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    Hey Tinercom,
    I don't think that any of this crew is into steroids. I did have four Pale Ales and four slices of Pizza last night = 7:51 on B Trail this morning ( good carbs )
    Hope to see you out there Tiner ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by marty crosley
    Hey Tinercom,
    I don't think that any of this crew is into steroids. I did have four Pale Ales and four slices of Pizza last night = 7:51 on B Trail this morning ( good carbs )
    Hope to see you out there Tiner ...
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    Just want to clarify, I was joking about steroids. One look at Lowell Moural would tell you there are no steroids involved. So Marty, the secret is to drink a bunch of Pale Ale the night before? I'm gonna try it.

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    Sorry Tiner .. Little slow sometimes on the dry humor. Yea you know Lowell has a 7:20 but he will kill that soon. Don't know if he will have to wait for the Carbon Nomad to show up first but we know he will be in the 6's. Yea Pale Ale should do the trick... Ha Steroids I thought you were serious ....



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    Quote Originally Posted by marty crosley
    Sorry Tiner .. Little slow sometimes on the dry humor. Yea you know Lowell has a 7:20 but he will kill that soon. Don't know if he will have to wait for the Carbon Nomad to show up first but we know he will be in the 6's. Yea Pale Ale should do the trick... Ha Steroids I thought you were serious ....



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    Ok, Marty, I'm not gonna say my time, it was not even close to yours. It was light years from Nicks. I went over the bars once but all in all I put in a decent run for me. I lose tons of time on the brief uphill sections. I have tons of respect for anybody who can do it in under 8:00. We should ride sometime.

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    A big THANKS to the trail gnomes who have done some nice trimming of the oak and various overgrowth.


    Upper Middle was especially nice this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelbolt
    A big THANKS to the trail gnomes who have done some nice trimming of the oak and various overgrowth.


    Upper Middle was especially nice this morning.
    You're welcome! I was up there last night for a night ride, and I'm sure my front wheel and shins contributed to the trimming. My buddies and I joked that we should strap a couple of weed eaters to our bikes the next time we go out. Upper part of South Rim is ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelbolt
    A big THANKS to the trail gnomes who have done some nice trimming of the oak and various overgrowth.


    Upper Middle was especially nice this morning.
    agreed, and a good reminder for me to take my clippers in my camelbak this weekend

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    Anyone shuttle Guardians regularly? I could use a lift up there more often and I'd chip in for gas or I can drive (only a 2 seater though, better for the return trip)

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    Mellow ride down middle



    rock wall at 9:10 mark

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    Very cool! Looks like you started the clip right after the two steep ravines after coming off B-trail? I want to see some footage from the big ravine right above Bear Hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing
    Very cool! Looks like you started the clip right after the two steep ravines after coming off B-trail? I want to see some footage from the big ravine right above Bear Hole.

    Yep. It was a mellow cruise... just up the road to B-trail/Middle intersection. There were several stops as I was messing with the cam, so I cut out that stuff and the uphill sections. Had to trim to under 10mins to make the youtube requirements.

    Just wanted to get something on tape for now. Hadn't seen anyone post vids of these sections yet, so I figured what the hell.

    Which "big ravine above Bear Hole"? North side or South?

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    ah, i meant below bear hole. As you're going up it's a pretty technical section just past the power lines on middle trail. Going down I do all right, but going up I've still had trouble cleaning the whole thing. Actually heading out tonight around 7:30 with a buddy, probably hit middle trail and that "other" trail up by devil's kitchen.

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    nickelbot...nice! (You guys suck for letting that jealousy be induced in me.)
    *Sadly, after riding there for 3 years all I'm thinking in the back of my head though is "tick? tick? tick? tick?" and not in the cool freewheel noise kind of way.
    I miss Bidwell...

    How bad are the goathead thorns anyhow? Trails are looking actually really nice despite the recent weather?

    A friend just moved up there and I'm cc'ing this thread to him. If anyone goes "Hey, I know Obi.. can you show me some trails" be nice to him.

    Obi..

    p.s. Melty, don't feel bad about the layoff, lots of us are there right now. Been back to school myself, earned another degree with the added funds to unenjoyment coming from a B.O.G. waiver and some grants. Give it a shot, free education is always good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing
    ah, i meant below bear hole. As you're going up it's a pretty technical section just past the power lines on middle trail. Going down I do all right, but going up I've still had trouble cleaning the whole thing. Actually heading out tonight around 7:30 with a buddy, probably hit middle trail and that "other" trail up by devil's kitchen.
    this one?



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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    this one?
    yeah, that's a tough one sometimes - I had a buddy of mine stall and fall into that drop-off/hole at the bottom - on his back; on some rocks.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    yeah, that's a tough one sometimes - I had a buddy of mine stall and fall into that drop-off/hole at the bottom - on his back; on some rocks.
    ouch. That's what hydration packs are for... they're body armor for the self-respecting xc riders who never wear such a thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    yeah, that's a tough one sometimes - I had a buddy of mine stall and fall into that drop-off/hole at the bottom - on his back; on some rocks.
    I did that once, when I first moved back to Chico and started riding again. It was one of the first times I ever rode while clipped in. On my way up Middle... got to the bottom of that toilet bowl... swung around right... and my front tire slammed into that little dip. I stalled, figured I was going over... so I clicked out (barely)... threw my bike as far left as I could... and then I slid down into the pit. My entire left side of my torso scaped along that cliff as I went in. That hurt. But I was more worried about the snakes that might be in there. So I got out, licked my wounds and finished the ride.

    since then I've learned to just keep pedaling when you're coming down and all the way through that spot. Stay focused on a spot about 20ft up the trail and keep pedaling no matter what.

    I used to call that spot 50/50. But now I'm pretty much 100% every time unless I have a mechanical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    yeah, that's a tough one sometimes - I had a buddy of mine stall and fall into that drop-off/hole at the bottom - on his back; on some rocks.
    Yep, that's the one. Last time I got to the very last hard part and then stalled out. My buddy fell right at the bottom, he landed on the trail, and his bike went over the side down the hill. Better than the other way around! So far I've been able to keep it sunny side up on that section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obionespeedonly
    nickelbot...nice! (You guys suck for letting that jealousy be induced in me.)
    *Sadly, after riding there for 3 years all I'm thinking in the back of my head though is "tick? tick? tick? tick?" and not in the cool freewheel noise kind of way.
    I miss Bidwell...

    How bad are the goathead thorns anyhow? Trails are looking actually really nice despite the recent weather?

    A friend just moved up there and I'm cc'ing this thread to him. If anyone goes "Hey, I know Obi.. can you show me some trails" be nice to him.

    Obi..

    p.s. Melty, don't feel bad about the layoff, lots of us are there right now. Been back to school myself, earned another degree with the added funds to unenjoyment coming from a B.O.G. waiver and some grants. Give it a shot, free education is always good.
    No ticks so far, and I've been riding some pretty overgrown trails; upper middle, B-trail, upper annie bidwell/south rim. Always good to check yourself afterwards (or have a good friend do it ). As far as goatheads, they are not quite hard enough yet to make it through the tires. Another 1-2 weeks and they will be though, so break out the slime or whatever, or just be very careful to stay on the main part of the trail.

    I picked up my first goathead flat last Saturday. BUT, I was riding a bit trashed and may or may not have stayed on the trail at some points. I blame the chico brew fest...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing
    Yep, that's the one. Last time I got to the very last hard part and then stalled out. My buddy fell right at the bottom, he landed on the trail, and his bike went over the side down the hill. Better than the other way around! So far I've been able to keep it sunny side up on that section.
    ^^^ That pic above sure doesn't do it justice huh...
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    ^^^ That pic above sure doesn't do it justice huh...
    Nope, not at all. It actually looks very rideable until you get into that toilet bowl and have the hard right hand turn. Too hot coming down and you can't make the turn, too slow and you don't have enough momentum to get out. I used to ride with a buddy that could do that no problem each time...but he could also ride up tennis ball hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing
    ...but he could also ride up tennis ball hill.
    I can barely ride down it!
    from my first attempt - I ended up with a tennis ball sized lump on my knee - how fitting


    to top it off, as I cleaned out my wound at nude beach, I noticed something glaringly missing
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelbolt
    Mellow ride down middle

    [awsome vid]Yeah[/awsome vid]

    rock wall at 9:10 mark

    First time using the $99 costco GoPro Hero.

    I need the chest mount for sure.
    Love it
    My family is having a reunion in Chico mid July. We'll be camping out at the Elks Lodge for a weekend and I want to take a few of the MTBers on the middle trail on that Saturday. Problem is most of them are flying in from out of state and can't bring their bikes. I can only bring two bikes with me. Is there a place in town that rents decent mt bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Being
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    My family is having a reunion in Chico mid July. We'll be camping out at the Elks Lodge for a weekend and I want to take a few of the MTBers on the middle trail on that Saturday. Problem is most of them are flying in from out of state and can't bring their bikes. I can only bring two bikes with me. Is there a place in town that rents decent mt bikes?
    North Rim Adventure Sports and Sports LTD rent bikes. Id call ahead and see what may be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Being
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    My family is having a reunion in Chico mid July. We'll be camping out at the Elks Lodge for a weekend and I want to take a few of the MTBers on the middle trail on that Saturday. Problem is most of them are flying in from out of state and can't bring their bikes. I can only bring two bikes with me. Is there a place in town that rents decent mt bikes?

    North Rim Adventure Sports usually has current year Trek and Fisher Demo bikes, you may want to call them soon to see what they have and reserve what you can.

    http://northrimadventure.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer33x
    North Rim Adventure Sports and Sports LTD rent bikes. Id call ahead and see what may be available.
    Quote Originally Posted by tomass15
    North Rim Adventure Sports usually has current year Trek and Fisher Demo bikes, you may want to call them soon to see what they have and reserve what you can.

    http://northrimadventure.com/
    Sweet! I'll give them a call.

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    Beautiful afternoon for a ride, esp when it works out so I'm coming back through when the sun is lower and the lighting is more dramatic.

    Here's to summer riding and refreshing creek crossings

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    Looks great boomn! I need to hit Guardians again, I've been sticking to the north side for the past few weeks except for one ride up and down Annie Bidwell/South Rim. I did some crazy forest rides up along deer creek this past weekend, and it was quite a difference between the rocky/dusty Upper Park trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    Beautiful afternoon for a ride, esp when it works out so I'm coming back through when the sun is lower and the lighting is more dramatic.

    Here's to summer riding and refreshing creek crossings

    On the SS too. Awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelbolt
    Mellow ride down middle

    [awsome vid]Yeah[/awsome vid]

    rock wall at 9:10 mark

    First time using the $99 costco GoPro Hero.

    I need the chest mount for sure.
    Ha ha. I linked my brother to this vid trying to convince him to do the ride with me during the family reunion I mentioned before. He doesn't tolerate poison oak at all. He said "Sure, I'm in...if you ride the wall." I told him I'd ride the wall if he'll wheely the wall. He said "Front wheel okay?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Being
    Ha ha. I linked my brother to this vid trying to convince him to do the ride with me during the family reunion I mentioned before. He doesn't tolerate poison oak at all. He said "Sure, I'm in...if you ride the wall." I told him I'd ride the wall if he'll wheely the wall. He said "Front wheel okay?"

    Lemme know when you're gonna do the wheelies and I'll film it.

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    Not sure if you guys use MTBR, but...

    ... a big thanks to Josh (on the Blur?) and Antone (Intense?) Met you guys on Guardians today. Good riding with you for a while and I appreciate the hookup on the pump. Would've sucked walking home. I owe you a beer. If you do use this site, post before you ride and I'll try to get out with ya some time.




    PS - Yes. Guardians needs some work. Or maybe I was just close to the bonk zone.

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    I haven't ridden Guardian's since the spring, but I did the North Rim/Middle Trail loop around noon today. HOLY hell that was hot! So what is messed up about Guardian's trail? It seemed pretty rough when I rode it, but no more than usual...is it getting trashed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing
    I haven't ridden Guardian's since the spring, but I did the North Rim/Middle Trail loop around noon today. HOLY hell that was hot! So what is messed up about Guardian's trail? It seemed pretty rough when I rode it, but no more than usual...is it getting trashed?
    Just felt like there were more blown corners than usual. But maybe it was my line choice that was bad. Or could have been that my front tire wasn't holding air by the mid-way point and I had to find out the hard way... then my pump took a crap... and my valve stem was jacked up...

    ... but other than that... had a great ride!

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    That was me (on the tracer). No one should get stuck out there w/ a flat in the heat; it was the least we could do... cheers. Just put my C02 kit back into the cambleback.

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    I'm going to hit Guardian's trail with a buddy tomorrow around 5:30-6:00pm. His GF is going to give us a shuttle to Green Gate and then we're going to take a quick trip down. Should be an interesting ride, and the first time I'll take the 29er HT down it. Anyone who wants to ride with us is welcome, neither of us are fast riders but we're not slow either.

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    Hey, been going to CSUC for the last year..finally found the funds to buy a bike that will let me actually go trailing, so expect to see me out there I've just explored and the only real trail I found was North Rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmogSUX
    Hey, been going to CSUC for the last year..finally found the funds to buy a bike that will let me actually go trailing, so expect to see me out there I've just explored and the only real trail I found was North Rim.
    Welcome to Bidwell. Let us know if you find any other real trails out there.

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    For trails in upper park check out this map: http://www.bcag.org/documents/transi...P_back_web.pdf

    Middle Trail all the way to where it hits the park road is a pretty good "tour of rock types" for Bidwell Park. You've got powdered dust, sand, sandstone, some weird chalky stuff, baby heads, tennis balls, boulders, lava cap, and some smooth hardpack. If you turn around at the top and come down Middle Trail it's a pretty fun ride. After riding Middle Trail almost to the end, you can jump onto Lower Trail, which has some pretty fun smooth singletrack and a few good technical spots. North Rim is a great trail after you get past the power lines, but below that I don't care for it...just a big rocky road, but it's a good workout.

    On the south side, definitely ride up and down Annie Bidwell (formerly known as South Rim). Guardian's trail is also a great ride, and is fun to shuttle if you don't care for punishing rocky climbs uphill. If you drive up Highway 32, on the right side of the highway about 10 miles up is "Ten Mile House Road". On the left side is a parking area and what's known as "Green Gate". You can ride the dirt road a short ways down to Guardian's trail, or go almost to the bottom and catch Annie Bidwell trail to ride back down. Guardian's is probably the most difficult trail in the park, but once you learn a few of the hard sections it really is a blast.

    I'm going to ride it tonight actually, getting a ride up there and will be at Green Gate around 6:15-6:30pm. I'll be there with 1-2 others if anyone wants to join. Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing
    For trails in upper park check out this map: ...
    and these
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    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Nice, thanks. I'm completely new to mountain biking. Usually jacked my mom's road bike for trips through the Buttes when I went home, but after finding out about all the trails here in Chico I want to start doing that WAY more.

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    Forget what I said about Guardian's previously. It's fine. It could use some love, but nothing major. I was just having a bad day last time I guess. That log across the trail at about midway section is not a great feature. Needs to be built up or removed.

    Went through Canyon Oaks-->Hike-a-bike'd it up to frisbee-->rode along 32 up to green gate-->Guardian's. Pretty stupid considering the heat @ 5pm... I suffered a bit. But once I was up top there was nothing else to do but complete the loop.

    Anyone got details on The Bump this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelbolt

    Anyone got details on The Bump this year?
    It will be in Upper Park...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aka AK
    That was me (on the tracer). No one should get stuck out there w/ a flat in the heat; it was the least we could do... cheers. Just put my C02 kit back into the cambleback.
    Well then let me say thanks again to ya.

    See you out there some time... or shoot me a PM and we can try to get out together.

    Gonna try for 6:30am on Sat. & Sun. mornings.

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    So are there any group rides scheduled, or did that fall apart? I'd be up for getting together once during the week in the evening and once in the morning on the weekends. Anybody interested?
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    santa cruz blur or nomad for upper park?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked0200
    santa cruz blur or nomad for upper park?
    Personally, I'd take the Nomad, but the Blur would do just fine too.
    There are people *cough*nut-jobs*cough* who ride SS rigid
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    oh really whys that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked0200
    oh really whys that?
    my self? or the nut-jobs?
    I like a big cushy bike - I'll suffer on the ups for the bombin DH

    Nut-jobs? Well, if you know upper-park - it's buuuumpy. It beats ya to hell - especially at speed.
    I know, I've ridden a few times with my rigid SS.

    (people call me a nut-job either way though )
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    my self? or the nut-jobs?
    I like a big cushy bike - I'll suffer on the ups for the bombin DH

    Nut-jobs? Well, if you know upper-park - it's buuuumpy. It beats ya to hell - especially at speed.
    I know, I've ridden a few times with my rigid SS.

    (people call me a nut-job either way though )
    When I started riding in the late 80's, all we had were fully rigid bikes. Now I'm on a 6" Commencal and I wonder how the hell we rode the park then. As far as the fully rigid SS goes, my friend Tim did a B trail time in the mid 7's on a fully rigid SS.

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    ahh i see. Well if anyone has a large nomad for sale let me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinercom
    When I started riding in the late 80's, all we had were fully rigid bikes. Now I'm on a 6" Commencal and I wonder how the hell we rode the park then. As far as the fully rigid SS goes, my friend Tim did a B trail time in the mid 7's on a fully rigid SS.
    I've read if you and others nutty-ness
    I've never timed myself, but I think 7mins sounds fast for me on my 6"
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    what bikes do you all ride in upper park?

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    I ride a GT Carbon force. 6in travel bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked0200
    what bikes do you all ride in upper park?
    I'm not riding anything at the moment(blown MCL, thanks Northstar). I recently sold my 29er singlespeed, but here's a pic anyway. I ride the white Commencal Meta 6 now.
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    Windsor Cliff 29er - pretty good bike for $700. I'm going to be swapping the parts from it over to a full suspension 29er frame this winter I think. I dunno, BD is supposed to come out with a new FS 29er bike so I may just buy a complete bike and keep the hardtail as a backup bike. It climbs like a goat, sticks in the corners, and is very stable in the technical sections. The only part that is lacking especially in upper park is the absence of rear suspension.



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    29er hardtail SS (playing with 1x9 on it now), 08' Fuel EX 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomass15
    29er hardtail SS (playing with 1x9 on it now), 08' Fuel EX 8.

    In Bidwell tires are as important as the bike, if not more.
    You are totally right. Tires and air pressure.

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    SC Heckler AM basic build - (still pretty much stock except for the front fork - vanilla 32 RLC) - Specialized Eskar 2bliss 2.3 in rear, Specialized Purgatory 2.4 front.

    Ride what you're comfortable on. But I agree with the tire comment. Cheap stuff breaks easily in Bidwell.

    (PS - I had to laugh the other day. I was coming through the power line section of Guardian's when I saw two guys on what appeared to be Target or Wal Mart type full susp. bikes. No helmets. Just staring up at me like "WTF are we doing out here?" I had the same thoughts. They looked completely lost and unprepared for what was ahead of them. Looked like they were trying to make it down safely. But this was just one of those situation you could see ending badly. I didn't see any blood the next day up there, so I'm assuming they made it out ok. I just didn't have time to stop and babysit. It was only about 8:15am so they had plenty of time left, but it was also 80+ degrees already. haha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomass15
    In Bidwell tires are as important as the bike, if not more.
    why?, it's just sharp lava rock and loose rock over hard-pack mixed with off-camber turns.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Just got my new Panaracer Rampage tires in from PricePoint (29x2.35)! I've been just tearing up my rear Conti Mountain King (29x2.2) and last ride it was pretty squirrely in the back...not a good feeling! I'm hoping the larger width and knobbier tread will hook up better than the MK's.
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    Going to hit the trails tonight starting around 8pm I think. I've never done B-trail at night before so that might be a kick...or I might get eaten by a mountain lion. Either way should be a new experience. Anyone else up for a ride?
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    To the guy on the blue Specialized Epic Comp who saw me tip over in the middle of middle trail...thanks for the conversation and not running me over. Believe it or not, that was the only time I crashed...of course it had to be in front of someone. Anyways, good times!

    I've been talking with a couple friends and we want to try and get the weekly ride thing going again. I figure the best way to start will be to just have a standing schedule and whoever wants to can show up. I usually ride the park twice a week, at least in the dry season so I'll start scheduling it and we'll see what happens.

    I'm kind of a middle of the road intermediate rider, but I'm up for riding with the faster guys until I puke/crash or taking it a bit slower with the beginner riders. I'm familiar with all the trails in the park and dig all of them so we can ride whatever, even shuttle rides to green gate if we can organize beforehand.

    I propose meeting Sundays @ 6pm and Wednesdays @ 7pm for now. I'll be at the Easter Cross parking lot by the gate. That should give enough time for a quick ride during the week and a longer ride on the weekend. I'm also down for night rides and early morning rides if that works better for some people. 5:30am rides are brutally early, but I'm down if there is a group getting together.

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    I've found a new love of the south rim trail. It's mostly dirt with some rocks, as opposed to the north side trails which are mostly rock with some dirt. Pretty pleasant ride aside from some hike a bike sections. I'm going to be busy this Wednesday, but would be down for a meetup either for a night ride or 6-7pm ride Thursday or Friday. Haven't done a green gate shuttle in a while, and would be willing to if there were enough takers.
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    Night ride! Me and at least one other rider will be at Easter Cross/North Rim trailhead around 8:00-8:15pm for a night ride. Probably keep it simple and do middle trail up past Salmon Hole, then turn around and come back down middle, then finish with lower trail.
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    Watch out for the freshman out there littering the trails...
    Saw two of them walking up South Rim with no helmets or gear of any sort, but wearing neon "Wayfarers" on widow-maker bikes.
    They had no idea about anything other than wanting to find a trail to "bomb down super fast"
    Uhmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by theilluminati
    Watch out for the freshman out there littering the trails...
    Saw two of them walking up South Rim with no helmets or gear of any sort, but wearing neon "Wayfarers" on widow-maker bikes.
    They had no idea about anything other than wanting to find a trail to "bomb down super fast"
    Uhmm...
    I've seen some interesting characters in the last week too, and mostly helmetless and shirtless and on bikes I wouldn't trust for "bombing down super fast".

    I try to err on the side of not being exclusive or condescending, but they have to at least try to not be idiots about it. I have fond memories of bombing down B-trail on an 8 year old used bike with cage pedals and tennis shoes, but I atleast wore a helmet and learned how to maintain my bike so it wouldn't fall apart and kill me.

    Oh well, I won't yell at them as long as they stay off my literal and figurative lawns

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    I've seen some interesting characters in the last week too, and mostly helmetless and shirtless and on bikes I wouldn't trust for "bombing down super fast".

    I try to err on the side of not being exclusive or condescending, but they have to at least try to not be idiots about it. I have fond memories of bombing down B-trail on an 8 year old used bike with cage pedals and tennis shoes, but I atleast wore a helmet and learned how to maintain my bike so it wouldn't fall apart and kill me.

    Oh well, I won't yell at them as long as they stay off my literal and figurative lawns
    Yeah, I posted similar on 7/20 (see below). This was prior to the "return of the students".

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    I finally got my Cannondale F7...using my Credit Card >.< My old bike finally completely fell apart. Looking to meet up with anyone who wants to ride Bidwell and has a better idea of the place than me. I'm a noob to mountain biking, but in pretty good shape, so I won't really slow anyone down unless it's pretty technical.

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    If you really want to ride with some noobs, I go out with my wife and a few of her friends every Weds evening around 630. Assuming it doesn't rain we'll be out tonight. We're still working on technical stuff so we'll stop to session stuff on middle and lower trail.

    Otherwise for rides a bit faster TwoHeads, myself and a few others try to meet up at least once a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmogSUX
    I finally got my Cannondale F7...using my Credit Card >.< My old bike finally completely fell apart. Looking to meet up with anyone who wants to ride Bidwell and has a better idea of the place than me. I'm a noob to mountain biking, but in pretty good shape, so I won't really slow anyone down unless it's pretty technical.
    There is the standing ride Tue/Thur at 6pm from Hooker Oak by the Playground on the north end, depending on who shows they get a wide range of speed of riders.

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    Dang, wish I could make it tomorrow night but I have a job to do.

    Damn work always getting in the way of my play time!
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    Hmm my work/school schedule is pretty hectic at the moment, but I'll find a gap in my schedule to make it out soon I can't wait til I test out this bike for real!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomass15
    There is the standing ride Tue/Thur at 6pm from Hooker Oak by the Playground on the north end, depending on who shows they get a wide range of speed of riders.
    Hope you make it out

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    Anyone down to go for a ride Sunday?

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    I showed up last night, and had a hell of a time! Thanks for the ride, it was nice to meet all of you. I think at the beginning we had 5 riders, but then met up with 2-3 more on the trail. There were a ton of people on the trails last night and that was great to see.

    I really liked the route we took, which was a bit different than my normal upper/middle/lower loop. Great workout, nice people, and some FAST riders! I was happy to just keep you guys in sight most of the time, but I'll be back for more. I think after a couple more rides I'll be keeping up with the group better. Cheers!
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    Ok, after living in Chico for 6 years before I started MTB and getting rained out the two times I would have had the chance to ride bidwell since then, I think I am finally going to get to ride bidwell this sunday.

    My plan is to park at horshoe/gun club area and then ride up North Rim and down B trail. Take park road to the creek crossing and head up 10 mile and then come down Guardian. This sound like a pretty good loop? I'd like to get a little of everything the park has to offer. Ill probably have somewhere in the 2-3 hr range of ride time while the wife is at a baby shower, so if I get back to the start and have some time what would be some nice short add ons? Also, are the trails marked fairly well or easy to follow without getting too turned around?
    Thanks for the info
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzaro
    Ok, after living in Chico for 6 years before I started MTB and getting rained out the two times I would have had the chance to ride bidwell since then, I think I am finally going to get to ride bidwell this sunday.

    My plan is to park at horshoe/gun club area and then ride up North Rim and down B trail. Take park road to the creek crossing and head up 10 mile and then come down Guardian. This sound like a pretty good loop? I'd like to get a little of everything the park has to offer. Ill probably have somewhere in the 2-3 hr range of ride time while the wife is at a baby shower, so if I get back to the start and have some time what would be some nice short add ons? Also, are the trails marked fairly well or easy to follow without getting too turned around?
    Thanks for the info
    that's a pretty ambitious but very fun loop . The trails are well marked imo and you shouldn't have a problem finding your way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzaro
    Ok, after living in Chico for 6 years before I started MTB and getting rained out the two times I would have had the chance to ride bidwell since then, I think I am finally going to get to ride bidwell this sunday.

    My plan is to park at horshoe/gun club area and then ride up North Rim and down B trail. Take park road to the creek crossing and head up 10 mile and then come down Guardian. This sound like a pretty good loop? I'd like to get a little of everything the park has to offer. Ill probably have somewhere in the 2-3 hr range of ride time while the wife is at a baby shower, so if I get back to the start and have some time what would be some nice short add ons? Also, are the trails marked fairly well or easy to follow without getting too turned around?
    Thanks for the info
    If you finish early, ride the park road up to B-trail again and hit middle trail back down to Horseshoe. Road will be closed to cars on Sunday and Monday so it's a quick easy pedal up and the top part of middle trail is fun and fast.

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    I'm with boomn, that's pretty dang ambitious.
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    I plan to ride saturday leaving from Hooker Oak at 0800 if anybody wants to join me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vuduvgn
    I'm with boomn, that's pretty dang ambitious.
    Well, I am thinking 45mins up north trail is probably a safe bet and then 30-45 for B-trail/10mile and one more 45ish down guardians. That sound reasonable for timing? I am going to be riding solo so there wont be much in the way of lollygaging. I think what I have planned is somewhere around 15mi or so. Not trying to argue with you guys, just get a feel for the ride so that I can not piss the wife off too much when I am late. I did miss my sons birth because I was out riding so I'd like to be on time Its a fairly short ride, is it just the tech terrain to make this a slower ride? Thanks guys for the input, really looking forward to the ride

    The extra miles at the end might be a little ambitious though, but hey as long I am here right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzaro
    Well, I am thinking 45mins up north trail is probably a safe bet and then 30-45 for B-trail/10mile and one more 45ish down guardians. That sound reasonable for timing? I am going to be riding solo so there wont be much in the way of lollygaging. I think what I have planned is somewhere around 15mi or so. Not trying to argue with you guys, just get a feel for the ride so that I can not piss the wife off too much when I am late. I did miss my sons birth because I was out riding so I'd like to be on time Its a fairly short ride, is it just the tech terrain to make this a slower ride? Thanks guys for the input, really looking forward to the ride

    The extra miles at the end might be a little ambitious though, but hey as long I am here right?
    45mins per section is plenty of time while still enjoying the ride. What time are you planning on starting? Might be hot Sunday so make sure you bring plenty of water (or a water filter to use at the creek crossing), because that climb up ten mile is a slow, steep grind.

    And yeah, it's mostly the terrain that will take it out of you. For many people, their first time on Guardians involves a lot of walking through the steep, off-camber sections. The beginning of Guardians is fast and fun. Then after Bloody Pin intersection is where you'll run into the techy stuff. Just cruise it like your times indicate and you'll love it.

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    anyone down for a night ride tonight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcalchico
    anyone down for a night ride tonight?
    One of my lights crapped out on me or else I'd be up for it Tim. Gonna try to get out tomorrow morning before kickoff. (I'm a football junkie)

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    Want to get at 7am? Meet at the cross?

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcalchico
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    Check your email.

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    Sounds good. See ya then

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    Nice ride on Tuesday night, had about 6 riders and ran into another group of 7-8 riders at the Middle Trail/Lower Trail intersection. Not sure who they were, but I'm new to MTB'ing with others around Chico. I figured I would include a map of what we did, so here ya go:

    http://ridewithgps.com/trips/113428

    Basically, here's the route:
    - Start at Hooker Oak Rec Area Parking Lot
    - Ride up to 5-mile and cross the bridge
    - Take the cutoff trails to Easter Cross
    - Middle Trail and then up Blue Oak trail to North Rim
    - Ride up the minor trail parallel to North Rim up to Maidu/Canyon Oak Trail and take back down to Middle Trail.
    - Right below Monkey Face hop onto Upper Trail
    - Ride Upper Trail a couple miles, then down Live Oak trail and hook back onto Middle Trail
    - Middle Trail to B-Trail, turn around and ride back down Middle Trail
    - Switch on to Lower Trail just past Bear Hole and ride to the Horseshoe Lake Parking lot.
    - Ride Middle Trail back to Easter Cross, then back to the Hooker Oak parking lot.
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    I'll try to make it out this next Tuesday/Thursday. I went out tonight, but forgot about this thread. If anyone saw me what's upp? Haha I was the guy with the green shorts that kept stopping cuz I had no idea where I was going.

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    We are heading out of town to the Hole in the ground trail off hwy80 this Saturday.
    We are meeting at the park n ride at 7am.

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    Damn you people wake up early lol I love biking when it's hot out. But can't go on weekends anyways I go home to Yuba to see my parents.

    Oh and biking Bidwell I think I already untrued my back wheel.. ;[

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmogSUX
    Oh and biking Bidwell I think I already untrued my back wheel.. ;[
    Haha don't worry about the wheel, I think my wife bent hers up on the second or third ride. It's a cheap fix. If you make it out next tues or thurs maybe there will finally be someone in the group closer to my skill level. Those guys ride fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmogSUX
    Damn you people wake up early lol I love biking when it's hot out. But can't go on weekends anyways I go home to Yuba to see my parents.

    Oh and biking Bidwell I think I already untrued my back wheel.. ;[
    You will notice that most of us that ride Bidwell often run as fat of tires as we can, the bigger tires help and help keep the wheel from being beat to death.

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    Well, I had a good ride while it lasted! I bent up a link in my chain at some point, didn't notice it, and then it got stuck mid-climb. I felt the resistance but couldn't stop pedaling soon enough and ripped the chain apart . I also bent the hell out of my small chainring, so hopefully i can bend that back into place. Luckily someone had a spare replacement pin for a Shimano 9-spd chain, and guided me on the trailside fix. MANY THANKS!

    I hope to get to the bike store today and get back in business for next week. Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing
    Well, I had a good ride while it lasted! I bent up a link in my chain at some point, didn't notice it, and then it got stuck mid-climb. I felt the resistance but couldn't stop pedaling soon enough and ripped the chain apart . I also bent the hell out of my small chainring, so hopefully i can bend that back into place. Luckily someone had a spare replacement pin for a Shimano 9-spd chain, and guided me on the trailside fix. MANY THANKS!

    I hope to get to the bike store today and get back in business for next week. Cheers!
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    I'll be there for the 6pm Tuesday ride. You guys meet up at the school on Hooker Oak? And it'd be cool to ride with people. I love going fast, but there are so many random rocks that poke out...almost ate **** multiple times on North Rim lol

    And I'm running the tires that came with the bike. 26x2.10 Kenda miniblocks or something @50psi. They are a LOT bigger/wider than my last bike's tires..I never really lost traction in North Rim. But when I tried to take this super technical path that I think was more for hiking than biking I lost traction a ton and fell into stickers lol

    Also I read up on maintaining your fork due to all the dust and stuff. What about the chain and gearset? Mine are covered in dirt/dust still..dunno if I should go through the hassle of cleaning and relubing or not.

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    We meet at Hooker Oak park on Manzanita Avenue, at the north end of the parking lot. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=hooker...26157&t=h&z=16

    As far as tires, if they are Kenda Small Block 8 tires, they should work fine but are probably more suited for smoother terrain. Just my preference, but I like big fat knobbies in the park. I'm running Panaracer Rampage, but also like Kenda Nevegal, Continental Mountain King, and Panaracer Fire XC tires.

    And for the chain and rest of the bike, I'd keep it clean and lubed as much as possible. Upper Park trails are rough on bikes (and people ), and keeping everything clean and lubed up helps a lot. I spray off the dust with the hose every 1-2 rides, wipe down the chain with a rag, relube, then wipe off excess chain lube. Be sure not to shoot water into fork seals, bearing, etc. That just forces dirt on the outside to get inside seals and destroy parts. A nice gentle spray should be enough to rinse the dirt and grime off.
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    We meet at Hooker oak park. I would lower the tire pressure that should help with traction.
    Hope to see you out.

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