• 04-05-2010
    breadly
    Nvdc! (napa Valley Dirt Classic!)
    Anyone else headed to Angwin this weekend for this "Classic" race?

    This was my first race ever last year and it's the one that really hooked me on nor-cal xc racing.

    As a true "beginner" I logged a miserable time of almost 3 hours last year. After a year of racing and training i'm headed back for sport class and hope to trim about 45 minutes off of that time....

    Looks like the weather will be nice and the trail should be dust free - I'm having a hard time controlling my excitement!

    -B
  • 04-05-2010
    jdubsl2
    I'll be there! :thumbsup:
  • 04-05-2010
    Brewtality
    Hell Ya!!
    After a piss poor showing at Boggs, I'm ready to stomp on the competition at NVDC:arf:

    Remember to bring some Technu and shower stuff. The trails in Angwin are solid PO right now. The showers at the college gym are open to the racers after the race which helps out with preventing massive PO breakouts.
  • 04-05-2010
    iRoNeTiK
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rsquared28
    Hell Ya!!
    After a piss poor showing at Boggs, I'm ready to stomp on the competition at NVDC:arf:

    Remember to bring some Technu and shower stuff. The trails in Angwin are solid PO right now. The showers at the college gym are open to the racers after the race which helps out with preventing massive PO breakouts.

    I will bring my Ivy Block and Technu and shower stuff, good to know, thanks!

    The weather looks to be good for the rest of the week, give the ground a chance to dry up :thumbsup:

    I did it last year (1st time) and came in at 2 hours 15 minutes which placed me 14th out of 30th in Beginner. I'm doing sport this year 19-34, competition will be harder!

    I bombed out on the last hill, I guess I didnt pace myself too well. Oh well, I'm going to attack it like I did last year and hope I'm in better shape so I can go up that damn hill or most of it at least ;)
  • 04-05-2010
    Brewtality
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iRoNeTiK
    I did it last year (1st time) and came in at 2 hours 15 minutes which placed me 14th out of 30th in Beginner. I'm doing sport this year 19-34, competition will be harder!
    ;)

    A lot harder. NVDC is one of the few area races that is NORBA sanctioned. Not many of us carry annual licenses and NORBA does not allow one-day Expert licenses, so the CAT 2 Sport ranks are filled with CAT 1 Expert racers.:madman: Makes it real hard for those of us that are true CAT 2 Sport racers to reach the podium.:rolleyes:
  • 04-05-2010
    jibmaster
    I'm frantically planting as much PO as possible. I've got a strain that cannot be stopped.
    It will grow vines that will grab and latch on to your front wheel and cause massive endos.
























    It's a joke! Relax!
  • 04-05-2010
    iheartbicycles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rsquared28
    A lot harder. NVDC is one of the few area races that is NORBA sanctioned. Not many of us carry annual licenses and NORBA does not allow one-day Expert licenses, so the CAT 2 Sport ranks are filled with CAT 1 Expert racers.:madman: Makes it real hard for those of us that are true CAT 2 Sport racers to reach the podium.:rolleyes:

    Thanks for the excuse!
  • 04-05-2010
    12to29
    Is it the EXACT same course every year???
  • 04-06-2010
    Brewtality
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 12to29
    Is it the EXACT same course every year???

    I don't think its exactly the same, but the basics remain. Climb up to the airport, a couple of high speed straight aways, a bunch of sweet singletrack, a lot of climbing, a super steep, sandy drop down into Pope Valley, a super steep climb out of Pope Valley, the big whoops section, then a high speed decent back to the college:thumbsup:
  • 04-06-2010
    mtnmark
    Anyone know the vertical feet for the race? Trying to mentally prepare....
  • 04-06-2010
    Wrong Tim
    Last year my computer clocked 3275 feet climbing. Alot of that comes in one chunk, unfortunately.
  • 04-06-2010
    iRoNeTiK
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wrong Tim
    Last year my computer clocked 3275 feet climbing. Alot of that comes in one chunk, unfortunately.

    yah and near the end when I'm more tired :D put it in the middle!
  • 04-06-2010
    merlin
    I will be there with a bunch of my teamates, all racing Cat 1 .....First race on my new bike :thumbsup:
  • 04-06-2010
    maleonardphi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rsquared28
    A lot harder. NVDC is one of the few area races that is NORBA sanctioned. Not many of us carry annual licenses and NORBA does not allow one-day Expert licenses, so the CAT 2 Sport ranks are filled with CAT 1 Expert racers.:madman: Makes it real hard for those of us that are true CAT 2 Sport racers to reach the podium.:rolleyes:

    Thats why I upgraded to Cat 1, to avoid the sandbaggers ;) But what sucked about expert/cat1 last year was that they eliminated the semi pro category. So those guys had the option of a free upgrade to pro, or could drop back down to expert/cat1. So I think all around, having one less category makes every category tougher.
  • 04-07-2010
    NoBalance
    Definitely going to be there. However, I am not seeing the point in actually RIDING up the big long climb out of the valley. Its more relaxing to just walk up the hill with everyone else.
  • 04-07-2010
    sparkie
    I will be walking my SS out of the valley ;)
  • 04-08-2010
    tamjam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sparkie
    I will be walking my SS out of the valley ;)

    That makes two of us :D !
  • 04-08-2010
    iheartbicycles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tamjam
    That makes two of us :D !

    I haven't done this race since it was called the Napa Knobular (1997'ish) - so my memory is a bit fuzzy.

    How far in is the big climb?

    Anyone got GPS tracks?
  • 04-08-2010
    tamjam
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iheartbicycles
    How far in is the big climb?

    I haven't done the race since 2006, but as I recall, it's basically at the end. On SS it's unrideable, at least for me. So once you get to the point in the climb where you can actually start turning the cranks again, there is a short, sucky bit of climbing left, and then it's all downhill from there to the finish (basically re-tracing the starting climb up to the airport). If I am mis-remembering, someone please feel free to correct me.
  • 04-08-2010
    Jski1911
    Hey Jibmaster
    Jibmaster,
    How muddy will it be up there after a week of sunshine but relatively cool spring temps?
  • 04-08-2010
    NoBalance
    Here's my record of the race from last year ... beginner category with a 15 minute chain fix thrown in! Its pretty much the same course every year.

    <iframe width='465' height='548' frameborder='0' src='http://connect.garmin.com:80/activity/embed/19038293'></iframe>
  • 04-08-2010
    jibmaster
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jski1911
    Jibmaster,
    How muddy will it be up there after a week of sunshine but relatively cool spring temps?

    Conditions will be perfect.
  • 04-08-2010
    merlin
    Forecast is for rain Sunday :rolleyes:
  • 04-08-2010
    iheartbicycles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by merlin
    Forecast is for rain Sunday :rolleyes:

    good thing the race is on sunday!
  • 04-08-2010
    tgoff
    http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/forecast/wxt...58&lon=-122.45

    NOAA is forecasting 1.92" of rain for all of Sunday. I hope that is not correct otherwise it will be wet and wild.
  • 04-08-2010
    marty crosley
    Anyone race here in the rain ? Just want to know what tires to have ready....thanks
  • 04-08-2010
    Brewtality
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marty crosley
    Anyone race here in the rain ? Just want to know what tires to have ready....thanks


    Black rubber with knobbies, filled with air. :D
  • 04-08-2010
    marty crosley
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rsquared28
    Black rubber with knobbies, filled with air. :D

    No I didn't ask what came on your Mongoose from Walmart. I wanted to know if this course that I have not been to needs a true mud tire if it rains. Does that help ?
  • 04-08-2010
    bhylee
    nvdc
    hey guys, I've been riding the race route all week, and the trail is looking super sweet! There still a bunch of mud/water on the lower loop and sand hill is deeply rutted. Unfortunately, its supposed to rain sat night/sunday morning-so get ready for some mud. See y'all here on Sunday!
  • 04-09-2010
    ziscwg
    I cant afford to go to this race.





    It's too close to some of my fav wineries. It would be a $500 race day.
  • 04-09-2010
    ziscwg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marty crosley
    Anyone race here in the rain ? Just want to know what tires to have ready....thanks

    If it's muddy, nothing too fat. 2.0 or thinner with nice sticky rubber and wide spaced nobs. A Kenda small block 8 is a BAD choice. You want it to slice into the mud, not float on top of it. Then you need the sticky rubber to grip any wet roots or rocks.
  • 04-09-2010
    iRoNeTiK
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ziscwg
    If it's muddy, nothing too fat. 2.0 or thinner with nice sticky rubber and wide spaced nobs. A Kenda small block 8 is a BAD choice. You want it to slice into the mud, not float on top of it. Then you need the sticky rubber to grip any wet roots or rocks.

    I got SM8 on the rear and too lazy to change tires :nono:

    I ran Nevegal 2.1 front and SM8 2.1 Rear at Boggs last weekend in the mud and it worked well, but wish me luck! :eek:
  • 04-09-2010
    ziscwg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iRoNeTiK
    I got SM8 on the rear and too lazy to change tires :nono:

    I ran Nevegal 2.1 front and SM8 2.1 Rear at Boggs last weekend in the mud and it worked well, but wish me luck! :eek:

    that climb at the end could be "fun" with a SB8 back there.
  • 04-09-2010
    iRoNeTiK
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ziscwg
    that climb at the end could be "fun" with a SB8 back there.

    Yeah "fun," if we had motors we could remove the "" around fun :D

    Last year, I was on a HT and Panaracer XC Pro's, but I had mechanical issues and couldn't shift all the way down to the lowest granny, so a goal of mine this year is to make it up all (or most) of the hill without stopping.

    For those who did Friends of Tamrancho race last year, remember that grueling uphill section? I barely made it up that up, some girl even pushed me up a part of it so I could keep going! I feel like the NVDC climb is very close to that grade but only longer! :rolleyes:

    Oh and it's time to go to REI and get a rear fender, I bought a SKS front fender for Boggs and it worked well, but I want to join the crowd of riders who spit dirt in peoples faces who are behind you ;)
  • 04-09-2010
    rensho
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ziscwg
    I cant afford to go to this race.

    It's too close to some of my fav wineries. It would be a $500 race day.

    +1, or more.
  • 04-09-2010
    MichiganMat
    Can anyone fit me into their carpool for Sunday?
  • 04-10-2010
    12to29
    Looks like it will probably be a muddy and sloppy with potential of 50 mph winds! I have never rode there in the rain but I am sure it could get nasty.
  • 04-11-2010
    mudworm
    Lost Bike Seat Bag with keys inside
    If anyone found a bike seat bag with keys inside of it please call
    edit: keys found. At home heater on.
    Post by cold, wet and hungry
    Thank you
  • 04-11-2010
    Wrong Tim
    That was hard.
  • 04-11-2010
    NoBalance
    Yeah, all over the place. Did Boggs 5 just get owned?
  • 04-11-2010
    tamjam
    Hardest race ever. Mud coming out of every orifice. Missed my start. Never caught up to the 14 other Cat 2 Single Speeds so achieved my first DFL, by default. So glad I did it. Sea Otter will be a cake walk next weekend!
  • 04-11-2010
    breadly
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wrong Tim
    That was hard.

    Understatement.
  • 04-11-2010
    tomass15
    And we thought Cool was muddy this year, today put mud race at a new level! Great racing with all you out there today who braved the elements!
  • 04-11-2010
    marty crosley
    That was so much fun. Trusting my WTB's all day. What about those mud slide downhills. Epic. Mud blind all day. Hope for a dryer Sea Otter. If anyone has photos please post or a link because it's hard to describe that much MUD !!!!!!!
  • 04-11-2010
    dognaught
    Borrowed Mini-Tool
    That was rough. What a mess. My derailer hanger broke off just before the big climb and I had to hike out. Of course, with all that mud, pretty much everyone had to hike up the big climb. :rolleyes:

    To the guy that gave me his mimi-tool so I could yank off my chain and derailer.... send me an email and I'll get that back to you. Thanks so much for that! Love the good will out there today.

    chrisk (at) vidog (dot) com
    Team Sheila Moon
  • 04-11-2010
    Passenger13
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NoBalance
    Yeah, all over the place. Did Boggs 5 just get owned?

    Sounds like it did. The ONLY saving grace from Boggs was that it didn't rain (only a short hail shower)! I stayed home, watched the Masters, Paris-Roubaix and the Giants game. To all those who raced today, way to "harden the f*ck up. Ronnie Johns would be proud :thumbsup:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIV...eature=related
  • 04-11-2010
    jdubsl2
    Everyone who raced today is top notch in my book. Way to tough out the elements! You all rock!

    Overall, I had an excellent race. Once you embraced the rain and the mud, it was a great time. I hardly noticed the 'poor conditions' once my blood got pumping. It didn't take long for the Curse of Chainsuck to kick in, but I kept it under control and didn't snap my chain. Big ol' Kenda Nevegals worked out well for this one! I noticed a few people having a hard time out there with less aggressive tires.

    This was my first Napa Valley Mud Fest and definitely not the last! I heard there's a "dirt classic" next year?

    I finished in 2hr12min for 5th (of 15) in 19-34 sport.

    So. F'in. Fun. :thumbsup:

    Thanks, Carmen for capturing the aftermath of this most muddy day.



  • 04-11-2010
    lars@thc
    Hard as nails!!
    That's what all you rippers are who raced today! I was in Napa for a wedding think'n how close I was to my favorite xc race, yet so far... Spoke with an older rider at the wedding who owns two Ottis Guy's,,,

    ,,,then I'm driving through St.Helena in the pissing rain and what do I see on the roof of a Suby? A sweet Ottis Guy, muddy as all hell, brown number plate. Damn.... Nice ride to whomever drove solo to race on that v-braked classic!

    Can't even begin to think about how brutal that climb outta the hole was... oh, wait, I've been in there on a very similar day to today! Stupid fun.
  • 04-11-2010
    mudworm
    If anyone has pictures, please post up links. I'm especially interested in seeing #247. ;)

    Well, what can I say -- mudworm finally got to play in the mud. Total immersion style, head to toe and inside 'n out. I was one of those lucky ones who finished the ride safe and sound with a big smile though. A plastic grocery bag outside of my helmet and a free oversized plastic poncho (got it from last year's Death Ride) kept my head and core dry, which turned a would-have-been-miserable ride into a just-a-bit-uncomfortable ride.

    My real ordeal started after the ride though when I found out that my saddlebag was gone with all my keys inside, so I couldn't get in the car and couldn't buy any food or beverage. Dripping mud, I stood in the shower in my riding gear and then waited through the entire awards ceremony hoping someone had picked it up and turned it in. Eventually, the course sweep came back without good news for me. By then, despite having a towel and a fashionable blouse donated by two kind ladies, I was shivering uncontrollably. The race organizer, Michael's wife and two beautiful daughters took me into their house, put dry clothes on me and fed me with the best soup I had ever had in my life. I gradually thawed.

    Oh, that earlier message was posted by my hubby from my computer before he started to drive north with a valet key to my car (and later he edited it to remove his phone number). In the mean time, Michael and one of his daughters went back out on the course to start taking down the signs.

    My luck then suddenly turned. Michael phoned home saying they found my saddlebag right at that first Wall. I must had lost it by the end because I was able to hear my keys rattling inside for the most of my ride. It turned out that the entire clip broke from my bag probably just from the constant vibrations. That was the first and last use of that ToePeak bag. Lesson learned: always keep the essential stuff on your body when riding.

    This is my first NVDC ride. 2:52 on my GPS, which I stopped a couple minutes after passing the finish, placing me 2nd in my Sport age group. I guess I'll have to come back to do it on a nicer day to see another side of the area. One guy commented that he had been racing NVDC since 1994 and this is the worst ever condition, so there is hope.

    Kudos to everyone who finished the race and I'm sorry for anyone who could not finish due to mishaps (mechanical or physical). Thanks everyone who helped me when I was feeling miserable, especially Michael's family! You all are such beautiful people! :thumbsup:

    P.S. Once I finish with my full report (bike and tire talk), I'll post up the link here.
  • 04-12-2010
    Wrong Tim
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jdubsl2
    Everyone who raced today is top notch in my book. Way to tough out the elements! You all rock!

    Overall, I had an excellent race. Once you embraced the rain and the mud, it was a great time. I hardly noticed the 'poor conditions' once my blood got pumping. It didn't take long for the Curse of Chainsuck to kick in, but I kept it under control and didn't snap my chain. Big ol' Kenda Nevegals worked out well for this one! I noticed a few people having a hard time out there with less aggressive tires.

    This was my first Napa Valley Mud Fest and definitely not the last! I heard there's a "dirt classic" next year?

    I finished in 2hr12min for 5th (of 15) in 19-34 sport.

    So. F'in. Fun. :thumbsup:

    Thanks, Carmen for capturing the aftermath of this most muddy day.





    You sure you were there? You look a little too clean to me.