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    Anyone have a used 20mm thru axle front wheel you wanna sell? Got a new fork coming. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelbolt
    Anyone have a used 20mm thru axle front wheel you wanna sell? Got a new fork coming. Thanks in advance.
    Nevermind. Thanks again, Larry!

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    FYI: More Trial Work

    http://www.chicoer.com/breakingnews/ci_17928348

    I'm sure it's a good thing long term, but it means Middle may be blocked or closed in some sections. Oh well. May have to spend some more time on the south side of the park.
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    Mtn. Lion on B-trail

    Very large mtn. lion in front of me about 3/4 of way down B-trail today around 730pm.
    Must have not been hungry as ran down the trail a bit just before jetting down the hill.
    Be aware. (Though, the P.O. is scarier than a mountain lion)
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    Trails were closed today so I decided to hike down 10 mile house road to the creek, to check out the water levels. I don't know if it's crossable, didn't really feel like getting wet. BTW, does anyone know where 10 mile house road continues onto going east?


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    It's been crossable for about a month now...and you won't even get the boys wet if you're careful.

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    10 mile house keeps going up the canyon until you hit the nature preserve. There is a gate about 2-3 miles east and a sign that says no bikes .
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    HELLO anybody out there?

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    I would say everybody's busy riding, but I didn't see too many out on middle trail this afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PA24 View Post
    I would say everybody's busy riding, but I didn't see too many out on middle trail this afternoon.
    Call me a wimp but I'd rather avoid the full strength of the sun this time of year so I always ride after 6pm if I can. Early morning or after dark are also popular with others

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn View Post
    Call me a wimp but I'd rather avoid the full strength of the sun this time of year so I always ride after 6pm if I can. Early morning or after dark are also popular with others
    Exactly! I rode North Rim/B/Middle last Saturday in 95F heat and it definitely took some enjoyment out of riding. Early AM is a great time to ride, not only because of the temperature, but because you almost get the park to yourself. And of course, there is still the Tues/Thurs group meeting at Hooker Oak Rec Area Parking Lot @ 6pm. Come on out and check out the trails!
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    Bidwell Bump - August 27th

    Get fired up for the Bump!! Two months until the race on August 27th!! If you have not checked out the website here is the link: www.thebidwellbump.com Do us a favor and hit the "like" button for the Bump's Facebook page. Online registration is now open. Tell your friends and spread the word!!

    Also, Rodney is doing pratice Northrim/B-trail/Middle-trail races on Mondays at 6:30pm.

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    Still haven't done B-trail in a while. Anyone clear the remaining oak overgrowth? C'mon... I took care of middle trail tunnel... someone please step up (or inform us that it's done) so I don't have to wake up in the middle of the night covered in the stuff... again. Thanks in advance. I have some tools stashed up there near bottom of b-trail in case you want to use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelbolt View Post
    Still haven't done B-trail in a while. Anyone clear the remaining oak overgrowth? C'mon... I took care of middle trail tunnel... someone please step up (or inform us that it's done) so I don't have to wake up in the middle of the night covered in the stuff... again. Thanks in advance. I have some tools stashed up there near bottom of b-trail in case you want to use them.
    Last week it wasn't too bad actually. There may have been a few encroaching branches, but there are easy enough to avoid. I'll bring some clippers next time. I'm trying to get below 9 minutes though, and that's really going to hurt my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    Exactly! I rode North Rim/B/Middle last Saturday in 95F heat and it definitely took some enjoyment out of riding. Early AM is a great time to ride, not only because of the temperature, but because you almost get the park to yourself. And of course, there is still the Tues/Thurs group meeting at Hooker Oak Rec Area Parking Lot @ 6pm. Come on out and check out the trails!
    what trails are you guys riding? Been riding bidwell a lot and looking for some new people to ride with, just curious if i would be able to keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    ... I'm trying to get below 9 minutes though, and that's really going to hurt my time.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/93272223
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    Quote Originally Posted by YamiRider1316 View Post
    what trails are you guys riding? Been riding bidwell a lot and looking for some new people to ride with, just curious if i would be able to keep up.
    I'm sure you would be fine. We are a casual group that takes off from Hooker oak every Tue/ Thur 6pm.

    New riders are always welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by vuduvgn View Post
    TwoHeadsBrewing - you've got to get on Strava: http://app.strava.com/rides/654313
    Done, I'm MTBen on there. Damn dude, 24 minutes up North Rim??? Nice times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YamiRider1316 View Post
    what trails are you guys riding? Been riding bidwell a lot and looking for some new people to ride with, just curious if i would be able to keep up.
    The Tue/Thurs ride is definitely a casual group, but we do get after it. There are frequent regroups and the overall pace is relaxed, but you still get a good workout. Well, I should say that I get a good workout...people are usually waiting for me! We pretty much ride all the trails in the park, up and down both sides.
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    Would like to find at least one other person who's up for doing the bump loop a couple times per week (1 weekday ride,1 weekend ride) for at least the next few weeks.

    Thinking a 2-hour'ish pace to start off. During the week I have to be home by 7:45am at the latest.

    Depature on weekdays has to be before 6am, weekends could be b/t 7am and 8am. Could start at Easter Cross or 5-mile gravel parking lot.

    Lemme know or just start showing up and if we ride together so be it.

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    Are you talking the entire XC course (North Rim and South), or the Sport(North, B, Middle) course?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    Are you talking the entire XC course (North Rim and South), or the Sport(North, B, Middle) course?
    Sorry... Pro/Expert course. So yep, both sides.

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    I'd be down for some early AM rides. I work at 8am weekdays, so would need to be back home by 7:30am...that puts me at a 5:30am departure minimum. Not sure if I'd be up to the 2 hour pace at this point but I'll give it a shot. My Sport course times are around 1:10 and at least starting out that 10 Mile House road climb is going to KILL me. I'm up for the punishment though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    I'd be down for some early AM rides. I work at 8am weekdays, so would need to be back home by 7:30am...that puts me at a 5:30am departure minimum. Not sure if I'd be up to the 2 hour pace at this point but I'll give it a shot. My Sport course times are around 1:10 and at least starting out that 10 Mile House road climb is going to KILL me. I'm up for the punishment though...
    Cool. I'll PM you my contact info and we can work something out. I rode NR --> B trail this morning and I was not good. Hopefully I can just chalk that up to too much Downieville action over the weekend... but probably not.

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    I wish I could get out with you boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcalchico View Post
    I wish I could get out with you boys.
    Yep. Missed you @ Downieville. We went home early Sunday. Maybe a Sunday bump ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelbolt View Post
    Yep. Missed you @ Downieville. We went home early Sunday. Maybe a Sunday bump ride?
    Sure.

    Tom has is getting a group together for Sunday . Meet at 5mile 8:30am

    Let me know we could just go at it together

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcalchico View Post
    Sure.

    Tom has is getting a group together for Sunday . Meet at 5mile 8:30am

    Let me know we could just go at it together
    Crap. I have to switch to tomorrow (Saturday). 8:30am is still pretty late for me (even on weekends), but I can try for it. I'd prefer 7am.

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    7:30am departure from the cross @ North Rim if anyone wants in.

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    not sure if novice or sport, but my training for the Bump starts Monday. I haven't been on my mtbr in over a year, but I've been roadie-ing up to Centerville which I reckon is roughly akin to two trips up the North Rim Trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w00t! View Post
    not sure if novice or sport, but my training for the Bump starts Monday. I haven't been on my mtbr in over a year, but I've been roadie-ing up to Centerville which I reckon is roughly akin to two trips up the North Rim Trail.
    Plan on 30-40 minutes from the parking lot at easter cross to the top of north rim. Most of the fast guys ride it in the 20-25 minute range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    Plan on 30-40 minutes from the parking lot at easter cross to the top of north rim. Most of the fast guys ride it in the 20-25 minute range.
    Yeah, I typically roll up the N. Rim in 35 min. That's on a SS hardtail. I'm pretty sure I'll just ride in the Novice class...I fear that I would just be in peoples' way on B Trail and that wouldn't be cool. The Novice course is my playground though, perfect for singlespeeding, just a bit too short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w00t! View Post
    not sure if novice or sport, but my training for the Bump starts Monday. I haven't been on my mtbr in over a year, but I've been roadie-ing up to Centerville which I reckon is roughly akin to two trips up the North Rim Trail.
    My times are actually faster to climb Centerville from the Covered Bridge to the Gravel than to climb North Rim from the Bump start to B trail. Now add in the Centerville gravel and you have a road bike climb that would be similar to North Rim.

    Really any climbing is good, just keep after it and having fun!

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    I actually posted my thoughts backwards regarding that comparison. :/ I meant to say that a trip up the N. Rim was like going to C'ville twice. Fricken' wine, I guess.

    It's a really excellent road ride, though...I typically just can't hang with roading because I get bored and then my stamina goes to shiz quickly. If there ain't killer climbs and/or views, I'm out.

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    I had an unfortunate surprise this evening: a large crew working on containing and cleaning up a fire on Guardian trail. Here's a ChicoER news story. We got rerouted off the trail onto the road through Cal Park right at the east edge of what had been part of the fire. That area looked like it was mostly just brush that burnt and the trail itself appears to have provided a useful firebreak without damage I could see from where we stopped. The fire in that area was on the hillside above the trail.

    Here is the approximate location based on where I got kicked off and where they were describing the remaining active fire line.


    On a side note the fireman we talked to give us a bit of accusatory bewilderment that we were on the trail when "the park is closed" because of the fire, which is funny considering that even an hour later all the park signs still said open

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    Boomn - nice head's up. I went to check it out this morning and took some video. Will post later. You're pretty much right on with the area. Fire crew has kept some of their gear and hoses up there and also hoses still stretched across the trail. So anyone riding Guardian's needs to look out for it right in the area that you've circled. I'm guessing they'll be up there soon to check out the situation and remove their stuff.

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    Dang, just saw news about another fire later last night. I wonder where this one was and how much damage it did?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn View Post
    Dang, just saw news about another fire later last night. I wonder where this one was and how much damage it did?!
    My guess is it just flared up in about the same spot as the one you came across and they accessed it from the point indicated on this pic I made from google earth:


    That's where I found some of the crew's leftovers and tire tracks from the rigs.

    Video is still uploading. You'll be able to figure out the fire perimeter as I start from where I find their stuff... ride a along the top... then took time to walk below the spot where they cut the bottom fire line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelbolt View Post
    My guess is it just flared up in about the same spot as the one you came across and they accessed it from the point indicated on this pic I made from google earth:


    That's where I found some of the crew's leftovers and tire tracks from the rigs.

    Video is still uploading. You'll be able to figure out the fire perimeter as I start from where I find their stuff... ride a along the top... then took time to walk below the spot where they cut the bottom fire line.
    Yep, I think you're right. I must have missed the part in that news article about it being 1/4" east of the original

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    Here's the vid. Turn down the sound if you don't like Hendrix. (Disclaimer: horrible editing. sketchy production. Awful riding. Song choice shows poor judgement and lack of sensitivity. Other than that, enjoy!)

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/26742261?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0"></iframe><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/26742261">Untitled</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user3732984"> </a> <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    I would have said "GTFO if you don't like Hendrix..." but that's okay.

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    Got out for some trail maintenance this morning with nickelbolt. We cleared the meadow section of South Rim at the base of Tennis Ball Hill. If you've ridden lately, you know that is choked with star thistle. Or I should say WAS choked with star thistle...it's all gone now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    Got out for some trail maintenance this morning with nickelbolt. We cleared the meadow section of South Rim at the base of Tennis Ball Hill. If you've ridden lately, you know that is choked with star thistle. Or I should say WAS choked with star thistle...it's all gone now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelbolt View Post
    The Evidence. Good stuff, man.



    Next time bring the riding mower... Great job guy's

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    Thank you for clearing the star thistle. Stuff was wreaking havoc on my shins. Next time you guys do some trail work shoot me a message and i would love to come out and contribute as i ride these trails often.

    On another note, anybody interested in doing a shuttle run up 32 either fri or sat morning? Was thinking drop in at pine, take bloody pin, up annie, cross the creek and middle out.

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    I'd be down for a Friday morning ride, as long as the shop has my bike back by tomorrow. Any interest in doing the Bump course? If not, a shuttle run sounds good too.

    North Rim -> B Trail -> Creek Crossing -> 10 mile house -> Guardian -> Bloody Pin -> Annie Bidwell -> South Rim
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    I've been kicking around this idea for a while, but I'm interested to hear what others think. Tennis Ball Hill is a monument of sorts, but it's also nearly impossible to ride and remnants of an old jeep trail. It's not hiker, biker or equestrian friendly and breaks up the nice flow of the lower south rim.

    I think it would be a great project for the future to re-route the trail around Tennis Ball Hill to offer a more maintainable and usable trail. In the picture below you can see the existing trail which simply goes straight down the hill. The alternate route would run more along the ridge, almost parallel to Guardian Trail but then drops down in a short section and meets back up with the existing Annie Bidwell trail almost at the base. I'm interested to hear what your thoughts on this are, and whether this would be a good project for the CATS group to put forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    I've been kicking around this idea for a while, but I'm interested to hear what others think. Tennis Ball Hill is a monument of sorts, but it's also nearly impossible to ride and remnants of an old jeep trail. It's not hiker, biker or equestrian friendly and breaks up the nice flow of the lower south rim.

    I think it would be a great project for the future to re-route the trail around Tennis Ball Hill to offer a more maintainable and usable trail. In the picture below you can see the existing trail which simply goes straight down the hill. The alternate route would run more along the ridge, almost parallel to Guardian Trail but then drops down in a short section and meets back up with the existing Annie Bidwell trail almost at the base. I'm interested to hear what your thoughts on this are, and whether this would be a good project for the CATS group to put forward.
    I'm grinning just thinking about it! I hate that hill and have honestly avoided racing the full Bump every year since I've been here so I don't have to run my bike up that long hill under the pressure of the clock, and my planning of normal rides on the south side is also limited to routes that avoid the hill. I would love to have more good climbing in Bidwell and I bet a route like that would carve really nicely going down it too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    I'd be down for a Friday morning ride, as long as the shop has my bike back by tomorrow. Any interest in doing the Bump course? If not, a shuttle run sounds good too.

    North Rim -> B Trail -> Creek Crossing -> 10 mile house -> Guardian -> Bloody Pin -> Annie Bidwell -> South Rim


    Ide be up for the bump course but i dont think my endurance is up to par. I could probably gut it out if push came to shove but i hate being the guy that people are waiting on. I do have to be back in Paradise by 9am for work though but ultimately I,m down for whatever. I just want to ride.

    As for the re route proposal tell me when and where and i will be there with a shovel cause that stretch of trail is major flow killer.

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    Bump Course purists will hate that idea, THB. Gotta either figure out a way to clean it up and make it sustainable, or reroute as you said. Not sure if the barbed wire fence indicates it's still privately owned in that section or if that's just remnants of the old property that has yet to be cleared.

    I love the downhill techy ness of that stretch but as we discussed this morning the bottom is rutted out and beat to hell.

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