Kelly Cabin Canyon Trail 500’ from Coit Road:





    Timm Trail 50’ from Final Exit:







    Spur trail off of Live Oak Spring Trail, out about a mile...





    A couple more without photos

    24” Pine across the Rose Dam Trail 50’ from Pacheco Creek Trail.

    Jackass Trail, many, many 24” fallen trees along the length of it.

    Good luck with this...
    ///Charlie

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    [QUOTE=Skyline35;8516188]Hi Paul

    Here’s what I got…


    Domino Pond 50’ from Rock Tower

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    or one of these

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    That tree is big, but it could be worse...like last Friday elsewhere in California:

    Video: Watch Two Giant Sequoia Trees Fall to the Ground | Outdoors | SoCal Wanderer | KCET


    As far as a few more downed trees in addition to the piles listed above - a ton on Live Oak Spring Road in the section below Live Oak Spring Trail (you can see them from the upper trail); a 12-18" or so midway down Vasquez Trail (but you can ride around off-trail about 20' right); a 6-8" one just past that one that you can ride over the tip; a 6" one about 1/3 mile up Vasquez Road from the bottom, easily dispatched with a small saw; a big older one at the junction of Vasquez Road and the unnamed road heading southeast, but it can be ridden around and driven around. Don't know if anyone ever got the big one (24"+) about 50 feet up Rat Spring trail from Pacheco Creek trail.

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    Tough Jobs Ahead!!!

    Trees fall. Sometimes they fall across a trail.

    Because shade is welcome, trails are sometimes routed through woodlands (lots of other reasons exist). Trails routed through chapparral require frequent brushing, and provide little shade. Trail routed through woodland provides shade, and frequent deadfall.

    Sunday 10/09/11 we finished off the tree on JDT. Knobular will provide some photos.

    After that activity, I rode up the JDT up to Willson Peak, and down Middle Steer Ridge. At the bottom just one tenth of a mile from the olde JDT junction there is a huge tree down. Bummer!

    Double bummer because I left my 13" Fiskar hand saw up on the JDT where I used it. I was able to carefully move enough of the (large amount consisting of 4 large limbs) collateral timber off by carefully levering off the timber piece by piece (like a game of 300# pick-up-sticks) and maneuvering the main trunk so that it is possible to walk over just one large trunk, without cross-country travel up or down slope from the obstruction.











    I added the tools I brought (30" bowsaw - mcleod -dhandle shovel - pick mattock - loppers - brace of 100 blue pin flags) to the gang box.

    The last four photos above are from this spring removing a tree fallen across the creekside section of Cross Canyon Trail with the Forest Knolls Freewheelers and ROMP (just thought I would share).

    Tree removal activities happen. If no one posts them on the internet, fewer see the work. Whatever.

    This is going to be an amazing thread on MTBR!!!

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    Taking out a big tree on JDT...
    Cut 1:
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2B-9jyCzoUIG7BM3Z6QCwQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W5gLww6TK1I/TpJkXnpokxI/AAAAAAAAEPA/eQ93tXPQloc/s640/P1040548.JPG" height="480" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/surlypeach/TreeTrimmingOnJDTOct92011?authuser=0&feat=embedweb site">Tree Trimming on JDT Oct-9-2011</a></td></tr></table>

    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/samy6RNK1J4MwIDYOIPi-g?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Ttspas9jyFE/TpJkZXuyZfI/AAAAAAAAEPE/_dmJq_sN7U0/s640/P1040557.JPG" height="480" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/surlypeach/TreeTrimmingOnJDTOct92011?authuser=0&feat=embedweb site">Tree Trimming on JDT Oct-9-2011</a></td></tr></table>

    Cut 2:
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/aK0ZHjaKJhxX4l34ty-QRw?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-fDVAqsJPiyU/TpJkcq0R-PI/AAAAAAAAEPM/62HPs47lpsw/s640/P1040577.JPG" height="640" width="480" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/surlypeach/TreeTrimmingOnJDTOct92011?authuser=0&feat=embedweb site">Tree Trimming on JDT Oct-9-2011</a></td></tr></table>

    Cut 3:
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dT4AVTYSpplbkvVPH_A6FA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-geCd6mdfHlY/TpJkgVCLazI/AAAAAAAAEPU/fDbB83MJwVc/s640/P1040610.JPG" height="640" width="480" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/surlypeach/TreeTrimmingOnJDTOct92011?authuser=0&feat=embedweb site">Tree Trimming on JDT Oct-9-2011</a></td></tr></table>

    All done:
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/8vsVrhePEcMaxpqWhOg8XQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4KWF4uOu58s/TpJkiht-npI/AAAAAAAAEPY/Ic4nhQKmWEw/s640/P1040620.JPG" height="480" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/surlypeach/TreeTrimmingOnJDTOct92011?authuser=0&feat=embedweb site">Tree Trimming on JDT Oct-9-2011</a></td></tr></table>

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    How many MTBers does it take...

    Whilst Sorcerer was taking care of business in the southern end of Henry Coe; several of us mountain-biking "newbie" Uniformed Volunteers were participating in the final stages of the "boot camp" training process. We were on the last march of the day when we came upon a pine that had fallen across the Willow Ridge Trail; clearing it was not part of the course but since most of us still had in our packs the small saws we usually carry while out on trail we thought we'd have a go at removing it. Here's the raw and un-cut video of the action:

    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Q9_RZhaoqHc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Besides myself holding the camera; MTBR regulars Diesel, Fast Eddie and plymmer were doing the hard work. Phil and Travis were also seen assisting in this operation; there are several other trainees in this year's class who are mountain biking regulars---we were probably the largest user group taking the training!
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    More Contest Rules (minor buzzkill)

    It's been pointed out to me that we shouldn't encourage Coe Park users to be doing potentially dangerous trail maintenance work such as removing large fallen trees unless proper protocols are being followed.

    Park policy stipulates that no work of this nature be performed until certain paperwork is signed by the volunteer and the work performed in the presence of either DPR staff or a Uniformed Volunteer. (Such as Sorcerer)

    This being the case "removal" points will only be awarded to those who remove trees in the above conditions. If you do something on your own godbless but it's best you don't share about it here. Use at your own risk blah blah blah...

    We're mostly after those fallen tree locations in this contest, getting the trails cleared is the "icing on the cake"

    Here's another short video from last weekend; besides plymmer and Fast Eddie there's an extremely rare sighting of DustyBrown:
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    Here's an old vid but a good one... from Plymmer and Sorcerer's "Barney Purple" phase:
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    "Plan C"

    If removing fallen trees the way we've been doing it is "Plan A" (by using hand saws) and "Plan B" is by informing the DPR so they can use their chainsaws then this video shows the technique of doing as little hand-sawing as possible and then winching the main portions off the trail:
    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KKare7q3zBA?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    This is the tree near the bottom of Middle Steer Ridge Trail as reported by Sorcerer. This was my first attempt using this method; I tried pulling the tree in the "wrong" direction (broken limbs digging in but a shorter pull) on purpose and the tree would not budge until I took off some weight by cutting off a couple more limbs. Had I pulled it in the other direction I'm fairly confident that I wouldn't have had to resort to using the saw but I would have had a longer pull (and needed to reset the hoist).

    Another beautiful fall day at Henry Coe!
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    Phegley, top of the single track section

    LocoYokel reported this last year I think.

    A narrow volunteer trail is well worn in below the tree now. It may damage the tree roots it skirts around eventually, so something will be done eventually.



    The photo is from Weds, 10/12.

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    Adding...

    Elderberry Trail:





    Creekside Trail:



    .kmz attached.



    Roy found a Coe spyglass for spotting fallen trees:







    Question: is there a prescribed burn scheduled for the Hobbs Road/Middle Ridge Trail
    area? Yesterday I saw what looked like preparations for one.





    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    Roy found a Coe spyglass for spotting fallen trees:
    Sven? Is dat you? (Obligatory cultural reference: Swedish Bookstore - YouTube)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35
    Question: is there a prescribed burn scheduled for the Hobbs Road/Middle Ridge Trail
    area? Yesterday I saw what looked like preparations for one.







    Thanks,
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    Answer from the San Jose Mercury News:

    Henry Coe State Park to undergo prescribed burn

    Bay City News Service
    Posted: 10/16/2011 12:39:34 PM PDT
    Updated: 10/16/2011 12:39:36 PM PDT

    MORGAN HILL -- Henry Coe State Park will be the site of a prescribed burn on Monday
    and Tuesday, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said Saturday.

    The "Western Zone Complex" prescribed burn will take place -- pending weather
    conditions and approval from the Bay Area Air Quality District -- on Middle Ridge Trail
    off of Hobbs Road, approximately eight miles northeast of Morgan Hill, CAL FIRE said.

    Prescribed burns have been performed for decades and carry many benefits for public
    and natural resources, including watershed improvement, enhanced wildlife habitat and
    protection against large, damaging wildland fires, according to CAL FIRE.

    Fire personnel said smoke would be visible from most Bay Area counties and possibly
    from Interstate Highway 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    Hi Paul

    Here’s what I got…



    Timm Trail 50’ from Final Exit:




    ///Charlie
    Not completely removed but should be fine for hikers/bikers/horses:
    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6YKft2Ww35I?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    This tree was one of the first brought to my attention earlier; thought it should be one of the first to be cleared.
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    A Little Off Topic...

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    Question: is there a prescribed burn scheduled for the Hobbs Road/Middle Ridge Trail
    area? Yesterday I saw what looked like preparations for one.





    Thanks,
    ///Charlie
    Here's what today's burn looked like from Steer Ridge near the JDT intersection:
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    The high point of Pine Ridge is on the horizon to the left; I think the ridge with Manzanita Point is the one in front of the smoke.


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    Wider angle view from same place on Steer Ridge; near ridge is Spike Jones, then Wasno Ridge (Jackson Field is the grassy area on right horizon). If one squints the high point of the Cullen Trail can just be seen in the center of the photo.

    In the radio chatter today I heard the DPR talking about "meet back at drop point 2".
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    Don't tempt Sorcerer...

    Tree removal; Sorcerer-style:
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    Timm Trail Tree Two

    I'm not sure when this tree went down; it's not too far south of the other tree down on Timm reported by Skyline35:
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    This tree isn't the impediment the other tree was; a smaller rider with skills could probably get under it without dismounting---I needed to walk it though.

    I won't be lobbying for its quick removal; horses can get around by going off trail to the uphill side---this tree might be a good excuse for a minor trail re-route.

    In other news, it looks like Skyline35 will be the winner of the inaugural "Pliny's Tree Down" contest. Ratpick is a close second. Prizes to be awarded at this Saturday's TWD on the Jim Donnelly Trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    Elderberry Trail:




    ///Charlie
    That tree on Elderberry is gone. Shiloh and I took care of it.

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    Jackass Trail

    DPR's Eric G and I had a go at clearing the Lick Fire dead-fall from the Jackass Trail:

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    This was the first major tree down coming in from the north (visible from outer space in Google Earth!); it was a ponderosa pine about 3' in diameter.

    We cleared the trail only about halfway down; the 2 vehicle shuttle didn't materialize so our hoped-for down the trail and out plan will have to wait for the next time. The trail has taken on a new character since the fire; the route now follows the path of least resistance as it winds it way through openings in the dead-fall making for a more circuitous route; an improvement IMHO!
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    Awesome work, guys! It is amazing how more and more trees continued to fall on Jackass, even years after the fire. It seemed like the rate of deadfall picked up as burned trees finally gave up the ghost.

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    Problem Solved...

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    Creekside Trail:




    ///Charlie
    On my way back from checking out the MRT "situation" I figured I should have a look at this tree down on Creekside Trail before committing to get the DPR's Eric G in there with a chainsaw.

    I'm glad I did because this tree doesn't need removal at all; there's enough room (3') between the trunk and the stump to route the trail. The DPR Trails Handbook suggests that if possible in the case of large fallen trees the trail should be relocated rather than the tree being removed. (A fallen tree being an act of nature)

    Still could use a little work with a McLeod:
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    Kelly Cabin Canyon Trail

    The two nearest trees have been cleared for a while:



    ^ May 7, 2011



    …and on Saturday, locoyokel, Eric S., and I cleared the remaining two trees in
    the background (dead center in the photo). Greg did most of the sawing; once
    cut, it was a simple matter to roll it off the side of the trail:





    Voilà!





    Kelly Cabin Canyon Trail is now clear end-to-end and in the best shape since Fall 2010.
    You guys riding through on Monday, enjoy!

    ///Charlie

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    Nice work!

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    The two nearest trees have been cleared for a while:



    ^ May 7, 2011



    …and on Saturday, locoyokel, Eric S., and I cleared the remaining two trees in
    the background (dead center in the photo). Greg did most of the sawing; once
    cut, it was a simple matter to roll it off the side of the trail:





    Voilà!





    Kelly Cabin Canyon Trail is now clear end-to-end and in the best shape since Fall 2010.
    You guys riding through on Monday, enjoy!

    ///Charlie
    Is that large oak still blocking Cross Canyon Tr between KCCT and Willow Ridge Rd? (Cross Canyon "East")
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    Except for that one tree that has an easy ride-a-round (the ride-a-round is still on the roadbed, tiny uphill past the roots of the downed tree), no trees blocking Cross Canyon east above KCC. That's the way Charlie & I went, don't know if that huge oak tree is still blocking Cross Canyon near George Milias (I assume it must be unless someone hauled in a chainsaw).

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    Cross Canyon Cleared...

    ...by the CMBP; this tree has been on the "list" for several months now:
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    Anthony, Paul (Sorcerer), Jim (Zener), Philip, Roy (plymmer) take turns sawing the oak that was blocking the east portion of Coe's Cross Canyon Trail (between Milias and Kelly Cabin Canyon trails)

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    This started out as an informal Coe Mountain Bike Patrol "Start the New Year at Coe" ride lead by Sorcerer; we were originally only going to inspect and make plans for removing this tree at a later date---but with 7 eager lads and one strong lady the tree was quickly dispatched.

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    Being a Patrol member isn't all glory; here Philip describes to Sorcerer his technique for removing soiled toilet paper fouling a campsite (yes really!). Some Coe visitors are disgusting; they crapped 10 paces from the campsite. (Too far to walk to the restroom???) Other members had just decommissioned a fire ring while at our stop at Kelly Lake. (a no campfires ever zone)

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    Lunch on the KCCT; Eric, Roy, Jim, Philip, Paul and Chris enjoy the gorgeous (and unseasonable!) weather. A few yards behind where I was standing as I took this picture there was still ice in the creek.

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    A token bikes being ridden picture; my photos don't show it but most of the time was spent "in the saddle"---as the ride proceeded we broke into several groups and rejoined at common landmarks. Here Anthony, Eric and Jim approach the intersection of Wagon and Wasno roads.

    There should be some video of the tree removal and etc; hopefully it will get posted here later.
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    Good job! Thanks!!!

    Especially Philip, the scene at Kelly Lake was very disgusting. Sadly, they also camped at Coit Lake.

    ///Charlie

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    Nice Work on the tree! One week its there next week its gone!

    The toilet paper truly was disheartening

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    Sunday 1/8/12 Domino Pond Activity

    Henry W. Coe State Park Adventures again.

    Saturday was great. Pliebenberg split off after the East Cross Canyon tree removal and went back another way. The rest of us decided to return via Cross Canyon West where there was another large, but not as large oak across the trail, which we removed. Pictures later I expect. Yes there is a low hanging pine towards the bottom still, but we didn't stop to cut that one down (you hardly even notice it on a bike if you're average sized). Saturday was a great day. All of us seemed to have commitments that evening, so somehow we managed to get back to HH by 4pm. That's amazing.

    Sunday Super-Stoker and some girl friends wanted to ride in Coe so I hitched a ride and started out with them, and after Anza I split off up the Grapevine to head directly to the Domino Pond tree site to begin working on the reroute. Later the girls would come and scoop me up on the way back.

    First I stopped on the Grapevine at the place where the trail goes under a large fallen oak tree. A couple of years ago this tree fell across the trail and our solution was a short reroute which involved actually going under one of the main tree trunk limbs. At the time the trunk section was about 14 feet above the reroute. That tree is settling and rotting, and has subsided nearly four feet I reckon. It's to be expected, and in a couple of years something will have to happen. Meantime on our return descending the Grapevine on Saturday I again noticed that one of the branches was dangerously encroaching the trail due to the settling of the slowly rotting tree. Hence I made a quick stop to saw off this piece.

    Before:


    After:


    Yes I tied on some pink ribbon garbage on it. In all it wasn't really a huge hazard, but I really could see a cyclist clipping a left wing on that piece I took out.

    The tree across Domino Pond Trail:


    That tree is a magnificent specimen. It is too big to remove. It is also something to see. The DPR guidelines advise a reroute. Going below the original trail grade is not sustainable due to the fact that it is a riparian drainage area prone to being a swamp etc. Therefore the reroute must go above the wreckage. Previous recon identified the route, dictated by best
    practice and topography. This is a straight forward job.

    My girl friends:


    My quiver:


    Here is a shot of most of the reroute area at the conclusion of the 3 solid hours I put in actually working on the reroute. It's hard to see in this photo (I know) but there are blue flags marking the contouring alignment. The job is not finished.


    Tree section before:


    Tree section after:


    The reroute is usable as is, and I fully expect it to be readily adopted. The west end was not linked properly to the trail yet. The main thing left to do is to properly bench and shape the tread. The west end, towards Cattle Duster, will go under an oak tree. The blue flagging is very obvious and advertises the new route.
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    More Photos from 1/7-1/8/2012

    Saturday Plymmer spotted something balloon-like and came back with a clutch of them.


    We counted 14 balloons! I am astonished.


    Not to be outdone, Pliebenberg responds with a gory offering of even more horrid ballons.


    Low clearance:
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    By the wicket.

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    Nice work on Cross Canyon, Sorcerer and crew. I saw the tree you removed just after I passed you guys on my way down into the canyon. I did happen to notice the branch hanging over the trail near the bottom and thought to myself, "This might be a problem on a horse."

    I missed the turnoff for Kelly Cabin Canyon and ended up climbing out on Cross Canyon East. I knew something was amiss when the trail continued to ascend the hillside. It turned out to be a good thing considering the mechanical I had.

    Hope to see you next weekend at trail work. I just checked the forecast and rain isn't predicted until the following Wednesday. Hopefully there will be lots of it.

    Travis

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    Quick sketch



    Blue is the new route. Yellow is the old route.

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    Saturday is on, yes? I've got an injury, but I can probably be somewhat helpful depending on the tasks...

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    Earth Shattering Trail Building

    Ed, yes, it's on for this Saturday and Sunday (1/14-1/15).

    Earth Shattering Trail Building

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    Blue line it is; props to Rogue Hoe

    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcerer View Post


    Blue is the new route. Yellow is the old route.
    The "Earth Shattering Trail Building" Sunday installment was much more mellow today on the Domino Pond Trail than it was on yesterday's JDT "clodfest"; here's a time lapse of the new route around the tree being benched:
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    Sorcerer and Marty (a MTBR lurker from so long ago I couldn't find his handle in the directory) are in green; I changed from yellow to brown as the day heated up. Incredible weather for mid-January!

    Maybe Marty can post with his MTBR stage name??? (Working with several cracked ribs a-healing he did a great job!)

    The dirt on this side of the park was so nice and soft all I needed was a Rogue Hoe to dig the section I was benching.

    <a href="http://s1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/Domino%20Pond%20Trail%20Tree%20RR%20ETC/?action=view&amp;current=IMG_1640.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/Domino%20Pond%20Trail%20Tree%20RR%20ETC/IMG_1640.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    Marty tries the new trail from its west end.

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    Marty has passed the stream crossing as Sorcerer changes out of his work boots into his riding shoes.

    <a href="http://s1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/Domino%20Pond%20Trail%20Tree%20RR%20ETC/?action=view&amp;current=IMG_1644.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/Domino%20Pond%20Trail%20Tree%20RR%20ETC/IMG_1644.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    Sorcerer westbound...

    <a href="http://s1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/Domino%20Pond%20Trail%20Tree%20RR%20ETC/?action=view&amp;current=IMG_1646.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/Domino%20Pond%20Trail%20Tree%20RR%20ETC/IMG_1646.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    ...and eastbound.

    <a href="http://s1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/Domino%20Pond%20Trail%20Tree%20RR%20ETC/?action=view&amp;current=IMG_1651.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/Domino%20Pond%20Trail%20Tree%20RR%20ETC/IMG_1651.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    The photo does not do justice to the 30% grade Sorcerer is pulling a tool-laden BOB up...

    <a href="http://s1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/Domino%20Pond%20Trail%20Tree%20RR%20ETC/?action=view&amp;current=IMG_1652.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1042.photobucket.com/albums/b426/pliebenberg/Henry%20W%20Coe/Domino%20Pond%20Trail%20Tree%20RR%20ETC/IMG_1652.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
    ...and he can manage a smile as he reaches the top of Domino! (His bike does have special "Coe" gearing FWIW!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pliebenberg View Post
    The "Earth Shattering Trail Building" Sunday installment was much more mellow today on the Domino Pond Trail than it was on yesterday's JDT "clodfest"....

    The dirt on this side of the park was so nice and soft all I needed was a Rogue Hoe to dig the section I was benching....
    Great work out there, guys! Though I must say, all the talk of the dirt being nice and soft is just plain mean...

    -D

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    At the intersection of Grapevine and Anza:





    A Park maintenance truck would easily be able to drive up Grapevine Road to here.

    ///Charlie

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    Also the crown on the tree landed on Grapevine road - so you really want to take Anza and not mess with trying to get down through the crown of the tree, and likewise you don't want to come up Grapevine road from Coit until someone has cleared the tree!

    Lots of poison oak encroaching on Grapevine, especially in the 100 foot section from the downed tree to the little pond.

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    Thanks...

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyline35 View Post
    At the intersection of Grapevine and Anza:

    A Park maintenance truck would easily be able to drive up Grapevine Road to here.

    ///Charlie
    ...Charlie and Greg; I've passed this along to the DPR.
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