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    After several years of hearing about the slabby, chunky, and uniquely fun trails in Pinecrest, CA, I finally made the effort to head there last weekend. The Trogs came out in force and kindly showed me the way on Saturday, and with some cryptic directions, suggestions and a few winks, I spent all day Sunday exploring solo. Woah! I only scratched the surface, but add me to the list of people who's life is better for having visited this Disneyland of mt. biking

    We started early Saturday with a hearty dirt climb from the Strawberry Store to the top of Pinecrest Peak. Along the way, I was led to the land of the Gargoyles, which was jaw dropping:



    The area had a little Kirkwood and Bear Valley feel to it:


    After 12 miles or so of climbing, we made it to the top of the mountain, and it was good:


    Eyeballing the valley below, some of the other trail options, and views of the peaks all the way to Tahoe... Dardanelles, Reba, Round Top, Friel, etc...:




    Slab city

    (photo by George da Trog)

    Can't beat the view either:

    (photo by Fred da Trog)

    The builders of Upper PCP did a nice job routing the trail to lots of fun granite:


    While waiting for a flat to be repaired, I got to play around a bit on a nice big chunk:

    (photo by Fred da Trog)

    Coming around a tight turn, I witnessed Fred da Trog make the most graceful wipeout I've ever seen. Didn't even clip out as he went down and pivoted off a rock!:


    We took a mandatory "soak in the view" rest, overlooking the canyon and river between Pinecrest Peak and Dodge Ridge:


    George da Trog was enjoying Lower PCP a great deal:


    Lower PCP ends with a slightly hairy river crossing. I was glad there was a rope to assist with balance:


    We finished the day with a fun, short loop downstream from Strawberry, on each side of the river. After parting ways with the Trogs, I set out for a camp spot and got ready for what would be an all day ride on Sunday.

    Before heading to the woods, I did manage to see Bigfoot strolling through town:


    As I was solo on Sunday, I didn't take many photos, but while riding all the suggested routes, all I could think of was "This is $#&! awesome!" It was adventure riding at its absolute finest... primitive but 99.9% rideable, through terrain most people wouldn't conceive of taking a bike (thank you trail fairies!). Below are a few shots of some of the neat stuff I saw.

    A nice, rocky water crossing:


    I liked this Yosemite-esqe bump of granite. (We were on top of the peak in the far background the day before):


    Getting into the backcountry, the slabs just kept getting better and better:



    Being surrounded by granite warms my heart (but my self timer was a little late getting the entry shot):


    Oh yeah!!!


    Yeah, there's a rideable line through there... route finding was actually part of the fun:


    This didn't suck at all:


    I decided to not ride down this cascading waterfall:


    I won't bore you with anymore photos or babble, but if you're looking for a world class, highly technical mtb adventure, get your wheels to Pinecrest! Thank you Trogs for your guiding and everyone who makes PC what it is. It's fantastic

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    Your pictures bring back memories for me. It's such a great area. First time I rode the Pinecrest Peak trail was in 1991. It's been one of my favorites ever since.
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    Awesome. Been too long for me. Going up this weekend.

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    EB, glad you joined us and enjoyed our happiest place on earth.
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    I think you explored as much in 2 days as I have in the last 4 years. Great Pics.
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    Looks fun. I'm heading up for a wedding next weekend. Going to try to get a ride in on Fri.

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    Sweet!

    How long does your self timer go for?, dang my pops off in about 10 seconds.

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    Nice outing. Great pix!

    Even more better'r now that the rest of the pix loaded for me to check out!
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    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Thanks for sharing the stoke! Can't wait to get up there.
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    Awesome ride report, as always. Any route map? Did you do Pinecrest Peak Trail up and down?

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    Do you need a guide to get to the trails or is there a map / gps track I can get a hold of?

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    Great report/stoke!

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    Been too long...GOTTA get back. Pinecrest, when done right, is better than DVille in my OP and a much easier drive.
    I'm not sure how this works.

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    Nice Pictures

    Quote Originally Posted by Empty_Beer View Post
    After several years of hearing about the slabby, chunky, and uniquely fun trails in Pinecrest, CA, I finally made the effort to head there last weekend. The Trogs came out in force and kindly showed me the way on Saturday, and with some cryptic directions, suggestions and a few winks, I spent all day Sunday exploring solo. Woah! I only scratched the surface, but add me to the list of people who's life is better for having visited this Disneyland of mt. biking
    Great Ride Report!
    Too bad our paths didn't cross on Saturday... and then I was surprised when you passed my daughter and I riding on Sunday! Funny because all along the ride Sunday my daughter kept saying, "dad... use the self timer on your phone's camera and get this shot..." which I didn't... I didn't think it would work from as far away as you did. I'm going to have to play around with my camera on those timer shots!

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    Great report!

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    Yes please gpx tracks/maps I have been trying to recon this place for years.

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    Thanks for the nice feedback.

    Regarding camera self timer, the app on my iPhone that I use can be set for 60 seconds, but it will only take one photo. My old (broken) digital camera could be set for timer AND burst to take multiple shots, which was nice. So using an iPhone and trying to time one shot sucked. So I set it up to video and then did a screen capture of the frame I liked best

    I can't figure out how to embed FB video here... and iPhone to YouTube stutters during playback for some reason, but here's one of the "self timer" video's I grabbed a photo from (sorry non-FB people):

    Click "HD" and full screen: Along the creek
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    Frame grabs from a video sounds like a great option, thanks for the ideal!

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    Thank you for the write up and pics, I have never been to this section of the Sierras and I am going to have to go now. I love granite slabs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardway View Post
    Thank you for the write up and pics, I have never been to this section of the Sierras and I am going to have to go now. I love granite slabs!
    It's Sierra, singular, and it looks like a couple of rides.are happening fri and sat. **** wait.
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    REP +1 to you EB!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finch Platte View Post
    It's Sierra, singular, and it looks like a couple of rides.are happening fri and sat. **** wait.
    Thanks for the grammar correction d*****bag, I really appreciate it and I am sure that everyone else here does too. I see how you got to 8K+ posts.

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    Awesome report ,brings back fond memories. Years ago our family used to spend our summers there and I would get away in the afternoons and explore on my old Bontrager. Great place I need to go back!

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    EB, great running into you on Saturday. You cannot over-hype Pinecrest. I never get tired of doing the same trails over and over again and yet I have just scratched its surface and probably will always be there. I feel so lucky living right at its feet. Thanks very much must also be conveyed to you for your efforts on the Western States Trail on behalf of mountain biking access. Somehow, I think a good precedent is being set there. Happy Trails!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardway View Post
    Thanks for the grammar correction d*****bag, I really appreciate it and I am sure that everyone else here does too. I see how you got to 8K+ posts.
    We all appreciate finch. I do believe there was a ride "heads up" in his post you know....
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    I use the plural form of Sierras almost exclusively but I am just a redneck from Oakie-dale!!!

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    One of my favorite things about this area is the combination of high Sierra beauty (I call them the Sierras too) with the absence of people. (I love the reference to Strawberry "town." If you yawn in a car, you will miss it.) Once you get past Pinecrest you see hardly anyone and when on the trail you are indeed in the wild. I have been up the 108 to the Clark Fork area at least once per year for family camping, fishing, and backpacking (in Carson-Iceberg and Emigrant Wilderness) for over 15 years now, and beginning last year, now that the kids are old enough, some serious mountain biking. Last year we did a few serious trails for the first time but not the PCP -- yet. That is this year. Can't wait for our visit. I think the mountain biking will cut in to our fishing time.

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    Pinecrest Fan Club

    It's great seeing the interest EB's report has generated. The trails are made to be ridden by bikes. The trails were not made to be ridden by horses and motos, thus the locations are kept cryptic on the internet. Please honor that as we gladly share ride dates publically at https://www.facebook.com/groups/4961...group_activity

    Specific trail info will also be, gladly, privately shared with known riders . If you are unknown, please join in on a ride. Between now and snowfall there will most likely someone to guide you most weekends. Trail fairies are also welcome, but that's a whole other story.

    As you can see, Pinecrest area is biking wonderland. Please ride it, but keep it a biking wonderland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred-da-trog View Post
    It's great seeing the interest EB's report has generated. The trails are made to be ridden by bikes. The trails were not made to be ridden by horses and motos, thus the locations are kept cryptic on the internet. Please honor that as we gladly share ride dates publically at https://www.facebook.com/groups/4961...group_activity

    Specific trail info will also be, gladly, privately shared with known riders . If you are unknown, please join in on a ride. Between now and snowfall there will most likely someone to guide you most weekends. Trail fairies are also welcome, but that's a whole other story.

    As you can see, Pinecrest area is biking wonderland. Please ride it, but keep it a biking wonderland.
    I'll have to hit you up sometime. Not sure when... my options for traveling to ride are pretty limited these days, but it looks like it would be worth the effort.

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    @Fred -
    I'm going to be up there next Friday 5/7. Any chance I can get an intro to the trails?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestapho View Post
    @Fred -
    I'm going to be up there next Friday 5/7. Any chance I can get an intro to the trails?
    From me personally, sorry no. I have to work weekdays through June. Watch the FB site, someone else may be there. I will have the last three weeks in July off with a more flexible schedule
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    too bad. I just joined the FB page so I'll post something there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred-da-trog View Post
    It's great seeing the interest EB's report has generated. The trails are made to be ridden by bikes. The trails were not made to be ridden by horses and motos, thus the locations are kept cryptic on the internet. Please honor that as we gladly share ride dates publically at https://www.facebook.com/groups/4961...group_activity

    Specific trail info will also be, gladly, privately shared with known riders . If you are unknown, please join in on a ride. Between now and snowfall there will most likely someone to guide you most weekends. Trail fairies are also welcome, but that's a whole other story.

    As you can see, Pinecrest area is biking wonderland. Please ride it, but keep it a biking wonderland.
    - WELL put Fred! I'll be giving you a shout this Summer for a Tour with some bro's...

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    New member of the Pinecrest Fan Club

    Just put in a request to join the FB page.

    Thanks,

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    thanks for adding to the list

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    Nice fb page fred.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardway View Post
    Thanks for the grammar correction d*****bag, I really appreciate it and I am sure that everyone else here does too. I see how you got to 8K+ posts.
    Someone corrected me on this board to that very same error. I didn't take offense, I just learned. Are you always this thin-skinned?
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    So what is the trail network beyond the PCP trail? Are the trails all pretty easy to find/follow? It looks like a 6" AM bike would be the perfect weapon of choice.

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    I can't believe I happened across this!! I had no idea there was such great riding up there. I've been to Pinecrest about 10 times and the best riding I had ever found was the flume trail below the store. It just so happens I'm leaving for Pinecrest Monday and will be there all week, I hadn't planned on taking my good bike, but now I'm inspired to do so. Anyone else be around?? Thanks for posting!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haus Boss View Post
    So what is the trail network beyond the PCP trail? Are the trails all pretty easy to find/follow? It looks like a 6" AM bike would be the perfect weapon of choice.
    HB - I'll say 6" AM bike is pretty darn good for the riding out there. As for the trails besides PCP, yes, they are good. You can't really find them without being in "the loop". Use da PM for more info. I'm a pretty good trail finder and trail follower, and I wouldn't have found any of the goods without help from the Trogs. Following the trails, for me, was a huge part of the fun.

    This "picture doesn't do it justice" spot wouldn't be known to ANYONE without the enthusiasm and dedication of one/some people that have vision in a world of people wearing bifocals or blinders.


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    Doesn't look like any of the Trogs will be able to help me out on Friday.
    I'm going to do a loop up from Strawberry to Gargoyles and up and up to PCP then down.

    Is the PCP itself easy to follow?

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    Ive never been, and I certainly can't help you on Friday, but maybe we can go together sometime.

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    I'm game. Typically if I'm driving somewhere that far to ride I'll just do South Lake Tahoe.
    I really want to do the Echo-Silverfork shuttle ride as well.

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    mestapho and squareback, the picture has me a little confused. That's nowhere near Pinecrest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mestapho View Post
    Doesn't look like any of the Trogs will be able to help me out on Friday.
    I'm going to do a loop up from Strawberry to Gargoyles and up and up to PCP then down.

    Is the PCP itself easy to follow?
    Believe it or not this old "drawn by a dog" map won't get you lost.

    http://tuolumnecountytransportationc...t_peak_map.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred-da-trog View Post
    Believe it or not this old "drawn by a dog" map won't get you lost.

    http://tuolumnecountytransportationc...t_peak_map.pdf
    Thanks!
    Yeah I'm confused by the pic as well.

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    Is the "Bonus" section at the top of PCP easy to find/follow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestapho View Post
    Is the "Bonus" section at the top of PCP easy to find/follow?
    Bonus trails will not be televised.... or posted on Strava.

    ;-)

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    The top section I found on Strava and also from Ogre and another Trog's Strava routes. It's just a little section a little higher up that connects the pavement to PCP

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    Yeah, know all about it. Some of us would just prefer that Pinecrest be a Strava Bermuda Triangle....

    Folks, if you love these trails, or if you are hoping soon to get that mind=blown experience in the upcountry chunklands, please keep the locations of routes other than PCP on the DL. Take it to the PM level, or preferably meet up with a trog or a local. It's worth it.

    Ever seen a favorite trail obliterated by horses, motos or "the man"? Teh suck.

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    I'm just going to stick to the PCP route that Fred posted the map for.

    I wish I could have a Trog show me around, unfortunately Fri doesn't work for anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mestapho View Post
    I'm just going to stick to the PCP route that Fred posted the map for.

    I wish I could have a Trog show me around, unfortunately Fri doesn't work for anyone.
    Follow the hwy to the "berm". Loggers dozed the entrance behind the store and it's hard to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred-da-trog View Post
    mestapho and squareback, the picture has me a little confused. That's nowhere near Pinecrest.

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    The picture is from the other Strawberry on 50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Stinky View Post
    The picture is from the other Strawberry on 50
    I knew that, and now I know squareback did too.

    Pinecrest Peak trail (near the other Strawberry) is an old documented trail and totally ok to discuss.
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    Did the PCP trail this morning. Tons of fun. It reminds me of Toad's a bit with some Truckee mixed in. Plenty of dismounts for me as I'm not a great technical rider. One acrobatic unplanned dismount (OTB).
    I GoPro'd the ride. I'll post up a link on Monday.
    Thanks for the maps, etc.

    Pic from around mile 9ish of the climb
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    From the tippy top looking at Dodge Ridge
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    The log at the end. Kinda sketchy in cycling shoes holding a bike.
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    From Pinecrest Lake looking up at Pinecrest peak.
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    Glad you found your way. Several of us can vouch that the landing off the log, in pic#3, is not as harsh as you might think. The secret is to keep a firm grip on the bike so it doesn't get carried down stream.
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    Here is the video. Edited down to 17 minutes. The full downhill was just short of 40 minutes
    It was really hard to decide what to cut, because the whole ride is pretty awesome.


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    Gargoyle Love

    This is from a seldom ridden section in plain sight.

    Everybody rides by the Gargoyles, ooh and aah, but never explore.

    This the area at the far left of EB's #1 picNew member of the Pinecrest Fan Club-gavin-gargoyle.jpg
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    Anyone riding this weekend? BTW a friend of mine put up a climbing route on that arch in the background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Stinky View Post
    Anyone riding this weekend? BTW a friend of mine put up a climbing route on that arch in the background.
    I'd be up for a ride there. Sent you a pm.

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    Add Overhillthruthewoods...

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    Re: New member of the Pinecrest Fan Club

    Is this on the PCP trail? Looks awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickz5 View Post
    Is this on the PCP trail? Looks awesome.
    No, but it's in the same area. It is much much more technical than PCP, and is off the "grid" per say.
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    Looks awesome, would there be snow on the trail in late November? I'll be coming from Australia to visit my in laws and need to plan some days trips! !

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    Some years yes, some years no. In any event it will be near or below freezing temps in November even if there isn't snow, so prepare to Layer. Definately find a guide, as you don't want to get up there in a storm. The roads are usually closed that time of year and the nearest gate entrance to any of th upper trail heads are about 12-14 miles and 3200 to 3600 ft of eleveation difference (2 to 2.5) hrs by bike. So, if you are coming from the other side of the world, plan accordingly

    Honestly, as much as I love the pinecrest area, I don't think I would even attempt any of the upper trails (above 8000') that time of year. There are some that are lower that i would still attempt and have ridden, but an "incident" that time of year could have very dire consequences. Not how I would choose to spend my California Vacation.

    Plenty of other great places to ride in this state that time of year.

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    Wow, looks awesome! Would it be a really long day if you rode Pinecrest while staying in Arnold? Google Maps tells me it's about an hour and a half between the two... maybe camping would be a better option?
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    Haha yes I don't want to be caught in a storm up there! I said to the wife that next year we will visit in August so I can go to Northstar and Mammoth. Where is good to ride in Norcal in November? I will be in North Bay, so am looking at Paradise Royale, Annadel, China Camp, maybe Pacifica and Santa Cruz. Thanks for the advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piranha426 View Post
    Wow, looks awesome! Would it be a really long day if you rode Pinecrest while staying in Arnold? Google Maps tells me it's about an hour and a half between the two... maybe camping would be a better option?
    If you leave early enough, a trip from Arnold is doable. It does make for a long day, but so does camping. I have never camped where it didn't take at least an 1.5 hr of setup and take down.

    See you could hit Pinecrest early in the morning, and then hit the ART that evening
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickz5 View Post
    Haha yes I don't want to be caught in a storm up there! I said to the wife that next year we will visit in August so I can go to Northstar and Mammoth. Where is good to ride in Norcal in November? I will be in North Bay, so am looking at Paradise Royale, Annadel, China Camp, maybe Pacifica and Santa Cruz. Thanks for the advice!
    I stay pretty close to home during the cold months but i hear great things about all of those places, so I don't think you can go wrong. It's a bit out of the way, but you may want to look into Forrest Hill. That's definitely worth a day trip too.
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    I live in Arnold and have done a few trip a dew times this year. Leave the house by 8. Start riding by 11:00 if you want to the long long loop. HC-PCP-park at store. Plan for a all day outing. Usually back to car around 3-5, enjoy beer @ the store and fishing/swimming posssiblities. Equals the ultimate day off. El jardin on the way home for grubb.

    Winter riding-Usually in November hunters and light can be issues. I raced the incoming storm last year to get my last ride in. Windy & Cold. Hats (e) thick & thin, Patagonia Cap2 and some more layers. It was cold and a race against light. There were a ton of hunters in the Herring Creek drainage waiting for the deer to head to lower elevations. Be prepared for anything that late in the year.

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    If you are riding in the area in November, be sure to wear very bright clothing and bring cold weather gear. Hunters abound and you don't want to wear earth tones. And snow flurries can arise with little warning.

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    I'm thinking of riding here this weekend. If anyone wants to go, let me know.

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    Wow! Love the pics Going there soon with a TROG- Fred and a few other Groveland Trail Heads
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    During deer season goat bells help signal your presence to the omnipresent deer hunters prowling up and down the Herring Creek Road in their pickup trucks.

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    My wife is from Sonora so I had heard about the trails in this area for years. Finally checked out PCP and another trail this past weekend. OMG! Ha, it wasn't even supposed to be a riding trip.

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    Thanks, folks! I'll put this on the list for the next time we're up there. We stick to the ART in the fall; hunters haven't seemed to be too much of an issue there.
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    So much rocky goodness up there. Glad to see folks getting at it.

    Here's a hack viddy from yesterday, somewhere near Pinecrest.


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    Spotted the Original Pinecrest Fan Yesterday

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    Anyone doing Pinecrest Peak 7/25 - 7/27? I'm doing at least one AM run on Friday. Also, any suggestions on extending the ride downstream of Strawberry? Seems like something should continue towards Frasier but I've never checked. I've done PCP 4 times, looking for more DH. Please PM if you have any suggestions. Thanks!

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