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    Nearly all California State Parks to avoid closure - for now

    From the Sacramento Bee:


    Nearly all of the 70 California state parks originally slated for closure Sunday will remain open for now, despite a line-item veto of parks funding by Gov. Jerry Brown, state parks officials said today.

    The Department of Parks and Recreation has already struck deals with private donors, foundations and non-profit groups to continue operating 40 that were on the endangered list, including the Governor's Mansion in Sacramento. At the direction of Brown and lawmakers last year, the parks department had targeted the parks for closure based on attendance and how much revenue they generated.

    Because the state has found outside partners interested in sparing an additional 25 parks, it will keep them open using a sliver of special funds that Brown retained in the budget he signed Wednesday night, parks officials said. Democratic lawmakers added $41 million back into their budget to keep parks open, but Brown line-item vetoed $31 million of it.

    That leaves five parks for which the state has struggled to find donors or other agencies willing to chip in: Benicia State Recreation Area; the California Mining and Mineral Museum in Mariposa; Gray Whale Cove State Beach near Montara; Zmudowski State Beach near Moss Landing; and Providence Mountains State Recreation Area in San Bernardino County.

    It remains to be seen what will happen to those parks come Sunday, but at least one - the Mining and Mineral Museum - is planning to shut its doors and pack up more than 13,000 objects in its collection, according to curator Darci Moore.

    "At this point, we have no choice," Moore said. "We will be packing up the mineral collection and putting it in storage."

    Even if they face closure, the two state beaches on the endangered five-park list would remain open to visitors but without trash pick-up and restrooms, said Natural Resources Agency spokesman Richard Stapler.

    Natural Resources Secretary John Laird said today he still sees a path to keep all of the parks open using $10 million that Brown agreed to restore as a stopgap measure. Stapler said the department is examining possibilities over the next 24 hours that could save the last five parks without donors.

    "What this does is give us the money to allow us to focus on the next 30 without a tight June 30th deadline," Laird said. "We will work through every agreement that is possible with a proposed stakeholder. And then when we get to the end, I expect that there will likely be a few parks for which nobody has stepped forward, and then we will cross that bridge with what we do at that point."

    Read more here: Capitol Alert: Nearly all California state parks to avoid closure -- for now
    So Brown line-item vetoed out funding that had been added back into the budget for parks. I like that jerk even less now than the first time he was in charge of screwing up the state. But I am happy there is a little bit going to keep the parks open, glad there are so many groups who have stepped up into partnership with State Parks to help keep things going, and ecstatic there will still be good riding out there in these special places.
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    Hey Jerry!

    ..er I mean Governor Brown SIR; you sure had us fooled!

    It's kinda funny after we donate our last pennies to keep some parks open (like Coe in particular) the magicians opens their palms to reveal yet more gold coins.

    Kind of mean of you to pick on State Parks though; with its measly little $383 million 2012~13 proposed budget.

    The $11 million~$22 million~$33 whatever that would have been saved by closing 70 parks seems even more paltry compared to say the Department of Corrections budget of over $2 billion.

    This stuff isn't that easy to pick through; is there a Department of Obfuscation somewhere???

    It wasn't easy finding this:
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    Notice that in 2011~12 the DoC spends $166 million on dental care for adult prisoners; this really burns my a$$.

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    Uh, doesn't this happen, like, every year in California?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Castigador View Post
    Uh, doesn't this happen, like, every year in California?
    Yes. And every other year, we re-elect the same pack of morons.

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    Scary part is the voters are so easily scared and manipulated. Politicians always scare us by threatening to cut funding to the things that effect voters the most...schools, fire, police, parks, libraries. But never their seriously cut their bloated salaries, benifits and pensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dstepper View Post
    Scary part is the voters are so easily scared and manipulated. Politicians always scare us by threatening to cut funding to the things that effect voters the most...schools, fire, police, parks, libraries. But never their seriously cut their bloated salaries, benifits and pensions.
    It isn't the salaries and benefits of the lawmakers that cause trouble, but the handouts of our hard earned cash taken as tax money to those who don't deserve it and free spending on countless things that are just a flat-out waste of money.

    As pliebenberg alluded to, there is some serious obfuscation that constantly goes on in State government that clouds and hides how our tax money is really spent. You have to dig pretty deep to get the real data, and outside of the offices of the decision makers I do not think anyone, even the State accounting offices/controller/etc. know exactly where all the money is really going. Think of how the Pentagon uses shadow accounts and blue/black programs to hide spending of money...similar ruses are used by California state departments to hide the fact funds are given away or wasted. Even though this sounds like a bunch of conspiracy-theorist ramblings, it is what I have seen since 1995 working with my wife in her financial consulting business she runs that services school district, city, and county government clients in the State Mandates field. I have seen reports and data that show paper-trails leading to some really scary fiscal disclosures on how the State wastes funds.

    The lunatics are running the asylum over there at the State Capitol...that I know for sure.
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    Murky News article...

    California parks get reprieve, won't close Sunday - San Jose Mercury News

    ...is fairly comprehensive and is worth a read IMHO. Looks like some of the money "saving" the parks this go-around came from OHV funds (as predicted):

    "Part of the reason the state was able to keep the parks open this year was that on Wednesday, the governor, as part of approving the state budget, allowed $10 million to be shifted from accounts for energy programs and off-highway vehicle recreation to state parks. He also approved moving $13 million in bond funding from Proposition 84 and Proposition 40 to state parks to fund projects that can help parks generate more revenue."

    I got a chuckle out of this one:

    "With the bond funds, Coleman said, parks will raise more money by such methods as building cabins that can be rented and installing electronic kiosks where campers and hikers can use credit cards to pay, rather than the state having rangers collect the money."

    I suppose building cabins is a good idea but doesn't Ms Coleman know that her own agency's natural resources people will be totally against this? Good luck with that one...

    Electronic kiosks??? They already have nearly-foolproof "iron rangers" in many locations; locations that are remote and off-the-grid---sounds like the Electronic Kiosk lobby has recently taken Ruth to lunch!
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    thanks for the links; great news.

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    Wow,
    Didn't see this coming at all...........
    Massive closure of state parks announced: Coe, China Camp, Annadel, Malakoff, &c.

    Don't get me wrong, I am very happy to see the parks staying open, but this was quite predictable.
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    LOL:

    California parks had $54 million hidden surplus, officials say - latimes.com

    California's park system secretly stashed away $54 million even though it was cutting services and threatening to close parks, officials announced Friday, and the department's director resigned as the hidden surplus was revealed.

    Officials said the department has underreported tens of millions of dollars for the last 12 years. News of the surplus was first reported by the Sacramento Bee.

    The Attorney General's office is also conducting an investigation, said spokeswoman Lynda Glendhill.

    Ruth Coleman, the director who resigned, has worked for the parks department since 1999. Her second in command was fired.

    Its devastating, said Caryl Hart, chair of the state parks commission. I feel like a victim."
    So all that was an obviously cynical attempt to drum up support for more taxes. As if it was not clear.

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    I need to find $54 million around and not know anything about it. WTF!

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    F**kers. I hope the AG goes after them for criminal charges.
    Why is the OHV community so cynical about state parks? Hiding $33M will do that, especially after the state illegally diverted money from the OHV trust fund and did not return it years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    LOL:

    California parks had $54 million hidden surplus, officials say - latimes.com

    So all that was an obviously cynical attempt to drum up support for more taxes. As if it was not clear.
    We have our orders for this weekend!!!! Destroy!

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    More heads should roll

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    Incentives: prison guard union funds the election of many CA politicians. In return, department of correction budget gets spared every year. Kinda hard to bite the hand that gets you reelected.

    Frankly, without any kind of meaningful pension reform, I don't see any new tax proposal passing in the fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Incentives: prison guard union funds the election of many CA politicians. In return, department of correction budget gets spared every year. Kinda hard to bite the hand that gets you reelected.
    The moves come in the wake of a scandal, revealed by The Bee on Sunday, in which a deputy director at State Parks carried out a secret vacation buyout program for employees at department headquarters last year. That buyout cost the state more than $271,000.

    Read more here: California parks director resigns amid scandal - Lead Story - The Sacramento Bee
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    Frankly, without any kind of meaningful pension reform, I don't see any new tax proposal passing in the fall.
    Never underestimate the power of populism. They just have to package it as in "sock the rich". People do not think ahead.

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    Let me say that Ms. Coleman...

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    More heads should roll
    ...is taking the fall for Gov. Brown!

    Impeach???
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    Quote Originally Posted by pliebenberg View Post
    ...is taking the fall for Gov. Brown!

    Impeach???
    I just hope this little fiasco backfires on him.

    I do not think Brown did that. He was busy trying to spend some Billions with a B for a magnetically levitated train from Los Banos to Coalinga. Or was it a monorail around the state Capitol?

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    i don't think it was gov brown. the governator was too blame. of course he was too busy f_____g his housekeeper rather than being governor of california. i am glad that ruth coleman resigned now we can open the parks back up.

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    I do not think Brown did that. He was busy trying to spend some Billions with a B for a magnetically levitated train from Los Banos to Coalinga. Or was it a monorail around the state Capitol?[/QUOTE]

    i don't think a high speed train is going to happen. we already have amtrack from sacramento down to la. why waste billions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29ernb View Post
    i don't think a high speed train is going to happen. we already have amtrack from sacramento down to la. why waste billions?
    Indeed, why? You should probably ask its biggest cheerleader - gov. Brown.

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    New information emerges

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    SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- A former California state parks employee says she told state attorneys that her department was hiding about $20 million in a special fund several months before officials announced discovering the surplus money, according to a sworn declaration filed in court Tuesday.

    Read more here: APNewsBreak: State lawyers told of hidden funds - AP State Wire News - The Sacramento Bee

    Taylor, according to her statement, first told a representative of the state attorney general's office in January about the hidden $20 million and that the budget manager for the parks department had warned employees to keep the underreporting quiet.

    Taylor's declaration is part of a sexual harassment lawsuit naming Manuel Lopez, the state parks' former budget manager who is at the center of multiple investigations. State attorneys were tracing an unauthorized vacation buyout program organized by Lopez when they questioned Taylor about department finances.

    Her sworn declaration, filed in Sacramento County Superior Court, says she told Deputy Attorney General Corrine Lee Murphy and parks department staff attorney Jennifer Comilang in April that she "was aware of the under reporting of funds," but that Lopez had told her not to report the information. She also told the attorneys that Lopez had ordered her to demote an employee who reported the $20 million surplus in the spring of 2010.

    Taylor said in her declaration that she had a similar conversation by telephone in January with the state Department of Justice, which is run by the attorney general's office.


    Read more here: Former Parks Employee Says State Attorneys Told of Budget Stash | KQED News Fix

    Natural Resources Agency Secretary John Laird said last month that the hidden money was found in July by a new park fiscal staff member while the attorney general's office was examining the unauthorized vacation buyouts by parks employees. Taylor's court declaration says the attorney general's office knew as early as January.

    Read more: APNewsBreak: State lawyers told of hidden funds - SFGate

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Incentives: prison guard union funds the election of many CA politicians. In return, department of correction budget gets spared every year. Kinda hard to bite the hand that gets you reelected.

    Frankly, without any kind of meaningful pension reform, I don't see any new tax proposal passing in the fall.
    fact--california already has the second highest top state income tax rate in the usa.
    fact--california already has the highest state sales tax rate in the usa
    fact--california has unfunded benefit/pension unfunded liabilties between $300-500 billion
    fact--there have been zero cuts to state staff levels, wages, benefits, pensions

    why would any rational voter be in favor of additional taxes in this state? i just don't get it. we clearly have a spending problem, and we clearly have a competitiveness issue. i am against all new tax or fee proposals until the state gets serious and starts getting spending down in line with revenues. each of us has to do this in our daily lives, we should expect no less from our elected representatives imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post
    fact--california already has the second highest top state income tax rate in the usa.
    fact--california already has the highest state sales tax rate in the usa
    fact--california has unfunded benefit/pension unfunded liabilties between $300-500 billion
    fact--there have been zero cuts to state staff levels, wages, benefits, pensions
    Nobody cares about facts. If they can somehow sell it as "socking the rich" scheme, people will vote, and nobody will notice they are duped. Sacramento is bought lock, stock and barrel by those benefiting from all the spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcerer View Post
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    SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- A former California state parks employee says she told state attorneys that her department was hiding about $20 million in a special fund several months before officials announced discovering the surplus money, according to a sworn declaration filed in court Tuesday.

    Read more here: APNewsBreak: State lawyers told of hidden funds - AP State Wire News - The Sacramento Bee

    Taylor, according to her statement, first told a representative of the state attorney general's office in January about the hidden $20 million and that the budget manager for the parks department had warned employees to keep the underreporting quiet.

    Taylor's declaration is part of a sexual harassment lawsuit naming Manuel Lopez, the state parks' former budget manager who is at the center of multiple investigations. State attorneys were tracing an unauthorized vacation buyout program organized by Lopez when they questioned Taylor about department finances.

    Her sworn declaration, filed in Sacramento County Superior Court, says she told Deputy Attorney General Corrine Lee Murphy and parks department staff attorney Jennifer Comilang in April that she "was aware of the under reporting of funds," but that Lopez had told her not to report the information. She also told the attorneys that Lopez had ordered her to demote an employee who reported the $20 million surplus in the spring of 2010.

    Taylor said in her declaration that she had a similar conversation by telephone in January with the state Department of Justice, which is run by the attorney general's office.


    Read more here: Former Parks Employee Says State Attorneys Told of Budget Stash | KQED News Fix

    Natural Resources Agency Secretary John Laird said last month that the hidden money was found in July by a new park fiscal staff member while the attorney general's office was examining the unauthorized vacation buyouts by parks employees. Taylor's court declaration says the attorney general's office knew as early as January.

    Read more: APNewsBreak: State lawyers told of hidden funds - SFGate
    What a cluster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcerer View Post
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    Taylor's declaration is part of a sexual harassment lawsuit naming Manuel Lopez, the state parks' former budget manager who is at the center of multiple investigations. State attorneys were tracing an unauthorized vacation buyout program organized by Lopez when they questioned Taylor about department finances.
    And none of it comes to light if not for a lovers quarrel with one party looking to even a score. So much for ethics and altruism among our civil servants. What a bunch of sorry, small, sad little paper pushers.

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    Don't jump to conclusions

    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    And none of it comes to light if not for a lovers quarrel with one party looking to even a score. So much for ethics and altruism among our civil servants. What a bunch of sorry, small, sad little paper pushers.

    Boo.
    "Taylor, who now works for the California Department of Transportation, is not an alleged victim of the sexual harassment alleged in the lawsuit, but other parts of her declaration address whether Lopez acted inappropriately with his employees."

    Doesn't sound like a "lovers quarrel" to me. Let's see how this plays out. Lopez sounds like a train wreck. This is getting very interesting...

    From KXTV...

    "But where former parks director Ruth Coleman said in her July resignation letter that she had been "unaware" of the surplus cash, Taylor's affidavit suggests even mid-level employees knew of the money almost two years ago. Futhermore, the affidavit mentions two dates -- January and then again on April 4 -- where Taylor was interviewed by attorneys about parks budgeting."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post
    fact--california already has the second highest top state income tax rate in the usa.
    fact--california already has the highest state sales tax rate in the usa
    fact--california has unfunded benefit/pension unfunded liabilties between $300-500 billion
    fact--there have been zero cuts to state staff levels, wages, benefits, pensions

    why would any rational voter be in favor of additional taxes in this state? i just don't get it. we clearly have a spending problem, and we clearly have a competitiveness issue. i am against all new tax or fee proposals until the state gets serious and starts getting spending down in line with revenues. each of us has to do this in our daily lives, we should expect no less from our elected representatives imo.
    Amen bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cohenfive View Post
    fact--california already has the second highest top state income tax rate in the usa.
    fact--california already has the highest state sales tax rate in the usa
    fact--california has unfunded benefit/pension unfunded liabilties between $300-500 billion
    fact--there have been zero cuts to state staff levels, wages, benefits, pensions

    why would any rational voter be in favor of additional taxes in this state? i just don't get it. we clearly have a spending problem, and we clearly have a competitiveness issue. i am against all new tax or fee proposals until the state gets serious and starts getting spending down in line with revenues. each of us has to do this in our daily lives, we should expect no less from our elected representatives imo.
    Prop 13 was the last tax payer revolt. Looks like we need another one.

    Why vote to raise taxes when tax collection is nearly as high as in 2007?
    o You are a government employee
    o You think your children will have crappy schools if you don't vote yes.
    o You are a young adult and don't think taxes will impact you, but will stick it to the rich.
    o You don't have a taxable income.
    o You fall for the "Pass this measure or you'll be killing this puppy" threats.
    (Well, usually they talk about laying off firemen, police, and teachers. Same threat.)

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    What prop 30 will cost YOU as an mtb rider....................

    Your new $3500 bike will cost you an extra $88 for that .25% sale tax increase.

    Yet, there's 20 million hidden. So, No more taxes.
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    why is there a forum about this? we all live in this state and we all know how f*cked up it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broomhandle View Post
    why is there a forum about this? we all live in this state and we all know how f*cked up it is.
    Well we all know about Mt bikes yet we have a forum about it.

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    More Ugly Details

    We now have testimonial evidence that the former Director knew about the hidden funds long before they were revealed to the public.

    Testimony: Chief told of parks surplus - State of the State Parks - The Sacramento Bee

    "Former state parks director Ruth Coleman knew the department was running a budget surplus of $20 million even as it was carrying out a plan to close 70 parks, according to testimony released by the state Natural Resources Agency late Friday."

    "The documents released Friday also reveal that the parks department moved to fire Lopez in early May. The termination notice targets him for "dishonesty," among other charges. Lopez, however, resigned on May 16, just days before the notice could be delivered."

    California parks officials were looking to spend while shortchanging parks, documents show - State of the State Parks - The Sacramento Bee

    "The state Department of Parks and Recreation routinely searched for ways to spend extra money each June despite facing the threat of park closures and forgoing upkeep at its 278 properties, based on newly released transcripts from an internal investigation.

    Testimony from 30 interviews with state employees portrays parks administrators who appeared to have the opposite problem from one long described by Gov. Jerry Brown excess cash left over and not enough ways to spend it.

    That was the case in June 2011, when the investigation found former parks administrator Manuel Thomas Lopez tapped some of the funds for a cash buyout of accumulated leave without authorization. The state Resources Agency made transcripts available late Friday from the completed report by Deputy Attorney General Corinne Murphy on Lopez's actions."

    "The documents depict a department that wanted to keep secret a reserve of its own special funds to hedge against future financial problems while securing and spending as much state general fund money each year as it could.

    Department of Finance spokesman H.D. Palmer said his office was unaware that parks officials had hidden funds until July. Finance and the state Department of Justice are investigating further.

    "I'm not going to get into what (our audit) is going to conclude, other than there was something very much awry in the way parks was working their budget operations," Palmer said."

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